Queuing Up For a Charge

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The wait to recharge a device is making it hard to sell devices to people uninterested in waiting around for a device to recover charge. Compounding the problem is the wait for those ahead in line to finish charging their devices.

You’ve already been waiting for half an hour or longer to plug your device in while the device ahead of you finishes charging. At last, that device unplugs and now it’s your device’s turn! Except the owner of another device beat you to the umbilicus – and plugged in his device.

Fight have broken out over this.

Understandably. It is called charge  rage.

Most people haven’t  got the additional time to wait – on top of the time they’ve already spent waiting. And they’re already testy on account of that.

Also, many EV charge stations are not designed intelligently – like gas stations – to accommodate queues. At a gas station, you pull up behind someone else, who pulls away after they’re done filling up. At many “fast” charging locations, you pull up (or back into) a parking spot – because of course you’ll be there for awhile – and plug into the totem pole. Device owners sometimes leave their device there to charge while they go somewhere else in the meanwhile.

When the device finally finishes charging – or rather, when it has finished partially charging, as it’s not possible to fully charge a device “fast” – its owner pulls it out or backs it out, leaving an open spot for other device drivers to fight over the spot, like a busy shopping mall parking lot.

Well, why not just build enough charging-parking spots to accommodate the devices? Well, see that part about how long it takes to partially recharge a device. A gas station with six pumps can fully fuel six vehicles in about five minutes, allowing six more to fuel up – and so on. And six pumps don’t take up much space.

But because it takes so long to charge a device, six chargers aren’t enough to partially charge more than six devices in about 15 minutes. You’d need at least three times the number of chargers to achieve throughput comparable to a gas station with six pumps. And that would require three times the physical space – not to mention the capacity to charge that many devices all at once.

But – good news, device owners! Tesla has announced it will shortly be offering device owners the chance to queue up for a charge at its so-called Superchargers.

Of course, they’re already doing just that – a queue being precisely that. One rarely has to queue up for a wait at a gas station.

But what Tesla is offering device drivers is an orderly queue – one in which no one can cut in line. You take your place electronically – via an app that schedules your place in line relative to others queueing up in line for their chance to wait.

When a Supercharger station is full, and more Tesla drivers arrive, they generally try to form a physical queue at the station. However, the parking lot can sometimes be limited, leading to issues with people cutting ahead,” says Elektric – a web site devoted to devices. 

An interesting – because unspoken – aspect of this queuing up is that it reveals just how plugged-in these devices are, even when they are not physically plugged in. In order for the electronic queuing of devices to work, the Tesla Hive Mind has to know the order in which devices queued up. In other words, the Tesla Hive Mind knows when your device arrived relative to other devices. This is perhaps something device owners don’t mind. But the rest of us probably don’t  like the idea of say Exxon knowing you just arrived at one of their gas stations – down to the second.

There is another interesting unspoken aspect of this.

Implicit in the electronic enforcement of queue position is Tesla’s ability to punish line-jumpers by preventing them from charging their devices ahead of others. They might physically seize the charge nozzle but it won’t deliver any charge if the person jumped ahead of his place in the queue.

And this brings up another interesting and unspoken thing about charging devices – not just Teslas and not just at Tesla’s so-called Superchargers (the verbiage is interesting because of the etymological hijacking of a combustion-engined mechanical accessory that makes engines produce more power by compressing the incoming air/fuel charge). It is that irrespective of what type of device you have, the only way you can pay for a “fast” charge is electronically.

Device totems only accept plastic. And some not even that. You must download the app to your other device. The one you carry with you in your pocket or purse. It communicates electronically with the device you are trying to plug your device into. Which then plugs into your bank account, to charge you.

What are the implications of not being able to pay cash – as you can still for gas?

Well, for one thing,  the Hive Mind knows you’re trying to buy charge and knows how much, too.  More to the point, the Hive Mind knows it’s you. Very much unlike the anonymity of handing the cashier a $20.

The other thing about it is that implicit in all electronically controlled transactions is the latent power to deny them. The Hive Mind decides you’ve had enough charge today – and that’s all the charge you’ll get today. Or maybe no charge at all.

