The “market” for battery powered devices is flat-lining – in the United States – not because they aren’t selling but rather on account of inconsistent support, says a Bank of America analyst by the name of John Murphy.
He means, of course, government force, inconsistently applied.
For some reason, those who favor forcing people to do things – such as buying things – avoid using honest language to articulate what they favor. The speak of asking when they really mean ordering – and you’d better obey their orders. They use such language for the obvious reason and also because it weakens people’s resolve to resist. Why, we’re just asking after all! What sort of person refuses an ask?
See how that works?
That’s why the BOA analyst speaks of inconsistent support when what he really means is the government hasn’t been forceful enough in pushing people into EVs. It merely pushed them into mass production via “emissions” and “mileage” regulations that egg-on the manufacturing of EVs for compliance’ sake rather than because there is market demand for the things. He thinks the government should push battery powered devices on people who do not want them even more aggressively – as by winnowing down alternatives to them – and that it should also force people to pay (via taxes) for the “infrastructure” – EV charging networks – that would supposedly induce more people to buy devices.
He does not openly say these things. But they are implicit in what he says.
It is a measure of just how far down the road toward what could be described as insouciant socialism we’ve traveled. It is taken as a given that the government ought to “support” various things. Things the market does not want, especially.
The BOA analyst doesn’t even seem to be aware that there is – well, was – a thing called the market that (once upon a time) allocated the supply of goods according to the organic demand for them. As distinct from government demands. He, like many does not seem to understand that a product – whatever it is – doesn’t require “support” (coercion) if there is a market for it. It is only products for which there is no market – or not enough of one – that require “support.”
Which also means government protection from the market.
The analyst affirms the point – unconsciously. He says that the current EV “market” share – which is about 8 percent, most of that in California, where government “support” is greatest – is “an extremely weak number when contrasted with global EV penetration being over 20 percent last year.”
Penetration being just the right word.
In the Ned Beatty in Deliverance) sense of that word. The government penetrated the market deeper and harder in Europe and China, where there is much more consistent “support” for battery powered devices. That “support” takes many forms, including outright prohibitions on the use of vehicles that are not devices in “EV Only” zones, rendering vehicles that are not devices effectively useless to those who own them or who would otherwise prefer to buy them. Further “support” comes in the form of obnoxious – confiscatory – taxes on gasoline and diesel, combined with subsidized electricity, to make driving a vehicle with an engine increasingly unaffordable while making battery powered devices seem more affordable.
Of course, they aren’t – because it’s all artificial.
Gasoline and diesel do not really cost $8 (or more) per gallon in Europe; they only cost that much because of government “support.” Battery powered devices, on the other hand, cost many thousands more than advertised – both there and here – because they are typically sold at a loss because their manufacturers cannot sell them at a price that would cover what it actually costs to manufacture them, plus a profit sufficient to justify manufacturing them. Ironically, part of the cost – the losses incurred by of these devices – is offloaded onto the price of vehicles that are not devices, which have gone up considerably over the past five years. The irony here being that once vehicles have been pushed off the market, there will no longer be a way to hide the true cost of devices. They will have to be sold at even higher losses or marked up to reflect what they actually cost to manufacture – at which point even fewer people will be able to buy a device, regardless of their desire to own one.
There is also cost-no-object “support” for EV infrastructure – government-subsidized, government-contracted public charging kiosks – in Europe and China, which the BOA analyst seems to implicitly bemoan is less “consistent” in the United States. Meaning there ought to be more of them and – implicitly – fewer gas stations.
It does not seem to occur to him – cue the insouciant socialism – that if there were a market for battery powered devices then infrastructure to support it would appear organically, without any government “support.” He seems blind – or conditioned to not see – the fact that no “support” for the vast network of gas stations that exists in the United States was necessary. because it was very clear that people wanted to buy vehicles with engines and those people needed a place to get gas. That created an incentive – a non-coercive one – for investment in gas stations.
There was demand, in other words. As opposed to government demands. It is why gas stations are almost always busy – while government supported EV charging totem poles commonly aren’t. If you build it, they won’t come – because it works the other way around when it comes to stuff people don’t want.
The good news is that because there hasn’t been consistent “support” for EVs in this country, the EV “market” is wilting. The market – though badly beaten up – isn’t defeated just yet. If it gets a breather, it might just be able to win whats so far been an unfair fight.
Time will soon tell.
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Inconsistent support alright. I have a 2012 Tacoma and a 2012 Win 7 laptop. Guess which one just went offline?
The laptop of course. I could have “upgraded” to Win 10 for free back in the day before the clot shots. It felt like a digital clot shots because it was “free” from the very, at the time, one of the world’s richest assholes.
