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Claude Debussy, dead 96 years now. This is still his property. It would never have existed without him.
Yet CBC public UK Canada media probably holds a superior claim to this performance of his work. Maybe they’ll adjust their YouTube account so this hotlink won’t work anymore. In their minds you need their permission, even though Claude is the one who made this exist.
When do we become clovers I wonder. For some it happens early on. For others later on. Has there ever been anyone who wasn’t at least partially a clover at some time or another?
This performance wouldn’t be viewable by you if it weren’t for YouTube, the piano manufacturer and artisans. The talents of Angela Hewitt. There’s a lot of austrian economics to consider. Also plenty of objectivism.
Perhaps somewhere there are countless middle eastern clovers and western fundamentalist clovers ready to destroy all the songbooks with this song in it. Smash all the pianos that might play the song.
Challenge anyone who engages in the playing of such songs.
I think I’ll revert to just calling myself an objectivist. Never mind the mainstream group that has altered the terms of this philosophical deal. Never mind their threats to pray they don’t alter the objectivist deal further. At least Ayn Rand made a living and created a life out of her work.
Surely there are all manner of PTBs behind the scenes of her body of work. Who knows what there intentions were regarding their publishing and marketing of Ayn’s writing. I won’t concern myself with that too much.
There was just something about seeing those old videos of her sitting next to Mike Wallace. Phil Donahue. Johnny Carson. She was just a solitary little old lady. There was a kind of enchanting beauty about her humble and unassuming reality.
If others want to call considering the words of another person a cult. That’s their right and I won’t worry about it too much. Is she a cult? Is Ron Paul a cult?
Ron Paul’s okay. And his medical abilities put him in a higher class of productivity and skill that Ayn Rand can’t even touch. But I find him relateable and interesting. But not someone to really study and glean what there is to be gleaned from a thorough scholastic consideration.
Any way back to the destroyers of sheet music and pianos. What is to be done about them? I don’t know really. I can’t change them. I can only change myself and in that way maybe reduce the level of toxic cloverism by that small amount. IF I’m successful, that is.
Why is it Clover mostly correct? Why do so few people agree with us?
Stef talks about a time when his friend was asked what he thought of the Pope’s death, and he replied: “It’s a good start!.” The great mystery is: why on earth are people so blind to the tyrannies that rule them?
Why do we obey our family, teachers, friends, bosses, and authority figures. Just what the hell is wrong with us. When we have to tell clover rather than show him how to be free of false authority, it should serve as a red flag that we still have work to do on ourselves, besides educated the stubborn and even more authoritarian-afflicted among us.
I think it is because we haven’t started at the root of the problem of the myth of authority. That instead we are grasping at leaves and twigs and pulling them down, all the while avoiding dealing with the true nature of the Myth of Authority.
So what is our authority? Tradition? History? Custom? Manners? Politeness? Disclosure? Honesty?
The answer is none. All authorities for authority’s sake are mythical.
So how we prep for this situation? What do we do, now that our authorities have hit the fan?
We can substitute other concepts is the simplest route.
Skill. Ability. Accomplishment. Accolades. Friends. Property. Generally whoever has more of these is more of guideline than someone who is…
Unskilled. Attacking. Secretive. Destructive. Inconsistent. Vindictive. Deceptive. Accusatory. Predatory. Manipulative. Careless.
But though we can assemble a long list of what is better in general, and what is worse, we should not merely replace the Evil Forced Authority with some other equally illegitimate authority.
For some reason – libertarians have escaped the general ‘mind-binding’ inflicted by church doctrine, State education and cultural bigotry. Generally because we had unconvincing authority figures early in life.
The natural intelligence that is the birthright of every child flowered in us – and makes us now tower over the general herd, just as a free-footed Chinese girl sped in circles around her groaning and crippled foot-bound companions. It is not our intelligence that makes us so much smarter, but the general crippling of others.
So people cannot understand freedom because their minds have been crippled through religion, dogmatic cultures and State schools. On a more basic level, everything comes down to the family.
People can quite easily understand freedom, but the social cost for them to do so is far too great, so they scorn it and pretend ignorance.
If people grasped and grokked freedom, what would happen to their relationships? They’d have to break with their families, end their marriages – quit their jobs most likely. Everything would have to change!
People aren’t stupid – they just can’t handle the effects of letting even a hint of real freedom into their lives. When you have children, you also have to take an honest look at your own parental mistakes. And at those of your own parents as well.
It’s easier to complain about distant general evils, than to deal with local personal evils. It’s much less painful to complain about the evils of Obama and the IRS, than it is to deal with the evils of your father, wife, and children. And the evils of yourself.
Are people just stupid? Stef Molyneux
“For some reason – libertarians have escaped the general ‘mind-binding’ inflicted by church doctrine, State education and cultural bigotry. Generally because we had unconvincing authority figures early in life.”
I’m not sure. Logic professions are overly represented in libertarianism.
But this also leaves out those of whom have had the state fail them at an early age in the government schools
I don’t know if he’s right or not. If we grew up in Japan or Britain, it would probably be much harder to see through the myth of authority.
