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Should we even have to bother with them? Why?

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51 COMMENTS

  1. After being back in the USA for 6 months now and taking 2 road trips across the country I can say definitely that the purpose of a drivers license has pretty much nothing to do with driver competency.
    No less and a third of the people driving automobiles here have absolutely no business behind the wheel of a car under any circumstances. At least another third desperately need remedial instruction. Most especially lane discipline, merging and turing into multiple lane roads.
    All the driver “assist” crap is not going to make it better.

    • A lot of this is due to vaccine damage. There seems to be a deliberate conflation between vaccidents and accidents caused by idiot people. Millions of people have had microclots in their brains caused by lipid nanoparticles.

      Ultimately, after forcing all the diversity on us, the Noahide empire will decide that transportation is a human right that transcends intelligence and therefore everyone will have to migrate to self-driving cars or else “discrimination”. This is the LCD (Lowest Common Denominator) principle driven to its logical end. The unvaxxed will have their quality of life reduced to the same level as the vax-tards and diversity, or even lower.

      • Good morning, Brosi!

        Well, that was a bleak – but accurate – summary. I think you’re right. Ergo, we must enjoy what we can while we can. I might take the Trans-Am out today, to hear the secondaries make that sound

      • Hello, Alex & Brosi, I see that in these parts, as well. And it seems to have grown worse over the years. As you said, the simple merging is nearly impossible with drivers up here, turning the on-coming ramp as a Sunday Stroll Lane. Hell, I would be happy if said drivers just stopped at a stop sign or red light, instead of puling right out in front of me. I guess I need to lower my expectations. But yes, after the jab, I have to wonder how many of said drivers have had one, and then, how many. A friend of mine has taken 2, lost another after her 3rd (3 months after her 3rd jab), and the one friend has definitely changed over the last few years, and they do not see it. Now imagine said drivers on the road still thinking they have the sharp tack mentally, when in reality, they are increasingly becoming a danger to others.

        • I just finished a road trip from Minnesota to Florida. I had 2 4 3 hours delays due to “accidents” both happened at merge points on road sections closed for work. Of course one was in Illinois so basically o road work was being accomplished. 21 miles of orange cones, no worker, just one big backhoe that had been sitting there so long it was half sinking into the ground.

          Driving across the US used to be pleasant, a treat really. But now it is a nightmare half the time. I have never seen so many LLB’s – Left Land Bandits ever. Long line of cars piled into the left lane behind one retard up from with none able to get around because the right lane is packed in with trucks.
          People have gone brain dead, and this was happening well before the Clot-Shot. ( but I’m willing to say that it seems to be getting much worse)

          • I used to enjoy road trips as well, Alex, but not so much these days. Left Lane Luggers with no situational awareness (or do not care), Summer road construction, and too many tourists driving RV’s driving too slow (and refusing to pull over) with miles of cars behind them just make such a trip not worth getting out of bed for.

            • I will say that one leg of the trip between St Louis and Rochester MN on US-63(62?) Was awesome. Wide smooth 2 lane with very little traffic through gorgeous rolling hills and farmland. I saw lots of Amish carts along the way, several deer and other wildlife, one or two occasional trucks. It was like road trips of old. Too bad it was only 1/3 of the trip.

              But yeah these left lane conga lines are ridiculous and the cops ignore them.

    • Hi Alex,

      I think – driver “assistance” tech – is going to make it worse. Induce passivity and what you get? Reward irresponsibility – and you get more of it. As less and less is expected from drivers, they will inevitably grow more passive and less responsible, not because they want to be but because why bother? Isn’t the car supposed to “keep me safe”?

      • I can further see where that is going, Eric. TPTB will blame the driver (who eventually has no control over his own vehicle) for his own car’s bad driving assistance, and drive him out of it completely. No pun intended. You just cannot make some of this crap up if you tried.

      • Years ago, one of the Car & Driver guys ( before they became Golf Cart Monthly) posited that the safest car would be the one where ther driver is positioned way up front with nothing around him as protection.
        I watched my own granddaughter back out a parking space without even peeking behind. Glued to the screen instead.

