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Is it Enough? Is it in Time?

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It appears Dodge – Stellantis – is cutting bait on the Charger device. At least, the “entry level” R/T iteration of the device. That’s the one that has a base price of only $57,995. It will be discontinued, according to reports, because not many are taking the bait

What a surprise.

The now-former CEO of Stellantis – Carlos Tavares – thought the best way to stem the losses incurred buying “carbon credits” from Elon Musk’s Tesla grift in (order to atone for the sin of manufacturing Chargers and Challengers with engines) was to make devices that looked like Chargers with electric batteries and motors and thereby no longer have to buy those “credits” from Elon.

The problem is the losses incurred have been even greater – because almost no one wants to buy a device that looks like a Charger, even if it looks great. 

Because looks aren’t everything. Ask anyone. You might spend a little time with a really good-looker, but not longer than it takes. Because even really good looks cannot cover up what’s ugly inside. It is astounding that Tavares – that anyone who rises to a position of executive authority at a major vehicle manufacturer – could not see this. Did not understand this. Did he really think people who bought Chargers and Challengers would buy devices just because they looked like Chargers and Challengers?

In Japan, there is reportedly the phenomenon of the lonely man who gets himself a virtual girlfriend. “She” isn’t real but makes him feel not alone. Maybe that’s what Tavares thought he could sell to guys – and it is mostly guys who revere the Charger and Challenger.

Looks. Fakeness.

Exactly the right word to describe the ersatz engine-revving sounds emanating from the Charger device’s “Fratzonic” amplifiers. At least the lonely Japanese businessman keeps his fake girlfriend to himself. The man who buys a Charger device buys himself 5,698 lbs. of public embarrassment. That is the curb weight of the R/T device Tavares thought would sell to guys who like their girlfriends  – and vehicles – to be real. And for nearly twice the price of the last Charger that wasn’t a device.

Unsurprisingly, it has not sold – and that is putting it softly. Devices made for the 2024 model year – now almost six months in the rearview – have not sold and because they are already last year’s models, the only way they will ever sell this year (or next) is by deeply discounting them, so as to get rid of them.

There are some great deals to be had on 2024 Chargers. The ’25s, too.

Dodge says the cancellation of the R/T iteration of the device that looks like a Charger is not due to the fact that almost no one’s buying:

“Production of the Dodge Charger Daytona R/T is postponed for the 2026 model year as we continue to assess the effects of U.S. tariff policies.” Except Trump’s tariffs – which only became an issue about two months ago – had no bearing on the lack of sales last year, when Trump wasn’t even president. Trump can be faulted for a number of things he’s done so far – including the enforcement of so-called REAL ID requirements – but he cannot be faulted for the poor sales performance of the 2024 Charger devices.

Unfortunately, Stellantis appears to not understand what the problem is – and so how to remedy it. “The Charger’s flexible, multi-energy STLA Large platform allows us to focus on the Charger Daytona Scat Pack’s performance as the world’s quickest and most powerful muscle car.”

Full skid stop.

No matter how quick a device is, a device can never be a muscle car. It is absurd. The essential element – a V8 engine – is missing. Both words are italicized to drive home the point. If quickness defined a muscle car, then a Tesla S Plaid is a muscle car. It is – by far – quicker than any V8 muscle car. Its 0-60 capabilities (3 seconds or less) make a 1970 426 Hemi-powered Charger seem slow. But which of the two is a muscle car?

Everyone knows this – except apparently those running Dodge. Evidence of this being the fact that the so-called Scat Pack iteration of the Charger device – an even more expensive version of the device – will still be made. This is a gross abuse of the Scat Pack’s meaning. It has – up to now – always meant a higher-performance version of a Dodge muscle car. But this device is no more a muscle car than a Vietnamese ladyboy is a lady.

Most guys aren’t interested in that. No matter how good “she” looks.

Looks are important. So also quickness. But without the sounds and sensations that only a big American V8 makes, what you have is a performance car. It might even be a very good-looking one. But it is no more a muscle car than a man who looks convincingly like a woman is one.

What’s under the hood – so to speak – is the defining thing.

This also goes for the 3.0 liter Hurricane inline six that Dodge plans to offer in the Charger. It is a fine engine. It is a stronger engine that the V8 that used to be what powered the Charger and Challenger R/Ts. It is probable that the Charger shell that is very good looking will be even quicker than the Charger that got cancelled by Tavares after the 2023 model year when that high-powered six is installed in lieu of a battery pack and motors.

