Things are not looking up for Tesla. Sales of its devices in the U.S. are down almost 14 percent – the largest drop so far.
In Europe it is much worse than that.
Some attribute this plummeting of interest to rich Leftists shunning Tesla because of CEO Elon Musk’s snuggling up to President Trump and there is truth in that. But it is also something more than that.
Sales of devices – all of them, not just those manufactured by Tesla – are wilting. A peak of about 8 percent nationally was reached about a year ago, with the great bulk of that 8 percent being concentrated in ultra-blue urban areas of California such as Los Angeles and San Francisco. Outside of those areas, EV “penetration” – this is the word often used – is about 3 percent of all new vehicle registrations.
It appears the situation is analogous to the high water mark achieved by the Germans during the apogee of the Battle of the Bulge in December, 1944. An initial rapid advance that stalled out once the realities set in. The Germans lacked the strength-in-depth (and the air cover) to continue their advance or even hold the line. By January, they had retreated back to where they’d started.
It is not that bad – yet – for devices but it may soon be. Similar realities assure this.
Despite increased range, most EVs still do not go very far – especially with their standard batteries. The italics are to mark one of the many truths about EVs that were initially very successfully suppressed. Most EVs do not come standard with much range; about 250 miles on a full charge being typical. This is about a third less range than you’d have with almost any gas-engined vehicle, even the gas-hoggiest ones. (Case in point: The final-year Dodge Challenger Hellcat, equipped with the supercharged V8, still had a highway driving range of 407 miles.)
To get more than 300 miles of driving range out of most EVs in the under $50,000 segment, you generally have to spend several thousand dollars more to get the higher-capacity battery. This is almost like charging people extra for tires in that the EV without the extra-cost battery is almost useless as a vehicle due to its limited driving range.
The second reality that eventually suppurated to the surface is that even with the extra-capacity battery, owning an EV means having to constantly think about and plan around the time it takes to charge up.
Which brings us to a related truth suppressed about that.
People were led to believe that they could charge an EV in as little as 15-20 minutes at what they were encouraged to think of as “fast” chargers. What they were not told – and what many quickly found out – was that while it’s possible to partially charge an EV at the so-called “fast” charger in 15-20 minutes, it is not possible to fully charge it in that time or anything close to that time.
Eighty percent charged is the most charge you can get “fast” – and that means you either leave after 15-20 minutes with 20 percent less charge than full or you sit and wait for much longer than 15-20 minutes to get the remaining 20 percent at the slow-charge rate (necessary to reduce fire risk and damage to the battery – another truth that they tried to suppress).
In other words, the problem of short range is compounded by even less range – meaning you’ll have to stop and wait for a charge again, sooner – assuming you didn’t want to wait an hour or more to get the full charge.
If you had a theoretical full-charged driving range of 250 miles, 80 percent of that would be about 200 miles before you’d have to wait for a charge, again – and it’s actually less (and sooner) than that because it is common for an EV’s actual real-world driving range to be 10-20 percent less than indicated. This is compounded (again) by the fact that if you want to reduce the risk of running out of charge before you get to the place to charge, it is a good idea to always have at least 10 percent charge in reserve – because that it’s risky to run an EV down to “fumes,” as you might with a gas-powered car, because when you run out of charge far away from a place to plug your device in for a charge, it is difficult to bring a jerry can of charge back to your bricked device.
You will probably have to have the your device towed to where it can be charged.
People were also not told up front that if they used the AC when it was hot – or the heat when it was cold – their device’s batteries would rapidly deplete.
The reason Tesla seemed so unstoppable at first is arguably because these realities had not yet set in; they had not yet percolated into general awareness. All mist people knew was what they had been told. Kind of like what they were told about “COVID.”