Because “climate change.”

It’s almost as if people – those who own devices, at any rate – are being conditioned to accept electronically controlled payment, without the considering the implications of that. Which is really interesting given many of these device owners have transitioned from regarding Elon Musk as their patron saint to Satan, incarnate.

One derives a nice sense of warmth inside imagining them worrying about what Musk might do to their devices – and their ability to charge them up – now that he’s no longer on their side.

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63 COMMENTS

  1. quoting Eric – “The Hive Mind decides you’ve had enough charge today – and that’s all the charge you’ll get today. Or maybe no charge at all. Because “climate change.””

    Yep, you nailed it. But it’s even worse. The reason for the feverish rush to develop some new computer/Ai/technocrat system is to regain control of humanity. The old guard is being swept away, the last popes and the end of the Church is here, the age of faith slipping away – people no longer believe in the control document any longer (the so-called holy book), they are more rational and more skeptical of religious assertions. Thus the mad rush to Borg Hive mind technocratic control.

    If you read Caesar’s Messiah, Atwill proves the Gospels are written by Rome. The Roman State wrote Matthew Mark Luke and John are all pseudonames for writers on the roman court. Atwill PROVES the 3 year ministry of Christ is the 3 year military campaign of Titus Flavian. Jesus making fishers of men at the sea of Galilee is the first battle between the Judean rebels and the Roman army, they fished the dead bodies out of the water. Thus Titus makes fishers of men (dead Jews the Romans killed) – grim satire.

    The Gospels are fake, Jesus never existed, no one needs to be saved because Yahweh is also fiction – no one needs to saved from a fictional fire breathing sky god. The whole idea being saved a big ruse to own you, saved from what? God? No such thing as a judging god – just a false cultural idea passed down from the Bronze Age when men feared thunder and lightning. The only place you ever get jude-icated, is in a Jewish court system on earth. Not in some next life.

    So to capture men again, impose elite control over the masses, they invented another scam – global warming, they claimed CO2 was warming earth, they said they must regulate everything we do, end private transportation, turn the thermostat down, stop gas ranges – to save the planet. The invisible man in the sky who had 10 things he did not want you to do was replaced with invisible CO2 which would boil us all alive. Al Gore said last year the oceans were boiling from AGW. Note the control mechanism is always invisible, there is no way to test the claim.

    George Carlin on God
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMO_N7B8go8

    But now they have a new way to enslave us, Ai and quantum computing. Soon they will know you better than you, they will be able to predict crimes, soon every aspect of your life will be known, regulated, monitored, canceled if need be – if you do not obey you will be canceled. Ai the new god in the cloud watching everything. They will tell you lie after lie in order to justify their new levels of totalitarian controls, your freedom to do anything will be crushed by lunatics at Microsoft, Google, and Meta – all Jewish run totalitarian corporations. Wrong thought the worst crime of all – which is why all my blogs were taken down.

    The promise of eternal life in heaven will be now eternal sentence in a 15 minute city hell. No escape, no going beyond the fence, the outdoors prohibited – the last thing they would ever want is for you to see nature, to see animals running around free, with no clothes, no fences, no rules, no god, no Big Brother on the Telescreen. Soon you will come to the same conclusion as I did, earth is hell and the only way out of hell is to never exist here, no future lives here, no incarnation here. The last place any free soul wants to come back to is earth. God help the free soul on earth who experienced the freedom of movement in an ICE auto, only to have it taken away by a fucking Tesla.

    And your free soul bears mentioning, why in the hell are you here anyways? The worst torture of all time is sending free soul beings to a place that is intolerant of freedom. Here is the philosophical question: why don’t we just accept slavery? What makes us resist, why do we even want freedom in the first place? This longing for freedom is the #1 concern of our ruling overlords, they must deal with it in order to control us – thus the need for religion promising eternal life, you get fooled into believing eternal life in the next life (because this place sucks). If your soul is incarnating, you already have eternal life, no one can take that from you, thus the promise of a next life is a ruse to get control of you. I expect fully that the psychopaths like Bill Gates will find a new way to spin heaven, to sucker you into believing into tolerating the trap he has laid. The promise of heaven is the biggest lie of all time, and it worked, so expect them to repacked it somehow to get us back under the fold.

