Well, let’s start with the name. It is demeaning. Sheep run in flocks. Are herded. The name tells us what those who intend to herd us have in mind for us. Keep in mind what eventually happens to sheep. Our would-be shepherds – so to speak – are not herding us to “keep us safe.” They intend to fence us in – so hat we are easier to shear. They do not say this, of course. They say it is for our safety.
By now, people should reflexively become alarmed whenever they hear others talk about their “safety.”
Everyone is naturally self-interested in their own safety. It is a survival mechanism. Children learn it isn’t safe to play in traffic. Adults know it isn’t safe to go for a walk in bad neighborhoods. Part of growing up is learning to evaluate risk and to decide for oneself whether it is too much risk. There is risk in varying degrees in everything. Some risks – such as asking a pretty girl for a date – are worth taking. Some risks – such as jumping out of a perfectly good airplane – may not be worth taking. Note the subjective. Worth varies. There is no absolute standard; it is a valuation made by the individual. Some individuals may feel it is not worth the risk – of embarrassment or rejection – to ask a pretty girl for a date. Some individuals may feel it is. Some may think the rush of skydiving is worth it because the risk of something going wrong with the parachute is slight.
The only one who has the right to make such valuations is the individual.
The Flock people – specifically, CEO Garrett Langley – believe otherwise, or so they pretend to believe. The premise underlying the placing of cameras everywhere people go is that it will keep the “flock” safe. In other words, that it is a benevolent, altruistic operation. Something like a mom keeping an eye on her kid while he’s playing outside. Except of course Garret Langley is not our mother and is not motivated by motherly protective instincts. He is motivated by pecuniary interests; i.e., the desire to make money.
This is the other real motive behind “safety.”
In the car world, “safety” doesn’t sell as much as it is imposed – another hugely important distinction. Air bags, for instance. Initially, they were offered rather than imposed. You could buy them if you wanted to but were free not to. An attempt was made to sell people “safety.” The attempt failed because not enough people were sold. It is possible that might have changed over time. The original air bags of the early ’70s were very expensive options. If the cost had been brought down, perhaps enough people would have been willing to buy. That is not the approach that was taken, of course. Air bags were imposed – on everyone who buys a new vehicle. The car industry (as well as the insurance industry, which is in fact a mafia) has a tremendous pecuniary interest in this kind of “safety.” Vast sums are made by forcing everyone who buys a new car to buy air bags – and vast sums are made (taken, is more accurate) by the insurance mafia, which imposes higher costs for “coverage”due to the greater costs involved in fixing and replacing air-bagged vehicles and never mind that prattle they once purveyed about how “safer” cars would reduce costs. If you bought that, you’re a sucker – and have been treated accordingly.
Flock (and Ring and Axon) want to treat you accordingly, too. They insist having our every move watched and recorded is a benevolence. This assumes every law is and will be benevolent – and never mind the money they are planning on making on their benevolence via recording and every instance of scofflawing, such as making an illegal U-turn or using a phone while driving; all the millions of things that human cops can’t catch everyone doing. The plan is to sell that juicy data to the government and the insurance mafia, who shear us and pay Flock for the shears.
Of course, they have already conditioned the masses to accept this as a good thing by having taught them to accept that scofflawing is a bad thing; i.e., that is always and necessarily wrong to not obey every law because it’s the law. Most people agree with this, having been conditioned to agree with it. Getting them to un-agree is vitally important. Getting them to draw the critically important distinction between an action that is wrong as such (what is called malum in se in law) and an action that is considered wrong because it is illegal (malum prohibitum) is vitally important.
Murder is wrong as such. Making an “illegal” U-turn is not.
Flock, et al, do not want this distinction to be made. What they want is to make money. The government wants money and control. There you have it. Money – and control – the two real reasons why all these cameras are being put up everywhere. Well, not exactly everywhere. There are no cameras in Garrett Langley’s home. His bedroom and bathroom. Why not? We have no idea what he might be doing in there. It could be something bad!
Wouldn’t we all be safer if we knew?
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On the heels of this thread (and article), this one from “Biometrics Update” came up. The next generation of “saaafety”. In this case, a website (Clarity Check) that (quote) ClarityCheck offers reverse phone, email, image and vehicle lookup services. Its website describes “an online digital investigation service that uses reverse image search technology and claims to help users identify individuals, detect catfishing, investigate suspicious online profiles, and perform OSINT-based identity verification.”
In the case of a service like ClarityCheck, Fowler says, “the marketed purpose of the platform is the re-identification of individuals by allowing users (anonymous and registered) to upload an image of a person and attempting to connect that image to publicly available information, online profiles, or other identifying records.”
https://www.biometricupdate.com/202608/claritychecks-exposed-biometric-databases-present-major-identity-theft-fraud-risk
Just wait until the Flock cameras (or drones) have weapons attached to them. How convenient it will be, that Flock could end up being judge, juror, and executioner all rolled up into one. Forget the jury and your sitting in jail, they will just shoot you as you drive to work, whether you are guilty of anything (maybe thinking for yourself?) or not.
Has anybody seen the black MTG, Angie Nixon, who beat Vindman in FL senate Democrat primary yesterday? Check her out being interviewed on “morning joe;” questions are all about Israel. @12:31. [she won 705k to 552k; Republican winner got 1.3M votes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUfMyInqRo
(AI) “Angie Nixon did not run any traditional linear television ads during her primary campaign, relying instead on grassroots organizing and social media. While her well-funded opponent outspent her heavily on TV, Nixon won her primary upset with virtually no televised advertising footprint.