The initial surge was a kind of mania fueled by falsehoods – by the deliberate suppression of realities. People were not told the full truth about devices. They were encouraged to believe devices were so much better than vehicles with engines. The latter were relentlessly deprecated as latter-day horse-driven carriages in relation to the new Model T, the EV. If you wanted to not be seen as a fuddy-duddy or even a Luddite, you were given to understand it was the thing to do to buy an EV. Having one was a mark of distinction; it showed you were “hip” and “with it” and by implication everyone else wasn’t.
Then reality bit.
People stopped buying. Some of them for political reasons. But most for altogether sensible reasons. People in general want to get where they need to be – not waiting somewhere in between. The whole point of owning a vehicle vs. say waiting for a bus is to not have to wait. To be able to just go – and to get there sooner rather than later.
EVs are objectively inferior as transportation – the most basic thing people buy a vehicle to get. The whole push (literally) to trick people into accepting a vehicle that doesn’t do that very well by touting such things as how quickly it can get to 60 and such other things that are beside the point is just that. A trick.
A dirty one.
Elon, of course, is smart enough to have already moved on to his next trick. The name of that game is making the federal government more efficient; i.e., better at doing what government does, using AI rather than low-IQ government drones.
Hopefully the truth about that will get out before it’s too late.
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ZeroHedge had an interesting post this morning about Jaguar. Not necessarily about their EV crap, but likely because of the cast of wierdos they’re using for in their ad copy to promote the brand:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/jaguar-sales-plummet-975-after-awful-theythem-rebrand
Seems as though their sales fell 97% in April year-over-year from 2024. Oh well, go woke, broke – hahaha
I recently walked by a Tesla sitting parked in the sun on a 90 degree day with 65% humidity (feels like 105 or sumpin’) and the a/c cooling system for the batteries (I assume as it was parked with no one in it) was going gangbusters. The volume of the sound surprised me. That’s clearly draining battery power in a material way just sitting there.
Pity I didn’t think of this earlier, but that meme at the top of this post was laughable (and not necessarily in a “Ha ha” way). Potential future conversation between EV manufacturers and the government:
EV manufacturers:”Why are EV sales going down? Could it be because people have wised up to what EVs are REALLY like?” Government: “Nah, it’s not because of that. It’s because of the Anti-EVers! We’ll help you sell more EVs by decreeing EV mandates for those who’ve refused to give up their gas vehicles for an EV.”
I just drove 1200 miles & then back.
You can do it (one way) inside of a day, if you have some energy/endurance & don’t stop very long/often, and some time to nap afterwards. About 3 tanks of gas will do it, so 3 very short stops plus one to fix a slight car top rack slippage issue (always carry a length of string — paracord, clothesline, bank line, anything — you’d be surprised what you can fix with that & a little ingenuity. Give it a couple extra wraps and it’ll hold at 75mph+ in a thunderstorm with crosswinds. Then you can make “proper” adjustments later, at your leisure.)
Can’t do that in an eeeeveee, though. Which is part of why I don’t really want one as a primary/only vehicle, even if I could afford one. Might be able to stop slightly less often in some hybrids, though…I’m not a huge hybrid fan personally, but I definitely see the appeal esp, from that standpoint. Counterpoint: when you’re pulling a stunt like that it is good to get out every so often & walk a little, stretch, if necessary jog or do some calisthenics to keep the blood flowing & stay alert.
Tesla is the best example I can think of which proves that with enough government subsidies and lots of marketing BS, even a turd can be turned into a diamond in the eyes of many.
Yet, as much as I dislike the guy, Elon truly has achieved some amazing things.
Who else has been able to extract tens of billions of dollars in taxpayers’ funds for close to two decades, to fund multiple ‘businesses’, all of them unprofitable, becoming ‘the world’s richest man’ in the process?
Who else has been able to lie and bullshit incessantly for that entire period, selling vaporware like ‘full FSD’, trips to Mars, the ‘amazing electric semi’ or ‘the Roadster’, without any consequences?
Who else owns & runs a loss-making company – when the billion-dollar ‘carbon credit’ subsidies are taken off its bottom line – that not only is worth more than all other, actually profitable auto makers combined, but whose share price goes UP on news of double-digit year-on-year sales declines?