Next time I’d add a few more sentences to include the other major reasons one becomes a libertarian. Being raped by the state also comes to my mind.
Because Canadian authority structures aren’t as dysfunctional as the ones found in Chicago, Detroit, and other modern US major cities we’re familiar with I don’t know why Canadians become libertarians for sure.
Certainly when you work in a demanding, logic intensive profession, you are much less satisfied with “that’s the way it’s always been” and other such nonsense I’d agree with you there.
The “light” goes on for different reasons – and at different times.
Like many, I entered adulthood as a “small government” conservative. But there were aspects of this patchwork utilitarian outlook that began to nag at me even as a teenager. I’m attracted to systematic and coherent philosophies.
Jefferson and Paine really resonated with me. Mencken was an early hero of mine. But it was Rand who lit my fire. She wasn’t the first to systematize the philosophy of liberty, but hers were the first works I read that did. I sought out others – Bastiat, Leonard Read (FEE, for those who remember that outfit) and all the classics.
The great appeal – for me – is the “Occam’s Razor” of the NAP. It cleaves the ethically justifiable from the ethically not-justifiable and does so without appeal to religious or other dogma. One of the problems I always had with “small government” conservativism was its heavy dosing of moral unction – the “family values” schtick, for example. (Really? Whose family? What values?) Its contradictory espousal of “freedom” on the one hand (in economics) alongside its insistence that people conduct their personal lives a certain way . . . or else. In other words, aggressive force. Just like any other brand of statist.
I examined the “conservative” viewpoint and discovered it to be fundamentally no different than the “liberal” viewpoint. Both demand the individual accept the authority of the collective or the collective’s (so-called and often self-appointed) representatives. Neither respect the right of the individual to be left in peace provided he himself is peaceful. This is the NAP.
And for me, the NAP is an ethical absolute.
It is elegantly coherent and consistent. At a stroke, it parses – it eliminates – sloppy, subjective, ends-justifies-the-means thinking. It eviscerates the demagogic, emotional verbiage used so effectively by both conservatives and liberals to undermine or outright destroy human liberty.
@Tor – Frédéric Bastiat beat you to it in 1850.
The Law, by Frederic Bastiat, ia also available at Amazon if you nothing else to do.
Darn WordPress limitations (damn you Dom 🙂 )
Bastiat’s famous essay “The Law” showcases his talents as an activist for the free market. He explains that the law, far from being what it ought to be, “namely the instrument that enabled the state to protect individuals’ rights and property, had become the means for what he termed ‘spoliation,’ or plunder.” From the article “The State,” in which Bastiat argues against socialism, comes perhaps his best-remembered quotation: “The state is the great fiction by which everyone endeavors to live at the expense of everyone else.”
Heinlein, though not known as a philosopher, produced some brilliantly concise statements. For instance, he wrote that in any society there are three types of people: Makers, Takers … and Fakers!
Before you become a good little FEMA camper, you’ll have to push all those other evil narcissistic thoughts out of your head. Narcissists are the worst, they care more about themselves than about society and the state.
Stef Molyneux responds to David Gordon’s criticisms of Universally Preferred Behavior (Gordon agrees with UPB, but has problems with Stef’s version of it)
Stef and Free Domain Radio
Stef Molyneux and DEFOO defined
Free Domain Radio Liberated
To me, the anonymous nature of the internet is a great tool for finding truth. It’s great that Stef is a real person both on the internet and as a public speaker. And he’ll always be light years ahead of Institutional rats like David Gordon, who will never venture too far outside their free cheese and comfort of a non-profit foundation which provides them a comfortable living in return for suppressing their individuality and sovereignty for a cause.
Larken Rose – Quatlosers Hall of Shame
here’s one against Larken as well
FSP porcupiners discuss Larken’s “tax scams” regarding the official IRS tax scam
The weird thing about being forcibly relocated to FEMA camps is we’ll still enjoy a fairly high standard of living compared to the rest of the world. We better hurry up, China is gaining on us in terms of mandatory education, don’t want to fall behind.
Will we have to report there, or can we just get some kind of lobotomy and a FEMA GED I wonder?
Happy flag day by the way.
Flags are interesting in much the same way Organic Law is interesting. Odd how the US flag bears such a close resemblance to the British East India Company Flags
Response to butthurt patriots from Chris Cantwell on why he burned a flag in protest
Stefan Molyneux “revealed”
Sometimes you learn more by trying to destroy the credibility of your argument or seeing someone argue against someone you generally agree with. After listening to this site against Molyneux, I find myself more in agreement with Stef than before.
The key of course is not to become a Molyneuxian. You still have to think for yourself and define yourself on your own terms. Identity politics provides no self-identity at all really.
Of course there is NAP dogma and ideals, and then each of our actual stories. Ideally we’d all mine the metals and then forge our own guns, but reality is often far from ideal. A known individual has to take precedence, I think over mere guidelines and rules of thumb.
