“Slower EV Adoption” . . .

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An article published the other day by one of Bill Gates’ PR outlets (MSN.com) says the outcome of the presidential selection a little less than a year from now may result in “slower EV adoption.”

As if people were choosing to take home a new babe from the orphanage  – as opposed to being pushed into accepting an EV in their garage via the elimination of alternatives to them.

The Left – which depends on force because it cannot rely on persuasion – always soft-sells the force it relies upon, as via gentle-and-voluntary-sounding manipulative language. People do not “adopt” cars. And no one is being prevented from buying an EV – if they want one.

The issue at hand – that will be decided by the next selection – is whether people who don’t want to “adopt” an EV will be prevented by the apparatus of the state from having the option not to. It depends on whether the Left re-selects itself to control the apparatus of the state, which it probably will – having not only done it last time but having gotten away with it last time. Expecting a thief who goes uncaught – and unpunished – to not steal again is like expecting Lucy to hold the football still this time, so that poor ol’ Charlie Brown can kick it, this time.

Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares laid it all out the other day in an interview published by Automotive News. “There are two important elections next year, ” he noted. “The European Parliament elections in June and the U.S. elections in November. It could be that politics will be different then.” 

Italics added.

Politics, indeed.

The only reason almost all of us haven’t yet been pushed into “adopting” EVs is because the Orange Man’s politics were different. At least in the sense that high tide is different from low tide. He did not eliminate the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) regulations (another mildly styled expression of force) that are being used to push people to “adopt” EVs by making it almost-impossible for the car manufacturers to offer anything that isn’t one.

But he did hold them back for awhile.

He gave a breather – to Stellantis, in particular – that allowed the latter to continue selling cars like the Charger and Challenger for Four More Years. Actually, until this year. Next year will be different, of course – because the politics changed in 2020. Someone with different politics was selected – and he was able to do what the Orange Man might have prevented from happening. Just as the Orange Man might have prevented the selection of his replacement by not having selected Dr. Fauci to run his government – and allowing a selection that lasted for a year rather than a day, in which votes were counted but never vetted.

Orange Main could have ended the regulations – as they are so blandly styled – that are being used to force people to “adopt” EVs by systematically pushing alternatives to them off the market (and, inevitably, off the road).

He might have done it by asking an obvious question, directed at the public: Have any of you ever been denied the opportunity to buy a car that gets high gas mileage? Or an electric car?

If the answer is no – which of course, it is – then why is the government pretending otherwise? And why is the government using force to supersede people’s choices? Does anyone like being pushed to “adopt” anything?

And if it has to be pushed, what does that say about the thing being pushed? It says that people have to be pushed, else most of them won’t.

And that says a lot about the ones doing the pushing, doesn’t it?

The car industry has been pushed so hard and for so long it stopped pushing back years ago. As the MSN piece puts it: “Stellantis is currently running with its Dare Forward 2030 plan, which aims for all sales of new cars and trucks in Europe and half in the United States to be fully-electric models.”

As if this were the result of something other than a push.

And it is something worse. Not the obsequious, we-don’t-want-any-trouble-here Ned Beatty (in Deliverance) language.  “Dare Forward”? What, exactly is “daring” about not only doing what you’ve been told to do but making as if you are daring for doing it? As if it were your decision.

As if you took a risk by taking it.

You know what would have been actually daring? How about the people running the car companies telling the state to stop pushing them to make products their customers aren’t interested in “adopting”?

How about pushing back?

Bill Ford – great-grandson of the company’s founder – says he “never thought I would see the day when our products were so heavily politicized.” 

Well, that’s what happens when you don’t stand up to people intent upon pushing you – and your customers – to “adopt” that which they do not want but which you (finger-crossed) hope they’ll still buy after the state pushes the alternatives they do want off the market.

The next selection will determine whether this pushing continues – or is pushed back against.

It all comes down to who is “adopted” a month less than a year from now.

