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The Camaro – which GM cancelled two years ago after a failed reboot – after a previously unbroken production run going all the way back to 1967 – may be coming back. GM’s president, Mark Reuss, hinted at it recently and said, specifically, that if it happens, a new Camaro would be “functional” and “fun.”

This implies the last Camaro – the 2024 model – was neither.

It certainly wasn’t functional. It had back seats in name only. It had less room for things inside than a Corvette, which is a two-seater. So why even bother with the just-for-looks back seats?

But it was fun.

Especially the SS – with the V8, which was available with a six speed manual transmission. Even the base trim – which came with a 3.6 liter V6 – was stronger (and quicker) than most of the V8 Camaros of the classic era, including the 1967 Z28. The latter’s 302 cubic inch V8 touted all of 290 horsepower; the ’24 Camaro’s V6 made 335.

Chevy allowed buyers to have the base V6 engine with a six speed manual, too. Contra Ford, which forces buyers who want fun to buy a V8 GT because the base trim 2026 Mustang comes only with a turbo four paired only with an automatic.

Why Reuss would imply the last Camaro wasn’t fun is hard to figure.

The last Camaro’s real flaw was its price. Which started at $30,900 back in 2024. That’s too much for the majority of Camaro buyers, who are mostly guys under 35 – and that makes it not very fun. It is like the girl you dare not ask out for a date because she’s out of your league.

Some wayback time is warranted, to make the point.

Let’s go back to the mid-late 1970s, when the Camaro was hugely popular. It seemed every third car was a Camaro – or a Firebird, the Camaro’s Pontiac cousin. Probably because it was. In 1978 Chevy sold 272,631 Camaros. To put that in some perspective, it is comparable to the number of F-150 pick-ups that Ford sells today, when you take into account the population then (about 220 million) vs. now (more than 320 million). To say it sold well is like saying the Germans did well during the first few months of the war against Russia.

It sold well for one reason – beyond the fact that it was a good-looking and fun-to-drive car that almost everyone liked.

It was a car almost anyone could afford.

Startlingly so – relative to what the last (2024) Camaro sold for. In 1978, the Camaro’s base price was $4,414. If you plug this into the government’s inflation calculator – which probably downplays just how much inflation has cost us over the years, in terms of the dollar’s diminished buying power – you get $22,813.

That is at least ten grand less in actual dollar buying-power then vs. now.

What will $22k buy today? It is just barely enough to get you into you something like a 2026 Hyundai Venue, which is a subcompact crossover and that brand’s least expensive model. The Venue is not a bad little runabout – but it’s not a Camaro.

Back in ’78, you could get a brand-new Camaro for that kind of money.

It didn’t have power windows, locks or AC for that money. But that was just the point. You could get it without those things and so for not that much money. Almost anyone working a full-time job can afford a $22k new car and that is why – back in ’78 – a lot of people were driving around in a new Camaro.

Even the top Camaro – the Z28 – only cost $5,603 back in ’78. The BLS inflation calculator says that sum back then has buying power equivalent to $29,035 today. In other words, back in ’78, it cost less (in real terms) to buy a Z28 Camaro than it cost in 2024 to buy a base trim Camaro.

Forget the V8 powered SS.

That model stickered for $40,866 in 2024.

It’s true the ’24 SS Camaro had a larger 6.2 liter V8 that boasted more than twice the power (455 horsepower) touted by the ’78 Z28’s 5.7 liter V8, which only ginned up 190 horsepower. But what is the point of all that power if you can’t afford it? This is such a simple point, yet it has been lost over the years since ’78. The last Camaro SS was basically a supercar, with more power and more ferocious acceleration than the Ferraris and Lamborghinis of the ’70s – and ’80s, for that matter. But that kind of fun is also priced accordingly. What made the Z28 of the ’70s a different kind of fun was that almost anyone could afford one.

Especially a used one.

I know, because I owned two of them. A ’78 and an ’80 Z28. I owned them in the ’80s, when I was in high school and college. Back then a high school/college-aged kid could afford a six or seven year old Camaro because by the time these Camaros were six or seven years old, they’d depreciated to less than half their new car value, then as now. Thus, a ’78 Z28 that cost $5,603 new could be had for about $2,500 used – and as anyone who was there at the time can attest, it wasn’t that big a lift for a young guy in his early ’20s to swing a $2,500 used car.

That’s why Camaros were once as common as crossovers are today.

Could GM do the same today?

GM could certainly try. The problem is compliance costs are a real thing. Federal regs say all new cars must have air bags and so the car would have to be designed around these things – as well as other federally required rigamarole. But why not try striking while the iron is hot? Trump has done all but said the federal regs should be ignored. Why not just ignore them – and build some cars like they used to make ’em? It’s not much of a gamble because it is doubtful Trump would sic the government on them for doing so. He might just be hoping at least one major car company will grow a pair and build cars for the market rather than to comply with the government.

If GM were to do it – and our hypothetical reboot of the ’78 Camaro were to become available for what a ’78 Camaro cost – and the thing sold like the ’78 Camaro sold, it’d be damned hard for the government to do much about it. Especially if the government doesn’t want to do much about it.

