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It is clear that we, the people will never get to know the truth about Epstein and his clients – if Tump can prevent us from knowing it.

Last week, in a typically Trumpian way, he exasperatedly avowed that Pam Bondi would eventually release Epstein material provided to the grand jury that he says found nothing there beyond what Epstein, himself did and he be dead and so  what’s the point?

Did you catch the con?

Trump promise to release the materials provided to the grand jury. Not all the materials. Not the contents of the CDs and flash drives and so on that were reportedly found in Epstein’s safe when his NY City nest was raided. Not the infamous list – which absolutely does exist. The government has the names of the people who visited Epstein’s creepy island and probably more than that.

Trump continues to incriminate himself by doing all he can to prevent the truth – the whole truth – from coming out.  His actions and more to the point, his near-incoherent but nonetheless furiously belligerent Tweets strongly suggest a man who has something to hide or something to fear. A man who did not would have responded very differently. He would have told the people:

Look, I assumed there was more to this when I was running for president and naturally wanted to get to the bottom of it. The allegations made about trafficking underage women and possibly blackmailing powerful people, especially in government, require being looked into. Well, we did look into it and it turns out there isn’t much there, beyond what we already know about Epstein himself. I am hereby ordering the release of all materials in the government’s possession about this matter so that the public can know what we know and so we can move on. I want the people of this country to know its leaders are not pedophiles and not blackmailed pawns of foreign governments. It is very important to me personally that any taint of the latter as regards our ally Israel be expunged so as to deny anti-Semites the fuel to foment hatred against Israel and the Jewish people.

Instead we got:

What’s going on with my “boys” and, in some cases, “gals?” They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and “selfish people” are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 “Intelligence” Agents, “THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,” and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “friends” are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY. The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB — SHE’S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 — That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more. One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

To recall a line used against Richard Nixon a long time ago: Would you buy a used car from this man?

Another question that remains to be answered is whether MAGA Red Hats will “move on” without real answers. If so, MAGA will nit just have lost credibility. It will have lost something worse.

Honor.

This Epstein stuff isn’t the usual crooked politician stuff. Nixon was a crook. But – so far as we know – he didn’t diddle thirteen-year-olds. The not implausible possibility that some high-placed people may have (and may have become blackmail objects on account of it) is a matter of much greater moral urgency. We cannot look away. We must have the truth – and those who try to suppress is by demanding we look away are almost certainly guilty of something a lot worse than sending G. Gordon Liddy to break into the Watergate Hotel.

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106 COMMENTS

  1. MISTAKE….
    But they were trafficking children during the Reagan/Bush administration. Gerald Ford had been a CHILD PORNOGRAPHER before being instated into the presidency. Was this a COINCIDENCE? Trudeau too was a major force in COINTELPRO and trafficking.
    All of this came from the experiments in Nazi Germany.

  2. NY Post – House Oversight Committee to subpoena Ghislaine Maxwell for testimony
    By Ryan King
    Published July 22, 2025, 12:56 p.m. ET

    I predict the entire world will be on the edge of their seats listening intently to what Ms. Maxwell says. EVERY SINGLE WORD.

    This is way bigger than OJ Simpson and Watergate combined.

    • Will never happen.

      This will go down one of two ways:

      1. Ms. Maxwell will never make it to the Capitol. The night before she will see the error of her ways and decide to end it all with two bullets to the back of her head

      or

      2. She will actually make it to the Capitol and plead the Fifth before she even sits down.

      This is a dog and pony show put on by James Comer. There will be no arrests, no public hangings, just another draining of the taxpayers wallets so Comer can have his ten minutes on camera looking like he is doing something. Wonder why James didn’t vote for the release of the Epstein files last week?!?! Inquiring minds want to know.

    • Too bad Mike Johnson just shut down the House until September; has there ever been such a large group of spineless eunuchs?
      I would add to RG’s comment that if Ghislaine isn’t suicided her motorcade will have an “accident” on her way to testify.

      • RE: “if Ghislaine isn’t suicided her motorcade will have an “accident” on her way to testify.”

        Unless, unless what she can say furthers the objectives of our overlords?

        Certainly, it’s a great distraction. But, if she moves thoughts towards what The Power Elite wants people to think…

  4. If you are a Baby Boomer your Great-Grandparents were pedophiles…by today’s standards.

    Check out the age of consent laws from 1880:
    https://cyh.rrchnm.org/primary-sources/24.html

    By ratcheting up the age of consent more problems have been created than solved. It has taken children and made them wards of the state and is part and parcel of the destruction of the family unit. Maxwell’s admission that she sought young women from “broken” homes should tell you that. This is Marxist to its core, just as most of the “Progressive Era” machinations were. And it sure gives the Police State and GovCo schools a bunch of new customers while tamping down labor competition.

    • Morning, Mark!