I would never be allowed to hold that position, because I never think anyone is guilty. I’d probably let most of them out eventually, and then when something went wrong, I’d be responsible for it in the eyes of my peers. I don’t see why you couldn’t give trustees every peace inducing cable channel and let them sit in front of the screen 24/7. Making them contented couch potatoes is probably the best kind of rehab realistically possible.
trustees in the dorm. somehow those don’t seem like the right words for who those guys were and where they were. but heck, we didn’t start the fire, it was always burning, since the world’s been turning, no we didn’t light it, but we tried to fight it.
To me that’s the problem, trying to fight the fires of the world. What’s best is to let things burn, but in a way that doesn’t harm humans and their property. Let those who seek violence pursue violence, but with their own consenting kind only.
Let’s go to prison trailer
gibbons communicating by singing
If only I could say “no english” and mean it. Maybe there is a way to selectively forget a language, that way I wouldn’t be able to communicate with the bastards.
duet of gibbons in a zoo
anytime I hear a narrator or voice of authority or knowledge controller, I tune them out. I only hear human staccato hooting and hollering, they never say anything worth hearing, and they never will.
V is for Vendetta reporting the news
wanted to give the old girl blah blah blah blah although the demolition drone drone drone blah blah blah…
– give me the gibbons any old day!
Yeah I liked that Punisher short film. I’ve mostly lived in those environments and can relate.
There’s more individual injustice in the hoods, but the authoritarian hierarchies are weak or non-existent such that you live a much freer life.
Shankar did another one:
Here’s some more movies by Punisher Dirty Laundry guy, Adi Shankar
I’ve only seen Dredd which was real good, I think I’ll check out Lone Survivor.
The flaw with Asia taking the US down a notch is probably that then Asia moves up a notch. The puzzle is how to thwart the Sport of Kings so I don’t have to run in their horse races, pull their horse carts, or be made into horse meat to feed their hounds.
Vegas is a 24/7 Fellini film. With a workforce of indifferent broken down losers that have already failed everywhere else. Run by a few reclusive billionaires who want things to stay broken so they can Oligarch in peace.
The ugliest of Ugly Americans don their ugliest outfits and waddle in here to spend their money and receive encouragement to act even uglier because they’re on vacation and it’s their money they’re spending.
Sorry freedom seekers, this is Glitter Gulch , Galt’s Gulch is in Colorado.
For only a $20 entry fee you can come in and sit for an hour and look at some single Mom’s gulches, drink some watered down drinks, and listen to some terrible rap and club music.
-from Rand’s unpublished sequel: “Atlas Says Fuck It, I Give Up”
– Who is John Galt? Who cares, it’s all you can eat Shrimp Cocktails for $0.99!
“I value my own independence so highly that I can fancy no degradation greater than that of having another man perpetually directing and advising and lecturing
me, or even planning too closely in any way about my actions.
He might be the wisest of men, or the most powerful–I should equally rebel and resent his interference…”
John Thornton – North and South – by Elizabeth Gaskell
John & Margaret – love story – North & South
Wouldn’t the world be better off, if a few Tu-95s dropped some bombs on the western state capitols of Juneau, Olympia, Salem, and Sacramento?
Give those four states a much needed attitude adjustment?
Maybe just some rogue Russians would be up to the task, not an official military assault. Something to stop the American Cancer before it spreads any further and dooms the entire world.
Russian Bombers Fly Within 50 Miles of California Coast
@Tor – Not necessary. We will bankrupt ourselves by spending over 400 billion dollars on the purchase of 2,100 of these:
Those planes are nearly useless, aren’t they?
Rome finally fell in 1453 because Sultan Mehmet had more money to spend on military engineers who devised long range mortars to take the high-walled Constantinople.
As America declines, other nations will have more money, and it’ll end up losing Hawaii and all the Pacific Islands. Then Alaska. Then the Florida panhandle.
Probably the whole western half of America will fall. It doesn’t have enough water or the right kind of harbors that can support a large Navy.
Upper California will become a dustbowl because the dams will all have been destroyed by bombers and the water would be returned to its rightful place in Mexico.
The west will be at the mercy of foreign oligarchs, just like the Middle East is now.
I don’t really have a preference for which government prevails. Ideally, I’d like them all to fail.
I am all for the Oregon territory and sucking up to Canada for some beer and hockey.
Who would get Vegas? I have a hard time visioning a waving vaquero downtown saying Ola! Hombre! and serving up nuevo latino cuisine.
Vegas is the third circle of Hell, as far as I am concerned!
Been there; never want to go there again!
@Eric – No doubt it does live there. Usually about two blocks away from the casinos. But people pay millions to watch mindless entertainment movies while sitting on the sofa. I find great entertainment, food and human irony walking down the “ultimate plastic waterworld” strip late at night. But that is just me.
If only in accordance with that business about the enemy of my enemy being my friend, I am glad that Russia is rebounding and has Putin for its Dear Leader. No doubt, this insane country would have “regime changed” Syria were it not for the cock-blocking of Russia. Thank god for that. Someone has got to restrain the rabid dog…
the enemy of my enemy is my frenemy in waiting, my enemy in inventory…one cartridge lower in the magazine…you know those movie-magazines, the ones that never empty? ☻
Love it. I’ve haven’t digested these all, but I look forward to doing so. Something to look forward to assuming someone feeds the meter here and this site stays up and running long enough for me to read them more thoroughly.