But – and this is really important, Stellantis – a 3.0 liter inline six is not a V8 and no matter how well it performs, a Charger so equipped will never be a muscle car. So – please – stop using that word to describe the thing. It does not mean what you think it means (Princess Bride reference). What matters is that people who like the Charger and Challenger know what it means and will not accept anything less than a V8 as a muscle car’s powerplant.

The sounds – real ones – and the sensations that a six is designed not to produce. The whole point of the inline-six configuration being smoothness. Normally, this is desirable. Except when it comes to muscle cars. They’re supposed to shake. It was a desired feature. The most desirable classic Dodge muscle cars literally had Shaker scoops. A six does not shake. It is not supposed to. And it will never sound like a V8, either.

So, if Dodge wants to sell muscle cars, it ought to start making them again. And it ought to challenge the insufferable extortion that is the “carbon credits” regime. That will of course require challenging the “climate change” lie that is at the root of why the Charger was transformed into a device.

Is Stellantis – now under new management – up to the challenge?

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22 COMMENTS

  1. Eric – I’ll gladly drive a 1960’s Plymouth with a 225 slant six and a three speed manual before I pay the price for an electric Charger look-a-like.

    How embarrassing to drive a Duracell car with fake engine noises. Nothing screams “I need to start testosterone therapy” more than owning one of these.

    Anon

  2. ‘This [‘Charger’] device is no more a muscle car than a Vietnamese ladyboy is a lady. Most guys aren’t interested in that. No matter how good “she” looks.’ — eric

    Once I took a stroll round the idyllic campus of Smith College in Northampton, Mass. Just wanted to walk the paths trod by one of my personal heroines, Margaret Mitchell, who dropped out in 1919 and went on to write Gone With the Wind.

    But things have changed:

    ‘Dr. Rachel Levine (formerly Richard Levine), a man pretending to be a woman, is being awarded an honorary degree by Smith College in Massachusetts. Keep in mind, Smith College is an historic private women’s college.’

    https://x.com/KDansky/status/1924085173424914644

    Obviously, Margaret Mitchell had a good head on her shoulders to bail out of this lunatic New England yankee freak show:

    ‘An average student at Smith College, Mitchell did not excel in any area of academics. She held a low estimation of her writing abilities. Even though her English professor had praised her work, she felt the praise was undue. After finishing her freshman year at Smith, Mitchell returned to Atlanta to take over the household for her father and never returned to college.’ — Wikipedia

    School’s out for summer (detention)
    School’s out forever
    School’s out with fever
    School’s out completely

    — Alice Cooper, School’s Out

  3. To be crude about it. A not very attractive intimate partner is better than anything battery powered…just sayin’…

      • Eh, Carlito Tavares is Portuguese, edumacated in France.

        We don’t need no EeeVee credits
        We don’t need no thought control
        No dark sarcasm in the boardroom
        Carlos, leave them cars alone
        Hey! Carlos! Leave them cars alone!

        — Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall

    • Just more propaganda from GM.

      Per the article:

      GM once supported California’s 2035 EV target.

      “GM believes in customer choice, and we continue to focus on offering the best and broadest portfolio of vehicles on the market,” the spokeswoman said.

      BS

      Both statements cannot be true. Just more Orwellian doublespeak.

      GM supports what they think is good for GM. At one point they thought they and GovCo could force customers to buy that which they don’t want and cannot afford via mandates.

      Now that they realize that Washington can’t force people to buy what they cannot afford, GM has changed its mind.

      Well no. Screw that. Don’t buy new.

      Don’t support those that were actively working WITH government to suppress your freedom of choice. Never forget that these OEMs were in full support of mandatory jabs with an experimental, unproven, “vaccine”.

    • Maybe the accountants went to Mary and mentioned her $30 million annual salary was in trouble. I think Ford, Stellantis, and GM honestly believed that government would bail them out if EV sales took a hit. Now, Trump has imposed tariffs and the car industry is implementing lay offs. The “trendy” people are cash strapped and those that have the money refuse to purchase the garbage sitting on the dealer lots.

      Maybe the Board of Directors should have listened to their guts and not have been persuaded by pretty promises on their survival if the market tanked.

      No one is coming to rescue any of us…and that includes you GM.

      • ‘No one is coming to rescue any of us’ — Raider Girl

        It is too late for that. The Conference Board’s index of leading economic indicators has fallen below its 2020 pandemic low, and is back to its level of 2016. Chart:

        https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/bfm4DD5_0.jpg?itok=5iT4V6hG

        The US economy is in recession; right here, right now. GM, Ford and Stellantis are gonna get crushed like bugs hitting my windshield.