      • I hate to say this but the self driving cars might be an improvement for many of the idiots who cannot drive yet still insist on being behind the wheel. Put them in their own lane and let the rest of us who can drive, drive.

  2. I thought a drivers liscense was issues so illegals can vote… and if your’re from VA and under say 26 then you get an ID, unless you feed the grift to get a “drivers” liscense. Over say 26 or from another state (or had another state DL for 2 weeks, then move back) and over 18 and they take you at face value when you say you can drive.

    To get a drivers liscense you have what 3 attempts to pass a 40 question multiple choice test, where you can miss 4 questions.

    If they cared about competency, they would reveal the questions you got wrong, and the correct answer, at the end of the test, that affirms your ability before they issue a “drivers” liscense.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Grandpa Trump will probablly say “a lot of people have wanted this [REAL I.D.] for a long time. This is an win.”

    If it stops illegals voting, it will be a good move, but give it about 10 years and we will have wished we had listened to the luddites who were against REAL ID from the start.

    Heaven forbid it does nothing about the illegals voting at all.

    Kick them all out. I was at a social security office today, for three hours, and there were 3 illegals inquiring about getting a social security number. That’s one per hour per social security office.

    If you do cause a crash, your insurance does go up. Just not enough to really cover not raising everyones rates in the process. Gotta protect the mafia’s margins first.

    • If you cause a crash, or if you were hit, neither’s rates should go up! Both parties were already paying protection money. The at-fault person should then have to pay the victim out of pocket, and both parties continue paying protection money to the mafia. Hell what about we just don’t call the cops, I’ll pay you, and neither of us pay the mafia more? Please sir…

      Mafia: You think you can just hit somebody on our turf… and send some guys round to the victim’s house, he obviously needs more protection, shake it out of him too…

    • Morning, Steve!

      I do not see the need for a federal “REAL” ID to prevent people who have no right to vote from voting. Driver’s licenses are sufficient. They can be faked, sure. But it’s not easy and it’s hard to do on a mass scale. Checking peoples’ DLs at the polling place and making sure the person has a legitimate address within the voting district and checking paper would deal with 99 percent of the fraud without a federal internal passport.

      • Bullshit man! Illegal aliens can get drivers liscenses (photo ID) in Virginia. They can even tick the box that asks if you want to register to vote (it asks on the card-swipe checkout pad, after the photo is taken at the DMV). It’s illegal to check the box, but over six thousand did in this last general election. The Trump campaign brought this to the attention of govenor Glenn Youngkin, and when he tried to have them removed from the voter rolls, an injunction was filed, but thankfully overturned at the last second.

        There were threats of “cyber-attack” so that poll attendants couldn’t use the system to scan each ID and check if they are registered to vote / a citizen.

        Any alien could vote, without ID, by voting a provisional ballot.

        The system is so fucked up! These machines have to go #1!

        Either paper, or a system where I can go to elections.virginia.gov and see right after that my vote counted and for who.

        I chirped second out of the early voting area with some fat ass dem bitches, who were going to take my vote, and make sure it got into a drop-box they were gaurding.

        Something needs to happen, and fast!

  3. Come on now, you know why we need driver’s licenses. So the cops can demand proof of ID to run you for warrants.

    Secondarily to add the black mark to your name so the next cop knows how to treat you.

    Beyond that, general control to track as much of your activity as possible.

  4. Before Christmas we took a road trip in my BMW 335d to Nuremberg to visit the Christkindlesmarkt. I managed to do one sprint to 220kph (140mph), but much of the trip was about spent between 180-200kph (110-125mph). The BMW averaged 7.6l/100km or about 31mpg doing over 100mph.

    What I noticed since it had been several years since I had driven like that on the autobahn, was how disciplined the German drivers were. When your flying down the road at 120mph and one truck pulls out to pass another a few hundred meters down the road, it can get pretty hairy.