      There is certainly truth in this; that said, I think the thing that troubles people here is the possible sexual exploitation of girls in the first-driver’s-license age range by guys in their 50s. It is not the same as a 22-year-old John Quincy Adams courting a 15-year-old. The bigger issue, of course is the blackmail part. Even if the girls were legal age women but were not the wives of married men who had sex with them. The prospect of public embarrassment and expensive divorce exerts a certain pressure. And if it turns out the women were 17-18 and the guys in their 50s and 60s, then the creepy factor enters into play. It’s not technically pedophilia, as a legal or even etymological matter. But it is gross to most people and that is a potential problem for a politician or corporate tycoon.

      • People should have control over their lives to engage in relationships of their choosing irrespective of age differences.

        To list all the men that have relationships with women 40+ years their junior would fill volumes. Just look at Bill Belichick and his girlfriend. (She puts the “chick” in Belichick) Or Charo and Xavier Cugat who was 51 years her senior. On a personal level my great grandfather was 64 when my grandfather was born to his 24 year old mom. People may call them golddiggers but, that’s up to them, not the state. To a lesser extent my wife is 5 years older than me. When I first asked her out I thought she was my age or younger. In September we will have been together 50 years.

        Engaging in romantic relations based on force or fraud is wrong regardless of the ages of the people involved.

        Again, people should be free to choose with whom they will love and marry. To create artificial legal constructs only gives more power to the State, which is NEVER a good idea.

        • No argument, Mark –

          If a woman chooses to be involved with a dude 30-40-plus years older that is her choice. No argument from me. I think the deeper issue here is what may be the wholesale blackmailing of high-placed men, using things they’ve done that are either illegal or just disturbing to most people. A guy in his 50s or 60s who “parties” with 14-15-16-17-year-olds is probably not the kind of guy most of us would want in a position of authority (not that we want anyone in such a position, which is arguably the even deeper issue).

          Bill Clinton having relations with Mizz Lewinsky was rightly (in my view) disregarded by most people because she was a grown woman, even though much younger than he – and she was clearly looking to advance herself.

        • In 1000 CE, life expectancy was 45-54 years of age. Disease, hardship, primitive living conditions shortened lives.

          At 15 years old, your life was 1/3 advanced to your adult years, which lasted another 30 to 39 years.

          At 15, you would be well aware that you have only twice as much time to live, you marry early out of necessity. The nature of the beast.

          Not every woman survived childbirth, not every newborn survived birth.

          Time is not on anybody’s side.

          Survival’s never graceful when the changes come that fast – Guy Clark, The Beautiful Red-haired Madonna with Child

      • “And if it turns out the women were 17-18 and the guys in their 50s and 60s, then the creepy factor enters into play.”

        Grover Cleveland married a 19-year old in the White House. I think he was 52.

        Historically, young women LOVE IT when rich, powerful, older men take an interest in them. It’s only “creepy” if you’re a poor, broke old fart.

          • Which is why the women in the Epstein saga were likely less “victims” than we are being led to believe. Epstein was getting his women from Jewish billionaire Leslie Wexner, the guy who ran Victoria’s Secret. They all wanted to be lingerie models. Ever see those thirty-foot high ads in the malls that reveal 90% of some seventeen-year old chick wearing almost nothing but the most revealing undergarments? It’s as near pornographic as you can get, and thousands if not millions of hot young girls want to be that model with everyone drooling over their picture.

            It’s the same thing with all the young actresses who slept with Harvey Weinstein. Yes, some of them WERE “taken advantage of” but only because they were also trying to take advantage of others. Some of them WILLINGLY would sleep with anyone to get a big break.

            Never underestimate the power of female narcissism and their ability to trade sex or sex appeal for something they want. Most of the time they only have regrets when they are older and uglier or didn’t get what they wanted.

            With both Epstein and Weinstein (interesting they they come from the same culture, eh?) there were surely girls who got more then they bargained for, but make no mistake many if not most were on the prowl and were out to get something, too.

            Human sexual nature is a two-way street, I reject this idea that women are always victims. Some are. But plenty of women victimize men, too. Ask any dude who’s been to divorce court.

          • Hi Mark,

            There are some truly propagandized people out there. Remember all those people during COVID who bought Fauci candles & thought of him as a “Public Health Saint”? I’ve even seen people claim that the only ones dying from COVID were those who “Didn’t listen to The Science & get vaxxed”, while at the same time there were studies (slowly) coming out showing that the more COVID jabs one got, the MORE likely they were to get the dreaded ‘Rona.

  5. “The Truth Will Never Out”

    I would not be so sure of that.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=quotes+about+truth+&iar=images&t=ffab

    If there is proof that we live in a simulation, is that truth always finds a way to out. I have read many spiritual texts and new age books and they all insist truth has this “magical” quality. The Epstein truths ARE coming out. The elite have lost control of narrative, Epsteingate has legs and is gaining strength which could wipe out D.C. like a hurricane. Only inside the beltway is that a problem. Trump and all the rest going down is not a problem, it is their fate.

    “That’s the problem with truth. The truth is relentless. It won’t leave you alone. It keeps creeping up on you from every side, showing you what’s really so. That can he annoying” – Neale Donald Walsch

    There is a way to de-mystify our experience as humans. Truth is a subroutine, no matter how you try to hide something, the matrix has a program to defeat those intentions. Egotistical Trump thought he would never get busted for his underage play things with Jeffrey Epstein (otherwise why would he have run for POTUS?). Trump is now in a hell of his own making, his past has come to haunt him and destroy his presidency.

