Some may remember Muhammad Ali – the great boxer – who once explained why he had no interest in being sent to Vietnam. “I ain’t got no quarrel with them Viet Cong,” he said. He is also said to have said “No Viet Cong ever called me nigger.” There is some dispute as to whether he actually said the latter, but even if he didn’t the point is what matters.
His point being that he didn’t want to go to Vietnam – to kill or be killed – because why would he? It was not his fight. It was not America’s fight. Draft-age young men like Ali (at the time) were being told how important it was that they put their lives on the line to end the lives of other young men (as well as women and children and old men) in a distant country that so far as they could see had not attacked this country. It did not make much sense to them.
Just as it does not make much sense today.
What have the Iranians done to America? Americans are told they are planning to do awful things but is there any reason to believe this? Americans have been told for something like the past 35 years – by “Bibi” Netanyahu – that the Iranians are furtively developing nukes they never seem to develop and that if they ever do develop them, they are certain to use them against the United States. In fact, what “Bibi” dreads is the prospect of Iran being able to defend itself against the Rothschild colony he is the leader of.
Israel is a Biblical term referring to an ancient Semitic/Arabic people. The people who lived in the area that is today occupied by the state of Israel. This distinction is important. “Bibi” hails from Eastern Europe and is as “semitic” as Xi Xiping. Yet Xi does not pretend to have a land claim to the area now occupied by the state of Israel. The evil genius of the conflation of Israel in the Biblical sense with the (mostly secular and often atheistic) Zionists of the “Bibi” sort was just that – genius – because it enabled these Zionists to equate themselves with the people of the Bible and to deride anyone who asks questions as being motivated by hatred for the Jewish people.
In other words, the Jews are also being played by the same people who are playing the goyim.
Anyhow, the question that must be asked until it is answered is why the Hell is America at war with Iran? More finely, why the Hell has America been dragged into another war at the behest of that Rothschild colony that styles itself “Israel”? Why is American blood and treasure being spent to maim and kill Iranians who’ve done nothing to America?
Because “Bibi” says Americans must.
Who is this “Bibi” character? He is a figure much like “Uncle Joe” Stalin – the mass-murdering leader of the Soviet Union, whom FDR practically worshipped and for that reason put the entirety of the United States and all its resources at his disposal. Stalin could do anything to Americans and FDR still worshipped him. For example, when American pilots had to ditch their aircraft over Soviet territory after bomb runs over Japan, because they’d run out fuel, they were imprisoned in harsh conditions by the Soviet dictator. Not a peep from the communist-cucked cripple in the White House. When the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish officers, priests and others by Soviet NKVD troops was uncovered, FDR did all he could to suppress the truth, because it might have soured the American people on “Uncle Joe.”
“Bibi” is presented similarly.
He is worshipped similarly. He is presented as Our Greatest Ally, almost Christ-like. It does not matter that the man is literally wanted for war crimes. He is received with obsequious honors by our era’s equivalent of FDR, who is as cucked by Zionism as FDR was by communism.
Why? In part because Trump is under pressure not to expose “Bibi.” This is the beating heart of the Epstein Business. Not the sex stuff. The systemic blackmail using sex stuff. The Israeli connection to that stuff.
America was sucked down to the marrow by “Uncle Joe” – just as America is being sucked down to the marrow, again, by “Bibi.”
Up to now, many Americans have been afraid to say so, out of fear of being accused of hating Jewish people. But the power of that smear is rapidly waning because it is very difficult to assume the role of victim when it is obvious to all but the most terminally addled by Zionism that the “victim” is in fact the victimizer. It is also not 1942 – and it is more difficult to maintain the image of “Uncle Joe” – as opposed to the reality of “Bibi.”
If this war goes on for much longer, “Bibi” may come to regret having started it.
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Im just going to drop this oldie right here-
https://youtu.be/eqMk-AuTDZE?si=xZrGV1ECcx5x3SC1
Black Superman….is that like a polish genius? A brave Frenchman? A cool-termpered Puerto Rican? 😀
Arthur, sometimes a cigar is not a penis symbol.
Ha. Smooth reply, Ernie. Classy and well said.
LOL- I have to agree! (But damn, doesn’t anyone have a sense of humor anymore? Leave it to me, I found Puritans with a rod up their butts! 😀 )
I do not know how anyone survives this life without a sense of humor, Arthur. Your comment reminded me of the parking lot scene in “My Blue Heaven”. Talk about needing a sense of humor (ha ha). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamGv80D7gg
Haha! Thanks, Shadow!
Ali was like no other in the way he stood up for his convictions and beliefs…. Unlike most of today’s powerful and “influential” class, who always seem to sell out at some point.
I wonder however, how many of today’s youth who are in / considering joining the military will remember him, and act on his example…. hoping there are more like him out there, as I think thats the only way this disaster can be stopped (or reduced at least)….
Maybe there is hope – I hear a lot of those toilets that stopped working on the aircraft carrier were the result of kids not wanting to go fight for the Rothschild colony, shoving socks and t-shirts down the drain to block the plumbing…. lets see, I wish those guys the best of luck, if true they are the real heroes the world needs today…..
https://rumble.com/v76l2v6-liberty-conspiracy-live-3-3-26-special-report-iran-suffers-us-warcrimes-gue.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_f
the reason for the war:
israel is cleansing the M.E. of all arab states, create a jewish anal utopia to rule the world
since Israel owns trump and clowngress they are able to manipulate the orange baby rapist to do their bidding, and our elected reps allow this, also compromised
trumpenstein is the goy stooge on the throne, he is expendable
even if trump is removed, the next shabbos goy stooge, aka Vance will be installed and continue the Zio policies of death and destruction
Video footage of Iran missile wave terminating Bahrain base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9afZBbDz9U
“Naval Support Activity Bahrain is a United States Navy base located in Bahrain, serving as the home for U.S. Naval Forces Central Command and the United States Fifth Fleet. It provides logistical support and facilities for U.S. and coalition forces in the region.”
Dubai expat destination has collapsed, hotels hosting US troops hit by Shahed drones, rich pricks paying $250,000 a pop to flee out of war zone.
High-Cost Evacuations
The war has stranded hundreds of thousands across the Gulf, leading to a surge in specialized evacuation services for the wealthy.