Campaign Advertising Details
“Traditional TV Ads: None. Nixon did not purchase linear television spots for her campaign.
“Spending Comparison: Her opponent spent millions on television advertising, whereas Nixon’s campaign operated on a tiny fraction of that budget, focusing funds elsewhere.
“Strategy: She chose to focus on face-to-face community outreach, grassroots mobilization, and digital platforms rather than broadcast media.”
H/T DRUDGE: MAG: Flock Has Powerful New Tool for Police. We Got Its Code…
Goes MUCH Further Than Tracking License Plates…
Fastest-growing business: 60 mph police drones that track cars from sky…
“Flock Has a Powerful New AI Tool for Police. We Got Its Code
Flock’s surveillance cameras have already sparked outrage. WIRED reconstructed its next-generation AI system, already in use by some police, to confirm it goes much further than tracking license plates….
“Privacy and legal experts say Flock’s tools already raise serious constitutional concerns by giving police broad, often warrantless access to a vast record of people’s movement. But the prompts WIRED examined go further, turning a tool for finding a known vehicle into one that casts suspicion on drivers based on where and how often they drive, regardless of whether they are wanted for a crime.
“Flock built its business on a simple transaction. A camera photographs a passing car, converts the plate to text, and checks it against a list of vehicles police are looking for. Cars that are not on the list are recorded and otherwise ignored. OS Investigate’s pre-loaded prompts describe an inversion of that arrangement. An officer no longer needs a plate, a name, or a crime to begin. They supply a place, a stretch of time, and a pattern of behavior, and the system is designed to hand back the people who fit.
“All 69 of the prompts are offered to officers as a menu of canned searches. Selecting one pastes it into a chat box, where the officer can review or edit it before clicking again to submit…[describes different searches which are pretty amazing]
…Flock has said little about the tool in public, but Garrett Langley, its chief executive, once likened it to a crime analyst who is, in his words, “always awake, always watching out for you.” At a demonstration for police chiefs in Denver last year, Langley described the ability to search every camera in a city for cars tailing an armored truck, pulling up the registered owners of those vehicles and checking their arrest records, in under a minute.
Investigators who try it, he said, get “addicted.”
https://archive.ph/hv7Sm
H/T Drudge: Flock’s fastest-growing business is 60 mph police drones that can read license plates from the sky; Privacy groups warn that flying plate readers could expand surveillance far beyond roadside cameras
https://www.techspot.com/news/113541-flock-fastest-growing-business-60-mph-police-drones.html
Per 1st article from Wired: “The company Langley started in Atlanta”
(AI): “Atlanta, Georgia is the most surveilled city in the United States when measured by camera density, with approximately 124 public and private surveillance cameras for every 1,000 residents. While New York City and Chicago have higher total numbers of cameras due to their massive size, Atlanta leads per capita.”
“According to research from Comparitech’s 2024 U.S. Surveillance Camera Study, nearly 537,000 cameras operate across the 50 largest U.S. cities — averaging about 11 cameras per 1,000 residents. Some cities far exceed that average.
Atlanta, Ga. — 124 cameras per 1,000 residents
Washington, D.C. — 55 cameras per 1,000 residents
Philadelphia, Pa. — 31 cameras per 1,000 residents
San Francisco, Calif. — 25 cameras per 1,000 residents
Denver, Colo. — 20 cameras per 1,000 residents
Chicago, Ill. — 19 cameras per 1,000 residents
Albuquerque, N.M. — 17 cameras per 1,000 residents
Detroit, Mi. — 17 cameras per 1,000 residents
Las Vegas, Nev. — 16 cameras per 1,000 residents
Memphis, Tenn. — 14 cameras per 1,000 residents
https://videoloft.com/10-most-watched-cities-in-america/
A revision to the West Side Story number, “Officer Krupke”
“…Officer Krupke….FLOCK YOU!”
[…] https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2026/08/19/whats-wrong-with-flock/ […]
“There are no cameras in Garrett Langley’s home. His bedroom and bathroom.”
Not sure why you think he doesn’t have cameras in his home, many people have jumped on this bandwagon and have cameras on their front doors (and who knows where else). I think you published a video/song some guy made of the police eating cake in his house (?) –probably not bed and bath due to blackmail risk (but may have a button in case they fall to call 911 for them):
AI: “Invisible Perimeters: Long before an intruder can reach a bedroom, they encounter laser-powered perimeter fences, thermal imaging at the property line, and ground-vibration sensors hidden beneath lawns.
“Hallway and Portal Monitoring: Security cameras are strictly limited to transitional zones like entryways, hallways, stairwells, and the exterior entry doors leading into the master suite.
“Safe Rooms (Serenity Rooms): Many wealthy individuals build fortified panic rooms directly adjacent to or disguised within their master bedrooms. These rooms feature reinforced, ballistics-grade doors, independent ventilation systems, and dedicated communications arrays.
“Non-Visual Sensors: Inside bedrooms, security teams utilize pressure-sensitive floor mats under rugs, breaking-glass acoustic sensors, and motion detectors that register movement without generating a video or photo feed.
“Biometric Locks: “Biometric Locks: Access to master suites and private wings is frequently restricted via biometric scanners (fingerprint or iris scans) to ensure only authorized residents or staff can enter.”
