And so it Begins…

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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York lawmakers agreed to pass the toughest gun control law in the nation and the first since the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, calling for a tougher assault weapons ban and provisions to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill who make threats.

“This is a scourge on society,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday night, six days after making gun control a centerpiece of his progressive agenda in his State of the State address. The bipartisan effort was fueled by the Newton tragedy that took the lives of 20 first graders and six educators. “At what point do you say, ‘No more innocent loss of life’?”

The measure also calls for restrictions on ammunition and the sale of guns. It is expected to pass Tuesday.

“This is not about taking anyone’s rights away,” said Sen. Jeffrey Klein, a Bronx Democrat. “It’s about a safe society … today we are setting the mark for the rest of the county to do what’s right.”

Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two “military rifle” features. The proposal would reduce that to one feature and include the popular pistol grip.

Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family would be subject to a background check through a dealer. Also Internet sales of assault weapons would be banned, and failing to safely store a weapon could be subject to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.

In another provision, a therapist who believes a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally would be required to report it to a mental health director who would have to notify the state. A patient’s gun could be taken from him or her.

The legislation also increases sentences for gun crimes including the shooting of a first responder that Cuomo called the “Webster provision.” Last month in the western New York town of Webster, two firefighters were killed after responding to a fire set by the shooter, who eventually killed himself.

The measure passed the Senate 43-18 on the strength of support from Democrats, many of whom previously sponsored bills that were once blocked by Republicans. The Democrat-led Assembly gaveled out before midnight and planned to take the issue up at 10 a.m. Tuesday. It is expected to pass easily.

The governor confirmed the proposal, previously worked out in closed session, also would mandate a police registry of assault weapons, grandfathering in assault weapons already in private hands.

It was agreed upon exactly a month since the Sandy Hook Elementary School tragedy.

“It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment,” said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island.

Cuomo said he wanted quick action to avoid a run on assault weapons and ammunition as he tries to address what he estimates is about 1 million assault weapons in New York state.

Republican Sen. Greg Ball called that political opportunism in a rare criticism of the popular and powerful governor seen by his supporters as a possible candidate for president in 2016.

“We haven’t saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president,” said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. “We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. … We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals.”

In the gun debate, one concern for New York is its major gun manufacturer upstate.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve when the two firefighters were slain in Webster. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

The bill would be the first test of the new coalition in control of the Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control “has the intensity of the gay marriage issue.” In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.


  1. The only thing missing from Cuomo’s “state of the state” speech was an adoring crowd wildly yelling “seig heil” at the end

  2. “They are coming for your guns. And your social security too. Watch out!!!” – That was basically the message on a union building’s marquee today. I was surprised by it. Not all liberals hate guns and other People, I guess?

    Liberals Are NOT Gun-Haters

    Or maybe not?

    When does the MSM start using the word militant and separatist to describe americans? After or before the out-in-the-open war starts? You know, the war to turn the unitedstate into iraq. That’s their plan, isn’t it?

    Globalization means the unitedstate has to be just like iraq? That is where the progressives are progressing towards, with the help of the republicans, no doubt.

  3. Be Who You Are
    George Carlin-Charlie Chaplin-David Icke-Jiddu Krisnhamurthi-Bashar-Howard Beale – Pedagogy of Interiority.

    Carl Jung – Anima & Animus
    The Anima is a man’s dreams & personification of all feminine psychological tendencies in his psyche. The Animus is the archetype of reason and spirit in women, it is the male aspect of the female psyche.

    Where did it all begin? The twisted monisms of our enforced intertwined incorrect oneness.

    Men dressed like women. Men made to shave their face like women. Men made to wash and groom like women. Men made soft and assigned chores like women. Men made to walk three steps behind officials in deference like women. Men made to comply with mothers, women babysitters, women teachers. Men made to hold their tongue like women. Men made to sit and reason all day like women. Men learning to admire men in makeup in a flickering box. Men learning to admire men who preen and pose like women. Men made to seek the approval of women.