Well, the micro-penis buttheads didn’t take me down, it was the browser buttheads. All of a sudden, there were no browsers that could get on the “information superhighway” as it was billed back in the day.
The laptop. It still works fine. I can still do my spreadsheets and other programs but no internet for me.
Planned obsolescence and subscriptions. You will own nothing.
Hi J,
Yup – same happened to me recently with my desktop. It would not load or took forever to load, which made getting any work done tedious and time-consuming. So I got nudged into buying a new desktop. Meanwhile, my almost 25-year-old truck still runs great…
You can still find Win10 DVDs if you want to upgrade, the computer probably will run it fine.
I get that there’s nothing wrong with Win7 but in the reality of bugs, malware, exploits not updating OS and applications does put you at some risk on the web. As a developer who deals with secure and encrypted (I do backend) transactions I’m perhaps the wrong person to say anything (obvious bias) but the threats do exist and from the end of the server/provider/storefront if we don’t implement fixes we expose ourselves to them. Our datacenters are under constant attack probing for weaknesses.
So we don’t have a lot of choice but to keep churning and that means we’re at the mercy of the OS and browsers. I don’t run Windows personally and you could run Linux as I do, but that doesn’t solve the fundamental problem. It just lets you get out from under Microsoft’s thumb but you still are reliant on Mozilla (or whoever, Google, etc) who is reliant on bugs found in all the various libraries.
I’m sorry this is the case, but it’s out of our hands, it’s the hackers (both white and black hats). It’s the social equivalent to gain of function researchers. The “they” of it keep trying to find vulnerabilities and the more you pick the more you find. But honestly, they’ve always been there even from day 1 of the internet, day 1 of writing software. They’re just more sophisticated and prevalent now. I wish it weren’t the case just like I wish doctors wouldn’t push CDC and NIH bullshit.
But in this case you do have a choice, you can do business in person for the time being. The writing is on the wall pushing CBDC and digital transactions. All I can do is bring awareness, TPTB are pushing all this. But it’s a little different than EVs in that the market does appear to want it. Maybe it’s predictive programming but knowing what I do I warn everyone to use cash as much as possible, write checks and go inside to the bank and stores. But even my own family refuses to listen and still go to the ATM and whip out their credit and debt cards for even small purchases.
It’s inconvenient but what is your privacy and self sovereignty worth?
I know it’s a catch 22, but there are so many browsers out there, that you should be able to find something that works for you. I use Brave, but I know there are others and oddly enough for a programmer who makes his living on computers I avoid OS changes for as long as it is possible (I have to use windows because my software packages require it, but even Rockwell Automation struggles to keep up with the MS BS.
You can find win 10 installs on EBay and elsewhere and it does work. Or find a Linux distortion you can boot from and download a Win7 compatible browser from a Linux one. Whatever you do will involve some pain and suffering at this point. Good luck!
Rockwell threw their lot in with Microsoft decades ago and around the time of Windows 10 I think they obviously screwed the pooch. It’s a tailspin because everything is tightly integrated at the hardware level and within the network stack that you have to be a network engineer to get it to work and you constantly are fighting permissions to do anything. Both on the control side and getting your tools to work. Stupid IT then goes and turns off your admin privileges on your laptop and you’re dead in the water half way through commissioning in the field.
Talk about inconsistent support … please read this urgent message from Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth:
Hegseth here. Just a few days ago I was chillin’ in the Pentagram renamin’ battleships, eatin’ Taco Bell, and listenin’ to the Rollins band. The music got me all worked up and ready to roll. I decided to go in with the special forces boys in tactical team 7 Delta Charlie Julio into the deserts of Iran.
We landed on Budweiser Beach and made it to Hand Job Hill when the operation went sideways. I am now in a Persian prison. Bibi will not pay my bail. I have gone full on Lily Phillips three times over. I have done innumerable Tijuana donkeyshows. My asshole has been full spectrum dominated. I have been full on p-diddied. I repeat full on P-DIDDIED.
Earlier today I sucked a man’s dick for a raw potato. Please stop reading Andrew Anglin’s federally funded Kanye West articles and get me out of this Persian prison. I never thought this is where the Trump train would lead me. Toby Keith where are you?
Does anyone hear the anguished cry of this suffering patriot? I ask you …
Brosi June 15, 2025 At 5:48 am –
“If we are willing to accept that there is some “hidden hand” guiding the US, and the entire west, into all simultaneously following the same suicidal and self-destructive processes, then one must also ask: why?”
TV, Radio, ‘News’, Books, Magazines, Internet, etc., ALL CONTROLLED BY SO-CALLED ‘jews’.