Just finished The Fault Is In Our Stars. Is there anything better than a hot virgin chick with cancer meeting someone and getting to experiencing sex before her singularity passes back into the continuum because one of her cells insists on asserting its primacy?
Everything wrong and right with this world. I’ll try to post a brutist review of John Green’s cinematic digitalization so this’ll make more sense.
Having recently lost someone close to la grande lettre C it was cathartic to see a brute capitalist video bring the experience to life.
Even cancer sells cigarettes, liquor, sedans, Amsterdam vacations, and countless other worthy products of our wide and wealthy world. As the comedic philosopher Yakov Smirnoff used to say – “What a Country!”
As an added cornucopia this mass advertainment even gives a shout out regarding the philosophy of infinities nearly all can appreciate.
How does the Make A Wish foundation really work? What if my wish is an orgy with pornstars or to strangle a serial murder scheduled for execution anyway? Can they make that happen, I mean come on, I have cancer!
Georg Cantor and Infinity
The spotted hawk swoops by and accuses me, he complains of my gab and my loitering.
I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable,
I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world.
The last scud of day holds back for me,
It flings my likeness after the rest and true as any on the shadow’d wilds,
It coaxes me to the vapor and the dusk.
I depart as air, I shake my white locks at the runaway sun,
I effuse my flesh in eddies, and drift it in lacy jags.
I bequeath myself to the dirt to grow from the grass I love,
If you want me again look for me under your boot-soles.
You will hardly know who I am or what I mean,
But I shall be good health to you nevertheless,
And filter and fibre your blood.
Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged,
Missing me one place search another,
I stop somewhere waiting for you.
Last stanza of Song of Myself – Walt Whitman – final death bed version
a scathing satire set on a new orleans-bound riverboat, the confidence-man exposes the fraudulent optimism of so many american idols & idealists – ralph waldo emerson, david thoreau, & p.t. barnum in particular – & draws a dark vision of a country being swallowed by its illusions of progress. here the “confidence-man” moves through a boatful of unusual characters, tricking everyone he meets, yet remaining so well disguised as to avoid clear identification even by the reader.
the culmination of herman melville’s brilliant career as a novelist, & considered by many to be america’s first “postmodern” novel, the confidence-man creates an elaborate masquerade that asks: who in this world is worth our confidence?
~ back cover of the dalkey archive edition (preface by daniel handler; with intro & annotations of h. bruce franklin’s ’67 edition)
you might be interested……
Maybe you thought i Was the packard goose
Or the ronald Macdonald of the Nouveau-abstruse
Well fuck all them People, I don’t Need no excuse
For being what I am Do you hear me, then?
– Frank Zappa
Voice of mary’s vision:
Hi! it’s me… The girl from the bus…
Remember? The last tour? Well…
Information is Not knowledge
Knowledge is Not wisdom
Wisdom is not truth
Truth is not beauty
Beauty is not love
Love is not music
Music is the best…
Wisdom is the domain
Of the wis (which is extinct).
Beauty is a french Phonetic corruption
Of a short cloth Neck ornament
Currently in Resurgence…
– Dale Bozzio
And no sooner has she spoken (which is awkward and probably incorrect but what the fuck), enormous flabby short cloth neck ornaments obscure the horizon in a multitude, beating their ugly wings
Orking their hidden chrome snap attachments as they resurge in the direction of the white zone seeking snack material near the utensil shrines of greater america
Frank Zappa – Packard Goose
The Anarchist Manifesto (1850), by Anselme Bellegarrigue
Most people do not consider the problem of government: it is not a person, nor a family, but a detached bureaucratic brute thing where a few rule over others they have not met.
It does not consider the finer points of individual cases, but creates rigid abstract rules which inevitably come into conflict. For this reason, most governments spend their time in internal conflict over interpretation of rules, and inevitably oppress their citizens by forcing them to obey detailed regulations which fit an “average” citizen, yet apply to no actually living human being.
An anarchist is someone who agrees that civilization should exist, but believes that government is a parasite not necessary for civilization. Government both oppresses the citizens and takes from them the responsibility of making society work.
Instead of taking it into their own hands, citizens are trained to sit back and call some distant acronymous agency to help them out. By this method, we domesticate ourselves and make even the best among us weak and passive.
Even worse, we hand power to the bureaucrats, who are by definition people who could not succeed in actual work, and therefore take paper-pushing jobs so they have power over others.
Anarchy when looked at practically, can be seen as a different kind of order. Centralized authority requires we all obey a single authority, but anarchy requires decentralized governments in which we are each our own authorities, and responsible to each other to collaborate and maintain what is needed for civilization.
In centralized government, you have to convince a bureaucrat or jury that what you are doing is correct, but in decentralized government, you must maintain cooperation with your fellow citizens by showing them constantly that you are doing what is right.
Centralized government is like watching television: you sit back and relax and pay attention to the show, but you are not actually part of it, and until it gets so bad you change the channel, you put up with its mediocrities.