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  1. The Ford-scion laddie doth protest too much.

    Reading may be fundamental, but comprehension is optional – & not selectable, or available for purchase (@any price):

    How the jungle operates is how the jungle operates. And that SOPeration scales, both upwards & downwards.

    I had a sideline once upon a many years ago time. Craft work. Tiny. Home-based. And the whole of the wholesale-to-retail-storefront “industry” in which my teensy efforts were plied was no gargantua like auto-making is.

    Even so, fractal turtles all the way down/up (have you ever seen a 100+ year old alligator snapping turtle? Huge. Horrible. Do *not* let one of those grotesque monsters exhale into your face!), the “essential” storefronts got together & ultimatum’d the biggest wholesaler to cease/desist selling supply to all the little/r “non-essential” “garage” operations. “Let it be written, let it be done,” saith Pharaoh. “I wash my hands,” said Pilate.

    That corruption isn’t just for pandemics resetting greatly – it is reflex-perennial. People, rule-proving exceptions aside (which is where those rare folk reside – waaaaay off to the side), are turds of a feather that flock everything up together.

    Some say this. Some say that. Yeas & nays. Republicans & democrats. Obverse & reverse & there ain’t no silver nor gold in them kings shillings coins. Here’s some spilled ink compare-trasting Tucker & Musk, 48 & Tesla, a number & a name (among other billions) stolen:

    “At the time, the U.S. government commandeered the auto industry and turned it into the Arsenal of Democracy.” :


  2. I just bought a 2023 Nissan Titan. It is my first “big” pick up truck and I love the roar of the 8 cylinder engine. I like that it is basically the same truck as it was in 2016 (and almost 2003). I am happy to support the fossil fuel industry.

    I bought it because I can see – as can anyone else paying attention – what is coming (and may already be here). More vehicles no one wants to buy. The sales guy where I bought my Titan told me that they can’t sell any EVs; that they still have some 2021s on their lot (I bought the Titan yesterday). Yet the government keeps pushing them. The market will correct – it always does – but I am worried it may take a decade or so until the reality of EVs hits Main Street. So now I have an tough, useful, hard to kill, ICE that should last through the reality readjustment.

    It reminds me of the time a decade or so ago when some of my younger co-workers talked about how in 2020 they would be able to call a self driving to their home and have a non-stressful commute to work while sleeping, being on social media, or working. I started laughing and said that will never happen – at least not in your working life. Way too complex for urban driving. They basically said “ok, boomer” ( I am not a boomer BTW). Well, here we are – still no self driving cars picking them up – and no mention of their lost dreams and failed hopes. Reality has set in.

    We are in the same space with EV. Hopes and dreams are fading. Reality is starting to set in.

    We just need a car companies to run a Hardee’s style marketing campaign selling big engined ICEs that are the antithesis of an EV – like the giant burger ads Hardee’s pushed a. Few years ago. My guess is that they would see a shit ton of cars for a while, because that is what people seem to want. Who will be the first to do it?

    • Good stuff, Eric!

      I wish I could afford a Titan (or an older Tundra) but – thanks to all the “contributions” I’m obliged to make, I’ll have to stick with my little Frontier for the foreseeable future.

  3. Those poor sicko’s.

    Electronic vehicle adoption won’t happen on the timetable they demand! And I’m sure Kill Gates is just as upset about it as I am, in the opposite direction.

    This is good news, to an extent. It reminds me about when Ford decided that they wanted to make a World Car that could be sold exactly the same way in every nation where they operate in the world. Except they would have to make some stupid modification for those British Empire nations because they don’t know how to drive on the right side of the road.

    Hopefully, before the next selection happens, the Supreme Court will make the right decision in their case about Chevron deference. But hope is not a great strategy. On that count, I’m seriously wanting the Court to render the entire administrative state illegal, as some of the haters are suggesting would be the End of America. But they don’t even KNOW what America is.

    I’ve ranted long enough in too many directions, so I’ll hang up now.

