Sunday, February 5, 2012
California has the most expensive red-light camera tickets in the world – the fine is so steep that one camera in Oakland generates more than $3 million a year – and a Fremont man is launching a protest group to do something about that.
If Roger Jones has his way, that freezing dread that knifes through a driver the moment he sees the overhead flash of a traffic camera will become a thing of the past.
But he’s facing quite an uphill fight against officials hungry for the cash the cameras sweep in and police who are convinced they make the roads safer.
Anyone in California snapped violating a red light pays a fine of $480, and according to the traffic-watch site TheNewspaper.com, no other jurisdiction anywhere has a tab that high. The second-highest fine in the United States is $250, and it is usually more like $100.
The Legislature passed two bills in the past two years that would have reduced the fine or limited the cameras’ use, but both were vetoed. When he killed the most recent measure, Gov. Jerry Brown said the matter should be left to local jurisdictions.
The state Department of Finance has estimated that red-light cameras bring in more than $80 million annually to the state and $50 million to cities and counties – and that, Jones and his supporters say, is the real reason they continue to snap away at motorists.
Not all $480 from each ticket goes to the cities or counties that authorize the cameras – more than half goes to the state or to the companies that run the devices. And not all tickets result in convictions.
But the haul is still out of proportion to the overall set of offenses, critics say. And so even though the fine for running a red light is the same whether a camera or a live police officer generates it, the cameras draw the fire because they can issue far more tickets than a single cop sitting at an intersection.
“Is there a limit to how much ‘gotcha government’ we have to put up with?” asked Jones, 62, a retired distribution manager who began crusading against red-light cameras after he got a ticket from one in 2009. “Just because you can do it doesn’t mean you should.”
His newly formed organization, the Red Light Camera Protest Group, picketed at Mowry Avenue and Fremont Boulevard in Fremont on Saturday, waving signs to approving honks from several motorists. It was their first protest, and the two dozen who participated plan more in the coming months – all calling for the elimination of red-light cameras and a reduction in the fine.
“I think we’d all be better off without them,” Jones said. “There are better ways to address the problem.”
His foremost suggestion is to increase yellow-light durations, giving people more time to stop safely – and to avoid tickets.
After he pushed the city of Fremont in 2010 to tack 0.7 of a second onto the yellow light at Mission Boulevard and Mojave Drive, pushing it to five seconds, the city noted a 62 percent drop in red-light camera tickets there.
Jones and other camera foes also insist that rolling a red light on a right turn, also known as making a “Hollywood stop,” is not as dangerous as other violations – even though the vast majority of tickets given by most red-light cameras are for that violation.
One recent study in South San Francisco, cited in the Legislature during a 2010 debate over the issue, found that 98 percent of its tickets at one red-light camera were for rolling right turns.
Few oppose the usefulness of any device, including cameras, for reducing the number of people who blow straight through red lights. But that’s not the main issue, camera foes say.
A study last year by Safer Streets L.A., a community group opposed to traffic cameras, found that of the 56,000 annual accidents in Los Angeles, fewer than 100 are caused by rolling right turns.
Law enforcement officers have a sharply different view of the topic.
City of Newark studies found that collisions at the intersections overseen by its five cameras since 2006 dropped by half – from 46 in the four years before the installations to 23 in the four years afterward.
And in Fremont, where Jones lives, police studies concluded that the city’s 10 cameras contributed significantly to a 40 percent drop in intersection accidents between 1995 and 2009. The cameras were installed in 2000.
“This is not a big moneymaker for us,” said Fremont police Sgt. Mark Riggs, who helps oversee the red-light camera program. The annual take for the city is about $250,000, after all the other parties get their cut, he said.
“It’s about safety,” Riggs said. “The big thing for us is aiming for a reduction in accidents.
“As far as the price is concerned,” he added, “we have nothing to do with that. We are simply about safety.”
As for “Hollywood stops” – he insisted they are vehicular dynamite.
“The right turn on a red is a very dangerous move, especially when the driver is looking to the left and the pedestrian is on the right,” Riggs said. “We investigate a lot of accidents like that, and they are bad.”
Lots of bucks
Despite the safety question, the price of the ticket, and the money it drags in, sticks most in the craw of those who hate red-light cameras.
Opponents consider it a form of regressive tax. The $480 tab consists of a base fine of $100, with extra fees tacked on by the Legislature to help pay for maintaining courthouses, jails, courts and emergency services.
Unlike most taxes and fees, it takes only a majority vote of the Legislature to add such charges. Assemblyman Jerry Hill, D-San Mateo, authored a bill that would have cut the ticket in half for rolling a red light, but then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it, saying reducing the fine would send the wrong message to drivers about traffic safety.
State Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, took a cut at the issue last year, writing a bill to prohibit use of the camera tickets merely to raise revenue, and to make it easier to fight them in court. That’s the bill Brown vetoed in October.
“There are accuracy issues, privacy issues and due process issues with these tickets,” Simitian said. “The trouble is that more and more cities depend on this for revenue.”
He stops short of saying red-light cameras should be eliminated, saying they do have a safety value. “I just don’t think the current system gives the public a fair shake,” he said.
Brown’s press secretary, Gil Duran, said the veto was not about money.
“Running a red light can cost lives,” he said in an e-mail. “The fine is cheap by comparison.”
The sums hauled in by some of the red-light cameras in the 14 Bay Area cities that use them are anything but paltry.