Unlike many of his starry-eyed fanbois, I do not think Elon is a genius in the ‘inventor/creator’ sense. But he definitely is one in the area of grift and exaggeration. He has, after all, managed to keep the BS show of his afloat for much longer than anyone could realistically expect.
Which is also why I am convinced he is a deep state/deep swamp actor and essentially a protected ‘made’ man.
He thinks he’s a Steve Jobs (and so do a lot of people), but really he’s more of a P.T. Barnum.
Arguably, Steve Jobs might have been just another flim-flam man himself, if it weren’t for Steve Wozniak.
If P.T. Barnum, Charles Ponzi and Elmer Gantry had a kid he’d be Elon the Musk Rat.
“[M]ania fueled by falsehoods. . .” -EP
Nice succinct phrase. History is replete with them.
This is solid news. There are upwards of 25O million ICE cars still on the road. Even with the nonstop propaganda and tax advantages, EVs make up only a few million. They’ve probably reached market saturation. Those who wanted an EV have them. For the most part, I suspect many of the early adopters of EVs will not be repeat customers. Add in that Tesla has the largest market share and it looks bad for them.
Sadly, a fraction of a fraction, of mentally ill adherents still bitterly cling to the lies of climate alarmism. TPTB add another failed narrative to their long list and move on, unscathed and unaccountable. Next up, AI data centers and robo-cop murder drone factories everywhere, coming in hot. I’m sure Lone Skum will find a way to whet his beak on the grift to come. Tesla might think about merging with Palinter and forming the biggest, most beautiful business ever. Orangetard could trumpet it far and wide as the face of team America.
Pat yourself on the back and take a victory lap Eric, you deserve it. You’ve been instrumental in spreading the truth about this fake and gay grift from the start. May all the big corporations that took the side of the security state over their customers die screaming. No more bailouts, not now, not ever.
The purpose of EVs is to limit our mobility and ultimately control our mobility.
These devices can be remotely programmed fir nearly anything from restrictions on when and where you can drive to total surveillance of all your mobility including when and where you drive, how long you stayed and even photograph your activities inside and outside.
During the next Covid or whatever scam these things can be set to limit so far you can go and when.
If you thought the old odd/even gas days were bad, this will be orders of magnitude worse.
This is just another giant leap towards the long term stated goal of “ending Americans love affair with the automobile”.
Cars = Freedom = unacceptable to the elites.
We have an app for that.
It is gratifying however to see widespread rejection of these things.
Here is one major victory for our side.
I finally have a device that has the range I need, which is all damn day long. It is my newest sail fawn. I take it off the charger in the morning, use the device all day long, a lot of which is bluetooth or running the screen darn near all day long. It is awesome, for now. I know battery performance will degrade. Probably by this time next year, the battery will work well enough to get me to dinner time before needing a charge. Year after that, it will probably need a charge in the truck on the way home from work.
Last phone, only 1 more update before they would basically obsolete it. This phone has 5 years of updates, yay!, NOT! Why cant I replace an old battery and keep using this one for 10 years?
Im getting real tired of this digital subscription crap. I want devices that run as long as Hondas and Toyotas used to. My laptop just got obsoleted because the browser buttheads wont let my old laptop online anymore. I bet they are thinking that I will run out and buy a new pc and they are wrong. Dont need it. If I need one for work in the future, so be it, but for now, nah, one less spy device for me.
Hi J:
Have you considered switching it over too Ubuntu Mate LTS?
There is still some market reality, even in our screwed up economic system. The reality, all the people willing to buy electric now have them. There are no more buyers.
That is a big problem for automakers as they have many new electric models and no buyers for them. It’s saturated to a very bad degree, and billions wasted on developing these cars that nobody wants is now gone.
I couldn’t care less how far an electric vehicle will go on a battery, and No, I don’t trust so-called ‘jews’ with MY life.