ALL OF IT is a deliberate attack on something quite extraordinary that very few are aware of at any level– what is commonly called your SUBCONSCIOUS MIND.
You already have the most powerful tool to fight evil with at your command– if one can only realize what they are doing to you with it, massively, and HOW IT WORKS.
You can ignore this little book if you want, but it literally holds the secret to true power.
Evil and demonic creatures have been using this ‘secret’ against you for a long time, especially since their ‘Frankfurt School’ bullshit and ‘psychology’ became a thing. It’s also how their ‘religions’ work on some people. I’ve spent over 50 years training in the martial arts and following my own Path. I’ve also remarked at how much one can learn from white-belts coming in fresh off the street. See if you can figure it out.
http://billsropesupply.com/power-subconscious-mind.pdf
1. Your subconscious mind is a Garden. You are the Gardener. You are planting seeds all day long.
2. When you understand the Truth the thoughts planted are peaceful, harmonious, and beneficial.
3. When confused by Lies, light becomes dark, joy becomes sadness. Control your thoughts.
4. Your conscious mind is the Watchman at the Gate to protect your subconscious mind.
5. Your subconscious mind simply reacts to the impressions given it by your conscious mind.
6. The power of Positive Suggestion is magnificent. Negative suggestion is harmful and destructive.
7. Suggestion may be used to discipline and control your mind–or by others to harm and destroy you…
“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.” –Friedrich W. Nietzsche
This is fine stuff, Sensei Bill – thank you!
I plan to read the PDF this evening.
Israel planned to assassinate Iran’s supreme leader Khamenei, but Trump said no:
https://nypost.com/2025/06/15/world-news/israel-planned-to-assassinate-irans-supreme-leader-khamenei-but-trump-say-no-report/
Today’s WW III-tease mindf*ck:
‘Sources familiar with the matter have told Antiwar.com Editorial Director Scott Horton that the Trump administration is poised to enter Israel’s aggressive war against Iran directly. US airstrikes on Iran could begin as soon as Monday.
‘Please contact the White House by calling (202) 456-7041 or sending an email. Tell them that you do not want the US to enter this disastrous war, which could lead to heavy American casualties at US bases across the Middle East.’
https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/15/sources-us-will-enter-israels-war-with-iran/
C-in-C Donald ‘TACO’ Trump, as usual, is prevaricating.
Wise advice from internet commentator Ahenobarbus:
‘Good info, but come on? Call the White House? Why not call the zoo and explain the situation to a Chimpanzee? Just ridiculous. Only a slave in thrall of the Dems would do something like this.’
We are all slaves, but not necessarily to the Dems. The dogs bark, but the War Party caravan rolls on.
One point never brought up by Eric or anyone else, EV prejudice at the local city level. In my small town of Libtards, they have placed EV charging stations in prime parking areas downtown. This is criminal IMO, because we never voted for it and we are being forced to pay for EV infrastructure.
When gasoline infrastructure was built, like gas stations and auto repair businesses, it was with private money based on market demand. EV is being forced on us, and those with EVs are being given privilege, and that is illegal. You are making royalty out of EV owners – and to make it worse (it is always worse than you think) – it is based on a false pretense of climate change – which is a political ruse.
Oil has consistent support. Everywhere you go, there’s oil. A blessing in disguise.
If the amount of supply decreases, prices increase. If the amount of crude oil declines, daily production, crude oil refining will decrease. Not what’s happening.
Texas has 180,000 plus oil wells, with the natural gas wells, the total is north of one million.
14 bpd average per well, the math adds up. You know it is 1.8 million barrels plus another 520 thousand barrels, 2.3 million barrels each day just in Texas.
Exxon-Mobil and Chevron are swimming in gopher gravy, Jed Clampett is happy as a clam.
Been going on for 124 years since Spindletop. 1859 to 2025 is 166 years of oil exploration.
Might as well haul it to a refinery, you get gasoline and diesel fuel, the demand is off the charts.
You make money that way, people pay for fuels, people buy ICE vehicles for a reason.
Oil Monster dot Com has oil statistics for each state.
100 million barrels per day consumption is plenty of proof, the demand never dies.
You can go places. Load up the car and you are on your way, plenty of gas no matter where you go.
High demand for Depends in Tel Aviv.
4 x 180,000 = 720,000 barrels, not 520,000.
Make that 2.5 million barrels per day in Texas.
Of course if we had a free market, there would be no such thing as the “Bank of America”. So it’s no surprise a BOA “analyst” is for more government control.
One of the worst aspects of government being in control of the economy is the growth of these enormous, useless huge “banks”. A free economy would never have a bank of that size.
