The man who shot (and killed) the insurance mafia CEO is seen by some as a sympathetic figure. Perhaps because insurance mafia CEOs cut a very unsympathetic figure. He – the insurance mafia CEO – had it coming, some might say. This doesn’t mean Luigi didn’t commit murder. John Gotti did that when he took out “Big Paul” Castellano outside of Sparks Steak House in New York. Gotti was a thug, certainly – but so was Castellano.
Interestingly, Castellano liked to view himself as a businessman, a respectable guy. He was know not to get his own hands wet – so to speak. Others took care of that business. Are not insurance mafiosi bosses similar? They wear nice suits, too But are they not also mafiosi?
What defines a mafiosi? This was explained by young Michael Corleone, the son of Don Corleone in The Godfather. He explains to his fiancee how his father convinced a big band honcho to release Johnny Fontaine from a personal service contract he had him locked into. The Don, explains Michael, sent his enforcer – a hulking thug by the name of Luca Brasi – down to see this man who had Johnny Fontaine under contract. Luca Brasi put a gun to the man’s head and assured him that either his brains or his signature would be on the release placed in front of him.
Well, doesn’t insurance operate on essentially the same principle?
Oh, its been cleaned up so it looks less sordid, but it is also less honest with itself on account of that. Your are told – by the government – that you must buy what the mafia is selling and if you do not buy it, what happens? The government comes after you, just like Luca Brasi did. It has been mandatory to buy what is styled “health insurance” since the so-called Affordable Care Act was imposed back in 2010. It contained an “individual mandate” that imposed a tax penalty – to be collected by the IRS – if not complied with. One of the few things the Orange Fail can be credited with doing is taking the teeth out of the “individual mandate” beginning in 2019. However, many people are still getting threat letters from the IRS claiming they “owe” thousands in “shared responsibility” fines for failing to pay the insurance mafia during prior years (from 2014 – the date the ACA went into effect – through 2019, when the “shared responsibility” fines were rescinded).
Regardless, the fact remains that the health insurance mafia is exactly like the car insurance mafia in that both leveraged the government to force people to fork it over. That is strong-arm robbery by any reasonable understanding and almost everyone understands that everyone has a natural right to defend themselves when confronted by a strong-armed robber.
Both mafias are also guilty of making their “services” far more expensive than they would otherwise be. Health insurance is now the single most expensive thing most Americans pay for, after their rent/mortgages. Car insurance is not far behind – and catching up, rapidly. Is this surprising given both have enjoyed the power to coerce payments? The car insurance mafia continues to make offers we’re not allowed to refuse – assuming we want to avoid an assault by a Luca Brasi costumed as what is styled a “police officer.” These “officers” are in fact enforcers – just as Luca Brasi was – only they regard themselves as something else, which only testifies to the general dissonance of these “officers.” If you are found to be driving your vehicle on the government’s roads – stop it, please, with this stupid talk of “public” roads, as if you or I or anyone else owned them or had a right to use them – without the required insurance, the “officer” will at minimum hand you a piece of paper that says you “owe” the government a large some of money. Why? It is not restitution, since you’ve caused no one any harm. It is just another strong-armed robbery, only one done dissonantly and dishonestly. Luca Brasi just put a gun to your head. He knew he was an enforcer and wasn’t sick enough in the head to regard himself as some sort of “public servant” who was engaged in “keeping us safe.”
The “officer” may seize your vehicle – more strong arm robbery, is it not? It will then be “impounded” – that is to say, you will be compelled to ransom it, assuming you can afford to. More – compounding – strong armed robbery.
The government this “officer” works for as en enforcer will then revoke your privilege to use its roads. It will only restore these privileges after you pay a much larger sum for not having paid the first sum – and this will continue for years. The mafia will use your failure to pay once as the justification for making you pay even more. Again, it is purely punitive, without even an attempt made to justify it on the basis of any harm you’ve (cough) caused.
The health insurance mafia emulates these same tactics. It extorts and it extracts and when it is asked to pay, it denies. This made Luigi angry – as it has made most of us angry. Is there anyone who thinks the health insurance mafia isn’t one? That likes these mafiosi? We have all heard about people bankrupted and hounded by these mafiosi for every last cent they can extract. This is not to say Luigi didn’t murder that man. Just as John Gotti took out “Big Paul.”