Anarchists like to talk about “the n+1 problem.” This refers to the fact that, in any government, you have a division between citizens (sheep) and authorities (herders). However, the authorities are sheep as well, since they are also citizens and are not given by nature any greater wisdom or ability.
Because centralized government requires passive citizens obeying its rules, it needs people to enforce those rules. It can be said that for every n citizens there must be a certain number of authority figures.
Here is where it gets complicated: because these authority figures are also citizens, and thus we cannot assume that they either will obey all of the rules, government must watch itself, in order to be fair.
Thus for every n citizens, you need a certain number of watchers, and another number of watcher watchers. This adds up to the equation that for every n citizens you need at least n+1 watchers to keep society working fairly. Obviously, this is mathematically impossible.
What is missing here is trust. Trust, however, cannot occur when you have a society divided between people assumed to be doing wrong (citizens) and those assumed to be doing right (watchers).
Furthermore, trust is impossible when you have a government in Washington, D.C. which is trying to administer laws to places as different as Seattle, Washington and Mobile, Alabama.
The only way one achieves trust is a society in which there is no division between citizens and watchers, and for that reason the responsibility to work well with one another is thrust back onto the citizens.
When this happens, those who can trust each other exclude those who are irresponsible, forcing them to create their own social group to ensure their survival.
In an anarchist society, there is a lack of a single rule for all people, and therefore people cannot criticize actions simply because “they are illegal.” However, actions which are unpopular because they are destructive or selfish will cause the person who committed said actions to be exiled from the society of his or her peers, without protection of law for actions that are “legal” but not ethical.
Local communities are the focus of anarchist society, because informal decentralized systems encourage people to form social units only of those that they know. Anarchist society does not rely on “enforcement,” or punishment of bad acts, but it relies on trust, or contined reinforcement of human relationships based on the day-to-day good that people do.
The moral construct of “good” and “evil” by which society lives is a materialist notion: it is designed to protect life and property, and does not consider the intent behind or results from an action, for example the necessity of driving away destructive people or confiscating property used aggress against others.
Morality says simply yes or no depending on whether someone dies, or had their “rights” violated, or their property was taken away. Only secondarily do moral societies pass judgment over life and property, but by the very nature of morality, they are unwilling to do so on a large enough scale to have an impact.
The death penalty is futile because a murderer stands good odds of beating it, and fining large corporations for their pollution is pointless because they will almost never pay anything commensurate to the actual damage done.
Morality protects life and property, including of those who by virtue of possessing both will do untold damage to the citizens, the environment, and the public goodwill.
Anarchist morality is simple: do what you will. Those who are of like minds will congregate and form their own allegiances without formalizing them and thus detaching themselves from the task of building trust, and those who act in conflict with others will eventually find their will driven away or terminated by those who have a different agenda.
This means that local communities will form according to the shared values of the individual wills involved; some communities will be dedicated to crime and drug use, and other communities will be intolerant of such choices and will defend against them.
It is worth noting that no central government has ever solved the problem of crime, which is almost completely eliminated in local communities where everyone knows each other and have established a communal trust and values system, against which any transgression is clear and unwanted, whether it is “legal” or “moral” – or not.
You cannot make enough rules to identify every destructive act, and those acts will differ from community to community.
Many people fear anarchy because they reason that, without some clear central authority saying right/wrong, people will act selfishly and destructively.
The truth is that some people will always do that, and while they are protected under centralized authority, they are not in anarchies and therefore cannot get away with their legal and moral but unethical and destructive acts. Anarchy is not a revolt against morality, but as with government, a decentralization of it.
One great misconception about anarchy is that it is entirely an individual process, since the individual defines the values and rules by which he or she lives. Anarchy is not an impulse against civilization, but toward a decentralized civilization because it is inherently superior in design. Anarchists collaborate in an informal basis because of the values they share, upon which they act.
Instead of having our lives be organized by distant abstractions and rigid rules, anarchists prefer to connect with real living experience: the trust bonds that form between individuals (who, unlike in centralized systems, actually know each other and interact on a daily basis) to create active communities of collaboration, instead of passive communities in which arbitrary laws are enforced upon us by a barely-trustworthy bureacratic entity known as “government.”
If we want a world without the “abuse” of power, we have to recognize that power is abuse.
Some might construe anarchy as “radical” or “extremist,” but when one recognizes that civilization is a natural impulse and government only a temporary means of asserting “control” for the benefit of centralized organizations like government and big business, it is anarchy that becomes natural and bureaucratic government that reeks of artificiality and extremity.
Not all people need to be constrained by the laws that limit the lowest among us; in the name of avoiding that pitfall, our society rules us all inequally, ineptly. Anarchy is freedom from that delusion and the future for all who value experience over rules.
But they beat you senseless and throw you, broken and bleeding, into the back of the van.
Back to the cage you go.
In a sane world, society wouldn’t tolerate someone like Sam and his thugs. People of all classes, ethnicities and sexual orientations would agree that such thuggishness could not be abided. And yet, Sam does exist in the form of The State. Which is far more evil and cunning than in the above parable. But operates in much the same way.