$230,000–$350,000 Flights: Charter flights from hubs like Riyadh to Europe are costing between $232,000 (€200,000) and $350,000 as major airports in Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Doha remain closed.
Hi Jack,
I am skeptical of many of these videos as I have determined with certainty that some are AI/false. I think it very hard to find out exactly what’s happening over there. YouTube is heavily managed.
A recent Jimmy Dore video mentioned that Israel hit Saudi Arabia as a false flag operation. And just like with the Ukraine war, our losses are worse than are reported.
https://youtu.be/Ufva8Gxyjmw?si=d_wN8KVghmSprExs
I agree, Eric. Who knows what we are seeing anymore? The alternative media and Youtube et al have been so overrun with outright false stuff; made-up stuff; speculations; AI crap; controlled opposition, etc. that one can no longer trust anything they see or hear. The idea is to discredit and disgust, so that people go back to trusting the official narrative and MSM by default, because the alt is becoming a joke.
My only guide these days, is that I am aware of the overall goals of the NWO, and the tricks and lies of government. But I have given up on perusing the alt media anymore; or any other media. Even Lewrockwell.com has turned into garbage.
Any time I hear of anything our or any other government says; or what the MSM says, I just think “That’s DEFINITELY not the truth”. As to the real story, I can only imagine based on the past, and my knowledge of the long-term goals of the players…and that’s as good or better a guess than anything I’d hear from anyone else.
Reminds me of a good friend of mine, years ago, who heard a mutaul [now ex] friend of ours prattling on about an incident, and how he handled it. And when the mutual friend finally ended his exaggerated and lie-filled story, my good friend just calmly said “No you didn’t” and moved on. That’s what I think every time I hear “news” or anything from the government [and now alt media too], when they say this happened or that happened…and this or that was the reason; and this guy is the hero or villain, or we did this or that- I just hear my friend’s voice in my head, saying “no you didn’t”.
Why would you say, “Even Lewrockwell.com has turned into garbage.”?
Another fella here used to bash them, too.
Reminds me of bit from, ‘The Daily Bell’, “Don’t make the perfect, be the enemy of the good”.
Tssuuhhhhh…. I’m not even going to try……
Is that stupid, Ben Shapiro, in the photo with Dumkoff? Wow.
Candice Owens has been laying down The Facts about, ‘The Bride of Charlie Kirk’. Seems like, there’s an Epstein connection there. Time, will tell. What a tangled web.
Anyway, thanks for posting the Muhammad Ali video, it was,… inspiring to see it again.
I only hope some of the young’uns see it, too. And, gain from it.
I thought about posting a sign on my (bankster owned) property alongside the highway which read, “You are owned. By Israel. Take your children out of goobermint schools and home school them.”
…But, then I thought of my pleas to others not to get, ‘The Shot’. And, don’t let them give, ‘The Shot’ to your children.
The, ‘Bystanders’. …Why do they close their minds?
I saw a video recently about that, wish I’d saved it to post here.
…You’re on your own.
I guess that, in 1000 years, in won’t really matter. …Unless, there’s more to life, than the here & now? YMMV?
https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/
Middle east problems due to the inability of UK to hold their post WWI possessions at the end of WWII. So they needed the US to do it for them.
Part of this was overthrowing the Iranian government for british petroleum.
WWII and the jewish migration at the heart of the last 70 years of conflict was due to the terrible peace of WWI. this lead to Iraq & Afghanistan wars, plus the many minor engagements in our effort to keep control of the ME.
WWI ended with german defeat instead of stalemate due to US involvement in WWI.
US entered WWI because Wilson was an anglophile and saw an opportunity to impress influence on the world.
This desire was born out of success of the spanish american war, giving us a real empire.
the Spanish American war was only possible due to the consolidation of power in the federal government after the war of northern aggression.
If you follow this chain of events, the northern victory set the stage for everything after it. Had the south won or been let go, the power balance would have favored the states and none of the proceeding involvement would have been possible.
RE: “If you follow this chain of events,”
It all seems like B.S.. Everything, is about Power and Control by the Power Elite over the masses.
Psft! “US entered WWI because Wilson was an anglophile and saw an opportunity to impress influence on the world.”
Again, it was all about, Power and Control.
“… The subject matter of “Establishment Studies” or “Power Elite Analysis” is understanding this struggle for power in its diverse open and covert forms between the rulers and the ruled, between the elite and the non-elite, between “the ins” and “the outs.”
The primary object of every ruling elite is to maintain its own power and privilege. The rule of the elite is based on force or fraud. This force may be hidden or threatened, and the fraud sustained by a political formula, usually expressed as a generally accepted state religion, ideology, or series of myths. But it is the physical force of the gun that lay behind it all. And it is at your mind that every government gun is ultimately aimed.”…
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-necessity-of-power-elite-analysis-in-understanding-our-world/
Agree, Dan.
“WWI ended with german defeat instead of stalemate due to US involvement in WWI.”
And that’s really why Ukraine is in the position it is. For some reason, it trusted the US and UK to ride to their aid. If WWI had been allowed to teach everyone the lesson of “sometimes the best you can do is quit while you are behind, before it gets worse” we likely wouldn’t have all the dead Russians and Ukrainians now.
“Rothschild colony he is the leader of”
Mad respect Eric. This MOST important detail is what is missing in 99.9% of ALL reporting!
In fact, I’m pretty sure this WHOLE war is another orchestrated set-up.
Claim crazies started WWIII then carpet nuke the populations. Hope I’m wrong.
They want us to blame these puppet actors instead of the banking family cartel who paid for it -Genius I suppose..
Thanks, AMC guy – I hope (I pray) more people catch on and say it, too. It’s the only way I see to end this tragedy before it becomes an even greater one.
Apropos of nothing, has anyone heard from Eightsouthman? It’s been ages since I’ve seen him post here. Hope he’s ok.
Last I read, it seemed he’d be in jail rotting, for shootin’ at a crop duster spraying poison right directly atop his property & his home.
Crop dusters don’t really have limits. You’d know that, if you lived in the country in Monsanto/Bayer Land. Most people have no clue.
No disrespect to yourself intended.