It’s just not easy to determine which is the worse criminal.
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To all those here who think its wrong to assassinate an insurance company executive: how many of you have written/called once to the president (202) 456-111 or your congressmen/senator (202) 224-3121 to protest your tax dollars going to fund the assassination of Palestinian toddlers? Here’s another doctor, American-Jewish Dr. Mark Perlmutter, testifying to treating children assassinated by Israeli snipers in the head and heart. You probably never even heard that was happening (this video is from 12.18.24)!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDuxLKbP9ZF/?hl=en
I found above video because saw this one: same doctor describing amputating a 5 year old girl’s leg. Only anesthetic was the anesthetist singing to her. The doctors were praying she would faint but she didn’t. There were dozens more babies on the floor who also needed amputations because their limbs were shredded from the Israeli bombings.
https://www.facebook.com/aljazeera/videos/we-were-praying-for-her-to-faintorthopedic-surgeon-mark-perlmutter-recounts-ampu/1681382299623943/
There’s a new film out “American Doctor” about doctors’ experience in Gaza.
Democracy Now. 8.14.26 “We spoke to the director and two doctors featured in the new documentary “American Doctor,” which depicts besieged hospitals of Gaza continuing to treat the sick and wounded throughout Israel’s genocidal war on the Palestinian territory. According to Palestinian officials, Israeli attacks have killed about 1,700 healthcare workers in Gaza since October 2023.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMOhjwDRPGY
This is a British doctor testifying teen boys were shot in the testicles. Further that all would be shot in the head one day, in the stomach another day and one day four brought in all shot in the testicles. I’ve heard him in other interviews. This one is w/Tucker Carlson.
https://www.facebook.com/MiddleEastEye/videos/four-young-teenage-boys-were-brought-in-all-of-whom-had-been-shot-in-the-testicl/1666523324589790/
14 min BBC Africa documentary: “Shot in the head and chest: Investigating the killings of children in Gaza – BBC Africa. Aug 2, 2025. The BBC World Service has pieced together the stories of Layan al-Majdalawi, two, and Mira Tanboura, six, both killed in Gaza in separate incidents in November 2023, in areas where the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) was operating.
“The BBC has compiled material on over 160 cases where children have been shot in Gaza, and found that in 95 cases the child was shot in the head or chest. In most of these cases the victim was under 12 years old.
“The cases we found run from the first weeks of the war up to July this year. Israel does not allow foreign journalists to enter Gaza, and destruction and displacement make it difficult to gather material.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orR7H8GnhCY
While billionaire Jew NY Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch lectures “And to those who idolize Mangione—violence is not a cause, murder is not a message, and a killer is not a hero.”
https://www.facebook.com/FOX5NY/videos/nypd-commissioner-jessica-tisch-had-a-message-to-the-people-defending-luigi-mang/2851103431895499/
Narco “squiggy” Rubio in continuance of his endeavor to protect Israeli and US gov’t officials from being prosecuted for assassinating children and committing genocide The Hill 8.18.26 “Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Tuesday announced sanctions on the president of the International Criminal Court (ICC) and a trial lawyer… new sanctions target Tomoko Akane, ICC’s president, along with Abdoulaye Seye, ICC’s senior trial lawyer. Rubio said the action was part of “our unwavering mission to protect Americans (Netanyahu) from this sham of a court….“These individuals have directly engaged in efforts by the ICC to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute officials (Netanyahu) whose government has not consented to ICC jurisdiction,” Rubio said in a statement. …Last month, Rubio promised to use the tools of the U.S. government and American diplomacy to dismantle the Hague-based court “brick by brick,” including using travel bans, visa revocations, increased sanctions against the ICC and affiliated organizations, and diplomatic pressure on other nations to withdraw from the ICC.
“The administration has blacklisted several ICC officials — including prosecutors and judges — following the court issuing arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant, Israel’s former defense minister, over the war in the Gaza Strip.
“The U.S. has also pushed back against the court for a past probe into U.S. troops’ conduct in Afghanistan.”