    Men forbidden to fight like men. Men forbidden to hunt like men. Men forced to compete with women. Men forced to obey the same rules as women. Men taught to desire feminine order. Men made to eat the food of women. Men taught their feminine ways are an evolution above men of other species. Men taught to be proud of their superior femininity over other species.

    Women left all alone without men. Women forced to compensate for the lack of men. Women taught to admire men who act like women. Women never instructed in the ways of women. Women who never individuate from masculinized women.

    Women left to despair without men to comfort them. Women looking to machines and enslaved men to provide for them. Women taught to discard their womanhood. Woman made to pretend they are without cycles and vulnerable times because they are women. Women made to become men to be accepted by other women.

    Women loathe to bring newborn life into a world without natural men and women.

  4. Has anyone contacted Remington to see if they’ll jump ship out of that god damned state? Montana? Idaho? Wyoming?… Texas for chrissakes!?

    • Now that’s a fine idea MoT!

      We have several excellent weapons makers here already.

      C’mon down boys, the water’s fine!

  5. The Androgynous(Hermaphroditic) Agenda:

    Remember when consumer goods were masculine? Now they’re androgynous. Remember cars that weren’t hermaphrodites on wheels?

    When tasers, sprays, and push button cellular smart pistols weren’t the only weapons it was legal to possess?(coming soon)

    The Androgynous (Hermaphroditic) Agenda

    Cutting Thru The Matrix

  6. What difference does how many rounds in a magazine for the advertised purpose make anyway? Are the well conditioned people in these no-gun zones going to rush the shooter when he pops one out and puts another in? Of course not. So it makes no difference how many rounds it holds. One of these killers could come in with a bolt action rifle or an old Winchester… hell a friggin muzzle loader and still kill because the victims just sit there to be shot and the cops sit outside and wait until everything goes quiet. One shot. Seven shots. 300 round drum. Makes no difference with regard to a victim of the pharmaceutical establishment flipping out and becoming violent. Hell… if they think they can’t reload fast enough they’ll just strap on another gun or three to make up for it. It’s not like they need unencumbered mobility.

    The focus on magazines has to be for one thing and one thing only, keeping the weapons vastly inferior to what the military uses. Because that is where needing to reload frequently would make a big difference. Such a law doesn’t make any difference worth a damn with regard to criminals and mass shooters.

  7. “it protects the 2nd Amendment”???
    What part of “shall not be infringed” do they not understand? That means NO interference, zero, zip, nada!
    It is the government that has no rights, except what has been delegated to them.

    • The law is not meant to protect the Constituion, the Constitution is meant to protect us from govt laws.

      Shows you just how out of touch these people are. They wouldn’t have a clue to the purpose or the intent of the Constitution if it hit them upside the head.

      Probably failed high school civics.

  8. Hello, Libertarian Tech Support, this is Allahrakka…..Did you try turning your government off and then back on again? Still no freedom????? Then you should jump on the nearest train and dance your way out of there right away! Thank you, come again.

  9. What’s that line about how nothing is true until it’s been officially denied?

    “This is not about taking anyone’s rights away,” said Sen. Jeffrey Klein, a Bronx Democrat.

    A bit of a comment that goes with it all:

    Pick a right, any right, and insert the current insanity:

    “I demand that my right of free speech be licensed by the government.”

    “I demand that the state pick a religion, endorse it, regulate it, and ban all others.”

    “I demand that dwellings conforming with state definitions may be entered by police at any time for any purpose without warrant or cause.”

    “I demand that I be compelled to incriminate myself if I match state criteria.”

    “I demand that the right to trial be suspended if the suspect meets certain criteria.”

    “I demand that the right to be secure in my person be suspended if I meet certain state criteria.”

    “I demand that the right to live life itself be suspended if the suspect meets certain state criteria.”


    The Nazis were democratically elected, too. This is what the boot-lickers, with their “imaginary Hitler” memes hope the electorate overlooks on their way to slavery – all “Hitlers” are imaginary, right up until the moment they’re not.

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