I simply would never subject myself to being immersed in such powerful magnetic and electric fields for extended periods of time or any time for that matter. The effects of powerful magnetic, electric, and RF fields on cellular and biological systems are severely detrimental and this is not being discussed at all.
Add a 24/7 5G surveillance transmitter and endless networked RF sensors to fry what’s left of your brain (make sure you hold your ‘fone’ transmitter up to your head) and you’re all set.
If Tesla – the “golden child” of this electric future nightmare – isn’t selling, then who is?
How are these EV-device-only companies still afloat? As far as I can tell, the only “big name” that’s gone defunct so far is Fisker.
What’s the sales numbers for Polestar, Rivian (not counting Amazon vans), Lucid and VinFast? Triple digits?
Faraday Future still exists and they’ve sold a few dozen hand built devices. Scout Motors and the Amazon tiny truck are allegedly still coming. And then there’s the EV semi-truck company Nikola (whose CEO was pardoned by Orange Man because securities fraud isn’t a crime if you’re well connected….like Musk.)
How the hell does the math still work on ANY of these companies? Who continues to voluntarily dump money into this?
I’m surprised corporate media hasn’t concocted a narrative of “EV hesitancy” similar to the “Vaccine hesitancy” narrative they and the WHO were peddling just a few years ago to describe the collapse in sales of EVs. Could it be because they don’t get lots of money from the EV lobby like they do with the Big Pharma lobby?
Perhaps the corporate media realized that more serfs can be killed off with vaccines than EV’s? The precedent has been set for mandatory vaccines to go to school, and in some health care facilities. Also, you can squeeze more money out of a serf if he or she just ends up vaccine injured/maimed, and ends up as a patient-for-life. Such is far more financially beneficial than touting (in my own opinion) an “EV Hesitancy” line, although that may be in the wings should it be necessary one day in the future.
JohnB, it’s a psychosis, per Google AI:
“Psychological barriers to electric vehicle (EV) adoption include range anxiety, concerns about battery life and maintenance, and the perceived inconvenience of charging. These factors can lead to a feeling that EVs don’t meet a driver’s needs or lifestyle, even if the technology is improving.”
Did a highway trip last weekend an noticed a couple of Teslas driving significantly slower than the rest of the traffic.
I wondered — were running low on charge and had to go slower to make it to the next charging station?
Hi X,
That could be. Or perhaps the drivers were being spied on by the Teslas’ technology or maybe a malfunction with speed limiting technology that those Teslas were equipped with.
Thats common around here, X. From near sea level to seven thousand feet.Uphill a hundred twenty miles, bumper to bumper part way, in a hundred+degrees is bound to spark some range anxiety, even among adherents.
They generally seem to trundle along around the speed limit. To their credit they’ve always been in the right lane, the ones I’ve observed.
‘EVs are objectively inferior as transportation.’– eric
So what is gonna happen to Scout Motors, now that Agent Orange has jerked the rug out from under the $7,500 tax credit for purchasing a new EeeVee?
To put a finer point on it, is Volkswagen ready to wake up and smell the Kaffee?
The Lügenpresse has been observing radio silence since April. But as the economics of the project continue deteriorating in light of new US tariffs and loss of the EeeVee tax credit, the news can’t be good.
One set of pending victims is the people of South Carolina. Under the leadership of idiot RINO governor Henry McMaster (who bears a distinct resemblance to Graydon Carter), the state ‘invested’ [sic, LOL] over a billion Biden bucks in prepping the site and the buildings. DUH!
Oh well, maybe they can turn it into a daaaaaaata center to feed our new Nintendo Switch 2 consoles.
But wait, ol’ Lather’s productive you know
He produces the finest of sounds
Putting drumsticks on either side of his nose
Snorting the best licks in town
But that’s all over …
— Jefferson Airplane, Lather
The truth involving EVs may have gotten out over time, but there are still governments in this country and around the world that are trying to SHOVE EVs down the masses’ throats. There’ll need to massive shouts of “HELL NO!”, particularly if those authoritarian governments tell the masses they MUST get an EV if they wish to continue driving an automobile.
