There’s a lag built into things; especially big things. Like building out big boondoggle things. It takes time to get everything organized before anything gets started. Plans are made based on projections that make certain assumptions. But when those assumptions prove to be false, it is often too late to prevent the boondoggle from happening.
Such is likely to be the case with “upstart” (bracketed in air fingers quotation marks to convey sarcasm) EV manufacturer Scout, which trades on the name of the classic 4×4 (there were 4x4s before there were “SUVs”) made back in the ’60s and ’70s. Scout is actually VW – which bought the name back in 2021, which you’ll recall was the high water mark of EV Fever, congruent with Sickness Psychosis. VW assumed that the “market” created by the government would assure the success of battery powered devices and figured it would be a good move to badge some of these battery powered devices as “Scouts,” on the assumption that people would be attracted by the badge to such a degree that they would not notice it was just another battery powered device.
This latter error is one every manufacturer of battery powered devices has made and it is an especially grievous one as regards brands that traded chiefly on being different because every battery powered device is fundamentally the same. The charm of the original Scout – and also the VW Microbus, to cite a second case-in-point – was that they were different, quirky things. VW – which thinks it cab successfully market a Scout-badged device – also thought it could trade on the name (or at least, the memory) of the old Microbus to sell a device that looked kind of like the original but was nothing like it. That was a lot like every other device being made, except for its shape.
The point they missed was the lack of the underlying difference.
The ID Buzz didn’t have an engine unlike any other vehicle’s engine – like the microbus did. It has the same generic battery pack and electric motors as every other device. It didn’t – for this reason – sound or feel any different than other-shaped devices, which all sound and feel the same. Perhaps if VW had at least managed to emulate the affordability of the old Microbus, it might have sold. But – like all devices – the ID Buzz is haltingly expensive (about $60,000 to start) which is also effronterous given that electric drivetrains could be inexpensive, if they didn’t also have to be capable of delivering “ludicrous” acceleration and extended highway driving range (at highway driving speeds). There are inexpensive EVs – in China. They can also be found on golf courses, here. They are inexpensive because the expectations aren’t unrealistic.
How realistic is it to expect that VW’s attempt to sell the Scout name won’t be the next big flop?
Not very, probably.
The base price of the device that will be marketed as a “Scout” come 2028 is “estimated” to be in the vicinity of $60,000. This “estimate” is an assumption – another one – that assumes such a target will be met two years hence, which is a rather large assumption. Even if it proves to be spot on, there is still the assumption that there are enough people who want a battery-powered device that says “Scout” on its liftgate, which will be pretty much the only thing that distinguishes it from similarly shaped devices already on the “market” manufactured by Rivian – and who are in a position to afford to spend $60k on one.
That’s a lot to bet the farm on. Or – in this case – $2 billion, the sum VW has reportedly committed to this “investment” in “the future.” The state North Carolina – more finely, the government of the state of North Carolina – has bought in as well. More accurately, has used the dollars it has extorted from North Carolina taxpayers to buy in – to the tune $51.2 million in “incentives” (as they are styled) that will (allegedly) conjure 1,200 jobs.
That’s a lot of assumptions.
Similar assumptions made by GM and Ford have not turned out to have been remunerative. Nor have the jobs they conjured remained. GM recently eliminated several thousand and Ford is likely to do the same because it does not pay to keep people working on make-work projects such as the manufacturing of the F-150 Lightning.
The governor of North Carolina – Josh Stein – rolled up to an “economic development announcement last week in a ’77 Scout II, a publicity stunt on par with Fred Thompson (the actor who became a senator, which isn’t really much of a role change) getting into an old truck just outside of a campaign stop to present himself to the rubes as a good ol’ boy who actually drove an old truck.
But at least Fred’s old truck was real – even if he was a fake.
The device that VW hopes to market to the rubes as a “Scout” is as fake (and gay) as thirty-three dollar bill.
It’s one hell of an assumption to believe anyone’s going to accept them.
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People who have dealt with the old Scouts and with International Harvester’s old light trucks in general will tell you that they were junk. Plenty of stories talk about then-new Scouts quickly rusting, being poorly assembled, and having major problems such as leaking fuel tanks (a common one with the ’60s models). You see few around. There are reasons.
But given VW’s reputation, which is like all the other Euro vehicles, resurrecting the Scout name isn’t surprising.
This is true. I knew someone who bought a brand new Scout in the mid 70’s. The thing was junk when it was brand new, and quickly went downhill from there.By the time it was 3 years old, it seemed more like it was 20 years and not well cared for, even though it was well cared for and only ever saw light use. The guy would’ve better off with an old VW Bug.
Now had they put an engine and kept the price under 25k, they wouldn’t be able to build enough. At 60k, they will rust on dealer lots.
RE” “they will rust on dealer lots.”
Has that ever happened before?