The highest, apparently, is in Oakland at the on-ramp to Interstate 980 at 27th Street and Northgate Avenue.
In 2010, the most recent year for which city figures were available, 9,273 tickets were issued there through violation pictures – worth a gross of $4.2 million, based on the 2010 red-light ticket fine of $450. Figures available for much of 2011 put the gross worth at more than $3 million.
Ken Germann, a 65-year-old teacher who lives in Oakland, knew he was in trouble, and probably out a few bucks, the second he saw the dreaded red-light camera light flash at that intersection one day in December. But then he pulled over, watched two other cars get flashed right after him – and he got mad.
He got even madder when he found out how much the ticket fine is.
“I stopped full, and so did the others, and the camera snapped me anyway,” he said last week as he stood in line at the Alameda County courthouse to book a trial date, traffic ticket in hand. “These things must just be there to make money.”
Ticketing the family
Halfway down the block on 27th from the light, Phuong Nguyen works at MP Flowers and sees the camera light flicker all day. She shook her fist in its direction.
“Three members of my family got tickets at that light in the past month while driving to work,” she said. “Lot of money for the government, not such a good idea for the rest of us.”
Jessica Lubnieski, 27, lives a few blocks north of the light, though, and says she is grateful for it.
“I walk my dog this route all the time, and people go flying through that light when they turn,” she said as she strolled by the intersection with Cooper, her mutt. “They so often don’t even see us.
“I just have to think that camera makes people more careful.”
$480 Current fine for violating a red light in California.
$80 million Paid annually to state.
$50 million Fines paid annually to cities and counties.
$4.2 million Amount generated in 2010 by one camera near the on-ramp to Interstate 980 at 27th Street and Northgate Avenue in Oakland.
Kevin Fagan is a Chronicle staff writer. firstname.lastname@example.org.
This article appeared on page A – 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle
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I don’t agree with the big brother mentality of the government anyways! IMHO, those cameras are unfair, especially if you get nabbed due to a faulty setup. So if you simply can’t afford that expensive ticket, you can always try this. It makes your license plate Invisible to red light and speed cameras. As an added
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This dood was having diabetic issues. Cops helped him out a bit.
“Is anybody hurt? Is anybody hurt?”
Yes you fucking moron isn’t it obvious?
Underneath the buzz cuts, body armor and obvious results of a diet high in donuts you can clearly see the awkward teenager who vowed to get back at the high school football team.
One of the requirements of this job should be getting in a ring a couple times a year with no backup or weapons and getting your just desserts.
The revenues generated from these cameras are absolutely sickening! I can’t stop thinking about it.. Just imagine how fucking rich we’d be if we were the companies in cahoots with the government on these deals. It’s amazing how the government pays so well the better you fuck over the population. Then I go on to be astonished at the clovers who are loving it asking for more! WTF
In Baltimore County, MD the private contractor supplying the cameras is taking over 80 cents of every dollar in fines and sometimes over 90.
What a racket! It wouldn’t surprise me to see some reverse vigilante justice inflicted upon these annoying contraptions.
“It wouldn’t surprise me to see some reverse vigilante justice inflicted upon these annoying contraptions.”
Me either. It will be richly deserved.
It leads me to wonder if some type of laser source (like the scanning laser in a bar code reader set up in front of the rearview and aimed up at the traffic light would “jam” the camera. If all they get is flash and trash it will be awfully hard to mail a citation. Not nearly as satisfying as leaving the infernal device in a pool of molten plastic I realize, but probably doable.
Boothe many of those cameras are exceedingly sensitive to near-visible infrared light; in fact many of them use infrared diodes in a ring around the lens to illuminate the scene invisibly at night. I’m speaking of surveillance cameras, but I bet the red-light variety are a similar design.
I’ve seen baseball caps ringed with infrared LED’s that create a nifty blinding halo effect on surveillance cameras. I wonder if the same would work on the traffic cameras? A ring of IR LED’s around one’s license plate?
Would be a nice complement to my Laser Interceptor jammer…what a wonderful tool that is!
There you go talking about that laser interceptor jammer! Dammit, now I need to go look up the price of them again because it sounds too cool. I know when I mess around with the surveillance/network/clovercam cameras I have if I shine a laser pointer into them the image is all messed up. I’ve come up with a cheap/simple sort of solution for the red light cameras. I’ll email ya’ll what it is. Not sure it works 100%, but I am sure it helps.
I’ve got some videos for sensitive red light cameras. One from this week. hopefully it came out. I’ll try to get up on clover cam.
Gail, I hate to tell you this m’lady, but when it comes to paintball the FBI are even watching people that do that:
Dom, that includes you “evil” Martial Artists as well. Of course even the Amish are subversives, what with selling raw milk and all…..
Idiot drivers and the idiot, malevolent state. What a toxic combination.
The article cites statistics that show a reduction in head-on collisions after the lights were installed. I wonder how many rear-end collisions happened after?
Always remember the 2 sec rule!
Here’s an idea, surveillance cameras to watch our overlords in government. Cameras in the various bureaucrats’ offices to keep tabs on what they’re doing to deserve their exorbitant salaries. Cameras in the classrooms to keep an eye on the garbage being shoveled into kids’ heads every day.
And accountability for them when they don’t measure up.
Yes. Notice that they don’t like being filmed and recorded even as they assert their unlimited authority to film and record us!
Cops especially seem to really resent it. But officer, it’s for my safety… and if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?
Sauce for the goose, eh?