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I think you’re a bit late on the bus to worry about this now. Everywhere you go: work, school, mall, gas station, store, gym, bank, public building, restaurant they have cameras inside and out. Still want the camera surveillance on the pentagon for 911 plane crash (2001/cameras weren’t working); same with Charlie Kirk shooting–first thing they always do is go to the cameras. In DC on Jan 6 they had facial surveillance cameras – possibly “real time” facial surveillance grid.
https://www.wired.com/story/some-us-cities-moving-real-time-facial-surveillance/
AI: “A municipal facial recognition grid is a citywide network of interconnected surveillance cameras integrated with artificial intelligence (AI) software designed to automatically identify, track, and profile individuals in public spaces. Unlike traditional CCTV systems that merely record video for later playback, a grid transforms a city’s camera infrastructure into a searchable database that scans human faces in real time or retroactively.
“How a Municipal Grid Works
“Widespread Camera Nodes: High-definition cameras are mounted densely across a city on utility poles, street intersections, government buildings, and public transit.
“Biometric Vectoring: As pedestrians walk by, the AI isolates faces, measuring specific facial geometry (e.g., the distance between eyes or nose length). It converts these features into a mathematical string of numbers called a “faceprint”.
“Database Cross-Referencing: The system instantly cross-references these face prints against specific watch lists, which can include police mugshots, driver’s license databases, or custom “hot lists”.
“Real-Time Alerting: If a match threshold is met, the system pushes an automated notification containing the individual’s identity and exact location to law enforcement or municipal operators.”
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They also have aerial surveillance:
(AI): Numerous cities globally deploy aerial surveillance through tools like drones, police helicopters, and manned spy planes for law enforcement, monitoring public gatherings, and tracking crimes. 2 of numerous examples: Washington, D.C.: Authorized the Metropolitan Police Department to use surveillance drones in limited situations alongside a new tech-heavy police helicopter. Atlanta, GA: Integrates high-density ground cameras with floating aerial surveillance technology.
(AI) FedGov: “U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP): Operates unarmed or unarmed-configured Predator B/MQ-9 drones routinely along the U.S.–Mexico border and occasionally for domestic surveillance support during major events or protests (such as flights over Minneapolis and Los Angeles).”
Hi AJ,
I mean cameras that we control – so that we can observe him, as he observes us.
It’s a lot worse than what Flock publicly admits, says a Wired article today:
‘Flock’s software chains vehicle searches to queries against police records that sort people by sex, race, ethnicity, height, weight, build, scars, marks, and tattoos. One prompt searches by description alone, asking for records matching “male, ~6ft, black hoodie, forearm tattoo” near a location. The tool allows an officer to bound those criteria by selecting a radius or drawing arbitrary shapes on a map.
‘[This] closely resembles what the US Supreme Court took up in June, when it held that people keep a privacy interest in records of where they have been, and that the Fourth Amendment applies when police demand those records from a company. Here, police departments buy that capability outright, opening space for fishing expeditions on a scale that has no precedent.’
https://archive.ph/hv7Sm#selection-2559.72-2563.380
Everywhere you go, you’re in the Panopticon. Reminds me of a conversation in a science fiction story I read as a boy:
Robocop: ‘Profession?’
Citizen: ‘Writer.’
Robocop: [interpreting] ‘Unemployed.‘ 🙁
This week I went into Walmart with a friend. I was surprised to see her greeted by name on the self-checkout screen, which never happens to me. Why the difference?
‘If you have the Walmart app installed, have Bluetooth/Wi-Fi enabled, or are logged into store internet, the app can handshake with the register to pull up your profile automatically.’ — Gulag AI
She has the Walmart app; I don’t. So I’m missing out on a digital experience that I don’t want in the first place.
Ever notice how many merchants offer up-front discounts if you purchase through their app? Apps are spyware. That’s why I shun them like rat poison.
Speaking of Wal-Mart and apps, years ago I was at Wally World (which I hate to go to). The lady in front of me-items all bagged up and ready-was trying to pay for her stuff via an app on her phone. Whoops, the app did not work as it was supposed to (?), and she had to leave her stuff behind. Talk about a vision into the future.
It’s all about safety.
https://www.azfamily.com/2026/08/19/small-arizona-town-embraces-flock-cameras-sparking-privacy-concerns/?outputType=amp
One nice thing… A town without a police department. What a dream.
“They insist having our every move watched and recorded is a benevolence.”
It’s not just the camera companies and government, it’s the AI overlords as well.
Gamer’s Nexus discussing circular AI financing and the goals and intentions of Sam Altman, Jensen Huang, et al.
“Imagine every moment of your life being recorded” is presented as future utopia. “It’ll be like having a photographic memory!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F33Ohjufi9k
Latest money grab, school zone speed ticket cameras 24/7:
https://komonews.com/news/local/city-of-edmonds-considers-activating-school-zone-speed-cameras-24-hours-a-day-7-days-a-week
Apparently 20 MPH at all hours, not just when kids are around, JFC.
And more cities in Western WA jumping on this, Bellevue WA on the news last night going forward.
“Well, let’s start with the name. It is demeaning. Sheep run in flocks. Are herded.” Exactly Eric and thanks for writing this essay. They are mocking us – just like they did with Operation Iraqi Liberation, O.I. L.
“Operation Iraqi Liberation was an early name used for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which was later officially renamed Operation Iraqi Freedom. The operation aimed to disarm Iraq, remove Saddam Hussein from power, and establish a democratic government,”
BTW even “OIL” was a ruse, it was not about oil, it was about Israel. We attacked Iraq for Israel. That should be crystal clear at this point in Revelation. (Yes Virginia, you are literally living in the time of Bible Revelations), the USA is the beast, ‘Who can make war with the beast?” Iran can, lol.
