Slate – the Jeff Bezos-backed affordable EV pick-up – just got more expensive, looks like.
You may remember that this minimalist (few power accessories, no radio, even) and modular little truck that could be owner (or dealer) converted into a little SUV was promised to start at around $20,000. This was not just over-hopeful; it was disingenuous, because it knocked about $7,500 off the price of the vehicle (courtesy of Uncle Sam and the federal $7,500 tax credit). The vehicle would actually sell for closer to $28,000 – but the marketing spiel counted the $7,500 off to create the impression the vehicle would only list for around $20,000.
In other words, it was a lie – since the vehicle’s selling price is what it is regardless of the possibility of a tax credit post consummation of the sale. It was also a misrepresentation – because not everyone or for that matter most people even qualified for the full or even any of the potential $7,500 tax credit. You had to have owed a pretty hefty tax bill to qualify for the whole $7,500. If you didn’t “owe” – disgusting term in this (taxation) context – the federal government more than $7,500 you weren’t going to get credit for more than that. And now, of course, the credit is gone – so no credit for anyone to offset the actual cost of buying an EV.
Now, Slate says (internally, at rate ) the little EV pickup/SUV it says will become available sometime later this year will start fifty bucks shy of $25k ($24,950).
If this is accurate – if this turns out to be the base price of a Slate pick-up – it will probably mean the end of Slate before it begins. Or not long after. It will be something like a low-rent Lucid; i.e., a failure on the other other end of the spectrum. Lucid has been losing lots of money selling high-end EVs; it has been on the edge of bankruptcy since it began losing money selling high-end EVs. Slate is likely to lose money selling low-end EVs.
It’s actually not the low-end thing that’s the problem. It’s admirable that Slate has been trying – hard – to make a low-end EV, by making the Slate as basic as realistically possible. Well, nearly. As by nixing as many weight-and-cost-adding amenities as possible, such as power windows and even a radio (pre-wiring for an aftermarket unit is thoughtfully provided). AC is standard, though – and while that has become a kind of necessary luxury it nonetheless adds cost (and weight) and could have been made optional – as AC once was in most vehicles except luxury vehicles – to cut down the cost and the weight. As well as the power-suck. AC is not free – even after you buy it. In a gas-engined car, it reduces gas mileage because it takes not-a-little-bit of engine power to power the compressor. In an electric car, it takes electricity to power the AC; the consequence of that being reduced range. This is of no real importance in a non-electric car because it so easy – and so fast – to get a full tank of gas. It is very consequential in an EV, especially when the thing doesn’t have much range to start with.
The Slate is expected to come standard with about 150 miles of fully charged range. That’s roughly as far as you could drive a reasonably economical gas engined car that averages say 30 MPG on five gallons of gas, or about a third of tankful (about 12-15 gallons is the typical capacity of a current medium-small gas-engined crossover). It’s actually less far when you factor in the need to keep enough charge in reserve to make sure you make it to a place to recharge and also as cushion for the inevitable your actual driving range may vary reality of driving an EV. As for example because it’s really hot out and you turned the AC on.
Or ran the heat, if it’s cold out. In a vehicle with an engine, heat is free in that it does not burn any more gas to turn the heater on. In an EV, there is no free heat. Turning on the heat burns more electricity.
Would you pay $25k for a very small electric pickup that can only go a best-case 150 miles on a charge that doesn’t even come standard with a radio – or power windows? Maybe it’s better to ask why would you pay $25k for a very small electric pickup with very few amenities when for just a little more – $28,145 – you could buy a much more serviceable (and much nicer) hybrid electric truck like the Ford Maverick, which comes standard with a six speaker stereo, power windows and locks and an AC system you can use without worrying about running out of range. Speaking of that, the Maverick hybrid can go nearly 600 miles on a tankful – which can be refilled to full in less than five minutes.
To be fair, the Maverick isn’t modular; it’s a crew cab pick-up and that’s all it will ever be – unless you’re handy with a Sawzall and a welder. But you won’t need the Sawzall or the welder to make it practical because it is as it comes. It’s also just $3,150 more than the Slate – and that assumes Slate actually offers its little EV pickup for $24,950.