    But that doesn’t happen in Germany because the people are used to speed. The trucks, in general, don’t do that and neither do the slower cars. They also in general don’t tailgate as much when they are driving at 120mph. If you are used to driving on the autobahn at 130kph/80mph in your VW and still have cars flying by you at 120 or even 240 kph/150 mph you learn to be a lot more careful. German drivers may or may not be the “best” drivers on the planet, but they certainly have more respect for the speed of high powered Mercedes Audi and BMW flying down the autobahn than any other drivers on the planet. Also, the Autobahns are designed for expert drivers who want to drive fast.

    If the Jews who run the Noahide empire hadn’t flooded Germany with diversity in an attempt to Kalergiize it, Germany would have been the perfect example of how a high trust society with lots of social capital could become a driver / car owner paradise. Ethnic Germans in general love cars and other fine mechanical things. Excellence does not come cheap and if you want to live in a country with high standards of excellence, you have to be willing to make certain sacrifices.

    In the US, you have clovers. Eric Peters spends a lot of time telling us about them and about how inconsiderate they are. This is not “social capital”. Plus the US has a large “diversity” of armed thugs who are always on the prowl looking for someone who has offended their pride.

    The US is an example of the “lowest common denominator” culture of the melting pot. Americans will never be able to have an “autobahn system” because it would be “racist” to force all that diversity to fulfill their responsibilities and to obey universal and common sense rules. Lets face it, I really don’t want to have sheboons chimping out on they cellphones at 120 mph in the car next to me.

    In France the speed limit is 130kmh but most drivers ignore that. What they do is always shoot across from the fast lane to get into the slow lane often just a few meters in front of the guy in the middle lane, especially if they think the guy in the middle lane didn’t move into the slow lane fast enough. The French also often have small trailers, which makes much more sense than owning a 7000lb Ram 2500 to carry your mountain bike in. But they drive like the same maniacs with or without the trailer, crossing all over the autoroute.

    In Italy they have 130kmh speed limit too, but as in France they seem to ignore it. The Italians tailgate too much and also weave in traffic on the autostrada.

    In Spain the speed limit is 120 kmh on the autovia, and pace is more relaxed. There the biggest problem is the “elephant race” with one semi passing another. The trucks are from all over Northern Europe (Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia, etc), and they are constantly pulling out to pass each other for a minute gain of speed and constant forcing passenger cars to react in panic braking manoevers. The trucks have no compunction about slowing traffic to a seeming crawl for several minutes in Spain.

    In Switzerland, limit 120 kph, the laws and fines are very severe because they are based on your wealth. After several episodes of rich Sheiks and Nigerian princes getting caught racing over the alps at German autobahn speeds, the Swiss passed laws to allow them to impound and confiscate their super cars. For the Swiss locals who have a wealth tax instead of an income tax, this is brutal. If you have a decent house in Switzerland you are a millionaire already, and the tax authorities know it. Your traffic fines can run into the 1000’s of dollars. So people generally follow the rules.

    • The reason I stay out of CH is because of their Anti-Driver Laws.
      And I have to disagree with your Assessment of I and F drivers. Maybe they drive quickly in small Towns but the French Police and Italian Speed Cameras are terrible and I find People drive accordingly. My Friend was ticketed in France for 2Km/h over a 50Km/h limit. Also, an ADAC report showed Italy having more Speed Cameras than any other Country in the EU.
      In Germany, there are strict Speed Ticketing Rules – one of which is: 10% over the Limit + 3Km/h is the Actual Limit. This is why the Trucks set their Speed Controls At 90Km/h (80+10% +3Km/h=91).
      I find the best Country outside of Germany to drive is Poland. Spain is boring as Shit.

      • In France the majority of camera’s are fixed and there are signs even warning you that one is ahead. They warn you in Spain, and I believe that is the case in Italy as well.

        I don’t know whether there are also portable/movable police radar nests in Fr, It or Sp, I haven’t been caught in one yet.