The USA military beast attacked Iraq because Amerika is the hammer of Israel, Israel did 911, cowardly Amerikan pussies allow Jews to do false flags on our soil, then we allow the Jews to march us into wars against the enemies of Israel – just as we are allowing the Trump, make war or Iran.
Here are 2 strong patriot women NOT AFRAID to talk truth:
Trump Sold MAGA Out | With MTG
Kim Iversen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTgfo7fsqc&t=24s
Look up flock location maps in NYC…
According to flock camera location maps, there are NO flock cameras within the jewish sections in NYC.
THAT speaks VOLUMES.
For just once, I wish I could find a nefarious criminal enterprise that does not involve jews, but I cannot as they do not exist.
Thanks, I am going to investigate and bullhorn that information.
Their own propaganda is delusional, since safety is a delusion. You will die, regardless what you do to avoid it. No one gets out alive. One may slip and fall in their bathroom, and die. shall we stop using the bathroom?
Yep, sheeple who clamor for safety end up in an electronic stockyard to be sheared or butchered. With flock, the wolves will be able to pick off anyone they want. They are already using AI to control traffic lights, to flip the light from green to yellow to try to get you to speed up to beat the light, only to have a camera trap get you going through a red light. Ka ching!
Unfortunately the technology exists and keeps “improving”. The time to stop he surveillance was at least 30 years ago, now it’s so deeply dug in to every aspect of our society it cannot be eradicated.
Cutting down flock cameras, while viscerally very satisfying, is a dangerous and useless act of defiance. The contractors installing them get more money for reinstalling them, the posts will get tougher, and they will just put them in more hidden or inaccessible locations. And it will all be charged to the victims, exactly like the Chinese Communists charging the victim’s family for the bullet they used to murder them.
So what is to be done? The vast majority of the people are stupid animals, a literal flock that wants to dominate their neighbors far more than they want freedom. Until a significant minority is willing to fight back hard, it will continue to get worse. More laws, more cops, more surveillance, more taxes, more fines, more fees.
And don’t forget the burgeoning number of AI data centers to record and remember your every “sin” so the satanic state can blackmail into compliance you at leasure.
Minding your own business is no longer allowed, the voting process is corrupted at any level above a $100k budget or 200 voters. Shooting back will get you killed, and we’re still in a place where enough are comfortable and won’t do that.
My personal solution is to ignore their laws, and avoid their system, but that gets harder by the day. Oh, and to stay active politically so as to at least occupy a seat which would otherwise be held by someone worse.
This is pretty black, but my point is that we can’t change what’s been done to us, but we can figure out how to react to it. Be ungovernable is a real approach, and perhaps the only one.
When people prefer slavery and chains over freedom, you know that society is doomed. Sadly, you are right. Those who do not want this Flock crap are sadly, a thin minority.
There is always a remnant.
So what is to be done? Drones, Amerikan patriots are going to be forced into a kinetic revolution, talk is cheap, to secure our freedom we are going to be forced into a real civil war droning the data centers and police stations being used to control us.
Openly defying flock cameras is the first brave step of the people starting to resist this totally alien JEW run government. Notice we never voted or even debated agreeing to being flocked, run over by hoardes of illegals, or going to wars for Israel. They are imposing their SATANIC WILL on us.
It’s a small step, but I see it as a positive. We aren’t there yet, it will get worse before it gets better, but people are beginning to figure it out.
Garret Langley, LOL! One would think people would get hip to this cutout caricature bullshit. Is this guy even legit? Probably has some deep state, spook background. I get the feeling that creepy degenerate ghoul Theeil is elbows to assholes deep in this. In addition to the cameras, I believe they make gunshot locators. Its all falling into place for the dystopian fucks who want to rule without the consent of the governed. Although looking around at my fellow Murkins, I feel like most of them still don’t have a clue. Perhaps now would be a good time for some cosmic intervention. The people who stare at screens are a sad lot.
Well, Langley is in Virginia and home to the spook factory. The guy is a fairly obvious tool, a geek who begs to focus hate on himself. So maybe Garrett Langley is another punch in the face for those who notice.
Nah, they’d never do that.
At this point I feel like the puppy getting his face rubbed in it. And I didn’t even shit or piss where I wasn’t supposed to..
Sort of like Fauci, meaning “maker of sickles”, being a real grim reaper.
Except the gunshot detectors don’t work very well, mostly generate false alarms, and are easily defeated with commin inexpensive everyday objects.
I think I read a piece, some time ago, cant recall when or where, how the gunshot detectors were fooled by a bunch of construction guys with nail guns on a job site. IIRC, the constabulary rolled in hot, thinking it was some active shooter scenario.
Maybe not pneumaticallly operated nail guns, but possibly by powder driven stud guns, particularly the high velocity guns, which used special 0.27 caliber high velocity charges. These stud guns are now considered obsolete, but the large diameter high velocity pins were mandatory in SoCal in the 1970s-1980s due to seismic risk.
I respect those who have the stones to cut down the cameras.
Me too, MH, I love the message it sends.
Hi Mike & MH. I had read recently of someone taking an entire pole that had a Flock camera on it. Found the article. The guy is in Florida. The “pursuing legal and political avenues to challenge their use” line at the end of the article. Yeah, I can just see some left-wing, Communist judge finding Flock to be perfectly legal. Just as these same, legal avenues have insisted no one has any expectation of privacy in public. https://thenerdstash.com/florida-man-allegedly-steals-flock-camera-while-draped-in-american-flag-now-get-the-rest/
Ad for Flock in 2030: “What’s your score?”