That actually applies to pretty much any mega-corporation.
They thrive in an environment where government rules and regulations make it impossible for a start-up to compete, because it can’t afford the army of lawyers and accountants the big boys have. Small business also does not have the money to buy enough politicians.
Government and mega-corp are natural bed partners. This is also why what we are now experiencing in the former ‘West’ is more akin to fascism than communism – even though that’s just semantics; the impact on Joe and Mary Sixpack is the same.
Currently it is still at the ‘lite’ stage, but like any cancer, it is only going to grow.
How long before someone says something similar regarding COVID jabs and other mRNA “vaccines” that the criminals at Big Pharma and globalist organizations such as the WHO wish to concoct?
Electrons good, molecules bad.
I am continuously bemused by the labeling of fruits and vegetables in the supermarket as ‘organic.” Does that imply those not so labeled are “inorganic?” Anyone who has studied chemistry will be aware that the chemistry of carbon compounds is referred to as organic chemistry, and the chemistry of all other elements is called inorganic chemistry. Carbon is so important it get its own branch of chemistry, which no other element does, per se.
Just imagine…fruits and vegetables which are advertised as “pure inorganic, contains no carbon.” If such things could be made to exist (not possible), eating them would certainly reduce your “carbon footprint.” To zero, and right promptly.
Herbert! Herbert! Stop confusing the issue with your “facts!”
From Memory Alpha…
They learn the legends about the planet are true – Eden is a fabulously beautiful planet. However, they learn the beauty hides deadly secrets: the grass and plant life are full of a powerful acid, and the fruit is poisonous to Humans. Eventually, the shuttlecraft is found, with Sevrin and his followers nursing severe burns on their bare feet from the acid in the grass and Adam dead from eating the fruit.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Way_to_Eden_(episode)
Organic chemistry matters.
LOL. Thanks for the laugh. 🙂
‘the losses incurred by these devices [are] offloaded onto the price of vehicles that are not devices’ — eric
EeeVees are one example of the Soviet phenomenon called a value subtraction economy — in which (lacking a market to set rational prices) some goods sell for less than the value of their (equally mispriced) inputs. Thus the Soviet-era slogan, ‘They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.’
The Orange Emperor’s trillion-dollah military budget is a different form of non-market value subtraction, in which defense [sic] goods sell at absurd markups to a monopsonistic buyer, whose non-market priorities include (not necessarily in this order) spreading the ‘work’ to all 435 congressional districts and ruling the world with its 800-plus bases.
So much
winningvalue subtraction! Its guaranteed result is stagnant living standards. Yesterday I joined a group of volunteers to clean up junked RVs in the forest (our Soviet forest service has no money and no staff). But other marooned RVs are still out there with people living in them. This is our muscle-bound, planet-ruling value subtraction regime, which like the former Soviet Union, is turning into a blighted, impoverished shambles at home.Soon the tab will come due in Clowngress for little Shitrahell’s adventures in aggression, and money which should be spent on Americans will be filched by our little west Asian apartheid colony, courtesy of our dual-loyalty comprador rulers. They can kiss my ass, each and every one of them.
Yesterday I joined a group of volunteers to clean up junked RVs in the forest (our Soviet forest service has no money and no staff)…
There’s always a fair bit of firemen first principle, especially when there’s boots on the ground required. In order to properly police the forest there’s a number of people required. That number would be easily determined in a free market, as people would make the choice of working for the pay offered or not. If The Forest Service, Inc wasn’t able to get the staff required to prevent squatting, they’d have to reduce their holdings to a point that was manageable. Not only that but a responsible board would take one look at the layoff list and ask why the workers (ostensibly the productive) were being cut before the unproductive management.
And then there’s the larger issue of squatting on “public land.” If it belongs to the collective then how can anyone possibly squat? If I choose to park my RV on public land I’m just making use of my share of the land.
“🎵This land is your land, this land is my land🎶” – Woody Guthrie
“No it isn’t. GTFO!” – Harold Ickes
The BofA analyst fails to mention many things such as that there is insufficient infrastructure to supply and charge an all EV future, due to the higher weight of EV’s multi level parking garages may not be able to handle the load.
As we’ve seen around the world EVs spontaneously combust such that a parking garage full of them would be a bad thing. It would probably be very bad if an underground parking garage full of EVs spontaneously combusted……
No man or woman invented the free market. God did. There is no flaw in it. No matter how much those like this BOA analyst would like there to be. It always works if it is allowed to.
Contrast the “invisible hand” of the free market with the very visible “middle finger” of government coercion. And note that it is the invisible hand, not the invisible fist.