When will we see The State for what it truly is?
a man named Sam
who is mike from wichita?:
oddly enough he is also hated and vilified at democratic underground where he is a donating member (if he has money to donate doesn’t that mean he should pay here as well)
mike finds himself unwelcome in christian forums
mike is ridiculed at conservative times
maybe mike should donate some funds here, and in turn, we can help him become a commentor people will listen to and respect. win win?
no love for mike at amren
mike is warned at nopc . info
mike at thepoliticsforum . com
@Tor – I think you are making fun of him. Anyone who can use the word “operste” in a sentence should, at the very least, be a law maker.
Wow Tor, MIkeFromwichita is like crab lice in a cheap cat house; he’s everywhere. I guess he has nothing to do and plenty of time to do it in, huh? So let’s take a vote: Is MFW independently wealthy (big d!@k)? Or is he just on the dole (limp d!@k)? Inquiring minds want to know.
frank & ernest in the world…
what’s in your wallet? depends…..
A story that perfectly captures American Cuntery
“I picture this concerned someone standing beside my car, inches from my child, holding a phone to the window, recording him as he played his game on the iPad. I imagined the person backing away as I came out of the store, watching me return to the car, recording it all, not stopping me, not saying anything, but standing there and dialing 911 as I drove away. ‘Bye now.’
At this point, almost a year had passed since it happened. I could hear my lawyer shuffling papers. I looked down and saw that my hands were shaking. My hands were shaking, but unlike before, I wasn’t afraid. I was enraged.”
– give me thickly accented Indian or Chinese English any day. Thankfully I can do most of my business with Hispanic entrepreneurs here in Vegas. I hope Nevada rejoins Mexico when America finally collapses. Anything’s better than being forced to deal with hideous busybody Americunts for another got-damned second.
Lady Gaga’s Born This Way Foundation collects $2.6 million. Spends $495,000. Gives away only $5,000 to its supposed cause.
Yet another reason to conclude America is the biggest Asshole nation of all time:
Decades later, The US Marines are still hunting Vietnam-era deserters
America used to be great before it was ruined by Eurofags.
Lewis and Clark describe First Nation American sexual practices:
“The old men arrange themselves in a circle and after smoke a pipe, which handed them by a young man, dress up for a sexual encounter called the medicine dance.
The young native men of the wives in the back of the circle go to one of the old men with a whining tone and request the old man to take his wife, who presents naked except a robe.
The girl then takes the old man, and leads him to a convenient place for sex. Lewis and Clark sent a man in their expedition to this medicine dance last night, they gave him four girls
Looks like Americans who donate their clothing to charity are assholes who are making things worse.
Best thing to do, is to donate to real actual human beings. All organizations can be coopted and used for destructive purposes, no matter how good their intentions may be. The bigger the organization, the more damage it does usually.
Basically what Clover et. al. are arguing, is that after a few 100 years of centralized controls, Americans will become a recognizable race just like everywhere else.
Look how homogenous Russians, Japanese, Italians, Chinese and French people are. Such culture. So many group achievements. One can usually identify them fairly quickly. Each of them is born with a collective inheritance. I hope that doesn’t happen here.
That means I don’t want the most successful, the best bred, the most moral, the most generous people to be put in authority. I don’t want good leaders. I don’t want any leaders at all. Maybe that puts me at odds with most libertarians even, I don’t know.
I just know that I don’t want to be forced to do anything. If temperate, healthy, attractive, polite, honest people are chosen as leaders, then the people will start to see them as preferrable to other people. And that’s where force will quickly come to be accepted as inevitable and for the greater good. Screw that.
There are already plenty of decent nations and working systems of organized society in existence. I hope America rejects all of them and never becomes systematic. I hope Americans remain free to choose their own ways of living.
When I see obese, drug addicted, dangerous driving, wrecklessly thrill seeking, self-absorbed, totally inconsiderate, completely selfish people doing incredibly thoughtless things, I am encouraged to believe we might just pull through this.
Fuck every last one of the do-gooder, best-intentioned, selfless, charitable, caring, helpful, good example, salt-of-the-earth, friends to the friendless, nice guys up the ass seven ways from Sunday. Mind your own fucking business and keep the hell away from me you grinning parasite of the misfortunate and self-destructive.
Should a Person Touch 200,000 Volts? A Van de Graaff generator experiment
LumiLor Electroluminescent Coating
200 year old Swiss toy
Aircraft hangar fire suppression test
Smart birds learn to open doors
Clover wants a homogenized society like Brave New World. What he doesn’t know is they will make him a useful beta. But the Soma will be good and he will like it.
Futurist Ray Kurzweil’s prediction that humans will be uploading their minds to computers by 2045 and that bodies will be replaced by machines before the end of the century, currently receiving a new wave of media attention, overlooks the fact that such technology will likely be monopolized by the elite as a way of enslaving the rest of humanity on an industrial scale.