Flock is what you get when someone looks at the Chinese Social Credit Score surveillance system and sees how they’ve driven the technology down to the point of it being ridiculously cheap. But because it is something that, if it had to be bought by the various municipalities might attract attention, they came up with a freemium model instead: Let us install these security cameras and we’ll give you the data on demand. No capital expenditure means no budget line item that can be scrutinized. Quick Yea/Nay vote at the council meeting. No one held accountable for these things going in.
Meanwhile they begin to make money by tying your cyber self to the physical world. You drive past this grocery store twice a day, so here’s a bunch of targeted ads. Except that the grocery store doesn’t want to advertise to YOU because 1) They already have 90% of the market and 2) you’re not the high dollar spender open to new products they desire. So you continue to get the same mismatched ads you get now and you get Big Brother watching you do 40 in a 35 zone every morning.
These VC firms are getting to be pretty bold in what they’re selling. Andreessen Horowitz backing Skydio. Taser, Inc morphing into a holding company for surveillance. And then there’s In-Q-Tel. A little VC firm who’s funded by the CIA. Talk about a dream match for camera companies who don’t want to fight Apple’s new iPhone for business. Just get your pitch deck right and you’ll have unlimited access to cash. Better have a corporate chef for the lunchroom on the short list of founders!
Remember when everyone called you a nut if you thought that fluoride in the water was to make the population docile and compliant? Now you’re a crazy kook if you point at the camera and complain.
For the love of money is the root of all evil.
The more I think about this, the more I’ve come to the conclusion that the best way to push back is to publicly surveil everybody that allows and enables these cameras (even down to the people installing them). This will be an easy crowd-sourced task. All that’s needed is a website for the public to post the video (perhaps deflock.com can do this). I mean every aspect of their lives needs to be surveilled and posted, gym, grocery store, proctologist, vacations, etc. They need to have a swarm of citizen paparazzi pointing cameras 24/7.
“There are no cameras in Garrett Langley’s home. His bedroom and bathroom. Why not? We have no idea what he might be doing in there. It could be something bad!”
Excellent point. Nor are there cameras in the bedrooms or toilets of the cops who use Flock. Or their spouses.
Maybe we need no-knock searches of every cop’s wife’s bedroom? There might be evidence of something illegal — like prostitution — in there!
Or maybe a big black strap-on…
Or maybe just a big Black.
The 1985 comedy, “Moving Violations”, had James Keach as a corrupt cop getting the rubber strap-on from the corrupt judge portrayed by Sally Kellerman.
Who needs Flock cameras? Your home wifi can monitor you already:
‘Using nothing but the traffic from an ordinary WiFi network, a Karlruhe Institute of Technology system identified people with 99.5 percent accuracy in a study of 197 participants, regardless of viewing angle or how the person walked.
‘The method exploits beamforming feedback information (BFI) – housekeeping signals that every connected device sends back to the router so it can aim its transmissions efficiently. Beamforming has shipped with consumer WiFi hardware since WiFi 5. Because this feedback travels unencrypted, anyone within radio range can read it and, using a trained model, convert it into a crude radio image of whoever is present.
‘The person being identified does not need to be carrying a device at all; it is enough that other people’s nearby phones and laptops are talking to the router. “This technology turns every router into a potential means for surveillance,” KIT’s Julian Todt warned. He described a scenario in which someone who regularly walks past a café running a WiFi network could be recognized there later – by authorities or companies – without ever knowing it happened.’
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/comcast-turns-millions-routers-motion-sensors-same-wifi-signals-can-id-you-995-accuracy
From the same article:
‘In 2025, the IEEE ratified 802.11bf, an amendment that deliberately builds sensing capabilities into WiFi – such as presence detection, fall detection, and breathing monitoring – and early implementations are already appearing in silicon.’
Of course, enemy auto makers already are jumping on board, to supplement their crude infrared driver monitoring with higher-res RF detection. ‘Cars as spyware’ is a concept that needs to be rejected and crushed. Where is the Luigi who will enforce accountability on these malicious clowns?
Hi Jim,
There shouldn’t need to be a Luigi, because if this country’s citizens had any balls they stop using this stuff and making excuses for continuing to use it.
We all know cell phones collect data on us, but yet people refuse to leave home without them. We know such stores as Walmart and Lidl use dynamic pricing, yet people continue to shop there. We know leased routers track our whereabouts, yet people continue to rent them. We know new cars surveil us, yet people continue to buy them.
The whole damn system would fall if we all stood up and shouted “NO” and refused to participate, but if we are surrounded by ninnies who use excuses of “That’s the way it is” or “There’s nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide”.
People think I am nuts because I refuse to hand over my driver’s license to be scanned, refuse to carry a tracking device, and provide bad information when the stores ask for name and number. We all deserve the right to privacy and not being spied on, but some days it feels like a losing battle when everyone around you is willing to sign up and play along.
It has become abundantly clear that most of the men that populate this forum have no stones.
They keep buying new cars
They are the victim of women
They are the victims of religion
They were “forced” to take the jab
Everything is someone else’s fault
No is not a word in their vocabulary.
Hey Pat, who are these “most of the men” you speak of? I’ve been here for a long time and I’m not seeing what you claim about most of the men here. I think you might be engaging in some Jungian projection here.
That’s curious, Pat –
I never once wore a mask, never took any “vaccines.” I do not buy new cars. I do not hate or avoid women, either.
Nor do I shy away from the company of attractive women – but I do deny them my “essence”.
We need a thousand Luigis from every level of society. Every city council chamber should be filled with them. That whole ‘murder is never ever ever justified’ BS is a jewish/jesuit construct. And it only applies to those not in their tiny club.