It’s astounding what these government sociopaths were able to get away with during COVID hysteria and how many people just bent the knee and complied with nonsensical COVID diktats, while people who saw through the narratives and stood up against the diktats were called all sorts of nasty names by people who thought they were in the right. For a while, it appeared that we may have a permanent medical tyranny state.
I know it was astonishing how many people listened to that crap, stayed home, wore masks and then took shots. The only thing that stopped that was Bidens flip, finally lifting the “emergency.” Its amazing how many listen to the government and its propaganda arm.
What’s scary is that to this day, there are people who STILL think those draconian COVID measures were about “Protecting Public Health” and that they “Saved lives”. The reality is, FAR MORE LIVES were destroyed than were “saved” by such nonsense as forcing kids to wear face diapers in school or forcing adults to take experimental “vaccines” so they could go to work or go to public places without wearing face diapers.
I know right it was the first time in my life that I found myself hearing all my family, friends and coworkers repeating the obvious (or so I thought) BS on tv and going. wait…what…dude. no! Two weeks to stop the spread cmon. You cannot seriously believe this crap. Oh wow. I might still still have ptsd.
Hi RS,
For a short time, I believed the narratives around COVID, particularly it being deadly after I got sick with something in March 2020. For the first day or two, I just felt like staying in bed all day and thought I might die, but after 5 days, I was back to my usual self and started “doing my own research”, which corporate media and public health “experts” implored us NOT to do. I also started watching the weekly program The Highwire a few months later and was astounded at all the LIES we’ve been told not just about COVID & face diapers, but also about health, vaccines, and other things.
But the whole “Essential/ Nonessential businesses and employees” thing never made any sense either, particularly when small businesses, gyms, and churches were ordered by government to close but large corporations, liquor stores, and grocery chains could stay open. Over time though, I realized that that nonsense was intentional to permanently close down small businesses and leave large corporations the only businesses left standing.
Hi RS,
I still get triggered by the sight of a “masker.” Not that I am afraid of them. I am infuriated – by what was done to them. To all of us, including people like us here who knew it was an evil, deliberate op to terrify people to get them to accept what most would otherwise never have tolerated. As long as I live, I will retain hate for those responsible, who took away so much joy and so much irreplaceable time from people, not to mention the economic chaos. I want to see those responsible hanged. I want to see their legs kicking as they slowly strangle. I want to watch them die. Because it is what they – and we – deserve. Until that happens, I will never forgive – much less forget.
Second that Eric,
Fauci, Birx, Daszek, et al need the Nuremberg treatment.
Stockades. I’ll bring the matches.
Agree. COVID was the crime of the century.
Indeed, but unfortunately, to this day, NO bureaucrat, politician, or “hospital worker” who’ve committed crimes or violated civil liberties has gone to prison. And as long as NONE of these criminals are held accountable, there’ll undoubtedly be efforts to do this crap all over again.
Eric wrote, “Not that I am afraid of them”.
You shouldn’t have to make such a qualifying statement. The problem is Marxists/Leftist/Wokesters/Statists respond to any objections as being based on fear or hate. There is no rational reason to oppose them, only irrational fear and hate.
This is why I read this site. Here is a man who says what he what he wants to say and doesn’t pull any punches.
“Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up… “
Thanks for the kind words, BaDnOn!
I suppose someone’s got to do it; may as well be me!
I think Tesla’s problems internationally are coming from China. The CCP told Elon if he wanted to sell Teslas in China he had to build a local factory and hire Chinese citizens to run it. Many of those Chinese citizens paid close attention to their craft and now work for BYD. BYD is the best known since they do a lot of exports to Europe, but there are probably 10 other startups in the EV game. The CCP has made automobile production a high priority for the country, and doubled down on EVs as the way to export markets.
One has to wonder just what was Elon thinking? Just looking at the upside of access to a billion-person market, never considering the downside of making deals with the communist devils.