Apparently it’s only a crime in the US to assassinate Jews and billionaires–certainly ain’t a crime to assassinate heads of other governments or even their negotiating team if not accommodating enough to U.S. Wouldn’t be surprised if Narco Squiggy and Ms Tisch ordered the assassination of the ICC judges and prosecutors to protect themselves from justice or Mamdani cause he’s a socialist muslim whose Pro-Palestinian.
Morning, AJC –
“violence is not a cause, murder is not a message, and a killer is not a hero.” Says the “hero” cop who employs killers who rely on violence.
I’m not fond of insurance companies, yet I have no sympathy for Luigi. Was it necessary to resort to the cartridge box?
I have more sympathy for Edward Biesiada, who shot and killed a zoning Nazi:
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/north-royalton-david-smerek-shooting-suspect-edward-biesiada-building-commissioner-zoning-dispute-3news-investigates/95-7a227373-5196-48bb-bc4b-6181f12e0b84
Free Edward Biesiada!
Hi SLH,
What other resort? These mobsters are partnered with the state. They are legally empowered to do what they do. I hate violence. At the same time, I am militant about self defense. The saying the Germans had after WW I is apt: Der tag kommt.
I don’t condone murder, but in this case, I understand it.
Exactly what I have been trying to convey, Mark!
Is Luigi a bad guy? That is not the question. The question is whether mobsters are bad guys. My view is they are. If one gets “hit,” well – that’s what happens to mob guys.
The thing is that the Insurance Mafia shakes us down legally to the point of extortion. Then, when we need their “services”, they either deny coverage or institute copays and/or coinsurance (what you have to cough up in addition to their “coverage) that’ll bankrupt you if you use their coverage. I’m surprised that this sort of thing hasn’t happened more often.
BTW, do you know WHY Big Paul Castellano was hit? He was squeezing his underlings to the point of starvation, and they’d had enough. When John Gotti set up the hit, many in the Gambino Family quietly backed him. Methinks there are parallels between Gotti’s hit and Luigi’s hit…
“… and when it is asked to pay, it denies“
That’s the truth. Wife has a lumbar spine deformity due to a life long scoliosis problem. Constant pain unless flat out in bed sleeping. Physical therapy, pain meds, nothing has helped. Found a decent surgeon from friends recommendation, he submitted the surgery plan to our Medicare supplement carrier Aetna. Denied, not “bad enough angle-wise to justify surgery.” Appeals, denied.
So, got money for lobbyists, TV ads, nonsense ‘Silver Sneakers’ exercise plans. But to do what “insurance” is supposed to do, no way. It’s not insurance, it’s a mainstream sanctioned grifting scam.
“I do not wish death on any man. However, I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.”
A bigger principle is at stake in Luigi Mangione’s case — the Fifth Amendment prohibition on double jeopardy:
‘nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb’
This is perfectly plain. It has no asterisked exceptions. Yet in the case of notorious defendants such as Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, showboating state and fedgov prosecutors run roughshod over it, pursuing duplicate convictions for the same conduct. They assert the transparent subterfuge that the two sets of laws apply different titles to the offenses. And the hacks in black settle back in their big leather chairs, silent except for the rhythmic whooshing of their penis pumps.
Unlike some states, New York has its own statutes pertaining to double jeopardy. Luigi’s lawyers avow that his federal guilty plea precludes state prosecution. The Manhattan district attorney’s office begs to differ, asserting their intent to prosecute the confessed felon, who is awaiting sentencing in federal court, all over again.
State prosecutors have my sympathy in one minor respect: the US fedgov was never meant to try ordinary crimes such as this one. It’s a garden variety murder, despite the interstate nexus which provides the excuse for ambitious fedgov prosecutors to butt in.
Though the US constitution provides some of the most pro-defendant protections on earth, all that has been vitiated by the ugly fact that Americans now answer to two criminal codes, state and federal, giving Big Gov two bites at the apple. That’s precisely what Amendment V was intended to prevent! Today, Madison and Jefferson are mocked by our degenerate legal system.
If his appeals can restore Amendment V and end the sordid reign of double jeopardy in America, then I say Godspeed Luigi!.