        In Switzerland they have both fixed and portable, and the fines can be painful.

        I haven’t been to Poland in years, but my Polish neighbor has complained several times about how the police are total assholes, especially for traffic “violations”.

        • Ho Brosi,

          Imagine my bright orange Trans Am with its lumpy-cammed 455 and no catalytic converters rumbling down a Swiss street…. I suspect they’d keelhaul me.

          • I am certain your car would be a hit at a US car show, there are lots of them across Switzerland in summer.

            On any Sunday in summer there are swarms of Swiss accountants wearing leather riding around in swarms on chopped Harleys with minimal muffling, some probably with straight pipes. They all want to pretend they are Peter Fonda and their “gang” is the Hell’s Angels. Loud and obnoxious doesn’t start to describe it.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4VepNuGB4

            Then there is the Swiss village that denied a Dutch woman citizenship because she complained about the cow bells.

            https://www.vice.com/en/article/switzerland-refused-a-vegan-woman-citizenship-for-being-too-annoying/

            “A longtime resident of Switzerland has been refused a passport because of her outspoken campaign against cowbells. Vegan animal rights activist Nancy Holten, who was born in the Netherlands but has lived in Switzerland since she was eight years old, has been labelled a “big mouth” by the resident committee in her village that has rejected her citizenship application twice.

            Holten’s argument? Wearing heavy metal bells around their necks is causing Switzerland’s roaming cows physical pain and distress. “

        • Small towns with the happy or frown face speed signs. Daughter was usually late on the brakes – she did get one happy face sign, we cheered!

          When visiting Das Vaterland I’d finally took over the driving as her digital driving technique was making her friend carsick. She and family spent 7 years there and she knew the rules but wow the snappy lane changes were too much. I really did enjoy driving there just stay alert and aware on the Autobahn it’s dandy driving among smarter people. I did get tired of the constant tolls in northern France we kissed the ground in Germany on return!

          • Is your daughter still in Switzerland? What town?

            The Peage in France is brutal. It cost us almost €100 to drive across France to Spain. The problem is that if you go on the Route National there are hundreds of roundabouts and hundreds of trucks crawling around the center ornament.

            As a consequence, the poorer French don’t drive that much on the autoroute, and an old smokey Citroen with a couple of pains (French bread) hanging out of the window is still a common sight. Of course the French still being susceptible to drinking a couple of glasses of vin rouge over lunch which the requires special attention when driving in the afternoon.

            • They lived in Germany, visited Switzerland though. My last visit I also saw the sights as we passed through Switzerland on a leg of our trip from Strasbourg to Chamonix. Daughter was a stickler for getting the Swiss Vignette the threat of a €1000 fine made sure if that! Beautiful area of the world, I’m glad I got to visit great memories.

  5. Sometimes I wonder who taught people to drive? I see dawn of the brain dead often, clovers in the left lane who act like acceleration is a dirty word, who don’t move when flashed or honked and impede traffic, or worse, nearly hit you because they dont bother looking or using a turning lane to go straight.

    Too many people are taught by their dead mothers.

  6. I agree, Eric. Hell, in these parts you do not even need to show you know how to drive on icy, snowy roads to obtain a license. After all, illegals can get a license, and they do not have to prove anything, either. On a side note, when it comes to situational awareness, I am glad my newer vehicle does not ding me for-Heaven forbid-looking to the left and right for Bullwinkle or careless drivers.

    • Morning, Shadow!

      Yup. A drivers license merely establishes that driving a car is a conditional privilege rather than a right. It serves that purpose as well as the purpose of imposing an ID requirement on people. It in no way prevents “bad drivers” from driving. This is so obvious it ought not to require further discussion. The whole thing is another mind-fuck and scam. Like everything emanating from government.

      • I will never forget (69 years ago) the comment “Son, driving is a privilege!” as a judge, known locally as Black Mike Travers, told me he was revoking mine for 90 days for passing a car in a traffic circle. Not some tiny “roundabout” to replace a couple stop signs, but a two-lane circle, over a third of a mile around, connecting 5 busy roads.