Hi Norman,
Here is the problem with murder. You better know damn well who you are killing and why. There are no do overs.
You say there should be a 1000 Luigi’s. Did any of know us Brian Thompson personally? Do any of us know any of these people personally that we say should be slaughtered? I am all for offing people who have done horrible deeds…Jeffrey Dahmer, Susan Smith, Jeffrey Epstein, John Wayne Gacy, etc. Victims (or their families) should be able to avenge the harm done to them and theirs. The third partiers need to stay out of it though.
Most things in life are rumors and propaganda. Some of it is outright lies and falsified accounts. Did someone like Thompson deserve to be murdered? Was he personally denying the claims of United Health clients? At the end of the day human beings are a combination of good and bad. Is there evil in this world? Absolutely. But, how many people are truly satanic that outright murder is the answer?
While I do not approve the murder of the United Healthcare CEO, it is easy to see why there are those who would approve of such tactics.
My own experience with United Healthcare:
I was paying out-of-pocket $360.00 bi-weekly for employer-sponsored health insurance through United Healthcare. I was making good money, so that was not an undue burden on me.
EVERY SINGLE VALID CLAIM FOR SERVICES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED WAS DENIED.
Some of my fellow employees just shrugged their shoulders and paid out-of-pocket for claims that should have been covered.
NOT ME.
After close to a year of denied claims, I took the whole package to my Human Resources Department, angrily slamming them on the HR person’s desk.
HR got all of the claims paid.
United Healthcare still refused future claims. Submitting the claim denials to HR was my only solution.
If I had my way, United Healthcare would be put out of business with its board of directors prosecuted and incarcerated for fraud…
” If I had my way, United Healthcare would be put out of business with its board of directors prosecuted and incarcerated for fraud…”
And this is the real problem, the ultra rich and their lawyers own the legal system. So that vital feedback loop is lost and the problem literally grows out of control.
Hi Ernie,
Maybe I am optimistically naïve that I still believe change can happen and these systems, procedures, and protocols can be undone.
We have all forgot how to work together to accomplish a goal. How were the Unions created? Workers got together and demanded better conditions, right? What would happen if workers got together and approached HR and went “Hey, we don’t want United Healthcare, find something else.” And not just only company, but several hundred, even thousands of companies. All of a sudden the bottom line starts nosediving at UHC.
I agree with you that Joe Blow doesn’t stand a chance against million dollar lawyers and global conglomerates, but those aren’t the only ways to make a difference.
It worked for anarchyst, did it not? He didn’t demand a new health insurance company, but his way did create results.
Good points, young lady. You are correct about there being no do overs. And, that the payback should be reserved for the families. I feel well qualified regarding Fauchi.
Not advocating for ‘slaughter,’ or wonton murder. The point about rumor and propaganda is valid. Humanity has been fed a diet of outright lies and dog shit our entire lives. In America we got the ‘all you can eat buffet’ version. I’m grateful I’m able to adjust my thinking as new information presents itself. But, since tptb own all the information, discernment is often difficult for me.
Still have a conscience that filters it all and tells me in my heart whats true and whats not. It is a process, which strangely, looks more and more like what some would call becoming radicalized.
ROFLMAO.
You are fantastic, sir. 🙂
RG, LM gave the reasons he targeted Brian Thompson and why he murdered him the way he did so no one else would be injured. You ask why the CEO–did he deny the claims? Maybe not, but didn’t he profit the most on the denials? He’s a billionaire off those denials. Doesn’t the buck stop with the CEO? The employees just follow company policy so that they keep their jobs. Who sets the policy if not the CEO?
AI: “United Healthcare’s claim denial rates vary significantly by plan type and reporting year. For ACA marketplace plans, UHC’s denial rate dropped from 33% in 2023 down to 20% in 2024, aligning closer to the national average of 19.1%. However, for Medicare Advantage prior authorizations, UHC denies roughly 12.8% of requests, which remains elevated, and post-acute or long-term care facility denials have reached upwards of 66% to 71%.
“Denial Rates by Category: (1) ACA Marketplace: 20% (improved from 33%) (2) Medicare Advantage Prior Authorization: ~12.8% (above the ~9.2% industry average). (3) Inpatient Rehabilitation Facilities: 66%. (4) Long-Term Care Hospitals: 71%
“Context and Appeals. Appeals Success: Data shows a high reversal rate (often over 30% to 44%) for initial denials that are formally appealed, though fewer than 1% of patients typically file an appeal.
“Company Stance: UnitedHealthcare states that its general claim approval rate for eligible, complete, and timely submissions is roughly 98%.”
(AI): “Luigi Mangione targeted UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson as a “symbolic takedown” of what he viewed as a greedy and corrupt American healthcare industry.
“Company Size and Influence: Mangione focused on UnitedHealthcare specifically because it is one of the largest corporations in the United States. He believed attacking its leader would draw maximum public attention to corporate greed.
“Anti-Corporatist Ideology: In a notebook recovered by police, Mangione railed against the “deadly, greed-fueled health insurance cartel.” He claimed executives like Thompson were “parasites [who] had it coming” and aimed his attack precisely at an executive rather than using random violence.
“Ease of Access and Actionable Info: Mangione researched the company online and discovered UnitedHealthcare was hosting an investor conference in Manhattan. Posing as a wealthy investor from a multibillion-dollar firm, he emailed the company’s leadership. They replied within an hour with the meeting details—a rapid response that Mangione noted was a stark, frustrating contrast to how insurance companies treat actual patients.”