Kurzweil, recently hired by Google, repeated his forecast at the Global Futures 2045 International Congress in New York this past weekend but newspaper reports concerning the issue were absent a key disclaimer which Kurzweil admits in his book – such technology will not be available to the general public and instead will be controlled by a technocratic elite who will attempt to become super beings by merging with machines.
Excellent. The sooner they are digital, the sooner they can be infected with a destructive worm or EMP’ed.
Hack the root.
ray k is one smart kookie. but smarts doesn’t preclude emotional trauma damage, or optimistic naivete. make that extreme opti-naivete.
in the ’09 documentary,”transcendant man”, the idea of “uploading” his deceased father is his prime directive, followed closely by personal immortality (or “something like it”). a few others in the film talk about the much more likely downside of “the singularity”.
blackhats wield technology – & the smart kookies who contrive it – in arsenal fashion now, just as they have in the past…the ssssingularity, if/when it comes & is imposed, will be the supersnake which eats the apple instead of tempting eve with it. ouroboros will disappear down its own gullet.
eve, adam, meet “Eleanor” is the trademarked name given to a 1971 Ford Mustang Sportsroof (redressed as a 1973) for its role in independent filmmaker H.B. “Toby” Halicki’s 1974 film Gone in 60 Seconds. “Eleanor” is the only Ford Mustang in history to receive star title credit in a movie.
The “Eleanor” name is also shared with the customized 1967 Mustang fastback in the 2000 Gone in 60 Seconds remake.
The 1967 GT-500 Super Snake was something special for it’s time. Equipped with a 427 FE engine from Ford that produced over 650 horsepower, the car was capable of reaching speeds over 150mph, and at one point even hitting 170mph while testing tires for Goodyear. Today, it’s one of the most expensive Mustangs ever to exist, selling at auction for over $1.2 million.
gone…in…60…seconds…goethe? “leap & the skynet will appear” ☻
I don’t even want to be in their alphabet myself.
I’d rather be an aleph, beth, or gimel, 3500 year old phoenician/hebrew script than part of their derivative Greek system if I find a way to make my own choice in the matter.
Hebrew Alphabet Letters
Epautos regular Darien gets a mention on Lew Rockwell
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight. Gonna grab some afternoon delight. My motto’s always been; when it’s right, it’s right. Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night. When everything’s a little clearer in the light of day. And we know the night is always gonna be there any way.
Thinkin’ of you’s workin’ up my appetite. Looking forward to a little afternoon delight. Rubbin’ sticks and stones together makes the sparks ingite. and the thought of rubbin’ you is getting so exciting. Sky rockets in flight
Afternoon delight. Afternoon delight.
Started out this morning feeling so polite. I always thought a fish could not be caught who wouldn’t bite. But you’ve got some bait a waitin’ and I think. I might like having a little afternoon delight. Sky rockets in flight
Afternoon delight. Afternoon delight.
Please’ be waiting for me baby when I come around. We could make a lot of lovin’ ‘for the sun goes down. Thinkin’ of you’s workin’ up an appetite. Looking forward to a little afternoon delight. Rubbin’ sticks and stones together makes the sparks ingite. And the thought of rubbin’ you is getting so exciting. Sky rockets in flight. Afternoon delight. Afternoon delight. Afternoon delight. Afternoon delight. Afternoon delight.
Isn’t that what this is all about? Each of us unstoppably pursuing our individual conception of Afternoon Delight. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s more complicated than that. It’s not.
Now, listen to this. Some party or parties
are busily preparing a little welcome committee in the Sunshine State.
The main doors, and even some side doors,
are heavily embellished with goblins and fuzzy frills.
– You know what I mean? – Yeah, I know what you mean.
Hang on now, brother, hang on….
This is California. We don’t call them mothers or speed freaks around here.
But we’re gonna do what you haven’t been able to do. We’re gonna stop him for good.
Yes, we’ve been previously informed of all that.
Thank you, Nevada….
All righty! Good morning to all you folks out there.
Sunday morning here, with all men of goodwill,
and some of evil will thrown in for good measure.
All peace-loving Christians getting ready to go to church this morning,
and here I am, yours truly, yeah, Super Soul, bantering the stream of unconsciousness
and peddling his labels for the sake of good music
to all you listeners out there.
But I’m here on Sunday for the first time in my life,
and for the very first time this KOW radio station begins,
not only to DJ and to do my own thing, but to tell you a little story.
Now let’s start at the beginning. But before we start,
here’s some early Sunday morning wake-up music….
And today, in a beautiful gesture made by beautiful people,
in beautiful downtown Goldfield,
this radio station was named KOWalski, in honour of the last American hero,
to whom speed means freedom of the soul.
The question is not when’s he gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him….
“Freedom is just chaos with better lighting”
― Alan Dean Foster, To the Vanishing Point
kowalski & super soul didn’t figure it then, but they coulda’ butch & sundanced it down to that other, more laid back america….
two-lane blacktop final scene. no audio unfortunately. wait for “the light”. existentialism & auto-mobiles. & the 70’s! ☻
kristofferson’s original version was in this flick: “freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose…” good interview, hellman-kristofferson / two-lane:
Original trailer 1971
Original final scene
Love that movie, I’ve always want to go to that part of Nevada and the rest of the locations and drive those roads.