        He had a stated policy of 90 day revocation for anyone under 18 who appeared in his court. The most telling one was for “squealing the tires recklessly” in a 1948 DeSoto with Fluid Drive. The smoke from the “burn out” covered entire square inches of the township! Nearly 25% of the boys in my graduating class regained the “privilege” of walking at some time during their senior year.

  7. The state driver’s license (AKA driving “privileges”) is required for traveling on government owned roads. It is intended to show that the bearer has demonstrated the minimum ability to operate a vehicle on said roads. Much like the incredibly lax requirements for pharmaceutical products, the bar is so low as to be no impediment at all.

    It didn’t have to be this way.

    Private roads would have requirements for proper driving, including behavior and etiquette. After all, if one is reenacting the scene from the Blues Brothers at Chez Paul, you can be escorted off the premises. No one will complain (at least until you become a professional victim and the politicians catch wind of your misbehavior) when you’re barred from the roadway. I would make the case that if drivers would be a little more courteous the roads would not only be less stressful, they’d be safer.

  8. At the speed some drivers drive, where’s the fire?

    One of my two daughters was speeding down a four-lane highway at 100 mph. A highway patrol chased her down and gave her a speeding ticket.

    He was doing his job, he doesn’t want to have a fatality to report.

    Obey the rules of the road.

    • Hi Drump,

      My rule of the road is to drive at a pace that suits me and not cause harm or hassle to others. That strikes me as reasonable. It certainly ought not to be actionable. If a driver does cause harm, then he ought to be held fully responsible. That is also reasonable – and just. But it is arguably unreasonable and unjust to hassle people who have not caused any harm to anyone solely because they have not hewed to the “rules of the road” – i.e., to arbitrary traffic laws.

      • I agree, Eric. Speed limits are inherently unjust due to arbitrary standards and enforcement.

        I’m in favor of laws prohibiting reckless driving (I recall the legal standard in Michigan, where I grew up, was “willful, wanton disregard for life and/or property”). The problem is enforcement. Most folks would demand some justice served to a perpetrator even if a tragic outcome was somehow miraculously avoided.

      • Speed limits are naturally arbitrary but drumphish’s daughter driving 100 MPH is probably (and I do generalize) not an example of what to do. A new driver or someone with diminished response or that sort of thing -should- drive slower. That’s the responsible thing to do. It cuts both ways. Asserting our rights and privileges requires taking personal responsibility. The problem is we have to cater to the lowest common denominator. The high trust society would allow you to set your own speed limit, trust being that those who need to go slow will go slow, those who can go fast will know how to go fast. It’s not just handling your car at high speed but knowing how to operate it with slower traffic. That’s the hard part. Look at any sports car race, with high dollar manufacturer Prototypes on the same track as production derived GTD. There’s a pretty significant difference in performance and knowing how to work in traffic is a critical skill for both class drivers, how to pass and how to be passed.

        • Well-said, Helen –

          You have summed it up perfectly. It chafes to be held to a least common denominator standard – regardless of one’s own competence – and be held responsible for harms one did not cause while those who actually do cause harm are often not held responsible.

          It’s a kind of Idiocracy meets 1984 and I dinna like it Cap’n!

    • Im guessing you dont drive anything fun. Sometimes the roads are empty and since you paid for the speedometer, might as well use the whole thing

      Unless they’re being maniacs in black, nothing wrong with triple digits, just the pigs ruining your day with tickets and points

      • Ha ha ha! Indeed! I remember when I first bought my WRX, I had to behave because it was Octobre. So, I wound it out in mid-May. There were clear, gorgeous skies, and was out in BFE where there were fewer frost heaves on the road, no people, and only had to watch for the moose. Got the WRX up to 130 mph. It cruises nicely at 80.