  4. How much of this have the car companies brought upon themselves, going back decades and are they still in on the regulation scheme?

    The big three have always favored regulations as a way to make it impossible for any new competition to enter the market. Now it’s biting them in the ass, but it’s still a bit of a catch 22 isn’t it? If they ever do drop all the regulations and allow actual competition they will most likely get their asses handed to them because of their union issues/debt structure.

    These companies have a ton of baggage, super high overhead, etc., could they compete without the hand that feeds them, probably not, which is why they dare not bite back. Keep in mind that none of the big three are calling for the boot to be taken from their neck in regards to e-cars, they still want the SAFETY regulations in place that keep new competition out.

    What if they do believe that e-cars are the future, especially for in-city driving but know fully well that without uncle-dick’s regulations they couldn’t compete in that market?

    Also it would hardly be green if I could use the $7,500 towards a $15,000 Chinese e-car or it’s North American equivalent, because then people would never use public transportation and with more people than ever driving they would have to power the entire New e-car industry with coal or nuclear. E-cars only really make sense in the city as a way to keep air quality higher but the overall effect would be far more coal being burnt, that’s if you allowed American companies to make super cheap e-cars and if you designed city traffic around them. Eventually used e-cars would be selling for a next to nothing but they would also be less and less efficient, using even more coal.

    E-cars Must remain expensive for that very reason. Once again the car companies will benefit from SAFETY regulations and from the “Must do it all syndrome”. They will get Uncle-Dick to keep them affordable by using “incentives” like the $7,500, etc., which they alone will continue to receive.

  5. I keep wondering when is somebody going to have the balls to sue uncle (state and/or fed) for all these edicts. Surely harm can be proven. That the OEMs haven’t fought back more is very disappointing. I guess that’s what happens when 2 out of the “big 3” are bailed out.

  6. Ive been seeing all these countertop propane size gas ranges and wondering why they have become so popular. Costco has a lot of them displayed right in the front of the store. Is it because a lot of people are forced to have electric ranges and they really still want gas stoves to cook on?

    • I have never been to a Costco. Saw the inside of one on the TeeVee once, though.

      Are the countertop propane size gas ranges used in RV’s?
      Lots of RV’s out there… as primary & secondary homes.

      Might be too, for houses split up and used as AirB&B’s?
      Or, tiny homes used as AirB&B’s?

      Or, for Da Kidz who moved back home & live in da BSMT?

      ‘What Happens When Millions of Renters Can No Longer Afford High Rents and Move Back Home?’

      …”There are also millions of renters who live alone, some percentage of which might be persuaded to accept a roommate if their income/finances deteriorate. Of the 38 million single-person households, how many would welcome another occupant? Retirees with limited income might welcome paying boarders, and single elderly might offer free housing to younger family members in exchange for help around the house.”…


  7. Here’s a really good summary of reasons not to buy an EV, from a poster in a youtube video:


    “Let’s see…I won’t buy an EV because:

    Too expensive to buy
    Too expensive to insure
    Lack of adequate charging infrastructure
    Lack of security at charging stations
    No restrooms at charging stations
    Recharging time takes too long
    Long lines in some states to access charging stations
    Poor range/lots of range anxiety
    Poor resale value
    Cannot be easily towed
    $20k to $30k to replace a battery
    Possible spontaneous fires that can melt concrete re-rods
    Accident repair shops won’t touch an EV
    The electrical grid in the US will not support high volumn EV charging demand.
    Poor cold weather performance
    Poor towing performance on EV trucks
    Poor initial quality issues
    Biden is an idiot…

    And this list took me only 5 minutes to generate.”

    • Hi Ron,

      This has been in the works – incrementally – since at least the early 1970s. It is now approaching End Game. This is what inevitably comes of allowing these Leftists an inch (however seemingly reasonable/harmless at the time). Understand their trick. It is to get you to accept their premise, which they then expand relentlessly and which you are hard-pressed to oppose, having already agreed with them on the “need” for whatever it was originally. It’s just a “mask”… a small ask. Only the rich will pay income taxes . . . “emissions” must be regulated…

      • RE: “It is now approaching End Game.”