    I don’t know about the rest of you, I am tired of Trumpenstein and his devious lies and loyalty to evil Israel and the devil Netanyahu. Good riddance say I. Next. Let’s try the next guy in line. Got to be better than what we have now.

  6. Putting aside the sexual peccadilloes of rich men and greedy young sluts, I’d like to know what it was all supposed to be in aid of? In particular, who got blackmailed and to what end? My money says that’s a far more important and damaging aspect of the entire business. That’s what’s really being hidden here. But oh look, pedophiles!

  7. The first political thing I ever remember was when I heard on the TV that JFK had been assassinated, and I knew that was very bad for the nation, I walked outside and stared down the hill into the woods and knew I would be spending some of my life undoing what evil had done – murdered a great man we had voted as our president.

    Later in my teen years, still with no interest in politics, as I was fishing, hunting and trapping – my dad comes home from work and says “son, the FBI came to my office today and told me that Jimmy Carter would be the next president”. My dad, a scientist and executive at a major corporation, a true believer in the system, was visibly upset. My dad never lied to me, and was a dead serious person, he then told me he was briefed by some government agents (he said FBI, but maybe they were another agency) that it would be best for the nation if Carter was sworn in to heal the nation.

    I was more opened minded than my dad, I didn’t (dare) say what I was thinking (and this was post Vietnam BTW, I was a skeptic of the system), that the news that voting system was rigged was actually not surprising (to me at least). Why would powerful men ever allow us to choose who would be president? Duh, they wouldn’t, they had a whole lot of money and power to protect.

    As a result of what my dad told me, I made a decision right then and there never to waste my time voting OR FOOLING MYSELF that my vote mattered. Politics and voting were not for me, the woods and deer hunting and catching a nice big bass to eat was far more attractive. Sure as shit, Jimmy Carter was elected, and shortly thereafter I went off to college to study engineering, graduated, joined the USAF and saw the world, met new and interesting people, and lucky for me I was not tasked to kill them dead.

    The most important two books I read in college were Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged and Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Robert M. Pirsig’s book really made sense and was transformative, the importance of knowing your machine, knowing how it worked in intimate detail so that you could fix it on the road. The motorcycle should be looked at as a extension of self. It’s your pony, feed it and treat it well.

    While in the USAF, sitting alert, I devoured books, and I soon learned about the gold standard, and how Nixon took us off any price stability linked to gold, which led to inflation. As an officer, what I was reading was subversive literature, because the history of the United States is actually an ongoing criminal conspiracy. The more I learned the less I was willing to work as an agent of Rothschild. As a USAF pilot, I was not actually defending the USA or the Constitution, in reality my job was to drop bombs on any state that refused to go along with the Wrathchild central bankster criminal financial system. I was not defending freedom, I was destroying it. Soon, I was no longer working for them and got myself free.

    From the Federal Reserve (Wilson, 1913), world wars, removal of gold specie as a medium of exchange (FDR, 1932), to universal taxation (1914) and the ending of the gold exchange standard (Nixon, 1972) to the War of Terror (GWB, 2001) the Gulf Wars, tens of trillions of debt, and then a grand crescendo Covid 1984 police state (Fauci and Trumpenstein 2020). It was a slow century long coup. Now they got us by the balls. What should we do, keep voting? Hah!

    The Covid hoax was the last fucking straw for me, fuck the government, fuck their mandates, fuck their needles, fuck their false narrative, false flags, their endless lies – I resolved to myself to be a NeoLuddite. FUCK ALL OF IT, I AM GOING BACK TO THE WOODS AND TO HELL WITH PRESIDENT JEW ANUS LICKER AND HIS WARS. Anyone who trusts the government now, and submits to a death jab, is a damn fool.

    Looking back on my life I regret I ever left the woods. What had I gained, the knowledge of the world, but lost my soul to the corrupt intrigue of modernity. After the 911 attack, the engineered pretext to wage war on the world, I became very black pilled about any hope that our society, we allowed the government to get away with mass murder and start a War of Terror on the rest of the world so the mother fucking Jews could own everything.

    We the people are already dead (borrowing the phrase from the Matrix movie) completely and totally fucked and that is all there is to it folks. The latest Trump fiasco is nothing to fret about, we are already toast, we lost it all to gang of immoral bastards, cowards, backstabbers, con men, grifters, psychopaths, war mongers, Zionists and the worst of all the vermin – the televangelists who tell us we have to love Jews and Israel to get into heaven. Well, if that is the case, we can have our freedom back when we strangled the last preacher with the entrails of the last rabbi. Fuck the Bible, fuck the Jews, and fuck god damned Israhell.

    Like Janis Joplin said, freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose. What’s the point of voting at this stage? We should be lock and loading and going to D.C. and killing every single mother fucker politician. I am very serious about this situation we are now in, the demons in charge, who are funding and endorsing a genocide, have lost their right to even exist. How can you vote for any of them when you should be using them as target practice? Shoot them all and let the devil sort them out.