        • Oh those things are pocket rockets

          My GR86 can pull from 6th and wants to cruise at 90, 80 is too slow for it. What year WRX do you have again, feel you told me but I forgot

          • It is a 2007. Replaced the original clutch at 219K. It has 235K on the engine and the turbo is wearing out. I would love to drop a new engine and turbo in that thing. I left the turbo alone, did not try to alter it like other guys do and did not blow up the engine. Although it sits low to the ground it handles nicely on snow and ice. Also, at the rate new vehicles
            are going with the safety crap, that ’07 may serve me well again in the future.

            • Think 07 was the last year WRX’s came with LSD’s. Could always do a STI swap in the future for more power, but you’re doing great if you got that many miles on it, so keep it up!

              Subimods is also a great site for parts, Im on silver tier with them. My good friend has a ‘16 STi, thing has the potential to be a monster, he’s a kid brother essentially, so you know hes going for big turbos and power.

              Me? Im just doing a clutch spring, wide pedal and gas pedal spacer for the easier driving/heel toe, then gonna do the short shifter and bushings. Short of a turbo, GR86/BRZs arent gonna make a lot of power, but they’re definitely a ton of fun

  9. When he got his first drivers license, my dad went to Shreveport where his older sister lived. He filled out a form, paid a dollar, and had the license mailed to his sister’s address — no written test; no road test; no verification of residence. Just a simple permit, like a fishing license. Revenue for the state, nothing more.

    This was during WW II, when people were being conditioned to fill out forms, sign up for ration cards, have payroll taxes withheld (thanks to Milton Friedman) — all to support the war effort. War always destroys civil liberties.

    As late as the 1980s, driver licenses were still just printed on card stock with a state seal on it – no photo; no bar code. I avoided getting a photo license until they were no longer available.

    Where I live now, there’s a project to put ear tags and radio collars on elk. The state is curious to find out how far they range; what they do during the day; where they sleep at night.

    Likewise, we are the state’s tax cattle. Flock’s automated license plate readers tell our minders where we’ve been been. Vehicle telematics tell car makers and insurers how fast we drove to get there.

    Remember philosophy? In college, it was considered a rather arcane discipline — Kant, Heidegger, et al — all them old, dead European white guys. As an armchair philosopher king, I’ve pitched my literary agent on a tome to be titled The Exquisite Dilemma of the Intelligent Human Lab Rat. Subtitle: Coping with Institutionalized Existence on a Weaponized Prison Planet.

    • YES, I remember the 10 years I spent at the University to get a B.A. in Philosophy! (also a B.S. in Computer Science). Holy shit, the academic version of ‘philosophy’ is what I call Orthodox Philosophy. A grueling trek through the History of Ideas, based on ‘assumptions’ and ‘positions’ and endless reading about the ‘ancient’ Greeks.

      I wrote a paper on ‘Philosophicus’ God of Philosophy and used emails with the professor to create a Dialogue exposing the fallacious nature of orthodox philosophy. Didn’t go over too well. hehe Damn fun going to school in Florida for 10 years though!!!

  10. Here’s something to consider. It’s from this comprehensive statement of your Rights, created as an affidavit to be filed On The Record of the court, as an ultimate defense, as long as you know what every word of it means- very important. http://billsropesupply.com/Affidavit%20of%20Truth-Declaration%20of%20Political%20Status.doc

    4. The use of a driver’s license. As a free Sovereign, there is no legal requirement for me to have such a license for traveling in my car. Technically, the unrevealed legal purpose of driver’s licenses is commercial in nature. Since I don’t carry passengers for hire, there is no law requiring me to have a license to travel for my own pleasure and that of my family and friends. However, because of the lack of education of police officers on this matter, should I be stopped for any reason and found to be without a license, it is likely I would be ticketed and fined or obligated to appear in court. Therefore, under duress, I carry a license to avoid extreme inconvenience and violent attacks from ignorant and predatory police ‘officers’.

    5. State plates on my car. Similarly, even though technically, my car does not fit the legal definition of a “motor vehicle,” which is used for commercial purposes, nevertheless, I have registered it with the state and carry the state plates on it, because to have any other plates or no plates at all, causes me to run the risk of police officer harassment, violence, injury or death, and extreme inconvenience and harm caused by ignorant and violent badged predators.