        It sure seems that way. And, when the monsters run out of other people’s money, their ability to do Jack, vaporizes.

        ‘Confetti Dollar End of Ponzi Scheme – Bill Holter’

        …”The US Treasury can certainly pay back in dollars, confetti dollars that certainly will have no purchasing power. What that does is it shuts the credit spigot off to the biggest debtor in the world. The biggest debtor in the world is the US Treasury.”…


        • Why, only the end of Western civilization, silly.

          Actually, the “typical leftist” has no idea why they are programmed to espouse the ideas that they so loudly and vehemently shout. The typical leftist is just a useful idiot, fed simple reasons (climate change, racism, etc.) to push for more restrictive, draconian policies which further an agenda of total control of society and the absolute stamping out of freedom. These brainwashed morons do not realize that they will be caught up in the destruction which they helped wrought as well as their “enemies” on the right.

  8. One nice thing you can say about the Parasite-Left is that they are very good at manipulating the mentally retarded masses…Especially woman and children. The beatings will continue until you retards “adopt” EV crematoriums. The Parasite-Left is also telling the retards via their retard box broadcasts/programming, that Trump will murder his enemies via firing squad if elected. The programmable Dunning-Kruger NPCs are gasping and clutching their pearls, no doubt.

    • Hi Debited,

      The Left uses immaturity as a weapon. It relies on an immature person’s resentment, sense of entitlement and “I want it now” mentality. It has been wildly successful. In part, by using government schooling to arrest the development of kids into adults. It was once common for boys to assume the mantle of manhood at 14 or 15; they are now “kids” well into their mid-late 20s (if not longer). Kids also used to be taught to think rather than what to believe. A child of normal intelligence can be taught to reason by the age of 10 or so. After that, he can assimilate/assess and make use of the knowledge he acquires.

      Government “schooling”is arguably the biggest reason for the success of the Left in undermining what was America.

      • I am going to do everything in my power to have my grandkids homeschool in a deep red area that welcomes such things, assuming, god-willing I have them.

  9. Doesn’t take a Harvard graduate to easily see that EVs don’t move that fast off of the sales lot.

    I know I am not in the market for one, never will be. You can give me one, won’t touch the white elephant. The Tesla will be immediately for sale.

    I’ll give it up for adoption.

    Musk is going to give Bibi a helping hand to heal Gaza or something.

    Killing must be fun for those nuts. Those whatever they are now need to adopt policies that are kinder and gentler. Especially towards other people.

    How can what has been done ever work? It can’t and won’t.

  10. Governments are enacting so many absolutely stupid regulations that they say have the force of law which is false. That is THE true definition of color of law. Illegal under US statute.

    We have the illegal immigration that is pushed by those very same governments. 300 million Americans have no say in who comes in the nation,,, only one person,,, the President. Who or what gave him the authority? He has the Border Patrol acting as travel agents to these undesirables. They, Border Patrol, actually took a bulldozer to a fence keeping the violators out. They say they are only doing what they’re told. Where have we heard that before? What they are really doing is destroying American culture and contributing to financial ruin.

    It took only nine months for the debt to reach 33 trillion. It will likely be 34 trillion by the end of the year.

    Look at the Irish. Their protesting the immigration because of some immigrant loony stabbing school children. Then the Washington Post claimed it wasn’t a immigrant, that it was a citizen who has been in the country for 20 years. Turns out they lied, surprise there!, It was a immigrant who had been in Ireland for 23 years and never held a job living off the taxpayers. So what does the Irish gov do? They go after the protesters calling them far right.

    So what is it that is making all Western governments turn on their people? Got me? And making matters worse the protesters burn down peoples cars and businesses never touching the buildings that house the trash legislators causing all the trouble. Ireland is now in the process of passing a ‘law’ that makes protesting hate speech with jail time.