This is what’s known as an opportunity.

I hope Mark Reuss is listening. Maybe he can duct tape Mary Barra – GM’s CEO – in the closet for as long as it takes to get a new ’78 Camaro in Chevy showrooms for around $23k.

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34 COMMENTS

  1. This is Mary Barra’s GM. Any new Camaro will be an electric crossover. Or a 4 cylinder crossover hybrid with a turbo and CVT. If by some miracle they actually make a somewhat “real” Camaro it will be overpriced by $20k. No thanks, let it stay dead if it’s that.

    There is a reason why guys like us don’t work at major corporations anymore.

  2. The Camaro wasn’t in continuous production since 1967 – it was killed off from 2002-2010. I think GM only brought it back due to the popularity of the retro Dodge Challenger.

    • Morning, Shadow!

      That Corvette is gorgeous – but the price if ridiculous. These auctions have turned cars that were once cars ordinary Americans could afford into “investments” that only the rich can afford. Do these “investors” wrench – or even know anything about the cars, other than they are “investments”? I have seen nothing-special ’77-78 Trans Am Bandit clones – not actual movie cars or even cars that have the desirable 400/4-speed combo – go for six figures at these auctions. It has driven the price of even “driver” TAs such as mine to stupid heights. I could not afford to buy my ’76 TA today – a car I was able to afford when I was a young guy in my 20s.

      Jeasy peasy!

  3. My first car was a charcoal gray 1984 Z28. 305 HO (lol) with the 5-speed, no t-tops, and the vinyl interior. Paid $3,800 for it with 68,000 miles back in 1989. It made good power after desmogging and decatting it. Had to convert to a manual choke after the electric choke started acting up. Flip the lid on the airbox and those vacuum secondaries sounded like the angels singing.

    Never liked them from the catfish on. Catfish is ugly and the newer ones are boats.

    • Morning, Local!

      I got to drive a few L69 (305 HO) Z28s back in the day, when as a high school kid I worked summers at a Chevy dealership doing monkey work such as prepping new cars for the customers. We – me and two of the other guys who were about my age – would sneak the cars out and drive them around the block. I remember getting rubber on the 1-2 upshift in a new Monte Carlo SS!

      • Eric, I did the same job as you for a Ford dealer when in school. My job title was Lot Boy. Got to check out and drive some really cool cars during that time.

  4. I work here. It will be a 4 door EeeVee ala Mach E. That’s why MR said what he said. That or he was drunk off his arse again. Don’t get your hopes up, The lower case car company is just waiting orange man out.

  5. If it’s true that what’s good for GM is what’s good for the United Sates of America, then what’s good for the United States of America is what’s good for GM.

    What’s good for the United States of America is an affordable, fun, 1978-style Camaro reboot that challenges the existing regulatory structure to the point of making it a dead letter.

    Therefore, such a program would be good for GM, and failure to attempt such a thing would be unpatriotic and a disservice to taxpayers and shareholders alike.

    I rest my case.

    • At some point one has to think (hope?) one car company realizes they are in a fight for survival against all the bull. If they do maybe they will also realize that if they produce a car the market actually wants and can face down the bullies long enough to catch fire they’ll expose the problem.

      I’m not hopeful, though, because no company is going step forward to buck their overlords and more importantly I really doubt many Americans would have their back. It’s the problem with our country generally. If you were being beaten in the street by cops 99 out of 100 of your fellow countrymen would join in or cheer them on instead of do the right thing.

      • People with that kind of balls don’t usually do well enough in modern corporations to be able to filter up close enough to the top to actually do anything. It’s all rule-followers and sycophants. Steve Jobs was the closest thing to not-that we’ve had anywhere for a very long time, and he’s dead, and it shows.

  6. The 2-door market (for vehicles within price range of working people) has run into a multi-bladed buzzsaw.
    Ford sells a handful of Mustangs.
    The re-introduction of the Prelude was received with “meh.”
    Does ToyoBaru make any money on the BRZ/86s?
    Miata sells annually in the 4 digits.

    Even the marketing is a joke. GM teams in NASCAR still run Camaros.
    Race on Sunday and sell….uhhh….Trailblazers and Traxs on Monday?
    Chevy sells one coupe – Corvette, and the only remaining GM vehicle with an optional manual transmission is a Cadillac.
    Are there any current platforms (even worldwide, like when they built the 04-06 GTO) that would even be able to accommodate a Camaro?
    I don’t see them spending money on a ground up design, especially when the EeeVees are still bleeding cash.)

  7. Hope springs eternal, I have the same hope…someday a sensible car will be made, inexpensive and of decent quality. It seems to me nowadays the government designs the cars and the car companies figure out how to manufacture it.

  8. Also I have to note that even if the car is by some miracle sporty and affordable, the insurance concierglieri will make it unaffordable for guys under 40.