    • Excellent synopsis Jack,
      When the so-called intelligence agencies got away with murdering JFK, a sitting president, it was obvious that voting was pointless. The deep state agenda would continue no matter who was the window dressing of political “leaders”. I was in HS in 1963 and realized that everything we were told in Civics class was total bullsh*t

      • No.

        That’s Not an, “Excellent synopsis”.

        While he started out good & noble & relatable, his bottom line veered sideways & plays right into our Overlord’s hands. That’s exactly what they want.

        Perhaps, consider this bit:

        “The essence of revolution is centralized power. Engels knew this early, and reminded us of it for years. There is nothing more centralizing than a revolution. Every revolution in history has moved towards the centralization of power, including the American Revolution. This ex-spy, singing the songs of his youth, says that we are right at the edge of a revolution.

        We are at the edge of a non-revolution.

        What we’re seeing is decentralization. We are seeing the breakup of the equivalent of the Roman Empire. There was no revolution against the Roman Empire. It simply disintegrated.” …

        https://www.garynorth.com/public/12619.cfm

    • Epic comment Jack.
      Nothing to add. It was speeches like this from heroes like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford that almost kept us out of WWII.
      Everyone should read your comment multiple times.

      • So, you’re in favor of centralization & even more goobermint power over individuals, KurtV ?

        …Did ya even read the link?

        “Nothing to add.” Psft.

  8. The truth is anti semetic. 1913, the world wars, the nakba, JFK,RFK King, the Liberty,Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, 911, covid and the jewjab, the ongoing genocide..when will these cocksuckers be held accountable for what they do? Never? Because they print $ backed by nothing? Hitler was right and Patton understood we fought on the wrong side. Now look at us. Look at the West and its “leaders”, what a fuckin disgrace.

    • Trump is a pedo. He was named in a lawsuit as such. The plaintiff is now dead.
      Just call Orange man Donnie Darko.

  10. Everyone in government is a pedophile being blackmailed by a nuclear armed terrorist state. Orange Jezus is just another one of them. If one goes down, they all do and that will not be allowed to happen. So we know none of the politicians work for us, the are morally corrupt and blackmailed by a state waging a genocide with our money.

    Did you see Donnie boy’s company now has $2 Billion in bitcoin? As the Church Lady would say “isn’t that special?” Front running the dollar collapse as he and his boys are setting the thermite, buying double indemnity insurance and shorting the markets.

    As crooked as all the previous administrations were, the Don Con has stolen more than all of the other presidents combined in what will prove to be just another Trump Casino stock offerings. You do know he shafted investors in his casino not once, but twice? Only this time we are all unwitting Trump Casino shareholders and have no way out when he pulls the rug.

    I just knew it was going to be bad this time. He mildly amused me his first term, but this is just too much to bear with a smile.

  11. The hagiography of Trump will be heavily redacted.

    Epstein files are a red herring.

    Trump can’t handle the truth. If there were any at all.

    I think I’ll go buy some metric sockets and a ratchet, all I’m really worried about today.

    • Tulsi as DNI is probably in a position to find the receipts. Wonder what the story is on her nomination, does she agree with the Trump agenda or installed to undermine it. Nothing is as it seems and it’s more than one circle of insiders operating that could be jockeying for angles. I don’t think everyone is either part of the conspiracy or compromised by Epstein, so the threat of what it exposed could benefit one agenda as much as undermines another. It’s possible there’s a part of the permanent bureaucracy that wants to remove the zionist influence. Now before one thinks this is good for you and me, it’s probably a wing of the Constant War side that really wants to punch China or Russia into a hot war. But they see an opportunity to leverage Epstein to get what they want.

      • Hi Bosshog,

        I don’t believe she is 100% behind the Trump agenda. She is a bit of an enigma. She was mostly homeschooled and they tend to be free thinkers. At the same time she is military and has top secret security clearance so one can’t rule out she could be CIA sponsored. When you add in her faith, her outspokenness on certain issues (e.g. child exploitation, sexual harassment, etc.) she could also be there trying to make a difference. Any of the outcomes would not surprise me. I could see her following her own drummer, but wouldn’t be shocked if she was installed to keep the game going.

  13. Nixon was a lying, corrupt, self-serving prick who should have been strapped to a chair and tortured to death. Maybe he didn’t diddle little girls but he fucked the rest of us and this Country never fully recovered.

    • Who knows, but Nixon did several things I found unforgivable. He removed us from the gold standard instead of making some hard decisions.

      He did the following reprehnsible acts:

      Took us of the gold standard
      instituted wage and price controls
      Signed legislation to create the EPA
      MIddle east bullshit leading to the fuel crisis
      Created OSHA
      Created HMOs (in conjunction with Kaiser Permanente)
      War on Cancer (which did nothing)
      War on Drugs
      The 55 mph speed limit

      these alone were enough to fuck the country, so you’re right there.