I just heard some blowhard Republican doing mental gymnastics to say this isn’t a war. Ask the soldiers killed the other day if it’s a war…
Another Muhammad Ali quip to be relevant today- Picture the Orange Hitler spewing Ali’s “I am still the greatest of all time!”….
For Trump and many boomers, it’s always 1980 and the U.S. embassy hostage crisis in Iran, which was probably another CIA/Mossad led coup to get the Shah out – who himself assumed full control after an earlier CIA coup in 1953 – then replaced with an Islamic regime. Ironically, the U.S. wants to bring back the Shah’s son or someone like him who first and foremost will pledge allegiance to Israel.
‘ISRAEL hacked nearly every traffic camera in Tehran for years – allowing Mossad to stalk the Ayatollah and strike with deadly precision. Spies watched Ali Khamenei and his inner circle so closely that one official boasted, “We knew Tehran like we know Jerusalem.”
‘Agents tracked the movements of Khamenei’s bodyguards – logging their home addresses, shifts, routes and even where they parked their personal cars. One strategically placed camera facing the Supreme Leader’s compound proved gold dust as it showed exactly where guards left their vehicles when reporting for duty.
‘When the moment came on Saturday morning, Israel didn’t just rely on cameras. Around a dozen mobile phone towers near Pasteur Street were disrupted, making phones appear busy and blocking last-ditch warnings to Khamenei’s security detail.’
https://www.the-sun.com/news/16027048/israel-hacked-iran-traffic-cams-ayatollah-khamenei/
Do you imagine that Israel’s spies are not monitoring US leaders the same way? Thanks to the wartime ‘alliance’ and their top-level mole Trumpstein (one of thousands), Israel has a direct tap into US intelligence, Flock cameras, Ring cameras, you name it. It will decapitate America at a time and place of its choosing.
In 1963, President Kennedy was working urgently to derail Israel’s fledgling nuclear program and to register AIPAC’s predecessor as a foreign lobby under the Foreign Agent Registration Act of 1938. So ask yourself …
Who killed JFK?
And then ask yourself, why are the key JFK assassination files not released, over 62 years later?
‘Because they implicate Israel’ is one obvious Occam’s Razor explanation. In that case, they will NEVER be released, unless another Ed Snowden finally intervenes to put a stop to this macabre shitshow.
Remember, the U.S. STILL does not acknowledge Israel’s nukes, forty years after they were revealed to the world in the popular press.
Israel and nukes: steer clear, or prepare to meet your maker.
“‘Because they implicate Israel’ is one obvious Occam’s Razor explanation. In that case, they will NEVER be released, unless another Ed Snowden finally intervenes to put a stop to this macabre shitshow.”
Would they be released if they implicated CIA? Someone thought for sure LHW was sufficient to be able to blame USSR, or at least commies in general, but made sure to get rid of him anyway. Which had the effect of deflecting most likely blame to organized crime.
Zio-Steve always has to jump in to run interference when somebody makes a claim about Israel.
Just an honest question. Would they come out and say, “Yeah, HW Bush was overseeing the operation. That’s why he flew into Dallas” or would they leave it and call anyone who hypothesizes about it a “conspiracy theorist”?
Interesting information. I am so glad I don’t have a Ring doorbell/camera or any SMART devices and that there is a paucity of FLOCK cameras (I checked the DeFlock site) in my zip code, unlike where I used to live in NoVA.
I actually have a cousin (who I have seen exactly 4 times in the last 30 years) who is high up in the pecking order at Oracle, and my midwit “conservative” relatives’ main lament about him is that he is too “liberal” not that he works for dystopian surveillance company and an evil boss.
Sometimes I feel alone among the zombies.
That’s much of what’s wrong these days, I suspect, “I actually have a cousin (who I have seen exactly 4 times in the last 30 years)”
Mine, I’ve seen less. Like, zero.
Yah, “alone among the zombies”. …That’s all part of The Plan.
Then there’s the JFK wannabe Bill Clinton. Anyone else think the chubby seductress Monica Lewinsky was actually a mossad honeypot?
She was definitely a Mossad honeypot. Remember back to all the pearl clutching about old Billy Boy abusing his position to seduce the poor doe-eyed intern, and “what will tell the CHILDREN about what their President has done?”.
Seriously, it was all a theater including the outrange.
I think she was as well, MQ –
I remember the whole mess as if it happened yesterday. I never understood the rictus of outrage. Consenting adults, etc. A matter for Bill and Hillary to deal with in private. Mizz Lewinsky never even alleged she was coerced let alone forced; she wanted to do what she did.
It was lying under oath. Which, as a lawyer should have resulted in his disbarment. Easy fix for the ROL, one and done, no muss, no fuss. We all know however that lawyers and tiny hats being fellow travelers like to stick together and rub it in we Normals faces. That episode was when I really started to see the rule of law as merely a fantasy of our imaginations. And just-us was the new standard for America, as opposed to justice.
Morning, Norman!
Yes, I remember. But lying about a personal matter that – while not exactly appetizing – was a thing that most people saw as his private affair (literally). That’s why the lying stuff never caught much with most people, who saw it as a pretextual excuse to go after Bubba. Again, I am not condoning Bubba. I am just pointing out that he was covering up an affair and the general view was it was his business, not ours.
Morning Eric,
I only pointed it out as perjury and such being one of those things that are selectively applied. Those kind of small things being the difference between justice, and just-us.
I agree with you about the nature of the personal business being personal. Although it was kind of illuminating to Bubbas inner makeup. That he, being leader of the free world, could do no better than a chubby little droll baby was kind of a disappointment. Whats the point of being King if thats the best one can do?
Roger that, Norman!
I didn’t care about it all that much, either, Eric. I was kind of hoping no one would ever treat the presidency with respect ever again. Including foreigners. With the cold war over, undeserved respect should have been tossed in the trash. Especially since a president that merits respect is a very rare event over the last century or so.
Eisenhower, JFK, and I’m drawing a blank.
I still like silent Cal Coolidge.
I heard that former CIA whistleblower today mention how Mossad tried to blackmail Clinton into releasing Pollard back then. They had known about Lewinsky before the press found out. He claims the CIA at the time failed to go along with it though.