P.S. It’s interesting you feel compelled to lecture us about murdering a billionaire CEO. How about the thousands of babies killed daily in abortion–who knows anything about them? What evil did the babies commit? What about the children in Palestine–20,000 murdered over the past three years? Trump says his own morality is his law. The Trump administration just sanctioned more members of the ICC because the court dares to issue warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant’s arrest for genocide of Palestinians. People here say the ballot box is no longer a method of change in this country. That both parties have the same agenda. You yourself have replied to me that “they” are trying to destroy the middle class. Well, WHO is trying to destroy them? How do you suggest people fight back? Israel says that they won’t withdraw from Gaza until Hamas is disarmed. But it is the Israeli settlers and the IDF who are armed on the West Bank and they are laying siege to Palestinians’ homes, have cut off their electricity and water, and the IDF won’t arrest these people but is now blockading the Palestinians from leaving their homes also. Trump just grabbed all the oil and gold revenue of Venezuela. US has been doing that in Iraq since 2003. Trump says he is going to declare the Straits of Hormuz his as well as Greenland and Canada. Mangione believed his life was already ruined and that he had nothing left to lose. Most people here are not in that boat. But it is more and more obvious to me and I think to other people here that violence is the only thing that will stop those you say are destroying the middle class.
PPS I once drove someone to a county hospital to see their heart doctor and the dept had a mimeographed letter to all their patients at the check in desk advising them not to enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan if they needed medical care.
>Here is the problem with murder. You better know damn well who you are killing and why. There are no do overs.
Which is why I am opossed to capital punishment.
Admittedly, there are some scumbags for whom I would stand in line for a chance to throw the switch.
But humans are fallible, and there are documented cases of th execution of innocent human beings. I do not believe it to be moral or ethical to contribute to the “portfolio” of an agressive DA, when you can never be certain you will never excute an inocent man or woman.
JMO.
>We all know cell phones collect data on us, but yet people refuse to leave home without them
Due respect, RG, but what happens if your car breaks down?
Coin operated pay phones no longer exist.
How are you going to call a tow unless you are packing a cell phone?
Hi Adi,
And I happen to be in the middle of nowhere? No gas stations? No repair shops? No houses? No other car will pass me for hours?
I grew up in the country. We didn’t have pay phones. We had neighbors. I will probably do the same thing that I did when the small work van that I was driving to Winchester decided to leave my younger sister and I on the two lane highway outside of Paris, Virginia, circa 1998. I got the truck safely off the road and walked up to the closest farm on Route 17. Two older gentlemen came out and helped us get her running. I tried handing them money for their efforts. They refused. I remember the oldest man (likely the owner of the farm) told me, “We don’t want your money, sweetheart. Just buy a steak every chance you get. It is what keeps us in business.” I buy a steak every chance I get. 🙂
I am more fearful of leaving home without Betsy then a surveillance tracker.
> I got the truck safely off the road and walked up to the closest farm
Rural VA? Rural CT? Rural MA?
Sure, in good weather.
A blizzard in New England?
Not so good.
The Mojave, any time of year?
Death awaits you.
I switch the power off on my iPhone 3 before stuffing it in a Faraday pouch.
Are you playing the safety card, Adi?
Now, I am in a blizzard when the thing clunks out on me. 😉
I promise not to ever drive through the Mojave Desert.
Ah, but that drive on US 50 through NV may be quiet, but that’s the IDEA.
My youngest brother lives in Pahrump.
‘Nuff said. 🙂
>I promise not to ever drive through the Mojave Desert.
Good for you, RG. 🙂
The desert kills people. Nothing much to see there anyway, other than rattlesnakes, rocks, and SoCal rockheads on their way home from visiting thier money in Lost Wages, NV.
Au Contraire, Amigo.
Lived in the desert most of my life and still finding new and awe inspiring shit. Recently discovered the mud pots between Mecca and the Salt-on sea. Imo, they are worth the detour around Palm Springs. Also recently drove to Rocky point. The desert out there is not to be trifled with. Break down, without a phone in Bumfuck Mexico and Its gonna be a bad day at black rock. But, where that desert meets the sea of Cortez is positively surreal.
100000 square miles where everything sticks ya, stings ya or stabs ya. And yet it’s still strangely beautiful.
You must surely be stretching the truth here. The iPhone 7 is the oldest one that can in theory still work since the cell companies have switched off G3 networks so that connecting requires G4/VoLTE. In practice most carriers will only support iPhone 8 or newer and that’s only if can get them to send you a physical SIM, which the 7, 8 and iPhone X require as they don’t support eSIM. It killed me since I loved my iPhone 5S and even working for Verizon (although on the network side, I was a provisioning engineer but have moved on) I couldn’t get a work around. The radios no longer exist in the system to handle 1/2/3G handset modems.
Sorry, my mistake.
It is an iPhone 13, model number MLML3LL/A, for which I paid $300 earlier this year.
Currently runs iOS 26.6
What is really pathetic, RG, is that in these parts, you have to show your driver’s license to be scanned just to buy Nyquil. That, due in part, because meth heads use one of the ingredients in Nyquil to make their drugs. So, everyone gets to be punished for it. Between that, and having to ask for the cans of air (for dusting computer keyboards) located behind where the checker is, I would say this world (and country) have lost their minds. While telling the rest of us we are the insane ones for not loving such “saaaafety” measures.