    Watch this Tucker interview. 24 minutes but covers what these rogue governments are doing.


  11. I don’t know what people (especially those in charge of automakers) thought would happen once they began building and trying to sell products that very few people either want or can afford. This is kind of like wondering that would happen if you drop a bowling ball off the top of a 5 story building….one thing’s for sure – the ball isn’t going to go up!

    But what I am wondering is if this automotive journey towards insolvency will lead to a recovery? As everyone knows, back the late 70’s automakers began producing scores of small cars that got high gas mileage. This being a response to the oil crisis. And unlike now, people were buying those cars because they actually saved them money. But eventually, once the oil market stabilized, people began buying larger vehicles and the SUV craze began.

    Of course that recovery (from a predominance of tiny, fuel efficient vehicles) wasn’t impeded by the government.

    This time a recovery will hinge on who gets selected next year, and eventually there will be more and more pushback from consumers. Back in the early 80’s, there were still some big cars and trucks available, and as people began buying more of those, the automakers responded by making more. I am just hoping that this time we are in now will, like the oil crisis of the 70’s, eventually pass. Even if it means some American automakers going under….and new ones replacing them (that make cars and trucks that most people want and can afford).

  12. Here is an interesting thing that insurance companies are now doing, at least Citizens Insurance…inspecting the inside of your home.


    I can’t but be appalled that not one person in the article mentioned the invasion of privacy. Is the insurance company taking pictures? Do they see your gun cabinet? Your gas stove? Your prepper pantry? Does the government and mortgage companies have access to this information? You betcha.

    My personal favorite take away from the article “42% of rates were decreased through the audit”. If my math is correct that would mean 58% of rates have increased due to the “inspections”. How convenient. Not to mention that there is now a list of all your possessions.

    • Citizens Insurance is run by the State of Florida and is the carrier of last resort in the state. The tradeoff for the privacy invasion is that, technically speaking, Citizens is the only non-insolvent carrier in Florida and the policy holders will be first in line for settlement in an Andrew or Charley scale disaster.

      Citizens is also pricey. My last renewal quote was $5000 for coverage in 2011, after several years of limited storm activity, but, fortunately, we sold our house outside Tampa before the renewal was due.

      • Hi Roscoe,

        That makes sense, since it is government run and they have their grubby hands on everything. Do you think the goal is to sway people to look elsewhere or to drop coverage completely?

        I believe DeSantis mentioned back in March that even this insurance program was insolvent, but it was a last resort since so many insurance carriers have pulled out of Florida.

        • Citizens wants to shed as many policies to private state-chartered carriers as possible.

          The FL Legislature has kept kicking the can down the road since 2004-05 when the state had serious storm years. The politicians have lucked out for the most part, but last September’s storm hitting Fort Myers Beach was a serious test which was bad but could have been much worse.

  13. All it would take would be for one bold CEO to say ‘enough’. We will make what people want. We will not pay your fines. The rhetoric would be ugly, but no politician with a factory in their area would go a long with closing it down.
    Then maybe we get 2, 3 more and it’s over.

    • If a CEO says ‘enough’ publicly, he/she/it/they/them/we and their extended family will be terrorized until they are bankrupt and off themselves.

      The Clintonistas won using their mass media and law courts.

      • Hi Debited,

        That may be so. But – sometimes – someone’s got to stand up and take the risk. And even the hit. Because if no one does, we all go down. But if someone stands up, more are likely to. That is how political movements win.

      • And why i said bold. seems to me we are at a ‘founding fathers’ moment where they pledged:
        “We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes, And Our Sacred Honor.” All fifty-six signers put their lives on the line to preserve and protect the freedoms they felt were the God-given unalienable rights of all people.”

        • Indeed, Chris –

          I am no hero and badly want to just live my life in peace – and be a self-supporting, bothering-no-one kind of guy. But I am willing to risk it all to avoid losing it all.