You have to obtain facts about a substance, you have a better idea of what you are up against. You have to investigate how much energy is in a resource used for economic reasons, might as well find out so you know.
One metric ton of coal can produce 1927 kwh of electricity, readily available to be used for a purpose, coal can produce electricity to power an automobile to move distances.
Use the BTUs in coal to produce electricity so a battery can be charged. I charged a 12 volt battery yesterday and electricity provided the energy to charge the battery.
Anyhow, if you have a battery that has 75 kwh capacity, a metric ton of coal will charge the EV battery about (burning some wood) 25 times, 25 times 75 equals 1875 kwh. Good luck getting the 25 charges, line loss will cut into that number.
8,000,000 EVs will be consuming 8,000,000 tons of coal to charge each one of them with electricity 25 times.
A barrel of oil weighs close to 300 pounds, one barrel of oil has the BTU content to produce 578 kwh of electricity. Seven barrels will weigh 2100 pounds, 7×578=4046 kwh of electricity in a metric ton of oil, more than double than a metric ton of coal.
For comparison, one gallon of gasoline, has 130,000 BTUs.
To equal the number of kwh in a metric ton of coal, approximately 200 gallons of gasoline. 5000 miles at 25 mpg, how far you can go. 700 dollars in gas to go 5000 miles at 3.50 per gallon.
25 charges for an EV battery will take you 5000 miles at 200 miles per charge.
1927 kwh times 15 cents per kilowatt hour is 289 dollars.
Loss of electricity from power plant to receptacle outlet will be probably 50 percent, plus costs, it is going to be 22 dollars less than driving an ICE vehicle.
In addition to all of that, the aggravation and frustration of charging your EV to 80 percent has to be included.
Buy 200 gallons of gas in one year, you’ll be happy.
150 million cars in the US, as an example, 200 gallons per year for each one, 30,000,000,000 gallons of petrol for all of them.
It’s as easy as it looks.
30,000,000,000/42=714285714.286 barrels of oil needed. Call Exxon Mobil or Chevron, they know how to get you some.
They make it look easy, anyhow.
That’s a fact, Jack and facts don’t budge.
I will thank the search engine for the information.
A nuclear power grid would change that metric significantly. You’d still need to deal with the battery problems, but at least the electricity would be cheap and plentiful. Works great for naval vessels.
Imagine if the same reactors used by the navy were available for civilian use. Power cities with small reactors using high-enriched uranium, instead of the weak sauce that is used in today’s civilian plants. Lots of power available for transportation. Start with trains. Most diesel electric engines can be easily modified to run on electric tracks. Put the plants at distribution points along the rail network and get “free” locomotion for 25 years. I think even Mr Buffett can see the cost advantages of not having to manage fuel for your rail network.
In 1968, Union Carbide set up a rotary kiln and burned 50,000 tons of coal in my home state of North Dakota.
The rotary kiln deposited the coal ash that had rare earth metals in that ash. The ash was shipped to a lab and uranium was extracted from the coal ash.
Coal contains trace amounts of uranium, where it’s at.
Uraniferous soils in North Dakota out in the western sticks.
You have to mine the coal, need a dragline with a 300 foot boom to remove the overburden and reach the coal veins, labor pools, coal hauling trucks, they’re big machines, burn it at the plant, scrubbers in the smokestack, then you have to haul ashes.
A big job in the end, be thankful it’s all there at an affordable cost, the reason being the industrial scope exists, massive quantities of electricity out there.
Mongolia has coal, 95 percent of electricity generated there is from coal. Manitoba has water, 95 percent of Manitoba’s electricity is from hydroelectric.
Visit the inside of a hydroelectric plant inside a dam, those turbines are mega-sized.
I do agree, nuclear can make electricity penny cheap again.
The coal industry backed the greens when it came to nuclear power expansion in the 1970s. They knew how plentiful uranium is and didn’t want to compete with something so energy dense you only had to refuel every 18-20 months. So they attacked by promoting solar energy, knowing it was (is) a dead end and not a threat to the miners’ bottom line.