      I don’t think he personally profited from the office aside from a couple of modest book deals. On the corruption scale, he’s about a 3. Presidents since have been much higher

  14. If “there’s nothing there”, according to Orange Julius Cassar, why did HIS Justice [sic] Department re-arrest him in ’19?

    Epstein, among other things, was The Billionaires’ Pimp. He had a side hustle just like the DC Madam. Who, by coincidence, also suicided herself with a rope.

  15. The problem with secrets is unless all co-conspirators are dead it is very hard to keep them under wraps.

    I don’t believe a “list” will ever be produced, because I don’t believe there is one, but information will trickle out. The rope tying the CIA and Mossad is starting to unravel. After watching the Darryl Cooper and Tucker Carlson interview this borders on the Satanic. I don’t think many of us can comprehend how disgusting, vile, and evil the oligarchy is.

    It should not be a surprise though. History shows us that the elite have never had a strong code of ethics. Old men taking child brides, orgies among Lords and Ladies, witchcraft, etc. is not new. The problem with today’s elitism is there are cameras, microphones, and spyware everywhere. TPTB are so delusional they believe they are safe from these intrusions…they aren’t. The secrets have been trickling out for years from Corey Feldman, Brooke Shields, Paris Hilton, Terry Crews, and Rose McGowan. Hollyweird and Clowngress (I am borrowing Jim H’s word) are intertwined. Epstein and Diddy run in the same circles.

    I think we are being foolish to think that some magical list that names every single person who participated in the destruction of innocent lives will make an appearance. We are all aware of what is going on and who is doing it. Trump, Clinton, the Podesta Brothers, Netanyahu, Tony Blair, Kings Charles and familia, Ehud Barak, the Bushes, Obama, Congress, Hollywood, the music industry, beauty pageants, the journalists running cover for them, the three letter agencies, the large banks and Fortune 500 companies that are money laundering, etc. all have blood on their hands. People are who they associate with. We don’t need a list to link these people together we just need to open our eyes and stop making excuses for them.

    • I agree, RG –

      As the saying goes: They know we know and we know they know we know. The veil has been rent asunder. It’s bad enough we’re ruled by con men and thieves – but this is (as you put it) Satanic – and I’m not religious. That video of testimony given by a woman who says she was made to service Trump when she was 13… if that’s true… if anything like that is true, then Trump deserves the kind of punishment most of us agree is merited when a grown man diddles a little girl. I hope it is not true. But I increasingly suspect it is.

      • Stanley Kubrick tried to warn us in 1999. One of the primary themes in “Eyes Wide Shut” is that the ultra-rich treat everything, even people, as commodities.

      • I do too. And I hope he burns for it in front of our eyes. This country will be better off with a president Vance. At least the guy can articulate a coherent thought and probably enact coherent policy. Everything goin on has been an abject mess.

        • Hi swamp,

          None of these men and women have gotten to power by coloring within the lines. They are scumbags…all of them. True, Vance seems more family friendly, articulate, etc. but we have to bring forth the question…who is pulling his puppet strings? Somebody is, otherwise he would have never made it this far.

        • I agree, out with traitor Trump and let’s make JD Vance the new president. Time to try a new guy because orange MIGA pig is a broken record.

            • Yes, I think Vance would be better than Trump.

              Donald Duck would be better than Donald Trump.

              Trump is the worst of the worst, for he pretended to be for truth and justice and was not. It’s one thing to be a scumbag, it is a rung lower to pretend not to be a scumbag just to get elected and then be worse than the worst scumbag.

              Trump has no morals and no integrity whatsoever.

              • I agree, Jack –

                With regard to Trump, his narcissism is so off the charts he doesn’t even try to hide it. Even Bill Clinton tried to pretend he wasn’t a narcissist. Trump is a guy who openly brags about how “perfect” he and his administration are and those who say otherwise are immediately denounced as enemies. He demands sycophancy that would make Hitler blush. On top of that, he’s just a bloviating con man who is likely also a dude who was involved in some truly sordid activities. If you haven’t seen this clip of him with Epstein, watch it – because the body language and so on are very telling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLcfpU2cubo

              • He has been married three times, has five children from three different women, and has filed bankruptcy no less than six times.

                Anyone believing Trump was a picture of integrity should have their head examined. People “selected” him because (maybe, naively) that he was outside the Deep State and could make significant change.

                I think the conclusion can be made that TPTB will never allow us a choice to select someone that isn’t already bought and paid for.

                Trump does serve a purpose. People are waking up. He is the gift that keeps on giving even if it may not be what we expected.

                • Hi RG,

                  Trump being president the 1st time was how I woke up to just how corrupt the U.S. government is, though I really saw it during COVID hysteria. People who screamed about regulatory capture of government agencies were called CONSPIRACY THEORISTS once upon a time, but the actions of the CDC & FDA, as well as the American Healthcare system during COVID, proved those people were right.

                  However, there are also people who think the federal government is only the way it is because of Trump, but the U.S. government has been corrupt for who knows how long.