  11. The purpose of something is what it does. The totalitarian SmotherMother feminist state wants you tagged and mulcted, so tagged and mulcted you will be. Logic and reason are entirely irrelevant.

  12. No, you don’t really need a license to Drive.
    You need the license to keep badged predators from beating you, shooting you, and dragging you out and locking you in a cage. That’s what the ‘license’ is really for.
    http://billsropesupply.com/law.html Been needing to update this page for a while.

    A ‘Driver’ WAS someone who got paid to drive someone or something somewhere for money.
    That WAS the only ‘license’ but since the Definitions were changed EVERYBODY is a ‘driver’.
    Your Right To Travel Freely was buried along with your Natural Unalienable Rights in the massive fraud of legaleese shat out by BAR ASSOCIATION attorners in its ‘Color of Law’ statutes.

    I have old videos made by people stopped by cops, explaining to the police the actual Law that allows them to travel without a license or tags, and the police letting them go! Now it’s more likely they will just smash your window, tase you, drag you out and haul you off to jail.

    • Exactly, Bill –

      The income tax is similar. Peter Schiff and others have adduced evidence and made compelling arguments that the income tax is not actually legal (as well as obviously immoral) but good luck with that. Power does indeed flow from the barrel of a gun.

      • HA! I’m glad you brought that up, Eric. The ‘income tax’ is Legal BUT it is also VOLUNTARY! Yes, the word magic they use to convince you to pay is the same word magic you use NOT to pay. It’s all about the DEFINITIONS.

        “INCOME” IS NOT “ALL THAT COMES IN.” There is much more.
        Look at these documents if you want to figure it out for yourself:

        https://losthorizons.com/Cracking_the_Code.htm

        https://www.losthorizons.com/Newsletter/CtCStudyGuide.pdf

        http://billsropesupply.com/TheTruthInTenSegments.pdf

        • “Voluntary”. But you cannot get a job without being forced to sign the W-2 forms ahead of time “allowing” your employer to take out the taxes from the money you should have been able to keep for yourself.

          • Shadow- it’s way more than that but what you say is partly true and covered in detail in the book. Go read the documents.

            Eric- Here, I’ll tell you federal tax fraud scam I know personally, for the record or in case somebody else needs it. I was searching for something to do with my property tax or something online and discovered this court case and judgement putting a $20,000 fucking dollar lien on my property! WHAT THE FUCK!

            How can they put a twenty-thousand dollar lien on your land and not notify you of any filings, hearings or anything whatsoever to even know that there was a case against you?
            Well, the federal government does whatever it wants and too bad if you don’t like it.

            You buy a few hundred grand in CDs from investment company like Edward Jones. You used to make 5% on CDs so you make 12 grand say. You don’t feel your ‘income’ is enough to file a 1040 so you don’t. Edward Jones does file a 1099 saying you had a few hundred grand or so. Five (5) years later the IRS sees it and makes what they call a ‘comparable 1040 return’, forget what they call it exactly but it is the Worst Possible for you that it could be. Now it’s got penalty fees and they file it in State Court which here uses the federal tax form exactly to calculate state tax. It’s late, unpaid — even though you don’t even know about it — and the court issues a Lien against your home and land!

            You call and they tell you oh yes you must pay your tax, bla, bla, bla, (or more likely yada, yada, yada) hehe. BUT you discover the simple solution and remedy to ALL THIS BULLSHIT is as simple as filing what is called an, “Unfiled Tax Return” for that year even if it was 10 years ago. I think it was 8 in this case but this is a case where it IS necessary to protect yourself from someone filing a 1099-misc or whatever if you have any investments.

            FILED THE ‘UNFILED TAX RETURN’ waited a few weeks AND IT ALL WENT AWAY. $20,000 LIEN REMOVED AND CASE TERMINATED! JUST LIKE THAT.

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