So, about a month ago the router I had for ten years stopped working. I called my internet company and they did some remote jiggering and it worked again. However, the signal started to diminish and my devices were constantly showing only one or two bars of reception. I call again and they tell me to move the router away from any obstructions. It was in the same place for ten years with no problem. I move it and no better. Then they say they need to send me a new modem. The new router is cylindrical and gives off strange light and heat signatures, noticeable particularly at night. It says WiFi-6 on it. Works as good as the old one used to but not better. This is how it goes down, I guess. They just make your old stuff stop working and “upgrade” you.
Hi Funk,
Would your internet provider allow you to buy your own router and modem?
Based on my reading in regards to the Comcast tracking, the home would have to have an Xfinity Gateway XB7 router or better with WiFi motion on it.
People really need to be more aware of their technology. If you don’t understand how it works you may wish to avoid it. At this point the only way to avoid deep data harvesting on your Internet connection is to run your own completely self controlled firewall, router and access points. It’s even better if you can buy your own modem but it will always be open to the ISP changing the firmware, that is unavoidable. If you must use the carrier-supplied modem have them put it bridge mode (where it’s transparent, just a data link) if can get them to do it. Cable and fiber modems all can do it technically, the question is if the switch is user exposed and can be done easily.
Worst case have the installer put it in pass-through so it’s doing one NAT. Pass-through is less ideal because it’s doing routing, technically having only one client, which is now your 100% personally controlled firewall behind it. The problem here is allowing the ISP NAT in the modem reduces the effectiveness of encryption and obfuscation techniques.
Under -NO- circumstances should your device be connecting to a router that you have less than 100% control over the firmware and configuration. It’s best if you run a commercial grade option or at least open or trusted source of some sort such as OpenWRT, Tomato, ClearOS, OPNsense, pfSense, Sophos.
I appreciate the detailed information, Pat. Thank you.
I’ve been with Centurylink (now called Brightspeed) forever because I need the landline as I don’t carry any cell phone. I don’t know if I could buy my own router. I’m not really looking to get into that but maybe in the future. Guys like Pat here know way more about this stuff than me. For me, working internet is like a working toilet. I gotta have it, now.
Funk, your comment reminds me of the modern-day appliances. Way back when, we had washers and dryers that cleaned our (cloth) diapers, and they lasted forever. That ugly, yuck-coloured yellow refrigerator lasted (and still) far longer than what is being produced today. I had a dryer that I bought from a junk yard. Ninety year old guy related that his daughter had tried it out. The thing squawked like hell at times, but it lasted just about 30 years before giving up the ghost. I have a newer one, now, and went as “dumb” as I could. I do not need the damned thing giving me the weather report, just dry my clothes already. Sadly, even this modern-day-version of a dumb appliance will not last nearly as long as my old one. Funny how that works: We have more technology, more advancements, and get crappier and more unreliable products in return.
As regards Flock, catching ‘scofflawing’ is not the point. Rather, recording every license plate that passes every monitored location is the point. A nearby town has 14 Flock cameras — six at the city limits; eight at major intersections within the town. These record the movements of both local residents, and travelers passing through.
In response to its rising unpopularity, last week Flock cut back its default data retention period to 7 days from 30 days. But there’s a catch … and an incentive:
‘Existing customers will keep their current, democratically approved retention periods. Customers who adopt the 7-day recommendation will receive Evidence Mode at no cost. Every community will continue to choose the retention period that fits its public saaaafety strategy.’
https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/flock-guardrails-address-lpr-privacy-concerns-and-police-transparency
‘Democratically approved’ retention periods — yeah, right! I don’t get to vote on the retention period in the nearby town, because I don’t live there. And as far as I know, the cops decided it, not the town council.
In the big picture of excessive, illegal surveillance, Flock is a bit player. Does anyone remember Ed Snowden? After 9/11, America’s spook agencies implemented mass warrantless surveillance of all electronic communications. They’re still doing it today. And there’s not a peep of protest from ‘democratically elected’ Congress Clowns.
Imagine the secret talks the NSA (National Security Agency) is having now with AI vendors, to create ‘private label’ AI engines to churn through its vast mass of illegally collected communications and assign a threat label to each and every one of us.
Exactly Jim,
All the AI “data centers” popping up everywhere are a crucial part of the control grid for tracking every single one of us. Do people really think that the 3 letter security agencies follow the “law”, never mind the Constitution? Clowngress should have defunded the CIA when they found out that they were being spyed on by that very agency during the Church committee hearings. The Epstein class probably has dirt on everyone that could derail their agenda.
AI centers may be full of servers and other computer equipment, but the long-term is to corral HUMANS into these data centers after the computer equipment is cleared out. It doesn’t take much to erect a fence around these large buildings which have all of the amenities to support human life.
I hope I am dead wrong, but here is a possible scenario:
The government starts to employ false flags to limit and shut off utilities (electricity, natural gas) to areas around data centers, eventually expanding to major population centers, blaming the interruptions on “terrorists”, making living on one’s own difficult, if not impossible. These “data centers” will offer food and shelter to those displaced. The rest of us are on our own.
I choose to be on my own. I have a backyard full of bunny rabbits…I will learn to make rabbit stew, if necessary. Living off the land is difficult, but it is 1000x better than being sheepled into a concrete building where your every movement is assessed. The Amish have already provided us a rough draft that it can be done.
“It’s fer yer own goooood.”, Captain.
“I wish you’d stop bein’ so good to me, Cap’n.”, Lucas Jackson.
Eric, you talk about “conditioning” to get us to accept these tyrannies. It pervades every aspect of our lives. You may recall a few years ago when it was popular for tatted and roided cops telling people they were the “Sheep Dogs” here to protect us.
As you say, even the name implies we’re nothing but livestock.
CS Lewis said it best when he wrote:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”