                • Hi RG,

                  Yup. I – like most – did not (and still do not) hold his personal life against him insofar as it involves consenting adults. But I do care very much that he is very clearly abandoning the populist/nationalist America First stands he ran on. I would not have voted for him if he promised to send more weapons to Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeev, that he would “invest” billions in furtherance of creating an AI surveillance regime, that he would push REAL ID and promised not to hold high level criminals such as Fauci and the Epsteiners accountable for anything.

                  We wanted a populist/nationalist America First president. We ended up with John McCain. Again.

                  • Hi Eric,

                    I think someone’s personal life speaks volumes about them as a person. It needs to be considered. Trump never declared himself a moral person. His message was good, “America First”. This country needed someone cutthroat to be able to achieve that. The problem with immoral people is they have a tendency to cruise off course and lose focus on the objective. Trump is too busy side hustling and protecting his own neck to make good on his promise.

                    Maybe lighting a match and watching the place burn down will allow us the opportunity to rebuild, or at the very least, realize a centralized government benefits no one.

            • I forgot about that Thiel guy. I don’t care how much money you have, I’m not talking to you if you’re a fag.

    • The “list” is just a red-herring. That term has always just meant to be short hand for the Epstein evidence that will form the basis of a list of parties involved. The media and Trump are just being manipulative by trying to use the word “list” in its most literal sense.

      • This, right there -> “The media and Trump are just being manipulative by trying to use the word “list” in its most literal sense.”

        Do they also say, “A list” singular?
        With emphasis on the letter ‘A’?

        …Flight logs, are plural. They don’t count. ? Idk.

        I was convinced there’s plenty fishy going on at: He Doth Protest, too much.

    • Hey RG,

      I am glad you were able to watch Tucker’s interview with Daryl Cooper. You get an idea of how much effort DC pours into his content and how much he uses empathy as a tool of understanding how people can come to act in ways that leave us aghast. One of his techniques is to observe that every villain in history was once a three year old child…anyway, his content in the Martyr Made podcast is often hard to listen to but every series I have committed the time to consume has impressed me. Probably the most popular is the thirty hour Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem, about the foundation of Zionism from the late 19th century to 1948 founding of the Israeli state. Another great source of information from way back to the present is Scott Horton, who Tucker also interviewed. Folks at Moon of Alabama seem to be comparing the U.S. and the West in general to the U.S.S.R….in that both entities had powerful oligarchs with vast sums of money and power and the citizens of the countries involved to a large extent were/are powerless……human life means nothing to this type of psychopath and the tendency to dehumanize and abuse powerless individuals, whether it’s sexual abuse of children or just killing people for no reason, seems to be a common pattern. The systems that give rise to such are not, IMO, reform-able. This requires collapse and rebirth…..Unfortunate timing but we don’t get to choose in this case. Oh yeah, I think Israel is toast as well…..maybe they can all take up residence in what’s left of Ukraine after Russia reaches its goals there.

      • Interesting comment, Giuseppe.

        …What prevents a collapse?
        A bridge. A support beam.
        What could those be?
        World domination? Idk.

      • You are right, drumphish, I really don’t want to know, because I don’t want to believe people are capable of that kind of villainy. I can never understand someone who could kick a puppy or torture a kitty and I sure as hell cannot understand why anyone would ever harm a child or baby. It sickens me.

  16. Assessing this through a lens most charitable to Trump (i.e. that he didn’t engage in the debauchery), the only plausible reason he would suppress the Epstein materials is to prevent a revelation that the state of Israel was using Epstein as a way of gathering kompromat against US politicians to control them through implied or express extortion and blackmail.

    If such actions are true and were exposed, it would rightfully give rise to prosecutions for treason and espionage (and probably a host of many other crimes), and perhaps be a basis for a declaration of war. It would for sure be the death knell for Zionism.

    • The powers that be are trying to placate MAGA. There may be an opportunity to demand more freedom right now. The powers that be might be inclined to go along with these things to get everybody off the Epstein issue. Once some freedom is restored, then continue to demand the Epstein stuff. Like a cheating husband might be inclined to buy the Mrs. a new car, a vacation, etc., only to find that the divorce papers get served anyway.

        • Hi helot,

          I watched Patara’s video and I am going to disagree with her. I don’t believe she is coming down on Trump hard enough. The Christian Right really wants to see the good in everyone. They believe one can redeem themselves through Jesus Christ. If one is willing to put in the time, effort, and accountability they may be able to. No aspect of Trump’s personality shows a man of great faith or personal responsibility. I am not dinging him…that is the way he is…it is always someone else’s fault.

          The American public (whether it is MAGA or the liberals) need to divest themselves of hero worshipping and not wrap themselves upon pretty words, but actions taken. That shows someone’s true character.

          See no evil, hear no evil isn’t going to work this time around. The sheeple need to remove their heads from their asses. When someone shows you who they are, we need to believe them.

    • I have long felt that our so-called “alliance” with Israel has been utterly useless. If they do what we hear they are doing to their neighbors and to our government, a few kilotons headed their general direction might work in our favor. I’m not for killing innocents, but that government…..