    • I wish you were right but, ain’t gonna happen.

      Toyoda only said hybrids were better than EVs and he was gone faster than shit through a goose.


      No CEO who wants to implement such a plan will be retained and they all know it. Sadly, it’s going to take a massive collapse to end the madness. Blackrock, Vanguard and StateStreet own just about everything. Until they are dissolved and true diversity in ownership of the world returns, we will suffer.

      • I agree with you, Mark. When someone stands against the narrative “they” will remove them anyway possible.

        Nothing proved this better than the Plandemic. If you were a doctor that spoke out against the jab it cost you your business and license. If you were an anti masker it cost you the ability to get food and supplies. If you were against the jab it cost you your job. If you talked against the propaganda it cost your your family and friends.

        Does anyone truly believe that if these same Draconian measures were to be implemented today that more would stand up for truth and freedom? Not a chance. It would be the same lot of us that it was back then. Why? Because, people hate to be inconvenienced. They will go along to get along. They are owned by the system, therefore, they will not fight against it. They are also a bunch of pussies (but we already knew that).

        Sure, everyone comes out today saying that they knew the government was lying and they won’t fall for it again. Yeah, they will. Why? Because what has changed? Have they created parallel systems to withstand government scrutiny and intervention? Have they pulled their kids out of public indoctrination camps? Have they started focusing on self reliance?

        They talk the talk, but refuse to walk the walk. I am not holding my breath for the average American (or CEO) to wake up. The bottom line is always more important to them than any principles they hold.

  14. Yes, how about pushing back indeed? The auto industry should have collectively gone Galt ages ago, and the fact that it didn’t means that at this stage, I have zero sympathy for automakers, since they have essentially become enablers of government policy. To wit: There wouldn’t have been any EVs for consumers to “adopt” if the auto industry had decided against making them in the first place.

    And in what universe is it OK for EV automakers not to fix the charging time problem? It is clear that the automakers can’t be bothered to fix the century-old problem of ridiculously long EV charging times, because the government provides them with an artificial, coercive market in which they can flog their battery-powered abominations. This leads to automakers getting away with skimping on R&D while simultaneously helping government reduce people’s mobility.

    Cheapskate Carlos over at French Leyland (aka Stellantis) has chosen to be part of the problem, and for that he deserves to lose his job. His “Dare Forward” plan should be renamed the “Bend Forward” plan. Let’s hope he enjoys it, because nobody else will…

  15. “Orange Main could have ended the regulations”

    This presumes Trump was motivated by ideology. He wasn’t (and isn’t). Life was better under Trump for sure, but his attempt to drain the swamp failed miserably.

    Ramaswamy promises to rid us of federal bureaucrats and their unconstitutional laws. He’s gotten a lot of static (even from conservatives) about the last number of the ssn approach. I say it’s good as any.

    • Ramaswamy is an immature insincere douchecanoe who will turn around and kowtow to the asshats at the WEF the moment he gets elected. All he ever does is say things without conviction.

  16. Is this the same way we are adopting led bulbs. Because there are no incandescent bulbs left in stores? Or how people are being pushed to buy all electric new production homes? Because the new homes have no gas lines? Um ok. But how come expensive custom homes have uber expensive 8 burner Wolf gas ranges. And how come people who have a lot of money own both electric cars and gas cars. Just wondering. Since the government says all electric is so much better. Usually rich people always want the best of everything.

    • That is a very prime example of the old saying watch what people do, not what they say. The lefties in charge are the biggest hypocrites the world has ever known.

      WEAR YOUR MASK! Gavin Newsome caught on camera in a group of maskless people at the most expensive restaurant in California. Ditto Pelsoi, etc.

      Get rid of your CO2 footprint plebes, sell your cars! John Kerry, DiCaprio, etc. jet off to the next climate crisis meeting or Davos forum in a jet that spews more carbon in a single trip than your car will in several years.