  9. I always liked Camaros, never owned one. Starting out, Dad wouldn’t let me buy anything sporty, and judging by the frequent tickets I got driving diesel Mercedes, diesel scout, and air cooled VWs, he was probably wise. I drove and wrenched on first gens, then drooled over the 70-73 oval grille/Ferarri Daytona ripoff gen 2’s, then stepped away from the safety bumper ones. Got really close to a 3rd gen several times, but always had my money in something more exotic. 4th gen, as Eric noted was a homely beast. And then that over complicated “faux-gen1” gen 5 left me cold.

    I hope they pull a rabbit out of a hat, but I think we’re more likely to see a 2 door Lada or Yugo at this point.

  10. “ Trump has done all but said the federal regs should be ignored. Why not just ignore them – and build some cars like they used to make ’em? It’s not much of a gamble because it is doubtful Trump would sic the government on them for doing so. He might just be hoping at least one major car company will grow a pair and build cars for the market rather than to comply with the government.”

    You sir, are delusional.

    “ Still, I like to think that there might be hope. Then again, that’s what I thought when I voted for Trump back in November of 2024.”

    And you want the automakers to make billion dollar bets that the USA government will turn a blind eye to non-compliance?

    Delusional maybe isn’t a strong enough word.

    • Hi Seriously,

      You’re probably right. But this is probably the last opportunity for a car company to do something audacious and “get away” with it. Wouldn’t that be something?

  11. The Camaro has been a terrible look car for years gm build quality has been shit since the 1990s unless it comes to market under 30k no one will buy it most people can’t afford a weekend toy anymore and need to be v8 with a manual to be anything cool not a turbo v6 or v4 with 10 speed auto but probably be something like that so better of just buy a basic car if so basically the same difference but cheaper man do I hate new cars the gay .

    • Hi Angelo,

      I agree. I’m a guy who has owned five F cars. Second and third generation versions. I lost interest when the 4th gen cars came out because they were ugly. The 5th gen cars were much too expensive.

    • I don’t think it has to be the Z28 to sell. There is a difference in the market compared to 1978 for sure. Back then people wanted desperately to drive as soon as they could. I don’t think there’s the same demand by 16 to 20 years old now to sell Camaros by the bucket. But I do think there is demand for an affordable car that young people would like. The high end trim and bigger engine would make it legitimate but I think a smaller engine would sell just fine. I know plenty of my kids’ friend who roll their eyes at dull mini SUVs. They sense the sameness. They ask me about my manual transmission, film cameras, tube amps and vinyl records. They’re interested in The Time Before Y2K.

      • I agree, Harry –

        A simple, rear-drive sporty car – something like the Mustang LX (with the four) of the ’80s – would be right, I think. The early third generation (1982-1992) Camaros were available with either a 2.5 liter four or a 2.8 liter V6. I owned one of the latter (’86) and it was a fine/fun car to knock around in.

        • It’s a situation where you can’t -ask- people to describe the market, it will never exist that way. The original muscle and pony cars were catching lightning in a bottle. No one went into a dealership asking for a Rocket 88 but when they saw it it clicked. Yes, that’s what I want!

          The problem with MBAs and marketing majors is they take a survey before acting. It’s literally Build It And They Will Come. Simple, fun, affordable. It’s not hard to understand. They have to stop reading trade rags, letting cluelss ivory tower professors and government flunkies define their products.

          At this point, though, I think car companies have to fail. Like a lot of things you can’t save a sinking Titanic bailing it out with a bucket brigade. The sad reality is we’re going to have to follow the civilization arc again, relearn what once was known and forgotten.

  12. Mark Reuss, hinted at it recently and said, specifically, that if it happens, a new Camaro would be “functional” and “fun.”

    Good Lord! That means it’s going to be a 4 door hybrid with alloy wheels and a spoiler. No one seriously planned on using pony cars to go on a 2,500 mile road trip to visit their Aunt Rose with the 3 kids jammed in the back. Sure with the base drive train it’s an affordable good looking commuter car and with the V8 it can do the same thing but with the bonus of fun.

    I don’t care too much about functional if it’s affordable and fun because it would still be able to most of what I want it to do.

    You know that general mistake is going to screw the pooch on this one so color me disappointed in advance.

    • But that’s unlikely since the last few generations aren’t having kids and families, thanks mainly to femmunist government and it’s explicitly anti male bias.

      Agreed on the 4 door hybrid with a spoiler, they won’t even try things like cheesy vinyl/wrap graphics. We have a true dearth of coupes and roadsters. We lost the MGB and got the BMW Mini. Which is ok, but not nearly the same.

  13. Odd: the pretty brunette in the final photo is a dead ringer for my mom in her mid-twenties … although mom is sitting on the front of a 1949 Ford coupe in the analogous photo.

  14. RE: “I hope Mark Reuss is listening.”

    FUCK him, and his midget pony he rides upon. He sucks.

    He ain’t giving you peons – Jack Sheet!

    No way, in Hell, are you all/we/us getting cool cars that make sense, again.

    It. Just. Ain’t. Happening!

    Clueless/power hungry/bastards design for-sheet/crap automobiles in America in now.

    Face it.

    They. Don’t. Give. A. Crap.

    • That’s likely so, Helot. Sadly so.

      Still, I like to think that there might be hope. Then again, that’s what I thought when I voted for Trump back in November of 2024.

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