        Sometimes you’re the windshield
        Sometimes you’re the bug
        Everything can change in the blink of an eye
        So let the good times roll before we say goodbye

        — Mary Chapin Carpenter, The Bug

        • Hi Jim,

          I don’t feel bad for the Board of Directors, corporate officers, and middle management that made these horrible decisions. I do feel bad for the factory workers, the engineers, the auto mechanics, the multiple companies that supply the auto parts, and yes, even the dealerships. They had no say in these decisions being made. Top Management lied down with the devil and then they are surprised when they find themselves in Hell.

          These idiot businesses believe they are untouchable, governments believe they are untouchable, and people believe they are untouchable. Sometimes it takes an earthquake or an avalanche to realize we are all easily replaceable.

  4. Eric: “Except when it comes to muscle cars. They’re supposed to shake. It was a desired feature. ”

    I still remember how you could almost make a milkshake at idle in my ’48 Ford with a nasty cam and a light flywheel. Even a dweeb like me could strike terror (and even some envy) in the hearts of the cool guys.

    But I sure wish I could find the guy with the Pontiac tri-power, which was my only defeat, and explain that my parking brake was on.🫤 We did the “let’s see what ya got” pre-race and followed the pre-planned escape route. I never saw him again.

    • Neighbor kid saved his money and got a Mopar Hemi something crate motor for his ancient Dodge pickup, what a sleeper monster!

  5. Back it up to the product planning and who decided that the first EV should be an AWD coupe?
    In what universe are sedans, much less two-doors, selling!?
    The Camaro and Challenger get the axe, leaving the Ford with the entire pony-car segment dumped in their lap and what happens?
    Mustang sales are “meh” at best.

    IMO, since this platform is also shared with the Wagoneer EV, its (at least initially) configuration should have been a 5 door – like the departed Dodge Magnum.
    Some of the EV lunatics would have at least given it a look.
    How many people (that don’t normally buy Bentleys) are in the market for a 3 ton coupe?
    And now 2025 is nearly half over and there’s still NO ICE version available – which was supposed to be the case from the original rollout (EV in ’24 and ICE in ’25.)
    You’d have to have your head examined to buy the first year or two of an all-new platform for ANY MANUFACTURER – much less one with Stellantis’ decades long battle with long term quality.
    Complete failure on multiple levels.

  6. ‘The man who buys a Charger device buys himself 5,698 lbs. of public embarrassment.’ — eric

    Great tagline! We know some adipophiliacs are out there. Formerly they pursued their furtive kink in mom’s dank basement. It’s a sign of our degraded times that they now boldly venture out in broad daylight.

    Dodge doesn’t quite get how to appeal to this niche demographic. The Charger device needs a Bad-ass Barbie trim package with pink wheels, a pink brassiere on the front, acres of random fake green tats on the body, and a big Hello Kitty graphic on the hood frunk.

    And a personal assistant that barks over the 17-speaker sound system, ‘Now I’m going to sit on your face, you miserable worm.’

  7. “The biggest problem Dodge has is that the people who run it are not “car” people” Landru

    Exactly

    Speaking of placing blame where it belongs.

    Where is little Timmy Cuntniskis? Let’s not forget how was in charge of cresting the new Charger device and trying to hock it as if it wasn’t fake and gay.

    Oh yeah, they put him in charge of RAM for a job well done.

  8. Nowadays, any new ICE vehicle should be revered, to a certain point… especially affordable muscle cars!!!
    Especially since it’s been revealed that our (((overlords))) particularly don’t want us to have them at all, before we’re headed into 15 minute city for our scheduled death and destruction!!!

  9. The biggest problem Dodge has is that the people who run it are not “car” people; they are professional managers. Their attitudes might work for a company that sells blenders or toasters. I might like my toaster but I probably won’t cry if it gets scratched; my car on the other hand….

    Car people tend to have an emotional bond at some level with their cars. Non car people don’t and it’s pretty obvious who has destroyed the car companies that people felt good about.

    Case in point: I’m sure that some people have Chevy tattoo’s but I doubt many have Tesla tattoo’s.

    • Funny that you mention that…..I saw a jackass rocking a large, glaringly obvious Tesla tattoo wandering around the Aquarius in Laughlin, NV yesterday. Being as I have (much smaller) Kenworth and Caterpillar emblems worked into my left sleeve, I cannot judge on the tattoo alone……but I will assuredly judge on the Tesla logo and what it represents.

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