Super Soul: This radio station was named Kowalski, in honour of the last American hero to whom speed means freedom of the soul. The question is not when’s he gonna stop, but who is gonna stop him.
Take a Vanishing Point road trip
Vanishing Point behind the scenes
Movie locations – Vanishing Point
Nude Motorcycle Rider: Is there something I can do for you?
Kowalski: Well, like what?
Nude Motorcycle Rider: Like anything you want.
@Tor – That movie is special to me. Why? Because when it came out I was working in the LA County jail and locked in with 150 trustees in their dorm 8 hours a day. In exchange for their being nice and not making my day miserable I offered a late night big screen viewing of Vanishing Point. A gaggle of nuns at the convent could not have been more cooperative.
Maybe this insane episode we’re experiencing is some kind of test. If they get us to capitulate, then the rest of the world will be easy for them.
The Outer Limits – Feasability Study – 1964
Inhabitants of a suburb find that their six-block neighborhood has been snatched off to an alien planet. The aliens have been rendered immobile by an infection and they need slaves.
They feel that the Earth people would rather become slaves than become infected and thus immobile. The humans surprise them by sacrificing themselves in order to save the rest of humanity from slavery.
Twilight Zone, Outer Limits and similar shows/programs do a good job in looking at society and the human condition.
These programs usually had an ending that was often unexpected.
It is good for people to examine themselves and what they do in life.
I just rewatched season 5 of Twilight Zone. The great thing about fantasy, is it is only tangentially connected to our reality.
Much more can be learned I think, when we just accept the circumstance and premise as presented and let the show take us on a mental journey. The twists really lock the lessons in and drive them home.
There’s something spellbinding about these series, maybe Tavistock helped edit them or something, but they really seem to be about something important and deeply philosophical.
Jewish parents. Purple heart. Bronze star. Shrapnel injury. Demolition specialist and paratrooper. ACLU member. University: BA Literature, Antioch. Teacher at Antioch and Ithaca.
Rod Serling wiki
Seems clover likes posting directly into the trash instead of here where he belongs.
It’s no fun driving in the slow lane or posting to the right article for him.
He’s only happy when he’s impeding others and making it difficult for them to do what they want to do. What a sad way to live.
Calvin and Hobbes and Anarchy
The Real Housewives of Mendocino County
I don’t know that I would fit in even in Mendocino County, hippies I’ve met aren’t as tolerant as they’d have you believe. It does look nice though.
There’s Mendocino Quirky – “Oooh I consume taboo consumer products and dress and behave in an edgy way not every approves of.”
Then theres Tor Quirky – “Get real Dad, I’d like to believe you’ve encouraged me to move out of your house and into a vacant unfurnished rental apartment a few weeks shy of my 16th birthday because it’ll give me a chance to earn my own money and become independent. But seeing as you’ve changed the locks and installed an ADT security system, I’m starting to have my doubts.”
Home School – From Movie 43 – Not Unlike My Childhood
1:23 home schooled kid’s parents wrote “Kevin is a fag” on their refrigerator. Mom knocks books out of his hands and says “dropped your books, fuck face”
guess they wanted him to get the full high school experience, lol.
@ Tor – “The Real Housewives of Mendocino County”? From a valley girl in Switzerland? I am worried for you. But then I read it to the end…..ignore this blog post.
Don’t worry, just watch this performer and performance and surrender to the bright shining future they’ve planned for us:
They’re allowed to contrive all manner of outlandish medical alterations for all kinds of purposes. We’re not allowed to cross a street unless without obeying their signs and devices.
Conchita Wurst – Eurovision 2014 winner – returns home to Austria
Winning song – Rise Like a Phoenix
Pegleg Tor: Hows about we find ourselves some booty.
Captain Blackbeard: Arrgh, matey!
You know who I never considered in the role of Blackbeard? John Malkovich! I haven’t seen anything except the commercial, but I just can’t see how he’s going to pull it off.
Have you seen this “short” – prospective sequel to The Punisher?
changed his title from captain to commodore, ensconced himself on a brick house island (with a few brick house ladies), & it’s sail on….
so-so thru 2 episodes. major plot device is exactly same as in “black sails”…synchronicity or entertainment espionage.
So come on let Clover know. Should he stay or should he go?
Deep in the bowels of this website Clover just said:
“Gold just sits there. Gold or silver is not for me as a major investment.
I am making some money in gold by selling a put that will expire in June. That was the best way to make money in gold.”
– So he is selling naked puts? Isn’t that promising to buy gold at a certain price, say around $1350 an ounce?
– What will he do if gold plummets to $600 an ounce, because Russia, China, India, Brazil, and Iran all make a big move in tandem? Maybe they’d all rather have wheat and soybeans they can eat in case the SHTF?
He’ll have to buy it at market, losing $750 per ounce. How many ounces are we talking here? At least a hundred I would guess.
Let me warn you all, daytrading and daydrinking don’t mix. Sorry, in Clover’s case, it’s day cracksmoking.
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