The Muhammad Ali reference is 100% apropos. I never thought I’d find myself agreeing with him, but here I am.
I used to be a staunch, pro-Israel Republican neocon for a few reasons. First, I grew up during the Cold War and the communists really WERE spreading around the globe. I remember the USSR making inroads into Egypt, Syria, South Yemen, and invading Afghanistan while the U.S. backed Israel.
Second, a lot of the Arab leaders like Yasser Arafat and Qaddafi were weirdos and lunatics straight out of a comic book, while the Israelis seemed more intelligent, measured and sane. I remember the nutjobs in Tehran in 1979, too.
But the Berlin Wall fell almost 40 years ago. The USSR has been gone since 1991. In the meantime, who is my enemy? He is not in Moscow or Damascus or Baghdad or Tehran. He is in Washington and San Francisco and New York.
I’m not black, so I can’t say “No Iranian ever called me nigger.” But I CAN say that no Iranian ever banned my guns and made me a felon. No Iranian ever denied me a job because I am white. No Iranian ever fired me from a job for speaking my mind. No Iranian ever forced me to wear a covid mask or get the shot. No Iranian ever flooded my country with illegal aliens. No Iranian ever paraded down Main Street in bondage leather weaving a rainbow-colored dildo. No Iranian ever held a Drag Queen Story Hour for three year olds at my local library. No Iranian ever tracked my cell phone and stored the information in the NSA data center. No Iranian ever put up Flock cameras and put ALPERS on the cop cars to track my movements. No Iranian ever forced me to go through a naked body scanner at an airport. No Iranian ever printed 50% more dollars and devalued my savings by half.
I could go on, but you get the idea. I am alienated from my own country. It does not represent me. It does not care about me, it cares more about Israel. My government treats me as if I were a “terrorist” and the cops wear the exact same combat gear the Army uses for shooting ragheads in the Middle East. And the same gear the IDF wears when it is shooting Palestinians.
The idea that “we” are war with Iran is the same vicarious stupidity you hear when the sportsball retards say “WE made the playoffs” or “WE won the Super Bowl.”
No, it’s not “we” and it’s not “me.” It’s “them,” and they are aliens and strangers to me. Israel and ZOG are not on my team, and Iran is not my opponent.
Good lord this is so spot on! May I use your points in my interactions with the Red Hats?
Comment of the year.
“I grew up during the Cold War and the communists really WERE spreading around the globe. I remember the USSR making inroads into Egypt, Syria, South Yemen, and invading Afghanistan while the U.S. backed Israel”.
No you bought a whole lot of MIC and Zionist propaganda. The USSR was a paper tiger who could not actually take over any country larger than Czechoslovakia and invaded Afghanistan because of CIA-trained fanatics were at their doorstep. Egypt, Syria, South Yemen governments were branded as such by ISRAEL and thus the US was ordered to oppose them thus turned to the USSR for support so ZOG propagandize the US hoi polloi that they were a bunch of “commies” even though they were Arab Nationalists who did not want to be under the Anglo-Zionist thumb. Oh, and the headquarters of “world communism” was not Moscow or Beijing, but Tel Aviv and the City of London. That does not mean the USSR was in any way “good”, but it was not the monster that wanted to devour the world that your pundits, politicians and pastors told you.
You are starting to open your eyes, but until you begin to dig into the pro-Israel Republican neocon you were fed you will never quite get it.
As a kid in the ‘60s I lived all the “Red Menace” spin. I remember an “infomercial” one TV night explaining with a scary map, why we’re fighting the Commie spread in SE Asia. Pretty sure John Wayne was the host, pointing to the map as it turned red all the way down through Vietnam.
You’d think after that pack of lies never caused “disruption of the shipping lanes” but ended up with over 50k US soldiers dead we’d have learned. NOPE.
Reminds me of a bit Lionel Nation described today about a scene from, ‘Battle Star Galactica’
‘EPISODE FIVE: Is There No End to the Fraud Uncovered?’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywJKRcVpTCU
It went along the lines of: when the military and the police are one, The People become the enemy.
What’s more:
No Iranian ever told me I must give up living in a single family suburban house, driving an SUV, and eating beef to “save the planet.”
No Iranian ever told me that I will own nothing and be happy about it.
No Iranian ever told me that I must eat ze bugs.
Why TF does anyone take these bozos seriously?
Every time they say “jump,” the response is “how high?” How about “F—- off” instead?
That’s the only language any of them will listen to, and even then only if they hear it several million times. Irish democracy. Woodchipper. Set them adrift on an ice floe. I don’t care, at this point, but it isn’t funny anymore and enough is enough.
What if they threw a war and no one came?
We’re just *almost* to the point of finding out. Tantalizingly close. But for some reason we can’t quite get ourselves over that particular hump.
They can’t say that to their bosses
It’s a skill. Takes practice. A lot of it comes with age, which is why they love to enlist 17-20 year olds.
I absolutely agree with Mohammed Ali’s statement, I remember when he said that back in the 60’s and it made perfect sense. I managed to not get enslaved – aka “drafted” – by sheer luck but noticed how our ruling class of chickenhawk warmongers were able to avoid it, especially Dick Cheney; can’t wait till Trumpenstein joins him in hell.
The rationale our overlords always trotted out for the Vietnam war was “if we don’t stop the Commies there we’ll have to fight them on the beaches of California. How ironic that the Commies have taken over California, and continue for the rest of the US, without firing a shot.
Dow is down over 1,000 points as I type this, even my ExxonMobil stock is down. Wish I had acted on Pam Blondi calling the top at 50,000 and lightened up my portfolio.
Ha. “Wish I had acted on Pam Blondi calling the top at 50,000 and lightened up my portfolio.”
THAT, has got to hurt.
Contrary to popular belief, the most vocal Zionists aren’t Jewish people, but fundamentalist Christians who believe in the doctrine of premillennial dispensationalism—an idea literally cooked up by someone who fell off a horse and had a coma dream.
In their mind, there needs to be a yooooge war in the Middle East and a lot of people have to die in order for Jesus to return and usher in the Kingdom of Heaven.
But what happens if there is a yooooge war and a lot of people die, and Jesus doesn’t come?