Actually three or perhaps even four: state and federal criminal codes, state and federal civil codes (not sure about state, but Trump got nailed for ‘rape’ in federal civil court).
Apparently the health insurance mafia CEO executed headed an organization that was infamous for denying valid insurance claims. Luigi is no saint but neither was the CEO. It sounds like a case of FAFO for both of them.
Luigi is the modern Ted Bundy, romanticized by a handful of reporters hoping to move up in the state-run media monopoly.
James Cramer started his rise to fame and a high position in state-run media not by being an ace financial reporter but turning Ted Bundy into a romantic figure covering the trial at his first job out of Harvard in Tallahassee in the late 70s.
Morning, Roscoe –
I see a difference. Bundy preyed on innocent women. Put another way, the women he assaulted and killed were sympathetic figures. They’d not done anything to anyone. Was the insurance mafia CEO a sympathetic figure? Again, I am not disputing that Luigi committed a murder. I am just pointing out that the person he murdered is not a sympathetic figure. These insurance mafiosi are just that.
Mobsters.
The fact that they are legalized mobsters doesn’t change what they are.
Mind: It is not the insurance part I have a problem with. It is the mafia part. If the sellers of insurance were only selling – and we were free to not buy (without repercussions) then the insurance sellers would be honorable people doing honest work. But they are neither thing.
Mencken hated chiropractors. He saw them as frauds. I despise the insurance mafiosi – because they are thugs.
Murder is murder, regardless of the target. It cannot be allowed. And a good chiropractor saved my back from surgery in the late ’90s. I despise the insurance mafiosi, but they’re just leveraging govcorp.com’s monopoly on violence, as too much of America is doing today.
I agree, cobblestones –
Still, I shed no tears for the insurance mobster. Just as I would not shed a tear if someone were to take care of Fauci.
Forcing people to hand over money to these private, for-profit mafias is insufferable. They are scum. Just some rough math for you. Over the past 30 years, I’ve been effectively forced to hand over something in the vicinity of $30,000. I have not cost them a cent. That $30k would – if I had it – enable me to fix everything that needs to be fixed around my house, plus get a (used) Miata for Dawn and some things I’d like to have also. Instead, I had to cough it up to these mobsters. I loathe them. Every last one.
Anyone who uses force against others is scum. Even more so if the bastard uses the government as his enforcer.
With you on that. And the insurance mafia isn’t the only one.
During my lifetime I’ve watched government change from an occasionally annoying intrusion into my life to an all-controlling collection of special interests manipulating the levers of power for their own benefit while always ensuring money funnels upwards from the people doing the work to the people who control the system. The share of national income going to the laboring classes has decreased mightily since the ’70s. Seeds of revolution.
So, Johnson, Nixon, Bush, should not have been killed? I somewhat agree – instead they should have been tortured first and left to die a painful death.
Unlike Bundy, Luigi Mangione was from a privileged background and never would have found himself in a position where a medical bill was not completely covered.
Ironically, Mangione’s grandfather was a Made Man in the Healthcare Mafia. He built his fortune running a chain of nursing homes and other “elder care” services.
I think part of the romance about Luigi is his wealth.
Morning, Roscoe!
My focus is not on Luigi; it is on the other guy – the mob boss he took out. I don’t have any sympathy for mobsters.
Oh, I have no sympathy for the Mafia Capo.
United denied a claim of mine for routine blood work the day before Luigi shot the CEO, and a relative by marriage possessing a “flexible morality” (thank you “Grosse Pointe Blank”) sits in a C Suite office of one of the major “insurance” providers.
Roscoe, Maybe Bundy was romanticized by reporters, but young people don’t need reporters today. They make their own decisions. This Jew associates Mangione with the hispanic who came to DC and shot two people in front of the Capital Jewish Museum to protest the murder of Palestinians and assumes young people are drawn to Mangione because he’s young and good looking and killed someone in a ‘good cause.’
“Sympathy for Luigi Mangione thus rests on two props: his handsome appearance and his presumed responsibility for killing Brian Thompson in a supposedly good cause.