      • There are no innocents in Israel. Anyone still in Israel is a demon in the flesh. No normal moral person would ever voluntarily live in hell. Really, you have to be a real moron to actually believe the holy text literal then act on it. The Holy Bible and Torah are works of fiction, fables, and bad ones at that. To put on a kippah and pretend you are god’s chosenite is the height of insanity. There is no god who is choosing or even cares.

        Even the Palestinians are not guilt free, if you are being overrun by barbarians, choosing to stay is a choice. If I was a Palestinian I would of been gone a long time ago. You can not help your cause if you are dead.

  17. THE FIX IS IN. How do we know? The Lügenpresse just told us:

    How Trump Deflected His Base’s Wrath Over Jeffrey Epstein, at Least for Now

    ‘By tapping into other grievances, President Trump managed to turn one of the most fractious moments for some of his supporters into a unifying one.’ — New York Slimes, today

    Yeah, right! as they say in Da Big Apple. This is a ‘man bites dog’ story. Why would the Slimes carry water for its arch-enemy, Orange Man Bad?

    Simple: Jeffrey Epstein’s honeypot entrapped dozens of Democrats, starting with Pedo Bill and rug-muncher Hillary, who gave those little bitches quite a workout with her snap-on tool.

    Sometimes the leftist press has to take one for the team. Because at the commanding heights, we’re all in this together.

  18. Trump’s Book of Faults is a few pages longer since he has been accused of being a pervert. Kind of a corrupt character, it seems so, anyhow.

    His brain must be mush by now, Trump needs a drink.

    No Teflon presidency for you, Donnie.

    What about Leo Wanta, the man of mystery, who bilked the Soviet Union out of 27.5 trillion dollars?

    He was on a mission in Switzerland to arrest Marc Rich, instead he was thrown into the hoosegow.

    Where’s the 27.5 trillion dollars that is designated for the American people?

    Leo didn’t want to deposit the big bucks into the US Treasury, he was sure the banksters would pull a heist.

    He gave Bill and Hillary 250 million for the Children’s Defense Fund. The Clintons kept the money for their own slush fund.

    The graft and corruption never ends.

  19. Alan Dershowitz, who represented Jeffrey Epstein in his 2007 sweetheart deal and is working his own insider angle, says Trump’s request to release grand jury files is a diversion:

    “Grand jury information is narrowly tailored by prosecutors only to provide sufficient evidence to result in an indictment. They don’t want to put a lot of material in the grand jury because that would then [be] produced to the defendant.”

    “[Names of alleged sex fiends associated with Epstein] are not in the grand jury transcripts. They’re in sealed records by two or three federal judges in the New York courts. I’ve seen some of these materials. For example, there’s an FBI report of interviews with alleged victims, in which at least one of the victims names very important people, and the names have been redacted …

    ‘The documents that transparency advocates should be pursuing include “discovery information, depositions and other things that came out of the Ghislaine Maxwell case and other cases,” Dershowitz said, including a case against the UK’s Prince Andrew. “The information that hasn’t been requested is going to be far more informative than the grand jury information.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dershowitz-us-should-grant-immunity-epstein-rosetta-stone-ghislaine-maxwell

    But of course. The Epstein files represent a rare real-life instance in which insiders actually are playing 4D chess, while we get only a 2D view of chess piece shadows on our rude cave wall.

    A multiple offender should learn from his mistakes
    I’m ready to surrender if that’s what it takes
    I waited our time; I’m still in custody
    If jailbait is a crime, Trump’s a mystery

    — The Pretenders, Love’s a Mystery

    • Here’s Dersh’s carefully calculated whopper:

      “The FBI interviewed alleged victims who named several ‘clients.’ I know who they are. They don’t include any current officeholders.”

      HA HA, lord no, that would be unthinkable! 😉 :smirk:

      Dersh’s between-the-lines message, as received by Donnie Trump: ‘We’re all in this together.‘

      Okay, let’s roll the video …

  20. Just like JFK, MLK, RFK, we’ll never know the truth about Epstein. Any smoking gun evidence has long been destroyed. I’m kind of surprised people think they’ll get to the bottom of it though MAGA types can be quite thick.

    All you need to know about the Epstein case can be found in the plea deal he took in Florida in 2007. Who gets a deal like that especially when underage girls are involved? And afterwards the big shots still hung out with him knowing he was convicted of that. Who would fly on a plane nicknamed the Lolita Express? They know they can get away with anything.

    • …it though MAGA types can be quite thick.

      That’s almost an understatement, Klink. Very well put. I voted Trump 3x, but after this time, I feel like I bought a weasel in a rabbit suit.

      I’m sick over virtually everything this administration is doing.

  21. But we DO know the truth. The truth is that the U.S. government is completely subservient to Israel. The U.S. just bombed a country on the other side of the world that never attacked us, without a Congressional declaration of war, because Bibi demanded it. The U.S. has had troops in Syria for ten years because Israel demanded it. The U.S. deployed TWO nuclear aircraft carrier battle groups to the Mediterranean when Israel was attacked by HANG GLIDERS. The U.S. gives nuclear-armed Israel, a non-signatory of the NPT, foreign aid in violation of its own laws. Nancy Pelosi said that if the walls of the Capitol were to crumble down, both parties woudl still support Israel.