Excellent point Bryce,
When the apostles asked Jesus when he would return he replied that He didn’t know – “The Father has not uet revealed that to me.” So Jesus Himself doesn’t know but a bunch of useful idiots think they do. Amen.
I don’t know about anyone else, but when it comes to the Second Coming I can wait. Gotta finish racking up things to atone for, then do the atoning, it’s honestly a lot of work and I have enough deadlines to deal with as it is.
The most effective Zionists were the Brits who took over the management of the region after the fall of the Ottomans after WWI. They established a portion of it to be a jewish homeland so they could get rid of jews in Britain. In the new kinder, gentler world of the time, massacre wasn’t thought to be the answer a civilized people should choose.
But note most of the Biblical sites were NOT within the jewish partition. They didn’t get most of those until 1948, until several members from the Arab League invaded the jewish partition, seeking to destroy it completely. Offhand, Egypt, Iraq, Sytia, Lebanon and Jordan (Transjordan at the time) but there were probably others — it’s been 40 years since I took World History. That is, most of Israel was acquired the old fashioned way, by conquest. They even gave back parts like the entire Sinai to Egypt in exchange for a peace treaty. Those familiar with the Bible might remember a significant event involving “Sinai”?
If this were some Chosen Land of Milk and Honey thing, why give back land where one of their most important figures was said to have looked upon God?
Steve, What you say happened in 1948 didn’t happen until 1967. That’s when Israel grabbed Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem. No-one invaded Israel in 1967: Israel did a pre-emptive attack.
By your logic that means Israel has now forfeited it’s entire country.
I have said this to you in another comment and I believe most Americans would agree with it. US supports a two state solution. To continue to receive defensive protection from the US, Israel must withdraw into its 1948 borders and stay there. Israel must give Arabs who live in Israel equal protection to Jews under the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War
May or may not be a good treatment of the ’48 war, but it shows your assertion to be wrong.
Incidentally, looks like I did pretty well. The only Arab state I forgot about was Yemen.
Hey look; here’s Zio-Steve’s comment from just 2 days ago:
“Steve March 1, 2026 At 3:25 pm
Wiki??? Don’t be such a moron. Try some of the source material. See what they really said, not what some left-wing ‘tard thinks.
See, that’s why I accuse y’all of taking your marching orders from CNN. Because you can be counted on to echo whatever lunacy the leftoids put out there, and will never, NEVER bother to see if any of it is correct.”
Oh, I agree. That’s why I said specifically I wasn’t going to comment on its treatment of the topic, merely its existence.
Zio-Steve is always right in his own mind.
Steve, It doesn’t look like the Palestinians attacked Israel, so why does Israel get the UN designated Palestinian state land? That’s the Nakba. Maybe the map is like that because there was heavy Arab settlement in those areas. Seems the Palestinians were invaded as much as you say Israel was by the neighboring Arab states. The Palestinians had no Army/not even a country. If the territory didn’t belong to Israel (according to the UN who divied the territory up) how can Israel invade and claim it any more than the neighboring countries?
Also, do you agree that Israel needs to withdraw from the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem (the land they took in 1967 by pre-emptive attack) or do you believe that Israel since it was attacked in 1948 has a right forever to claim the territory of any country it wants (including Palestine–the state designated for the Palestinians)?
The Palestinians fled ahead of the Arab League. Israel just basically held onto whatever territory they had when the Arab League turned tail. That’s what the whole “right of return” is about. Leaving the refugee camps (West Bank, Gaza) and taking back the land where their grandparents or great-grandparents lived.
“Also, do you agree that Israel needs to withdraw from the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem (the land they took in 1967 by pre-emptive attack)…”
Of course not, and not because Israel was the first strike. Because they won. In the same way I don’t think Russia needs to withdraw from the Donbas unless they are defeated.
The alternative is to accept a “do-over” world order.
You show yourself to be irrational on the topic and/or unprincipled. Israel has not won and cannot win. Bombs are falling on Israel and every US ME base. More Americans now support the Palestinians than the Israelis. 25 years of $10 trillion GWOT squat, Gaza genocide, and having just spent another $1 Trillion in one day–US is getting ready to walk. Then what? It may be too late even to go back to post-1948 war borders (with major restitution to displaced Palestinians). It may be S. Africa, Vietnam, Algeria.
You may well be right. I just think we are changing back to a hard power world order. Iraq and Afghanistan, hard power wins against bit players, followed by soft power losses distracted us from the reality of the emerging hard power new reality.
But it was there. No one but weak vassal states and weak leaders paid any attention to the UN’s declarations on climate or world health or human rights (while putting leading human rights offenders on the council). Those asserting their hard power, like Russia and China did not fall for it. Trump, to his credit, did not. Trump’s first term was bookended by weak leaders who did. It’s more fair to say, though, that in that respect, Obama was the Chimp’s 3rd and 4th term. Bomb some wedding party, then have the diplomats apologize for it.
The lesson is soft power is always backed by hard power. May not be rational or moral, but it’s what it means to be human.
Israel is backed by the US — when that’s gone, Israel is gone. In fact, we might be watching it go down right now. Naked terrorism usually signals the end. The Arabs have the numbers.
What you are describing are people who think that God cannot achieve His objectives without their help. It’s arrogance, conceit and hubris that is orders of magnitude greater than you can imagine.
It’s not unique to the Zionists, either. Zio-Communist though they are in spirit are just like the Enviro/Commies. They all want to be gods over other humans.
I’ll chime in on this. These zionist fake christians don’t have the 1st idea of what the bible is and is not. No concept of levantine history or the jews place in it.
They go to church, hear some stories and never understand what those stories really are.
I both pity and am disgusted by them for they are fools, but fools by choice of ignorance.
War is good for business especially for some. Those munitions are very expensive. Consider the Thaad missile system “The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system costs approximately $1.25 billion per battery and around $12.6 million per missile”. SM-3 Block IIA interceptors command $27.9 million each. Patriot PAC-3 MSE interceptors cost $3.7-4.2 million each. Developed by Lockheed Martin in collaboration with Raytheon.
That’s a lot of money.
Maybe we’ll get a dividend at year’s end.
Yeah, in the US, these systems are still manufactured individually by hand. Mass production just is not a thing. And Uncle is willing to fork over as much tax money as they ask for, so of course they keep the methods inefficient.