A generation of people have no idea how fantastic nuclear energy is despite it being in plain sight. Better to worry about the next Fukushima (a nearly impossible scenario in the US nuclear power system) because scarcity is more profitable than plenty.
The Chinese are leading the world into the future. As it says, this technology was abandoned in the U.S. in the 1950’s…because it couldn’t provide waste to make into bombs…
https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/05/01/1115957/old-new-nuclear-technology/
Good stuff RK and drump. As I studied Mech Engineering almost 40yrs ago, I came to the simple solution that nuke energy is the only answer. This was at the time they were changing the narrative from Global cooling to Global warming, then just climate change, haha.
As I grew up in industry and manufacturing, I came to the conclusion that mini-nukes or decentralized nukes was/is the only answer. Basically one in every county or larger towns.
Will we ever get there? IDK, but it seems there a lot of investment in such things lately.
‘Loss of electricity from power plant to receptacle outlet will be probably 50 percent’ — drumphish
Eh, it ain’t that bad:
‘Energy lost in transmission and distribution: About 6% –- 2% in transmission and 4% in distribution –- or 69 trillion BTUs in the U.S. in 2013.’
https://insideenergy.org/2015/11/06/lost-in-transmission-how-much-electricity-disappears-between-a-power-plant-and-your-plug/
But the song remains the same: EeeVees suck balls.
My Buckminster Fuller analysis:
Count the number of employees at each power plant, the number of pickup trucks back and forth each workday, then the gasoline consumed to go to work then back home again, by the millions.
You have to build roads, won’t get too far if there are no roads.
The manufacturing capacity to produce all of those vehicles, the total financing. Stellantis wants its pound of flesh, total it all.
Coal is used only because it can produce plenty of usable energy in the form of electricity. Coal is also usable energy for direct heat, both the same, less work to heat with electricity with coal as the energy source to produce electricity.
It takes a lot of energy, coal to electricity along with crude oil to make it happen, to manufactured products, Massey Ferguson’s machines represent an industrial base for agriculture. Massey Ferguson is dependent on oil to sell ICE machines, oil is there to make those tractors go. No oil, no go.
Then there’s the steel industry, uses coal to make molten iron.
Boeing is still going, still in business, albeit, mistakes are made. Was at 275 USD per share, now at about 130 USD.
A titanium bolt is as strong as steel and lighter, can’t rust, and is green in color. Alloys are just as strong and resistant to oxidation. The B-52H is still in the air.
A 737 is going to make it there. Jeppeson Routing is a science that is a system.
Does say it all, it works.
More than two percent, a pittance, six percent, maybe.
More like all of it. Satellites included, tune in to drop out.
You can even manufacture a war machine!
One thing to point out, the 350 pound Orange Buffoon in his cage, the room, whatever, it’s the war, stupid.
What a maroon.
EVs are just designer commuter cars. They can’t be one’s only source of transportation. So they are for those wealthy enough to afford two or more vehicles.
My wife and I share a car. I’ve thought about getting a golf cart so I can go out when my wife has the car. Where I live, I could use a golf cart year-round and get to the stores and restaurants and to the beach. But a golf cart can be over $10K. Oh well.
Hi Howard:
As long as they don’t have any regulations regarding fuel type or age I’d recommend buying an older one with a gasoline or propane powered engine. If it’s your in town runabout who cares what it looks like?
Agree….. I use a gas one, yamaha, and it’s been solid for 15-20yrs, and I think it’s 25-30rys old now (and lives outside). Some minor repairs I’ve done myself. When the kids got to around 8’ish, they and their friends abused the thing in the woods, rolled it over many times, etc…. I wasn’t mad at all, they learned valuable car (and life) handling skills and 15-20yrs later not a one of them has wrecked a car. Of course I made them fix it themselves, that was fun at 8-15yrs old. haha.
