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Why Did They Fail?

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You may have heard that the Toyota Supra – which is actually a re-skinned and re-badged BMW Z4 – has been cancelled. So also the Z4. It’s perhaps worth doing a post mortem to ascertain the cause of death, since both of these sports cars were appealing cars. It’s obvious why the Cybertruck didn’t make it; the thing is embarrassing to be seen in and functionally ridiculous. It is a “truck” that is largely useless for doing things most people buy a truck to do, such as hauling gravel or sheetrock in the bed and or towing RVs and trailers for hundreds of miles at a time.

The Cybertruck was very good at going very quickly, which is a good thing since it’s so hideous and stupid the faster it gets out of our sight the better.

On the other hand, the Supra/Z4 is a fine sports car; either iteration is very appealing to people who like sports cars. They are both balls-to-the-walls fun to drive (I have test driven them both and so say that based on personal experience) and good-looking, too.

But they have become very expensive cars, thanks to the devaluation of the buying power of the dollar. Back in 2020 – just six years ago – both of these cars had a base price just under $50k. Today, the same BMW starts $56,100 while the Toyota starts at $58,300. Ordinarily, a Toyota-badged vehicle would be priced below a BMW-badged iteration of the same thing. However, Toyota prices its version of this sports car higher because the Supra comes standard with the inline six that is optional in the BMW.

That’s interesting, too – because you’d think the more prestigious-brand BMW would come standard with the six, while the more mass-market (in terms of brand) Toyota would offer a lower-priced trim with a smaller, less powerful engine.

Meanwhile, BMW sells – tries to sell – its version with an underwhelming four cylinder engine for $56k-plus to start. Both are non-starters – because most people who want a sports car can’t afford a nearly $60k-to-start Toyota sports car and most people who can afford a BMW sports car probably want more than a four cylinder-powered one for $56k-plus to start. They could buy one with a six – for $68,400. That’s what BMW is asking right now for the same thing Toyota is asking for a Supra with a six. There aren’t many people in a position to buy a an almost-$70k two seater BMW, either.

So, there’s the pricing (and branding) problem, which exacerbate the inherent problem all sports cars have, which is that they are impractical. They are basically motorcycles with a bit more storage; lots of fun but most people will need another vehicle for going to the store and picking stuff up. How many can afford the fun car and the practical car in this economy?

Not many. Last year, Toyota sold 2,953 Supras in the U.S. BMW sold even fewer (about 2,100).

Another problem was that for the first several years of production, both BMW and Toyota would only sell you an automatic-equipped Z4. The problem here is that most people who buy sports cars want to shift for themselves. Mazda’s Miata sports car is available with an automatic but by about two-thirds, Miata buyers stick with the standard six speed manual. Not because the manual can be shifted with greater precision and consistency but because it’s more fun to shift a manual transmission than it is to just sit there and push down on the accelerator pedal. It was a huge mistake for BMW and Toyota to deny buyers even the option to shift for themselves; it was a mistake Toyota fixed in 2023 and BMW fixed in 2025, when both put a manual on the roster as an option – but only with the six.

Why not with the four?

If anything, a sports car with a four is in more need of a manual – to make up for the lack of power. The same sports car with a six that has much more power is fun all-by-itself. The Mazda Miata has a not-especially-powerful four cylinder engine but it’s a lot of fun to drive because you can really work that engine – yourself – by shifting that six speed manual transmission. I remember test driving the Toyota Supra when it was new and also the Z4 (review is here) back in ’22 and ’23 and being disappointed by the  four cylinder/automatic experience. The much less expensive Miata and also the similar Toyota GR86, which is basically a Subaru BRZ are more fun to drive because they’re more involving to drive than the automatic-only versions of the Supra and Z4.

Also – sexist comment coming but there’s truth in it – four cylinder/automatic sports cars are chiefly for women. Check out who buys almost all automatic Miatas. Another way of saying this is that both BMW and Toyota turned off most potential male buyers of the more affordable, four cylinder -powered version of their sports cars and a lot of men who wanted the six with the stick when it finally became available couldn’t afford it.

The coroners report thus concludes the twins died from complications arising from a birth defect corrected too late, exacerbated by the wasting disease of just being too expensive (thanks to the bankers’ gyp) to be viable.

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26 COMMENTS

  1. “ The problem here is that most people who buy sports cars want to shift for themselves.”

    The inability here to separate facts from fiction is astounding.

    The reality is that even when a manual transmission is offered, the sales mix for manuals is less than 50% for most OEM’s inclusive of the Porsche 911, Boxter, Cayman, etc.