There are, of course, other instances of the middle finger of government coercion. The first which comes to my mind is the criminalization of speech which the government does not like, Such speech is known as “hate speech,” which is of course a manifestation of wrongthink, and has been attempted to be outlawed (by the usual suspects).
Sorry, folks, I reserve the right to criticize anything and anyone I choose, and whom I deem worthy of criticism.
Observe what is going on with students on college campuses who dare to speak out against the psychopaths presently genociding men, women, children, toddlers and infants in Gaza and the /west Bank as well as its “war” against a sovereign nation (Iran). Ostensibly, college campuses, used to be bastions of free speech, but no more. Threatening to deport those who have the audacity to speak out against the JEW$ is proof of who owns the USA. On the domestic front, Orange man is doing a somewhat credible job, but when it comes to foreign policy, treating Gaza and the West Bank as real estate transactions, even threatening to displace the current residents, along with grifter son-in-law Jared Kushner is just wrong and stinks to high heaven.
It would be interesting to find out what the JEW$ have on Orange man and the congresscritters in the U S government.
>Observe what is going on with students on college campuses
Yes.
One of the more egregious of these in recent memory is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTwsXyWwoho
She was prohibited by the Institute from attending subsequent graduation events, because the administration did not like what she said.
As it happens, MIT is my undergraduate alma mater, and I graduated in June 1970, the year of the Kent State massacre. Censoring student, or faculty, speech would have been unthinkable in those days.
How times have changed.
Received truth is the enemy of civilization.
Galileo was forced to officially deny reality, but nonetheless retained knowledge of the facts which he had discovered.
In the long run, the facts will inevitably come out. Those of us who earn our living in science, engineering, technology, or a skilled trade (anything based on physical reality) know this very well. The tape (or the voltmeter, etc.) does not lie.
Another example is the French system of measurement know as SI units.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units#:~:text=The%20SI%20comprises%20a%20coherent,candela%20(cd%2C%20luminous%20intensity)
In its defense, the SI system’s great strength is the unification of all quantities, such that conversion factors are, by definition, one.
Thus, one cubic centimeter of water is equal to one milliliter, and weighs one gram.
Etc.
All to the good, but check out the fundamental definitions, which are entirely arbitrary. I predict hat, at some time in the future (not in my lifetime) we will have a more “rationalized” system, let’s call it SI 2.0, in which the fundamental units involve simpler, and more rational, choices.
It is possible that such a system might not be decimocentric. In my opinion, 12 is a much better choice for the basis of a number system, simply because 12 has more divisors than 10.
There is a reason our clock faces have 12 digits, and that we sell eggs, and cookies, in packages of 12, not 10. Also that surveyors divide a circle into 360 degrees.
But, perhaps that will have to wait until we have all grown a sixth finger on each hand. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJuh1PM56CY
The fact that the earth rotates on its axis once every 24 hours at 1000 mph kind of explains the numbers.
24 time zones, 15 degrees between each one.
Then the sun makes that happen. Sundials keep time to the second.
The moon provides some celestial gravitational equilibrium.
Call it the throw of Thor’s hammer.
The earth could achieve escape velocity from the sun’s gravity and end up in the Oort cloud. The moon probably prevents such a catastrophe.
It’s all in the real world, not that big a deal.
Be here now.
If it was the invisible fist, Pete Buttplug would be Murray Rothbard on steroids.
The BofA analyst reflects the plantation mentality of those who built what is now BofA. Hugh McColl ran North Carolina National Bank which gobbled up numerous small banks in the South with leveraged buy-outs. He had the passive-aggressive air of The Captain in Cool Hand Luke combined with the simmering violence of a Mafia don. With a hand grenade on his desk he made Charlotte, NC a company town based on financial wizardry and the protection of The Fed. His local veneration as a “Wise Man” (one of five) is sickening.
When The Dollar no longer commands respect it will all collapse under the weight of its own contradictions (h/t Rand)
If we are willing to accept that there is some “hidden hand” guiding the US, and the entire west, into all simultaneously following the same suicidal and self-destructive processes, then one must also ask: why?
If we think of the goyim as one giant herd of cattle, and the Rabbi’s as our trail bosses, then it becomes clear that we are being driven along the Tikkun Olan trail to Noahide nirvana and the novus ordo seclorum.
This is what ties EV’s to Wokeism to Warmism to Zionism to Bolschevism to Feminism to population replacement to CV19 mRNA injections.
The Rabbi trail bosses are constantly driving us goyim somewhere down the trail, and if they don’t keep us moving along some of us might wander off to some greener Libertarian pastures.