    And this has been going on for decades. Congressman Traficant said it 20 years ago. Jonathan Pollard was caught spying on us 40 years ago (and Bibi wanted Trump to pardon him!)

    Strictly speaking, it matters not which politicians were fucking which girls and what their ages were. These people are pervs and always have been. Ted Kennedy killed a girl he was fucking while driving drunk. Clinton was caught with his dick in an intern’s mouth. Congressman Studds had a homosexual relationship with a 17-year old buy. Barney Frank’s boyfriend was running a gay prostitution service out of Frank’s apartment.

    What matters is that a foreign nation has used this to control us, and that our politicians are subservient to a foreign nation, not the American people.

    The Founders are rolling in their graves.

      • Yep. And as disgusting as that was, the statute of limitations had expired, so the nailed him for transferring money out of his bank account to avoid the $10,000 reporting requirement, which was bullshit.

        It’s like getting pulled over and arrested for driving under the speed limit.

    • Very well put.

      When I was getting a security clearance, the FBI came and interviewed my parents and one of my favorite teachers and my baseball coach. The questions were all of the same: was he a communist, a homosexual or any other sexual deviant? The first question is obvious.

      The next two are because if you have a vulnerability, the other side can blackmail you and turn you into an unwilling intelligence asset.

      Our entire political class is blackmailed. That and a lot of them belong to a death cult that wants to engineer the Second Coming of Christ via Israel, even though their heretical Schofield-“bible” beliefs are antithetical to scripture.

      We are a low-trust society now because we’re a nation of foreigners living together and the morality of our ruling class is in the gutter.

      I just assume “the official narrative” from government sources and the lugenpresse is complete horse crap and go from there.

      • Yes, and ironically enough now it is the communists, the homosexuals and the sexual deviants who are awarded security clearances. The questions they probably ask today are “Is he a white nationalist, a Nazi, a racist, a hardcore Christian? Does he opposed gay marriage and abortion?”

    • Congressman Studds had a homosexual relationship with a 17-year old buy.

      I remember that. Back in 1982 or 84, I think.

      The irony is that a Daniel Cran R-IL fooled around with a 17 year old girl. He lost his seat. Studds kept is.

      That says a lot about where America was back then, much less, now.

      Upgrade the homo downgrade the straight guy.

  22. Has anyone paid attention to the P. Diddy case? Around the same time the Trump administration effectively said there was nothing there re Epstein, the most serious charges against P. Diddy were dropped, and the prosecutor in that case was the daughter of corrupt former FBI Director James Comey.

  23. “blackmailed pawns of foreign governments”

    Blackmailed pawns of our rogue domestic intelligence agencies. Never ever mentioned in media as even a slight possibility. Unthinkable!

    • Everyone in government is a pedophile being blackmailed by a nuclear armed terrorist state. Orange Jezus is just another one of them. If one goes down, they all do and that will not be allowed to happen. So we know none of the politicians work for us, the are morally corrupt and blackmailed by a state waging a genocide with our money.

      Did you see Donnie boy’s company now has $2 Billion in bitcoin? As the Church Lady would say “isn’t that special?” Front running the dollar collapse as he and his boys are setting the thermite, buying double indemnity insurance and shorting the markets.

      As crooked as all the previous administrations were, the Don Con has stolen more than all of the other presidents combined in what will prove to be just another Trump Casino stock offerings. You do know he shafted investors in his casino not once, but twice? Only this time we are all unwitting Trump Casino shareholders and have no way out when he pulls the rug.

      I just knew it was going to be bad this time. He mildly amused me his first term, but this is just too much to bear with a smile.

  24. ‘Pam Bondi would eventually release Epstein material provided to the grand jury.’ — eric

    Unlike a trial, a grand jury proceeding is not adversarial. The prosecutor presents only as much evidence and testimony as (s)he thinks necessary to obtain an indictment. The rest is held for use in the trial.

    Trump is okay with releasing grand jury records because his lawyers already know what’s in them. They definitely do not include ‘the list,’ because those other names were not indicted. Nor do they include references to Epstein as an intelligence asset, both for natsec reasons and also because that would be a potential defense argument.

    In Nixonian terms, here’s Trump’s strategy:

    ‘Coined on the fly by Nixon lawyer John Ehrlichman in 1973, it’s a very unique phrase. A modified limited hangout is the public admission of a wrong in an attempt to hide a more serious wrong, while the media and prosecutors are investigating related crimes. It’s a defensive tool in trying to cover-up a conspiracy.’

    By Trump’s own admission, Epstein’s thousands of hours of video are child porn. The simple question is, who are the adult actors in these videos? If the FBI reviewed the videos, they have the names of these perps — probably dozens of them. Why do these Very Important People enjoy impunity for acts that send ordinary people to prison for life?

    Frankly, at this point, I need a little comic relief:

    https://x.com/JakeG_Official/status/1942934325546172549

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