    Christians ought to wake up, the promise of heaven is a big fat lie. The biggest lie of all time is that if you believe in the Gospels you can have eternal life. Just be a good little slave in the meantime, while you suffer hell on this Jew infested planet, you can imagine freedom after your dead. The joke is on you, going to heaven to be with the Jew Jesus would be the worst possible place to spend eternity. Earth is hell because of Jews, going to the next life to be with Jews(Christians are Judaic converts) is no escape. I have to say, the last place I would ever want to spend eternity is in heaven with my God fearing relatives. I do not want to be with them now, which is why I fled Ohio for Oregon.

  2. I’m well aware that electronic transactions can be denied, because it’s happened to me. It wasn’t anything malevolent, either; it wasn’t malicious. My bank has blocked transactions because it tripped their fraud alert system. I remember one time when I was at Wally World trying to buy a Chromebook, and my CC was declined! I was like, WTF? I always pay my CC off every month, so I knew it wasn’t for non-payment. I used my debit card to buy the Chromebook. When I got home, my bank had sent a fraud alert, so I had to call them and straighten it out. How the f*ck can Walmart, one of the world’s best known retailers, trip a fraud alert? It’s disconcerting when that happens, especially when you don’t know why.

    I had something similar happen to me late last year. There’s a YouTuber I follow, and I’d write her occasionally in my Instagram. During the last exchange, she was telling me what crypto currencies she and her husband invest in. Guess what? I lost both my IG and FB accounts; they said I was engaging in fraud and deception when I’d done NO SUCH THING! The closest I’d gotten to exchanging anything was that brief exchange about crypto. That wasn’t public, either in a post or a comment. It was in a few DMs, and that was just a brief Q&A. There was no sale of any kind involved. Nevertheless, Meta’s algorithm decided I’d run afoul of their rules, so I lost my long held accounts on both IG and FB. There’s no human I can talk to to straighten it out, either.

    The other side of digital/electronic payments is that, if the system decides you’ve done something wrong, it can totally lock you out without appeal. There’s no human you can talk to to straighten it out; there’s no way to talk to a human to undo the ban. SO! If you’re guilty of Wrongthink, these electronic payment systems can also lock you out and prevent you from transacting any business at all. Not only can the system limit your transactions, either in terms of number per day or amount purchased; not only can it block a given purchase for whatever reason; it can lock you out permanently. Imagine never being able to charge your EV again away from home…

  3. “One derives a nice sense of warmth inside imagining them worrying about what Musk might do to their devices – and their ability to charge them up – now that he’s no longer on their side.”

    You give them too much credit.

    If they were capable of thinking ahead like this, they would never have bought an EV in the first place.

  4. The pro-EV crowd sees all this as either the inevitable new normal that we all have to adjust to, or that this is just a short-term technical issue that will be engineered away. Neither answer is the correct one, which is that really EVs are less than what we have today.

  5. I’m sure some of these Karen & Kevin type snowflakes are just fantasizing about a bold new world of hi-tech EV laden futuristic utopia, but suspect even these morons will have a change of heart when they realize the actual future planned for us is..

    ‘a boot stamping on the human face— forever.’ 😉

    • Karen & Kevin will cheerlead right up to the point when the gate slams shut behind them.
      They think they are the “cool kids”. The restrictions will all be on those deplorable uneducated red people.
      Exactly the type the term “useful idiot” was coined to describe.

  6. There ought to be a law, or an EO, where Tesla is required to provide robot charging monitors at every super charger site. The queue could be based on a victimhood hierarchy giving preference to Trans-gendered storytellers and unemployed philosophers. Girls in flannels and boots, guys in dresses and heels, girls in need of constant abortions, and the non-binary with support animals would round out the list of those given preferential placement for the next available wet socket. Trump-tards, who’ve recently found religion in regards to EVs could be put on a trickle charger.