    I love manuals. Almost every car I own is a manual. But my personal beliefs and preferences don’t change the facts.

    The sad truth is most people don’t. The majority of drivers in the US can’t even drive a manual. Even the European market has moved away from manual transmissions due to demographics and urban traffic density.

      • The Miata is the exception not the rule. You of all people ought to know this.

        What about Porsche?

        You know darn well (or should) that less than 25% of the US driving population can drive a manual.

          • Uh huh. Do you hear yourself? Porsche 911 isn’t a true sports car, it’s a poseur car?

            Mustang?

            Corvette?

            Ferrari?

            I guess a Miata is the last sports car standing eh? I do agree it’s the last “affordable” sports car standing but even that is a bit debatable at $30k ish.

            Look, you and I both know this is a lot more complicated issue that ties into demographics and emissions regs.

            But to say that most sports car drivers want to shift for themselves just isn’t supported by the sales figures.

            Even the Dodge Viper was getting panned at the end for not offering an Auto as an option. Let that sink in.

            • Those cars have become old men’s cars, Barney –

              Because anything over $50k is almost by definition and old (or at least, middle-aged) man’s car.

              The Miata and the BRZ/GR86 are the last sports cars for men who don’t yet have an AARP card.

              The manual-only Viper was “panned” – by whom? Car journalist who can’t drive stick. Like Warren Brown (RIP) over at The Washington Post, who had to be taught (in middle age) how to drive stick so he could test drive manual-equipped sports cars.

              • Come on Eric – a pick-em up is $60k – $100k now. It’s not unreasonable for a sports car to be $50k.

                The devaluation of currency is what it is.

                Let’s face it. Millenials and Gen Z can’t drive manuals. What you or I want personally has no relevance to the young man’s market. This is the hardest part of being an automotive “expert” – separating your own feelings from the realities of the market.

                There were plenty of actual Viper owners at owners events that were asking for an Auto. Complaining it’s too hard to drive the manual in traffic given how heavy the clutch is.

                • Hi Barney,

                  A truck is useful. It can serve as a family vehicle and a work vehicle. A sports car is useless – except for fun. So it’s got to be affordable – so that the owner can afford a practical vehicle as the primary vehicle.

                  • You are being silly.

                    I had nothing but used 2 seat sports cars from the age of 20 until I was 30. Only car. Daily driven.

                    There was no need for me to have a 2nd car.

                    • No, Barney – you are making my point.

                      You “had nothing but used 2 seat sports cars from the age of 20 until I was 30. Only car. Daily driven.”

                      Right. You were a young guy, probably single and without kids. Very few young guys can afford a $50k sports car today. They might be able to afford a Miata – but if they have a family, they’re going to have to have another car because a Miata only has room for two people and almost nothing else.

        • “…less than 25% of the US driving population can drive a manual”

          I had to look at this.

          “Only 18 Percent Of Americans Can Drive Manual” – this is just quoting a U.S. News and World Report number.
          https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/report-only-18-percent-of-americans-can-drive-manual/

          “Most American Drivers Know How to Drive Stick” – this one says 66% can based on a Cadillac survey.
          https://www.kbb.com/car-news/survey-surprise-most-american-drivers-know-how-to-drive-stick/

          How Many Cars Can You Still Buy With a Stick Shift in 2026 – this more recent one says 60% can drive a stick.
          https://www.americanmuscle.com/stick-shift-cars.html

          I’d guess the manufacturer surveys are more reality-based than the U.S. News and World Report number. The manufacturers have a strong financial interest in being accurate, the news media obviously does not.

          There does seem to be an age gap in ability.

        • My 5 speed Cougar V6 winter car is an absolute blast to drive and a welcome change from the summer G37x auto, a completely different experience, cost me 10x more with twice the power but only half the fun to drive. I love long drives in the Infiniti but will NEVER let go of that Cougar.

  2. The reason BMW charges so much for its cars is trying to make up for the $710MM they spent on their BMW museum and auto-center in Munich back in 2007 (1.100B in today’s funny money). Gotta make the mortgage.

  3. In the days of big, lazy V8s like the one that casually sprawls under the hood of Eric’s Trans Am in its serene blueness, conventional wisdom among ‘car buffs’ (now as extinct as dapper flâneurs roaming the streets of Paris) was ‘Six in a row don’t go!‘

    In the 1964½ Ford Mustang, its standard engine was a 170 cubic-inch (2.8-liter) Thriftpower [sic] inline six producing a puny 101 horsepower, barely enough to even turn the fan and the alternator, much less to spin its skinny rear wheels.