If the Slate were to be offered with a base price around $15k, they probably wouldn’t be able to keep up with demand because at $15k, a little EV with 150 miles of range is enough to serve as minimalist transportation in city/suburban situations. But they’d also lose money on every sale. That’s the Catch 22. EVs that actually make sense – especially financially – are too expensive to sell unless money is lost on each sale.
Bezos knows how to sell stuff on Amazon. But selling EVs and making money doing that is another thing.
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While a small diesel or gas engine and over drive transmission could be sourced for an affordable price from China I’m guessing GovCo would never allow it hence the $25K price for a golf cart with longer range.
The bigger problem is what’s the range going to be in a typical North Dakota winter? 20 miles?
North Dakota Weather Alert! Stay Inside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g9VfaAaIAc
So many reasons why cheap EVs aren’t ever coming to US shores. Primarily regulatory problems but also because automobiles require a bunch of people to get to the customer. Factory automation gets better all the time but there are still a ton of people employed by Ford, all getting US wages and benefits (actually probably above average US wages). Then there’s the dealerships, commission sales people, management and owners who all have to make US wages and benefits. Asian manufacturers don’t have anywhere near the same personnel costs and in the case of China, no regulatory requirements and probably outright direct subsidies from the CCP. Which is why they are barred from the US market.
Then there’s the way vehicles are sold in the US. You walk into a dealership, spend a few minutes looking at the cars in the showroom and whispering to your family members (because perhaps the dealership is sacred ground?). Soon a salesman will approach and start a conversation. He then gets you into his office (confessional?) and immediately begins to “crunch the numbers” to see what sort of loan you’re eligible for. No talk of what you might like, no discussions of options or what’s on the lot. Nope, gotta figure out if you’re a whale or a guppy. Once they know that they can figure out if you’re a pigeon too.
It’s a lousy system, but everyone plays along because it seems to work. Even if it does turn dealers into loan salesmen and manufacturers into banks. It may begin to change as more people retire and have to take investment distributions, because presumably they’ll be paying cash.
Hi RK,
Yeah, the whole dealership experience really sucks. Last time I shopped for a new car was the late 90’s, first question one dealer asked was “how much do you want to spend?” My response was “zero” and I did a U-turn on that guy. Being old I hope to never need to buy another vehicle, but if I do it will be cash from my 401k/IRA.
Probably the best “experience” I had at a dealership was when I bought my Jeep Cherokee. My cousin is married to a Chrysler corporate employee so he gave me the friends and family price code. Couple that with the check I got from Audi for my TDI buyback and a little cash from savings and I basically just picked color and options. The salesman was happy about the sale too since all he had to do was track one down and have it delivered.
Compare that to buying a used Chevy Lumina in the 1990s… I stood up and walked out of the salesman’s office twice, muttering something like “you’re not serious are you?” both when it came to the asking price and the trade in price. Then, because I didn’t have much/any credit I had to have a cosigner, which meant I had to drag my father up to sign off on the loan… and give the sales manager a piece of his mind too. Before I left the lot I made them remove the dealer license plate bracket and had the sticker removed that night. I won’t be advertising your dealership.
Slate was also about Girl Power until a few months ago when the board demoted Chris Barman in favor of a male from Amazon.
Yesterday I saw, for the first time, a tv ad for Scout. I haven’t been down by the plant north of Columbia, SC lately but, it doesn’t seem ready to pump out any products.
We shall see.
BTW, no price was indicated in the ad.
An ad on a streaming service, cable, or local TV?
A streaming service ad is usually carefully targeted. The company may even know that you post here.
criticizing a vehicle and the proposed price
without seeing it, or driving it, before
it goes on sale, is biased journalism
Richard,
Jesus. Your pedantic, supercilious lecturing is nauseating. The article is not a review of the Slate, which I have obviously not driven. It is an analysis of the thing’s pricing trajectory. It is not a news story. Do you comprehend the distinction?
The Slate electric pickup truck
was originally advertised as
$20,000, but that figure
was contingent on the
$7,500 federal EV tax credit
that was an honest claim
the vehicle’s official base price
was advertised from $27,500 to $28,000.
when the Trump administration passed
the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA)
in July 2025,
that was an honest claim
the slate truck is now claiming
$24,950 as the base price
the honesty of that claim will be decided
when the slate goes on sale
so far, the slate claims of their price
have been honest, so your story
is an unjustified attack
i do understand the difference
between honest journalism
and attack journalism
Richard,
It is not “attack journalism” to point out facts and analyze the implications. It is analysis. My analysis. You may not agree with my analysis but that is beside the point. You yourself admit that the initially dangled “$20,00” asking price “was contingent on the $7,500 federal EV tax credit.” A tax credit not available to everyone. In other words, “$20,000” was not the actual price Slate said it was going to list the thing for. It was what the thing might have cost if a person was able to deduct the full $7,500 from their taxes.