So far as I know, most or even all the munitions plants, many of which were humming along as recently as the end of Vietnam, are still mothballed. The one I used to drive past every day in Minneapolis, still shuttered. The missile building facilities east of me, shuttered, the base to house the workers, full civilian now. The bomb facilities to the south, shuttered.
Russia is not so stupid. They brought their facilities back on line as soon as it became obvious NATO wasn’t going to be reasonable.
Remember when the Biden regime and corporate media was running narratives that Russia launched an “unprovoked attack” on Ukraine and that Vladimir Putin wanted to “Take over Europe”? There are people I know who belieeeeeeeeeeved that narrative, but the Neocons who controlled foreign policy for the Biden regime likely wanted war with Russia and were hoping it would be the start of World World 3. The insane European leaders STILL want war with Russia.
Neocons have been running foreign policy for every single presidential administration in the U.S. going back at least 30 years, and it appears that they may have gotten their wish for yet ANOTHER WAR, but this time with Iran.
Ever since Hinckley shot Reagan. The Hinckley family are close friends with the Bush family.
“If this war goes on for much longer, “Bibi” may come to regret having started it.” – Eric
With all due respect, Eric, these sociopaths NEVER have regrets. Why? Because they have no conscience or shame. Any “failure” is due to others not providing enough blood and treasure to make their Satanic dreams come true.
Hi Mark,
IIRC, there was actually someone who expressed regret before he passed away, and that was Robert McNamara, who was Defense Secretary for Presidents John F Kennedy & Lyndon Baines Johnson.
And Louis XIV
I didn’t know that, @John B. Do you know if he said anything specific? He and Johnson were caught in their lies about USS Maddox (Gulf of Tonkin) though to the best of my knowledge the almost exact same lies about USS Liberty are still accepted as truth.
I don’t know the specifics of McNamara’s talk. I read it on Armstrong Economics or elsewhere, but IIRC McNamara expressed regret about lying about the Vietnam War, the war which led to then President Lyndon Johnson dropping out of seeking another term as president, and the chaotic Democrat National Convention in 1968.
True, his deathbed confession shows he had a guilty conscience at least. That’s rare among political leaders of all stripes.
Point taken, Mark –
That said, “Zionist” may soon become something akin to pederast – insofar as people’s immediate reaction to hearing it uttered. I would not consider that a bad thing.
“’Zionist’ may soon become something akin to pederast”
“Soon”?
I think we’re already there, brah. Paging Jeffrey Epstein…
Thanks to Epstein they are virtually synonymous already.
I would assert that part of the woke ideology was to normalize behavior that we in civilized cultures consider taboo. This was IMO another psyop that intended to embrace interactions where evil actors have power over powerless actors….IMO, the most hideous of which is having adults empowered to act against the interests of children. It does not matter that this type of act has occurred throughout human history….we are supposed to be better than that. My take on regimes like those of most U.S. presidents, all Zionist leaders and most taker regimes in history is that they will all fail because 1) they are inherently evil and 2) they tend to transition from productive economies to degenerate economies over time….the pattern repeats….
That said, what we can do as individuals is to protect ourselves and the ones we love to the best of our abilities and always oppose the actions of governments that do not contribute to the protection of individual liberty.
“to normalize behavior that we in civilized cultures consider taboo”
I also believe the government does this too. If they want to mass surveil everyone, they let it leak out slowly over time that they are doing it, reducing the acute outrage and softening public anger. This is effective. I know many people who find out about the latest form of privacy invasion and just shrug their shoulders and say “we all know they are doing it anyway”.
I have always suspected Edward Snowden was part of the plan to bring it into the light and get people accustomed to it. I may be wrong, but it feels that way to me.
Yesterday U.S. UN Ambassador Mike Walz declared that Iran’s targeting of U.S. assets in other countries across the Middle East, “unprovoked”.
It doesn’t get much sicker than that. Screwing teenage hookers is mild by comparison.
Israel and Iran have been enemies for thousands of years. Not a single country in this world is going to aide in both sides achieving peace. Also, notice that wars are so great, our politicians want to start them, and keep them going? And yet, not a one of them will offer to lay down their lives for the cause they insist the rest of us fight for (or against). No, they will just collect the monetary benefits while the rest of us go broke paying for it, and still others die for it.
Or, the lives of their children and grandchildren.
Well, biblical Israel and the ancient Persians were certainly enemies. Israel also fought wars of extermination against the Philistines. But while Persia is now Iran and somewhat historically cohesive, modern Israel is a construct at best, made by a barbarian invasion.
I used to say the same thing, but in fact the ancient Hebrews were defeated by their own iniquities and cast out of the holy land a long time ago. Meanwhile, ancient Persia has come to be ruled by a theocratic cult.
I really don’t care to support either side and I’m not sure why my country is, other than the fact that the Iranian regime openly screams that they hate us and want us dead. In the warrior’s code, an enemy who wants to fight you must be honored with your best fight. It’s as close as I can come to making sense of it all.
But I don’t know what the end game is here, in a few more days the American empire and the Israeli thing will be out of interceptors while Iran will still have tens of thousands of long, medium, and short range missiles.
Our leadership cadre are short sighted fools. Attacking another nation without sufficient resources is the height of stupidity.
It’s possible that the reason that they scream about hating the US (and the UK) is because in 1953/4 the CIA, assisted by MI6, staged a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Prime minister of Iran. Mossadegh was deposed in a coup engineered by Kermit Roosevelt Jr.
This lead to the oppression that imposed by the Shah of Iran and the Savik secret police.
When the shah was overthrown by popular revolt in 1979, the US, ignoring advice to the contrary, provided asylum for the ex-Shah. The resulting wave of indignation led to the Iranian embassy siege and the attempt by Jimmy Carter to free the hostages.
There were episodes of cooperation such as the Iran-Contra scandal, which perversely does not include Israel it it’s name, but essentially Iran has become more hated, almost on a daily basis, since the psychopath, Netanyahu, became PM of Israel.
RE: “But I don’t know what the end game is here,”
To subdue the untamed. The Daily Bell had a very insightful take on that. It used to be easy to find the link before the latest change, now, it’s close to impossible to find stuff on the Internet, every search just drags up worthless ads.