    I’m an impatient type. Having to wait more than two minutes to queue up for fuel is seriously retarded. The wife and I visited a Subaru dealer in Prescott awhile back. The millennial sales person kept going on about how we should check out some scrub EV they had cluttering up their lot. They would lease it to us for 23O$ a month. When I brought up the general stupidity of battery operated cars, and that CO2 isn’t harmful, he changed gears and started soft selling the wife about the wonderful outlet malls and ‘tapas’ available along all the interstates. Just plug in, go inside, and buy some crap you don’t need or want. I told him one more word about EeeeVeees, and we would leave. My wife doesn’t shop much, and neither one of us know wtf ‘tapas’ are.

  7. Anyone dumb enough to even get involved with EVs deserves this nonsense.

    The reality of owning an EV has been public knowledge a long time, but STILL, people fall in line to drop hard-earned money on these devices, and then become belligerent when they discover the mistake they made.

    Nobody forced you to do it, people. Deal with it. Hopefully, you’ve learned what the rest of us already knew. EVs are just another liberrhoid wet dream.

  8. Trump is ending the charging nightmare:

    The Trump administration is shutting down EV chargers at all federal government buildings and is also expected to sell off the General Services Administration‘s (GSA) newly bought EVs.

    GSA, which manages all federal government-owned buildings, also operates the federal buildings’ EV chargers. Federally owned EVs and federal employee-owned personal EVs are charged on those 8,000 charging ports.

    We the taxpayers paid for that boondoggle!

  9. Musk gives all federal workers 48 hours to explain what they did last week or face consequences — APe News

    Oy vey … Houston, we have a problem. All too many fedgov employees are functional illiterates.

    A guy named David Kadavy offers a course called 100-word writing habit.

    https://kadavy.net/100wordwritinghabit/

    He’s got a point. Look how penning a daily essay has bulked up Eric’s writing muscles. But it won’t work if you have only three neurons. 🙁

    For the federal workfarce [sic], this assignment due at 11:59 pm Monday night is as scary as that classic essay on the first day of fifth grade: What I Did Last Summer.

    Nationwide, tens of thousands are staring at the blinking cursor, having typed their first word (‘I …’), and now are hopelessly stuck. AI can’t help, since it doesn’t know what they do (as far as we know).

    This is a great day to be in the ghostwriting biz, if you have a fertile imagination. Kinda like getting Mom to write What I Did Last Summer for you.

    • I will give Musk the benefit of the doubt and force him to write a 100 word essay on what he did yesterday.

      Doubtful Elon does much more than eating and breathing, his brain is dead, really, not that hard to see. He jumps for joy and that’s about it. Soon after, he jumps sharks.

      The idiot is causing chaos and nothing else.

      If Musk would do anything right, he would return all of his ill-gotten gains to the US Treasury.

      Where it belongs.

      • Very much so!

        As much as I’d love 99% (or more) of government abolished, this DOGE thing is undoubtedly turning up the same as other Musk ‘inventions’ and ‘breakthroughs’.

        In other words, lots of loud announcements, and rapid moving on to the next ‘success’, before anyone can take a closer look. Because if one does actually take a closer look, the mega-savings are in fact not so ‘mega’ and the ‘mistakes’ are accruing at exponential rate.

        The guy IS very good at one thing: He can fool MOST of the people ALL of the time.

        Yeah, and I suffer from a chronic case of cynicism. Sue me.

    • Easy Peasy Jim. They just have to copy and paste this and it’s guaranteed to be accurate for at least 42% on the bureaurats:

      Civil Servant Response To Doge Request:

      Posted on Reddit that I hate Elon

      Posted on X that I hate Elon

      Watched MSNBC anchors who hate Elon

      Took 42 bathroom breaks

      Went to Starbucks 37 times to bitch with my friends about having to come to work

      That was my week, Sir.

      Buh-bye

    • We have to populate a monthly activity report. It’s simple by just looking teams calendar to see who I met with and the subject; the document manager; and software CM tool to see what I’ve checked in. NBD at all.