“Had the suspect been an overweight, balding 45-year-old, I doubt the Independent Florida Alligator—the University of Florida’s student newspaper—would have published an article so soon after the murder that began: “Hundreds of UF students gathered at the Plaza of the Americas on Thursday afternoon for a Luigi Mangione lookalike contest, showcasing Generation Z’s unique ability to transform somber news into a source of shared humor and entertainment.”
“Gen Z tends to support young people standing up for a cause they believe in,” a biochemistry student said—which, the newspaper suggested, might explain the generation’s positive reaction to Mangione’s actions. “People might think it’s pretty privilege,” the student observed, “but also he stands for a cause.” …One contestant, a computer science and mathematics student who remained anonymous, used the opportunity to give a speech: “I want to say that the American health-care system has destroyed Americans. It is insane that the media will say that the CEO, a man who has killed hundreds of thousands of people, is the innocent one. I am so thankful that people like you have come together to realize and celebrate someone who has done something that is a beautiful thing.”
“Loudness of applause determined the contest’s winner, who said: “A lot of people are struggling economically. A lot of people are struggling socially. And so the health-care industry has caused a lot of these struggles. We’ve been exposed to violence, and we’ve been exposed to the very worst society has to offer from the top down for many years. It’s an inevitability, not a surprise, in my opinion.”
“The article is revealing in its mix of frivolity, moral earnestness, and intellectual evasion, traits that seem to afflict so many today. [!look up Dalyrmple (son of a russian communist Jew and a nazi refugee jew) & Gaza and see his intellectual dishonesty and evasion!] …Polls show that, following the killing, a significant share of students and young people either approved of, or did not disapprove of, Thompson’s murder….Would Generation Z have found such a source of humor in George Floyd’s death, for instance? I suspect not—some subjects are considered off-limits. In that light, treating Brian Thompson’s murder this way amounts to an implicit claim that the deed was, at the very least, morally justifiable—if not outright praiseworthy.
“….In London, a portrait of Mangione as a slayer of evil was painted on a wall; similarly, an enormous image of him—depicted as a saint-like figure and captioned “Free Luigi”—was projected onto a New York building the night before his first court appearance.
“… Righteous indignation is a beguiling and gratifying, but misleading, emotion. It rarely allows for a sense of proportion and is a powerful promoter of self-importance and self-aggrandizement. Unfortunately, thanks to our educational systems, which seem increasingly like madrassas of radicalism, there have never been more young people like Luigi Mangione and Elias Rodriguez willing to listen to the siren song of direct action—the propaganda of the deed, of making a difference at any cost.”
“https://www.city-journal.org/article/luigi-mangione-and-the-romance-of-murder
Unfortunately, Dalrymple couldn’t care less about the 80,000 dead in Gaza, 4,000 in Lebanon, 4,000 in Iran or the 250,000 wounded or the millions displaced whose homes have been destroyed anymore than he cares about the 100,000s killed by US health insurance companies. Look at the people murdered during Covid, the insane, the elderly, the sick, not allowed visits by any friend or relative–just the STATE (TRUMP and CUOMO) and the INSURANCE and DRUG COMPANIES making millions off of murdering people. Failure to thrive; forced onto hospice where no food, no diaper change, no water–just left to die while your room-mate looks on and wonders when their turn is coming. He doesn’t understand the fury of people paying thousands for insurance that doesn’t cover the health care and medicine they or their loved ones need when they are sick/injured/dying for lack of care (that the rich or the 100 year old rabbi get!).
This is the slogan of the health insurance companies (and it is the same slogan of the auto insurance companies): “Delay: The company stalls the claim process with endless paperwork requests, unreturned calls, or slow reviews to wear down the claimant.Deny: The company rejects the claim outright, often citing technicalities, narrow policy interpretations, or minor application errors.Defend: If the policyholder fights back, the company uses its massive legal resources to aggressively defend its decision in court.”
Mangione wanted to commit a “revolutionary” act. He compares himself to the unabomber Kaczynski. Ted Bundy had no such desire. Mangione murdered only the person he intended to kill [not their wife and grand-daughter, a whole apartment building, 168 school children, or like Israel murder 80,0000 and wound 174,000 when only 5000 were involved (or so you claim) and you still haven’t killed 2,000 of them]–who only answered his email when he posed “as an investor from a major firm that managed over $50 billion in assets. He received a reply within an hour.”