~ The Daily Bell put forth the idea that, ‘the hill country people’ those had to be tamed, needed to be subdued before The New World Order could advance completely.
Iran. Pakistan. Places like that, they were untamed. There needs to be order, don’t you see?
You cannot have World Domination, if pockets of the world resist.
…Did Iran have, a Central Bank?
One connected to the B.I.S.?
That. Is called, a clue.
While I’m sure that is an objective of the satanic rulers in our world, what I was referring to was what happens next and after that. Because once the interceptors are gone, the US empire lies open to every international adversary.
And once there are no interceptors, the drone and missiles bombardment will begin in earnest on US assets and especially on Israel. So there will remain two possibilities, total war including ground forces and nukes (and ask Ukraine and Russia how the vitally necessary ground forces fare in modern 5th generation war)… or surrender and capitulation.
And either way we are at the inflection point where the dollar based world economy collapses and totalitarian communism from China takes all the chips off the table.
There are unconfirmed rumors now of a US destroyer burning after a drone and missiles attack. This is going to go to hell very quickly.
And by the way, nuking Iran won’t be as effective as nuking the US, they are dispersed, mountainous, and have had 40 years warning to prepare for bombing attacks.
The US is fat, lazy, and incompetent, and vastly dependent on cartel politics, electronic gizmos and fragile efficiencies to support its population. I’m glad I prepared as much as I have, and I’m sorry I’m completely unprepared.
Thanks for the reply. That last line, Yah. Well put.
The lies being spread about Iran are the same lies being spread about Germany in World War II. It was said that Hitler was “insane” and wanted to take over the “whole world.”
No, he didn’t. He wanted to defeat the USSR and extend German influence into Eastern Europe, including Poland, which had been part of Prussia from the 1780s until 1918 anyway.
Iran is said to be run by “crazies” who want to nuke the entire planet and sponsor terrorism “all over the world.” No, they don’t. Have there been any Iranian terrorist attacks in South America? Iceland? Japan? In the U.S.? No. Iran sponsored regional militias in the Middle East opposed to Israeli and U.S. influence. Just like the U.S. supported regional militias like the mujahadeen and the Contras in the 1980s and the Montagnards in the 1960s.
It was said that if we hadn’t defeated Hitler, “We’d all be speaking German right now.” No, we wouldn’t. Germany had no way and no desire to conquer the U.S.
Similarly, we are told that Iran MIGHT get an ICBM in the future and MIGHT get a nuke and nuke the U.S.
Complete hogwash.
As much as I hate to quote Obama, he was right when he said “I am not against all wars, just stupid wars.”
But it seems that maybe 95% of wars are about stupid bullshit and total lies.
When is the last time the U.S. was actually attacked by a foreign country? 1941? And before that… 1812?
Both Nazi Germany and fundamentalist Iran may indeed have been repressive and unsavory regimes, but there and have been a lot of unsavory regimes out there. When did it become the role of the U.S. to pre-emptively attack foreign countries because they are repressive and unsavory?
How is was American-Israeli sneak attack on Iran any different than the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor?
Well, the Japanese attack was probably more ethical, because it struck a legitimate military target and didn’t assassinate our head-of-state FDR…
On the last, that would have been a bonus.
>“We’d all be speaking German right now.”
And that would be a “Bad Thing” because….?
I might point out that German and English were considered to be the two most important scientific languages in the 19th century. At one time, even in the 20th century, some chemistry programs required a degree of competence in the German language, in order to be able to read the scientific literature.
the 1941 attack could have easily been avoided or properly defended, hell it probably was spotted and ignored.
It was avoidable, Andrew, and on many levels. One of the many WW2 books I read, one of the survivors of the USS Arizona attack related that the younger (and greener) military guys saw the blips on the radar screen of the incoming Japanese prior to the attack. He was summarily ignored by his superiors.
Radar was an infant technology in 1941 and the Arizona didn’t have it. There was a land based radar installation on Hawaii and they did see something. But because the radar was experimental and unreliable, it was ignored.
But the Washington commies including FDR were pushing for their excuse and got it.
Far from being a “good war”, WWII was a contest between varieties of state socialism. Or if you want to be pedantic, between varieties of socialism and fascism.
“Iran sponsored regional militias in the Middle East opposed to Israeli and U.S. influence. Just like the U.S. supported regional militias like the mujahadeen and the Contras in the 1980s and the Montagnards in the 1960s.”
Exactly! If you want to lay the blame on CIA or whatever, that’s fine, but mostly pointless navel gazing. It’s already happened, and nothing will change those facts, nor, largely, what people think about those facts. (I think the same about hunting down Nazis. It’s also why I think statutes of limitations are probably correct, even if they way too often result in injustice. At some point, it’s no longer self-defense or countering aggression, but just retribution.)
Point being, the important question is, “Yeah, but since we can’t change the past, what’s the next step?” A couple of midwest boys get into some argument in a bar, tempers flare and punches may be thrown, maybe they settle it in the parking lot, but 10 minutes later, they are slapping each other on the back and buying each other a drink. Like it or not, ME cultures, all of them, are not like that. They hold grudges for a really long time, centuries and even millennia, so that has to be factored into the answer.
Wars used to be fought to benefit the countries who started them. Perhaps I’m a little on the slow side but I fail to see how this one will benefit us and many ways that it can and probably will harm us.
Whether looked at from a moral, ethical or just plain self interest I still can’t see any actual benefit for us.
It won’t benefit US. It WILL benefit our Jewish masters.
Don’t forget that the most top secret of secrets of World War II, The Manhattan Project, was rife with Soviet spies. The world would have been a very different place if the Soviets took as long as China to develop the atomic bomb.
The really bad thing is that it happened twice. First with the uranium/plutonium fission bombs, then again with the hydrogen fusion bombs. Someone wanted the Soviets to have them.
“Someone wanted the Soviets to have them.”
“Someone,” my dear boy? Tut, tut. How droll.
It was the JEWISH communists Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who gave the nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union…
The “Bible” is just a book, written by humans.
Suppose I don’t buy that “bull?”