      Musk says there’s people on the federal payroll who are either dead or don’t exist & this was an easy way to cull the herd.

    • They’ll have no problem describing their daily activities. One is reminded of Kafka’s “The Castle” with all the minions scurrying about, holding meetings, creating synergy. Ultimately accomplishing nothing, but I’ll bet they’re busy!

  10. It’s a school of hard knocks at those charging stations.

    Musk should use Temple Grandin’s technique and corral the Teslas in queue then use a chute to release the queued designated Tesla for charging.

    Elon could learn a thing or two about a thing or two from Temple.

    Just to avoid fussing and fighting.

    Ever notice how blackbirds flock like fish swim in schools?

  11. Somebody has to call the cops to restore order.

    The cops will beat down those who don’t comply.

    It’s a compliance device, get used to it.

    Be patient and complacent, come on.

    Ditch the EV and buy an ICE vehicle.

    Problem solved.

  12. The woke DEI language in tv programming is not aging well. We recentoy caught an episode of Law and Order SVU from 2021. The plot line was racism and Mariska Hargitay was being accused of implicit racial bias by a black internal affairs lady and spent the whole episode in depressing self reflection with her male black colleague. Half the cast members were also wearing masks. The episode was peppered with newly created woke terms seemed completely absurd and was pretty much unwatchable. I also hope someday soon we look back on how they pushed EVs as just as ridiculous.

    • Go back and watch “NCIS New Orleans” episodes from the final 2020-2021 season, with the the proverbial bodies “stacking like cordwood” in the morgue in the first few stories and the coroner always masked early on that year, toeing the line on the state media’s official line on what happened in the city.

      The program received a merciful cancellation at the end of the season.

  13. The woke DEI language in tv programming is not aging well. We recentoy caught an episode of Law and Order SVU from 2021. The plot line was racism and Mariska Hargitay was being accused of implicit racial bias by a black internal affairs lady and spent the whole episode in depressing self reflection with her male black colleague. Half the cast members were also wearing masks- . The episode was peppered with newly created woke terms and pretty much unwatchable. What I got out of it was that if you buy into their premise, the terms they create and the way they define racism, you’ve lost the argument. It is a persons actions that matter not what they unconsciously believe and we don’t need government to control our thoughts.

  14. It’s amazing how much command and control the EV lemmings are willing to bear.

    Wasted time charging – No problem.

    Wasted time searching out functional chargers – no problem.

    Having to queue for chargers and awkward interactions with queue jumpers – no problem.

    Handing over more of your personal autonomy to join a digital queue – no problem.

    Handing over your credit card info to the app so you can pay for the charge – no problem.

    Having the device or the charger determine whether you can charge & how fast you can charge – no problem.

    Reliance on a device where the hive mind can add range in emergency scenarios (as has been done) and can implicitly reduce range should they ever want to (which will eventually be done). This ability control range is effectively a digital kill switch that can completely disable the device – no problem.

    Seeming a trend? These people are slaves to their devices and their masters that truly own the device. These device users gratefully accept whatever their betters allow them.

    • ‘These people are slaves to their devices.’ — Burn It Down

      Heard a horrifying anecdote yesterday, from someone whose 16-year-old grandson just got a learner’s permit.

      The boy repeatedly is getting lost in his own town. Why? Because up till then, while riding around town with a parent driving, he had never looked up from his cell phone.

      Accordingly, the kid has no mental map of the town. He recognizes different places, but doesn’t know how they tie together. A whole generation has grown up navigationally crippled, as digitally-induced dipshits.

      • That’s really pathetic. Wow.

        Speaking of mental memory mapping The Commander was a bit concerned on our summer bike trip to South Dakota. I made a booze stop in Spearfish, The Jug Hut. We walk in, I turn right and walk directly to the shelf for my bottle of Early Times. “We’re 1000 miles from home and you walk right to your favorite hootch, sure we shouldn’t have a talk about your ‘habit’?”. “Hey I always remember where the essentials are!”