I picked mine up from a local golf course that replaces them every 5-10yr as they just rotate them as they get older with a ‘golf cart company’. I think they got $3’ishK for them, and I offered $3500’ish, don’t remember the actual numbers, sold.
So your claim is that the government is trying to push us to support something either by lying or not telling the whole story?
inconceivable.
Iraq, Kosovo, Ukraine, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran, WWI & II, vaccines, COVID. Surely the government was 100% honest about all these. /s/
Perhaps the next generation of EV’s will be built like locomotives? Diesel/Electric hybrid powertrains, if you can’t afford a new car now maybe an even more unaffordable car is the solution?
The EV manufacturers have already picked the low hanging fruit. This cohort is families who have a garage and a need for a second automobile that never has to drive further than about 25-30% of the official range. They need a garage because they want to charge the EV at night when they are at home, and this is also often when rates are lower.
This is also because in winter the batteries are far less efficient and in summer they need the air conditioning.
In Europe most people live in apartment buildings with underground parking. These buildings are not set up to provide separately metered high amperage electricity to each parking spot, and considering how often EV’s self ignite when charging this is probably a good thing. Besides, if a city block of apartments all decide to go EV, the Transformers would have to quadrupled or more in size, with new power lines, and quite possible new central transformers to feed all the larger transformers popping up around the apartment blocks.
In rural areas of both the US and Europe, a 50 mi range (in winter and summer) is insufficient to accomplish the usuals chores, and a longer, intercity trip becomes without having to recharge somewhere.
Another point that is often overlooked is that all charging stations do not charge the same rates. Rarely is charging at a power station as inexpensive as charging off peak at home, so when EV companies start blathering about how cheap electricity is, they are blowing hot air.
Finally, when Tesla first came out they were including free charging for a year or longer in the purchase price. Likely those days are over.
They also opened up their chargers to other vehicles.
About those chargers: When the “network” was being built out they placed them at locations that were likely points along interstates where people would need to recharge if they were traveling between major cities. So basically every 250 miles or so. If all the EVs have about the same range, that’s a great deal for Tesla. They already grabbed up all the best locations.
‘Then reality bit. People stopped buying.’ — eric
But EeeVee flacks gamely continue emitting their desperate appeals:
‘Peter Slowik of the International Council on Clean transportation said electric cars are better at translating energy into forward motion. For example, the most popular EVs in the U.S., the Tesla Model Y and the Tesla Model 3, can drive more than 100 miles (161 km) on energy equivalent to what is provided by a gallon of gasoline.
“If you compare that to a 25-mpg gasoline vehicle, that’s already four to five times more efficient,” Slowik said.’ — APe News
https://tinyurl.com/32zvmk96
We’ve been through this before: when fuel (natural gas, coal, etc) is burned at an electric power plant and transmitted over wires to the EeeVee charger, only about 40 percent of the energy content of the fuel is converted into electrons at the wall plug. Whereas for gasoline-fueled vehicles, the efficiency is about 30 percent.
Miles per gallon figures incorporate this 30 percent efficiency of converting fuel into motive power. Whereas the 100-plus MPGe figure cited by ‘Slovik’ excludes the 40 percent efficiency of the thermal power plant. That is, it is exaggerated by a factor of at least 2.5 times, by pretending that electricity is generated and delivered with 100 percent efficiency.
Claiming that EeeVees are four to five times more efficient than gasoline vehicles is a monstrous, absurd lie. But MSM stenographers don’t study thermodynamics, and don’t solicit quotes from those who have. Indeed, including the energy inputs of manufacturing baaaaaatteries,, EeeVees likely offer no advantage at all in overall energy consumption.
Parenthetically, note APe News’ irritating habit of converting US units to the metric system. I spent several years abroad in countries that use SI units, and am fully fluent in it. But in my own country, I don’t need innumerate, atechnical leftists with degrees in Black Studies and Art History hectoring me to use a foreign system of units. Say it loud, say it proud:
Death to the Lügenpresse.