It won’t be resolved in our lifetime … but Israel’s egregious mass slaughter in Gaza may well have put paid to all three of the Abrahamic religions. Jews did it; cucked Christians put their hands over their mouths and remained silent; Muslims were helpless to stop it.
If you like the comparison of Trump to Emperor Caligula, the French biblical scholar Laurent Guyénot posted a deeper analogy titled ‘Did Christianity Kill the Roman Empire?’:
https://www.unz.com/article/did-christianity-kill-the-roman-empire/
As Eric points out, ‘Israel’ in the biblical context refers to a tribe of people. Applying that name to a secular state, two millennia on, created a false equivalence and enduring confusion. The Christian Holy Bible, which unaccountably is about 60% composed of Jewish scriptures predating Jesus, is the Mighty Wurlitzer of Woowoo which made this possible.
Whether the bible did it or not, the Roman empire is long gone. Now, just months before its 250th birthday, it’s stone obvious that the American century is irrevocably over. This is not simply because China superseded the US as the world’s manufacturing center, but more conclusively because the deadly doctrine of zionism — the modern-day analogue of Moses ethnically cleansing the Canaanites to steal their land — destroyed America’s soul.
As a soulless empty shell of a nation, America has nothing left but some digital bits of counterfeit Judenschrift to be looted by our zionist rulers.
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iswas our misfortune. 🙁Couldn’t agree more. Christianity is responsible for Europeans and people of European descent regarding that shithole piece of as the “holy land” and regarding their ancestors as “pagans” and “heathens” who were damned b/c they honored their own ancestral gods. The same was done to Africans and the peoples of the Americas as well. Only Asians seemed to be immune.
I wish people would get their heads out of their asses and realize that Europeans (and others) have a history far older than the 1000-1700 years (depending on country) that it has been Christian and that much of their history as been stolen from them and replaced with that which the “Church” wants told.
No caring about Abrahamic myths, no caring about the nation of “Israel”
MQ,
As many faults as the Christian religion has, the condemnation of the ideology based on the actions of individuals who assert to be following the teachings of Christ strikes me as a collectivist reaction. If I understand things correctly, much of what the new testament, as originally scribed, rejected the Talmudic excuses for genocide. I agree that the likes of Mike Huckabee and his ilk tarnish the reputation of the ideology but I have to ask, did Jesus ever advocate genocide? I am serious because this use of Christian ideology as an excuse for the actions of the Israeli state strikes me as what I’ve heard as antiChrist….just saying. BTW, as should be obvious, I am not an expert on the Christian faith(s) but I do recognize the pattern of psychological manipulation to excuse barbaric behavior.
Jesus answered, “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ The second is this,
‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’‘You shall slaughter your neighbor lest first your neighbor slaughter you.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”There, fixed it. The Gospel According to Neocons, probably.
I don’t have any problem with anyone who finds comfort in/wants to follow the ethical teachings of Jesus. If those ideals work for you, fine. But the idea that shitty little piece of desert is some kind of “holy land” has caused no end of problems, from the Crusades to the current geopolitical situation and the Israel Uber Alles Christian Zionist maniacs who enable it in order to get “Raptured” and start Armageddon.
I would much prefer to live and let live on matters of religion, but considering current events and the people that are supporting them that is not possible at this time.
RE: “If those ideals work for you, fine.”
Are you drifting about? What, “ideals” work for you?
Most of Western Civilization owes its existence – it’s ideals – to Christianity.
Are you a Buddhist? Or, Hindu?
Where is your anchor for your system of values and ideals?
Have you been exposed to this perspective, quite unlike Huckabee et al:
https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/
Perhaps, listen a bit. ?
Is there really an America, without certain shared ideals, ones rooted in Christianity? [Not the war mongering Scofield type] Or, I guess, it’s a teeter-totter between the two? Idk.
If you want an interesting read that covers some of the religious influences from before the founding until the revolution, I can recommend the four/five volume set Conceived in Liberty by Murray Rothbard….it’s a commitment of time but IMO well worth the effort. The early influence of Puritanism was pretty toxic IMO….I think the books are available for a reasonable price from Mises.org.
Well if you have no intention of researching to prove whether your proposition is true or not in this life, I “suppose” you’ll have to wait until you die to find out just how wrong you are.
‘It is very difficult to assume the role of victim when … the “victim” is in fact the victimizer.’ — eric
In a column posted at Lew Rockwell’s site this morning, Caitlin Johnstone writes:
‘US Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz used the word “unprovoked” to describe Iran’s retaliatory strikes on US military bases in the region, which is just plain hilarious.
“Indiscriminate and unprovoked attacks by the Iranian regime today against our regional partners — Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan, and others — reinforce exactly why such actions are necessary,” Waltz told the UN.
‘Only the United States could bomb a country, kill its leader, massacre its children, declare the intention to destroy its military and topple its government, and then call that country’s retaliation against US military bases “unprovoked.”’
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2026/03/no_author/us-calls-iranian-retaliatory-strikes-unprovoked/
Cynically, deviously inverting reality, in a manner that others are certain to detect, is a clear-cut marker of sociopathy. Incapable of feeling shame or taking responsibility, the sociopath effortlessly flips the script onto his accuser, even when the logic is preposterous.
Yesterday the 4 ft 10 in Cuban dwarf Rubio explained that since Israel was going to strike Iran anyway, we had to attack pre-emptively to avoid greater casualties to our troops, who had just deliberately encircled Iraq in a war of choice.
Little Marco presents the corollary to an ancient but deadly accurate expression: ‘The
Jewersatz yanqui cries out in pain as he strikes you.’F*CK THE WAR.
You can imagine military generals screaming “stop resisting!” as they pin Muhammad down on the ground.
See, when the state does something, you’re supposed to comply. If you don’t comply, you brought this on yourself. It deeply pains the statist to have to kill you, but you left them no choice. Either you have a liberal democracy based on western values, or you die. It’s called freedom.
If it pains them so very very deeply, they could go ahead and not do it.
The fact that they don’t not do it is very telling.
In fact I think some of them actually enjoy it, on some level. Which, if true, would be even more telling.
Nicely said: “Incapable of feeling shame or taking responsibility, the sociopath effortlessly flips the script onto his accuser, even when the logic is preposterous.”