Exactly as I stated in the article.
Your insipid Talmudism is insufferable.
He’s a fly. All he does is eat shit and bother people.
Slate Auto never claimed the Slate Truck
would be under $20,000 without referencing
federal $7500 incentive.
Every article you write
does not deserve
a pulitzer prize
Richard,
Best to quit while you’re behind.
Eric, the best answer for Richard might be a comeback I once heard from the Unknown Comic: “Hey, If I want an shit from you I’ll squeeze your head”.
that is ANY
That’s a great one, Bill – thank you!
There has never been an instance in recent history of these lower priced vehicles selling at or near their introductory price.
Great handle, tick trawler!
Thanks, Eric.
Indeed, I’ve been looking into the ‘26 Mazda3 Eric recently reviewed, would be a good reliable car for my wife after I depart this earth. Not one dealer around here has the basic model, every single one is a “premium” model with lots of features that might be nice to have but just add to the cost and complexity. No thank you.
Hi Mike,
I might be able to help; I could ask my contacts at Mazda corporate to help, I mean. Email me if you’d like me to try!
Hey Richard, criticizing the taste of cow dung without tasting it is also “biased” journalism by your standard. But one doesn’t always need to test something to know it’s no good.
Came across this earlier today. Would be perfect for those of us who want a vehicle the way they used to be. Put your deposit down and cross your fingers.
https://reotrucks.com/
Morning, Klink!
If this truck is actually made it will be a godsend. For me personally, it’d be the first new vehicle I’d seriously consider buying. Godspeed. I hope they can pull it off!
Whoa … is Eric moonlighting as a copy writer for REO Trucks?
What Broke?
The average new vehicle now costs over $50,000, and the cheapest new pickup opens above $28,000 before anyone touches the options sheet. None of this happened by accident. Fuel-economy rules rewarded bigger footprints, a 25% tariff walled off small imported trucks (and still does), dealers bury the sticker under fees, and the manufacturers walked away from the bottom of the market because the loaded trim pays better than the honest one. Toyota still builds exactly this kind of truck, brand new, on three continents — but you can’t buy one here.
The buyers didn’t leave. The products did.
I’ll bet REO would cooperate with a requested interview, to be published on EPAutos. It’s a natural fit. Effectively, the REO truck was conceived here.
Looks interesting.I guess we’ll have to wait until Q4 2028 or Q1 2029 to hopefully see them in the wild though. $21.5K sounds affordable at least.
Despite article the other day about spotting scams . . . . Here ya all are fawning over a scam.
Speedwagon,
So you make us do our own homework, taskmaster? Okay, here ya go:
Q: Is REO Trucks a scam?
A: AI Overview
Internet solicitations for a new “REO Truck” or “REO Runabout” (often marketed as an affordable, manual-transmission ICE vehicle) are widely considered vaporware or a probable scam. The original REO brand’s trademark is actually owned by Volvo Trucks.
Current “REO Truck” Startups
Vaporware Warnings: Recent websites and social media campaigns taking deposits or offering pre-orders for a new “REO” pickup truck are heavily flagged as scams by automotive communities on Pickup Truck +SUV Talk and MaverickTruckClub.
Red Flags: These sites are typically short-lived (registered very recently for only one year), feature AI-generated imagery, and lack corporate backing.
____________
One strongly suspects that Reo’s pitch was largely lifted from EPAutos. Telling people what they want to hear end-runs skepticism. In this case, the scammer’s mistake is asking for a $25 deposit — obviously too low.
Professional scammers like Scout Motors demand a $100 deposit. Scout raised a cool $16 million with that pitch. I’m betting I can clear $25 million with my Mio Frio truck startup … details to follow! 🙂
That’s bad ass, Klink, especially if it actually does have a 500,000 mile powertrain life as they claim. Definitely the right direction.