      Eat the bugs peasant! They are eating grass fed Kōbe beef.

      “Rule for thee, but not for me” Same old, same old. This is not new, it is just new for us in the US as we at least use to pretend the peons had some freedoms. The mask is totally off now.

  17. @Eric – Bill Ford proved to be too incompetent to run the family business so they kicked him up to “Executive Chairman” and brought in Alan Mulally from Boeing as CEO in 2006.

    The current CEO is Jim Farley, cousin of Chris Farley who was creator of the “van by the river” sketch during his days in Chicago’s Second City.

    Chris Farley also starred in the 90s classic “Tommy Boy”, which makes the family ties really interesting if you watch the flick now, in the wake of everything which has taken place in the car industry in the last 20 years.

    The character to listen to in “Tommy Boy” is Dan Aykroyd’s Zalinsky, however. One line in particular really sums up the current attitude of the US manufacturers towards their customers and wouldn’t make it into a film today.

  18. How long until these authoritarians claim that pushing EVs is “For the greater good” or that they never “forced” EVs on anyone despite zealously pushing them on EVERYONE after the Biden Thing got into office. They’ve been pushing EVs with the same cult like zeal they were pushing COVID “vaccines”, and now try to claim they never “forced” anyone to get them. Try telling that to the countless numbers of Americans who LOST their jobs or were discharged from the military because they refused to be part of what may well be the BIGGEST public health disaster in decades.

    And for quite a while, that charlatan Tony Fauci was advocating COVID jab mandates for people to work or participate in society, using the excuse of “It’s for the Greater good”. Now he claims he supports people “choosing” whether they want to get any new booster jabs.

  19. Eric, the car companies are owned by the same people that own everything else, the people that benefit from the overall agenda of herding everybody into 15 minute cities. They can afford to sacrifice the car industry in the name of the greater goal. Your question as to why the car industry doesn’t stand up doesn’t make any sense in this context. The car execs are bought and paid for, literally. A better question to ask would be, why is nobody seeing this overall agenda and protesting it? But this is essentially the same as the perennial question of why is nobody waking up, so often asked by people who do see what’s going on.

    • Hi Yuri,

      I hear you – and agree. I’ve been covering the industry for a long time (30 years-plus) and can tell you and everyone else from my own first-person, I-was-there account that the execs gave up and gave in back in the ’90s. It has gotten worse ever since.

  20. I’m not too sure about the election having anything to do with “slower adoption”. Biden has already played his part, by making most people to poor to buy one, if they wanted one. Although Trump may make cars people can afford no longer “illegal”, not sure that will affect “slower EV adoption”. The point MSN misses is that most people who want and can afford one, already have one. Nothing to do with who lives in the White House.
    I’ve read that fire departments have taken to dumping a burning EV into a lake or a river. What are the toxic effects of that on the river or lake? I guess the greens are OK with such toxicity, as long as it doesn’t include “Carbon”. In other words, they are sick in the head.

    • Hi John,

      You raise some good points. Still, I wonder what the effect on EV production would be if (a) the federal tax kickbacks went away and (b) all of the state-level edicts that say only EVs may be sold in those states after 2030 (or whenever) were never issued …

      Put another way: If this EV thing had never been pushed, would there be any EVs on the market?

      I very much doubt it.

      Even – especially – as regards Teslas. Take away the “carbon credit” scam that Musk used to extort the funds for his company and take away the government kickbacks for the buyers and he probably would never have been able to sell more than a handful of converted to EV Lotuses to a handful of rich morons who were willing to pay the full cost of them.

      • No doubt, without government assistance, there would be no EVs. But there are, and that is what I’m speaking to. While the withdrawal of tax incentives and subsidy would make even fewer able to afford one, I think that market is close to, if not actually saturated anyway.

    • I see the same thing in “green” energy. Slowing demand and higher interest rates.

      Say’s Law has hit its peak with this high cost, low return green fad.


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