      • When I was a teen driver I had to use ADC maps if I was going into unfamiliar territory. My father had tons of those maps, one for every county and the city. Kids today would be totally dumbfounded by paper maps, especially those in books where you had to skip ahead several pages to match the grid so you could continue on your way. Then there were the AAA Trip-tics, where all you had to do was flip the page. And of course huge fold out maps that you re-folded in such a way as to see the route you wanted to take.

        • Yep the analog nav system, called a paper map in hand. For motorcycles a great map was the fold up laminated style – rain intrusion in the saddlebags didn’t result in a fist full of paper pulp.

          • I spent 11 years driving a cab based in Troon, Scotland, 30 years ago. I had a box full of town maps for all the towns in the area. Another for select towns in the UK for deliveries of ecbs. And the big A3 sized AA map of Britain.
            Never once got lost.

      • And yet the kid doesn’t have enough common sense to use google maps to make up for or hide his own lack of manhood?

        We’ve reached peak idiocracy! (I hope!)

    • They deal with their own subservience by continuously lying to themselves about the reality they’re dealing with. The complaints about charging, they say, only come from those who don’t drive EVs, who don’t know what they’re talking about. (Well, maybe we do, and that’s why we don’t drive EVs…)

    • Those female device users Ive listened to honestly BELIEVE compliance with Evvvvves snake dance is doing her fair share to help slow “climate change”. Once her survival circuit is hijacked shes engaged estropilot which plugs ears. Focus by elimination not plasticity expansion. Mama bear.
      Hope lies in the speed of her instantaneous ability to switch memes on a dime. As if theres little else involved. I havent had chance to hear a mans honest subjective take on his device fetish.

    • In fairness to the EV crowd, the same kill switch is now present even in most new ICE vehicles.

      Because they too are ‘always connected, to their own hive mind controlling them from afar.

      Which is why, if you don’t pay a monthly ‘fee’ to have your seats heated in winter, they will stay cold despite having all the equipment necessary for said heating.

  15. If Tesla really did want to address the queueing problem, they would have fixed the abysmal charging performance of their so-called “superchargers”, which in reality means “super-slow chargers”. By reducing the time it takes charge from 0-100% battery capacity to a maximum of five minutes, Tesla would have massively increased the number of devices that could be charged from the same number of device totems, and the queues would have decreased accordingly.

    Unfortunately, Tesla are either too complacent or too incompetent to fix the charging time problem.

    • You do realize there is no fix right?

      Physics and chemistry dictates what Tesla or any other device maker can do to reduce charging times.

      • Well, they had better come out and say so outright, then. In the process of doing so, they would be admitting their own incompetence by having chosen to use a technology that has a 100+ year track record of being unfit for purpose.

        There’s a reason why we don’t build bridges with bubble gum. And for the same reason, we shouldn’t build cars with batteries as the main storage of energy.

      • ‘Physics and chemistry dictates what Tesla or any other device maker can do to reduce charging times.’ — Burn It Down

        What did they teach us in e-school? Right-o: watts = volts x amps.

        Battery capacity, in turn, is measured in kilowatt-hours. So if you want to fill her up (so to speak) in 5 minutes instead of an hour, kilowatts must be 12 times higher.

        Returning to the first equation, with fixed voltage (400 or 800 volts), then it’s amperage that has to increase by 12 times … to hundreds of amps, if not thousands.

        This has real-world consequences, which mainly involve heat. Trying to put hundreds of amps into a vehicle battery will melt it. Massively larger cables and internal conductors would be needed. It won’t work.

        Should capital punishment by electrocution make a comeback, I advocate using a repurposed Tesla drivers seat and Model 3 battery, and calling it the EeeVee Chairway to Heaven. AH HA HA HA … yeah, I get a charge outta that!

      • I don’t know, and I don’t care, but I expect Tesla to deliver a five-minute charge nonetheless. It’s after all an extremely modest expectation, that real cars with a fuel tank have been able to meet for decades (so much for the laws of physics being a problem). If for some reason Ohm’s law constituted a hurdle, then obviously Tesla wouldn’t have used battery technology in the first place – unless, of course, Tesla are so incompetent that they use technology that is fundamentally unfit for purpose, in which case they should come out and say so.