    Sixty years on, with 2.0-liter fours powering nearly every insipid automotive appliance, a 3.0-liter inline six is an exotic object of desire. Dodge’s High Output (HO) Hurricane Six engine in the Charger produces 550 horsepower, five and half times the output of the Mustang’s wheezing pushrod six of sixty years ago.

    After Donnie Faceplant crashes the Bubble, I’ll be on the lookout for a BMW Z3 with a 2.8 or 3.0-liter inline six and a manual transmission. ‘Will one hundred dollahs cash purchase this fine automobile?’ I’ll ask the desperate, hollow-eyed owner, as his hungry children cry, ‘SELL, DADDY, SELL!’ Image:

    https://tinyurl.com/4byah9ax

    Thriftpower ain’t what it used to be, folks. 🙁

    • Why’d these cars fail???
      Price is always king, but no rear seat has to factor in significantly.

      It don’t need to be big seats, but even Porsche has them, virtually all their vehicles.

      And anything german, as nice as it is, always gets more expensive as it ages…

      The real question to ask, is how did they last this long?

      Oy Vey!!!
      YMMV….

  4. The older Supra had the great 2JZ straight six. The BMW B58 straight six is even more renowned. It is sad to see either the Supra or the z4 go, but they are dinosaurs in a world where the middle class is facing rapidly declining purchasing power.

    Both of them were built at the Steyr/Magna plant in Austria that also built the Jaguar E-pace. That plant was supposed to be some kind of auto-manufacturing city that could rapidly switch product lines, with all those Austrian and German Mittelstand manufacturers providing parts and talent. They also fed Audi in Ingolstadt, Porsche in Stuttgart and BMW in Munich. Now all the design work will go to Asia and all that engineering know how will die out.

    The really sad thing is that this slow death is part and parcel of the war against Russia. Germany had massive manufacturing investments in Russia in automotive and rail branches. They were even assembling BMW in Kaliningrad/Königsberg and all it was blown up along with the Nordstream. It was a death sentence and it was deliberate.

    • Concur! Rename the abandoned Steyr/Magna plant the ‘Biden Works,’ after the author of its destruction. Maybe convert it to a daycare center for transgender orphans or some such.

      ‘We tortured bankrupted some folks.’ 🙁 — Barky Obama

    • I’m waiting to see what happens to KTM, which was in Austria as well. They are/were arguably the best ‘off-road’ dirt bikes, with innovation and excellence for 20yrs.
      But they got caught with their hubris, demanding that they sell as many bikes as they did during covid. Everyone knew there would be a huge bubble in motorcycles after covid. Ktm bosses wouldn’t listen to their salespeople/Reg Mngrs (I know). They went bankrupt and are now owned by an Indian company Bajaj. We’ll see what they do or don’t do with KTM.

  5. These cars, though wonderful, are, like motorcycles, a discretionary purchase; they’re purchased for fun, not practicality. Well, discretionary purchases require discretionary income-something that’s in increasingly short supply. Men simply don’t have the money to buy these cars nowadays. For me, it’s just that simple.

    With the way the economy is going, if I had $50K-$60K extra laying around, I’d buy gold and silver with that money. Why? Because gold and silver have never gone to zero, and with the increasing devaluation of our money, will be good to have in the days to come.

  6. Compare these two to the Datsun 240Z.

    It was up-market from the MG/Triumph/Fiat/VW914/Celica but, was within range of young men who wanted that 6. An MG Midget was ~$3k and the Z was $3500. It wasn’t a big leap in price. Compare that with a Miata that starts at $30,700. The BMW/Toyota is roughly TWICE as much.

    I’ve been out of the job market for a while now but, that seems a bridge too far for most starting their careers.

    Let’s talk about marketing. If you see many car ads very rarely will you see a White Man driving. More often it’s a woman of a dusky hue. Granted, this is true of most all advertising except Men’s products…ooops…Gillette tried to get us to buy razors for our trans kids…so much for that angle.

    Throw in the relentless environmentalist messaging that caters to women and castrates men and…well…goodbye Supra/Z4.

    • In my first corporate job at age 22, my office mate was a kid from Buffalo who owned a 240Z — before he started pulling down the big bucks with his LeviaCorp salary.

      Yeah, he bought that Z-car as a college kid working part-time jobs. And he just went on and on about it, till my eyes glazed over.

      That Z-car was his personal legend, his baby, his sleek raison d’être!

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