The powers that be are terrified that the young people today no longer believe their lies. When you’ve got nothing left to lose, everyone becomes a revolutionary–and that’s pretty much what the boomers and zionists have left western youth. God bless them. They should know how to terrorize the powers that be–the powers that be have done nothing but terrorize them with car seats, climate change, covid, $39 trillion debt, Gaza genocide, assassinating three sets of a country’s leadership and threatening to obliterate entire countries, bomb this and bomb that day and night for three years.
These people want to be a part of a revolution also. You have your mad king video. They have their mad empire video, but no one is restraining these lunatics.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbTeCtxO3WZ/
I have no doubt the insurance people are criminals, but that does not make me sympathetic to this Luigi greaseball.
My understanding of the situation is that he was a casa nova who had some sort of accident, had back surgery, and after that couldn’t get his dick hard. (Which is ironic, considering all the women fawning over him).
I’m not aware that the guy who got shot had anything directly to do with the situation. Luigi sounds like a narcissist to me.
I agree, X –
The point I was trying to make is that the insurance mafia CEO is not someone whose murder arouses sympathetic feelings. I regard that guy as essentially the same sort of guy that Big Paul Castellano was. Yes, Luigi is scum. It is neither here nor there as far as whether the insurance mafia don was as well.
Any person who leverages the coercive apparatus of the state to threaten me, to force me to hand over money, is scum. Albert Bourla is scum. The heads of the “Five families” – Geico, Progressive, Liberty (cough) and so on – are also scum. I would not shed a tear for any of them.
A man who earns his living honestly, who minds his own business is an honorable man. Anyone who doesn’t, isn’t.
Sorry to do a grammar interjection here, but it’s “Casanova”, as in, a dude’s name, all one word. Separately and un-capitalized, “casa nova” means “new house” in Portuguese.
Carry on.
Likewise in Italian, casa nuova means ‘new house,’ with a minor spelling variation, just as it’s casa nueva in Spanish.
Giacomo Casanova lived in the late 1700s during the American revolution. Casanova studied law at the University of Padua but had no enthusiasm for the law. So he embarked instead upon an itinerant life as a gambler, violinist, confidence trickster, and man of letters.
It’s a great gig if you’ve got the flair for it! Presumably young Luigi will have plenty of time to scribble in his cell, though ‘Son of Sam’ laws which originated in New York prohibit criminals from profiting from writings or shows about their crimes.
My advice to Luigi: lightly fictionalize your exploits. Work in some winsome femmes fatales — even quoting from your wheelbarrows full of fan letters — and you’ll have a smash hit.
The government kills millions and millions of people in illegal and immoral wars. They have the gall to charge others with murder? LOL
Trump recently mass murdered 168 little school girls. Why isn’t he being charged with first degree murder 168 counts?
When men have suffered harm, libertarian philosophy acknowledges their right to retaliate. Like high ranking commanding officers in an enemy army which has conquered and occupies one’s country, and by extension, controls the government and economy to the insufferable detriment of the citizenry, insurance CEO’s are legitimate targets for assassination.
I wonder if when you have an “insurance company” with a business model of selling insurance with no intention of ever paying out on claims – of in fact denying all claims absent successful legal action by the insuree – you might be looking at an organized fraud crime ring pretending to be a business, rather than something actually legitimate?
The fact that these people like that are not in prison for fraud is amazing to me.
We’ve reached a point in the degeneration of society where people like this Italian kid are necessary. It’s obvious that absent the fear of death, there is a significant segment of the “business community” who will misbehave in some abhorent fashion. In a functional society, these people would not be running a business.
If I were on Mangione’s jury, he’d walk.
Me too. Luigi’s lawyers should have found a way to get me on that jury.
“There is no piety in rejoicing the dead.” – Tacitus
However, weeping is not mandatory, either.
Sorry Tacitus, piety or not I will definitely be rejoicing when Trump is dead; champagne’s in the fridge ready for that day.
I believe one should have the right to consume whatever beverage they choose. The problem seems that when one scum bag is eliminated another, even worse, takes their place.