        • “Tesla are so incompetent that they use technology that is fundamentally unfit for purpose, in which case they should come out and say so.”

          Uhm . . . Yeah. . . Don’t hold your breath waiting for that acknowledgement.

          Worse yet, the other OEM’s bought right into this nonsense.

          It speaks to how F’d up we are as a culture and how scientifically illiterate Millions upon Millions of people are about how “green” technology “works”.

          But hey, let’s keep dumping money into the government schools and Department of “Education”.

        • “I don’t know, and I don’t care”

          For what it’s worth I’ve encountered “engineers” that can’t seem to grasp what a sham this whole EV & green energy movement is.

          Not sure how they got through an engineering program lacking such basic knowledge on physics and chemistry but I’ve run into more than one.

          Me thinks it’s a mind virus that enables magical thinking despite an “education” that ought to prevail.

          I honestly cannot explain it beyond cognitive dissonance and/or mass psychosis.

  16. Isn’t it interesting how just a few years ago, people on the political left LOVED Elon Musk & people on the political right HATED him for his EV push & pushing of carbon taxes? However, after he purchased Twitter with the promise of ending its censorship regime & making it more of a free speech platform, the political left ended up HATING him and the political right now LOVED Musk. After Musk’s endorsement of Trump last year, they REALLY HATE him, and many people on the political right REALLY LOVE Musk.

    However, as someone who read a bit about Musk’s history on a website called technocracy.news, I personally neither love nor hate Musk. Instead, I find him to be a billionaire technocrat who should be watched to see what he does instead of what he says, particularly now that he’s with DOGE, which, incidentally, is a repurposed U.S. Digital Service that was created by Barack Obama when he was President after the disastrous launch of the Obamacare website. While DOGE has exposed utter corruption and waste of taxpayer dollars by politicians, bureaucrats, and NGOs, will Musk’s answer be to implement technocracy and AI everywhere? That remains to be seen.

      • Hi Stufo,

        Why am I not surprised that Musk is still pushing EVs & carbon taxes? Being that Elon Musk is also pushing some if not all of the other things being pushed by technocracy, I already don’t trust him, which is why people who haven’t lost their minds the past few years should look at what Musk does in the Trump 2.0 administration as opposed to what he says. But, many people out there have become desperate for a savior after all the insanity and/ or evil we’ve been forced to endure since 2020, and if one is looking for a mere human to be their savior, they’re likely to be disappointed, as we’re all flawed in one way or another, including President Trump.

        • [if one is looking for a mere human to be their savior, they’re likely to be disappointed, as we’re all flawed in one way or another, including President Trump.] John B.

          Blasphemy!

    • Yeah, like a lot of things associated with Trump, Musk is an enigma. On the one hand the left-wing techies and social planners all saw his government subsidized electric climate-change-weeniemobile as a badge of honor and wanted to force all of us to drive one. His entire electric car shtick is a grift off of the government.

      On the other hand his DOGE is in the process of trying to cut the very government his electric car business is grifting from. His boss Trump has specifically said he wants to roll back EV mandates and allow people to drive “the car of their choice.”

      On the one hand the techie social controllers saw Twitter as a way to censor and regulate debate, on the other hand Musk did buy it and made speech freer than it was and probably lost money doing so.

      I suspect there are several things animating Musk’s relationship with Trump. First, when they raided Trump’s house, arrested Trump, convicted Trump on 34 felonies, took $80 million from Trump in civil court over bogus rape claims, and tried to shut down Trump’s business and seize his office tower. Elon realized that no matter how much money or status you have these nuts will try to throw you into prison.

      Second, it appears that one of Musk’s many kids has been corrupted by this transgender nonsense.

      And perhaps third, as a white refugee from black-run South Africa, Musk can understand how the likes of Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and Fani Willis are going to use positions of power to enact anti-white racial vendettas just like the ANC did when it took control in Johannesburg.

      So my guess is that Musk is not acting ideologically, but rather a lot of this is very personal for him.

  17. Worrying about what Musk might do to their other devices. Gee do we really think they compute cause and effect to that degree? The fact that we have Gavin Newsomes and Kathy Hochuls suggests otherwise.

    I did see a Toyota Hilux yesterday! In fact I think I saw two one white and a black one, coming out of the same neighborhood. The first one was at the cardboad recycling bin area. A dad and his boys were emptying out the bed. That thing is dang cute. Really small looks like the size of a big jeep.

  18. Charge rage…didn’t know that was a thing. Figures that it happens.

    I can’t think of the last time I had to wait for an open gas pump.

    • Even with 100+ gas pumps common at the big stores, a Buc-ee’s on a hoiday weekend in Texas can be a challenging place to find an open pump since the chain ended their policy of using (my term) “pump wranglers” to keep people from filling up and leaving the vehicles to spend 15-20 minutes in the store buying overpriced brisket sandwiches.

      If I had to guess, eliminating the staff keeping things moving at the pump cut costs while increasing sales, but the timing seemed suspicious with EV slots appearing at the chain at around the same time.

  19. “Virtual” queuing. There wil still be fights, possibly worse. It is the nature of the Show Ya personality type who seems most attracted to these vehicles.

    Inevitably, I believe that this will lead to “surge” pricing where the app can stage an auction for time slots, with the plug going to the highest bidder.

    Even if an official auction doesn’t happen, unofficial arbitrage of charging timeslots will happen on site.

  20. Eric: One derives a nice sense of warmth inside imagining them worrying about what Musk might do to their devices – and their ability to charge them up – now that he’s no longer on their side.

    Yes; at the moment Musk is a fellow traveler on our side but he will have to be watched carefully to insure that he stays true to our beliefs. But I suspect that he’s only on his own side. That’s not necessarily a bad thing but has to be remembered.

    The digital queuing is an interesting idea and just wait until the inevitable improvement arrives of a charging system that takes control of vehicles that go for charging. If you decide to not charge it will drive itself to an exit and hand control over to you otherwise you will wait till it drives itself to it’s designated charger and sounds an alarm inside the car if you have not gotten out to connect the charging cable.

    As stupid as this may sound I feel this is the next logical step. I’d patent this but as I don’t know if this is even patentable so I’m not.

    PS- all my cars are as dumb as a sack of wet hammers and couldn’t rat me out if they tried and I’m happier because of it.

    • Musk is definitely on his own side.

      Short term, he needs to get the FAA off of his back so that short notice launches of the “Starship” from the SpaceX facility in South Texas can go back to being effective distractions from bad news at TSLA.

      Longer term, SpaceX plans to incorporate Starbase, Texas as a city to keep the great unwashed from venturing out on the main road to get a look at the launch pad from the state park at the mouth of the Rio Grande. Musk will need the support of the “Republicans” currently in charge of Texas to accomplish this goal.

  21. ‘The Hive Mind decides you’ve had enough charge today – and that’s all the charge you’ll get today. Or maybe no charge at all.’ — eric

    Even Toyota is experimenting with a robotic/AI utopia, although they’re careful about avoiding tainted Woke nomenclature:

    ‘Woven City near Mount Fuji is where Japanese automaker Toyota plans to test everyday living with robotics, artificial intelligence and autonomous zero-emissions transportation.

    ‘Daisuke Toyoda, an executive in charge of the project from the automaker’s founding family, stressed it’s not “a smart city.”

    “We’re making a test course for mobility so that’s a little bit different.”

    https://apnews.com/article/toyota-city-japan-ai-robotics-eeedfead1830a40688859627829f82e3

    Ahhh, yes — a test course for mobility: completely different. I feel very relieved. Pretty sure I can walk and chew gum at the same time, passing that test with ease.

    But the Woke scribblers at APe News just can’t resist injecting their leftist poison:

    ‘There was little talk of using electric vehicles, an area where Toyota has lagged [sic].’

    EeeVee ‘laggards’ are the ones best poised to survive the coming shakeout, just as non-pretending news sources are likely to displace NGO-funded leftist propaganda mills.

    Death to the Lügenpresse.

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