For sure, I imagine they wiggle their way out.
But, who knows?
I’m in NC and the grass roots support was entirely behind Mark Robertson, not that slimy Stein. The hit the media did on Robertson was enough to turn everyone I know against him. I wish I knew a better class of people..
Ah ha ha ha, “I wish I knew a better class of people..”
Yep.
On my list of, ‘to read’:
‘Rise of Phyles and Like-Minded Communities… and Why You Need to Find One Right Now’
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/11/doug-casey/rise-of-phyles-and-like-minded-communities-and-why-you-need-to-find-one-right-now/
[Lila sure didn’t like him. So, I wonder]
Just change the plant over to build the Hilux Champ, instant winner.
Is it too late for Cocksfagen to change course and go Diesel instead? I feel the Humjob and the Scout would be terrific turbo diesels if they decide to correct course at this point, but I got a better chance of winning the lottery than that ever happening
Oh, Scout has changed course, alright! Eighty percent of their reservations are for ‘range extended’ models with IC (but not diesel) engines which aren’t connected to the wheels. And they still have to lug around a half-ton or more of baaaaatteries.
Volkswagen is flat-out delusional. Germany is going to subsidize auto makers’ electric power costs, because it’s killing them. Yet they think unsubsidized customers are going to keep buying EeeVees which will drive their home electric bill sky high??
VW is brain damaged. VW’s best hope is that Merz starts WW III with Russia. Then VW can just forget about cars, and switch over to armaments production. Win-win, innit, unless the Russkies open up a can of Oreshnik hypersonic whup-ass on Stuttgart. 🙁
It worked for “Bronco” cuz gas kicks ass. Didnt work for Mustang.
Why?
(Trying again because Cloudflare is acting up this morning)
The International (Harvester) Scout had a lot in common with the Microbus. Both sold in numbers that would be accounting errors to GM or Ford. Both had their strong niche in repairability. The Scout had a simple, fairly indestructible engine and basic interior. It was made for running on farm roads. Every VW owner had a copy of How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive; A Manual of Step-By-Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot because it made maintenance easy, which was the point of the Volkswagen.
EVs have nothing to fix. I’m sure there are people capable of swapping out battery packs, but not on the side of the road in the middle of the night. This is why these nostalgia plays aren’t working at all. Besides, memories work both ways. Some good, some horrible. Like being broken down on the side of a dirt road, with your girlfriend pointing the dim flashlight in the wrong direction while you bang your head on the hood.
The governor of North Carolina is a tiny hat wearin’ carpetbagger. He may as well be from Mars.
There’s more queers, liberals, and Jews in North Carolina than there is in my snowy corner of Yankeeland. It ain’t Jesse Helms’s North Carolina any more…
‘The base price of the device that will be marketed as a Scout come 2028 is estimated to be in the vicinity of $60,000.’ — eric
Oy vey! Seriously, I would have guessed $35,000 to $40,000. Apparently, Scout really is planning to go head to head with Rivian, which pitches itself as a more exclusive luxury brand of massively obese EeeVee pickups.
Scout pumped $2 billion into its Blythewood SC manufacturing plant, leveraged by another $1 billion stolen by South Carolina’s socialist RINO governor Henry McMaster. Now it’s time for North Carolinians to get swindled too, though for ‘only’ $70 million. State industry, comrades — it’s how Stalin became great!
This morning I’m eating crow for breakfast. I really thought that Volkswagen, with its back against the wall at home in Germany, would pull the plug on its goofball Scout venture during this quarter. But no-o-o-o-o — the fool krauts are doubling down, adding office space in Charlotte to their white elephant manufacturing plant in South Carolina.
Dummköpfe! I tried to warn ye … but you lot wouldn’t listen! Now you’re gonna pay, until you can’t pay no more. I can recommend a good Chapter 7 bankruptcy attorney. Might as well draft that filing early, so you’ll have it on the shelf when the lights go out.
‘CEO Scott Keogh says excitement already exists for the brand. Scout has received more than 130,000 pre-orders for the vehicles, which the company says it will price at $60,000 or less. Plug-in hybrid versions of Scout’s models are also planned.
“It is not just to bring back a relic, but bring back a revolution, bring back getting America to manufacturing things, dreaming things and doing things again,” Keogh said at Wednesday’s announcement.’
https://businessnc.com/scout-motors-picks-charlotte-for-automotive-headquarters/
Pardon me for laughing my ass off at an auto exec preaching ‘excitement’ and ‘revolution.’ Those 130,000 pre-orders only required a $100 deposit. Ninety percent of them will evaporate when punters actually have to pony up their $60K (probably $75K by 2028).
I’ll tip my hat to the kraut constitution
Take a bow for the Scout revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
— The Who, Won’t Get Fooled Again (1971)
You know when all these EV companies go under we’ll still be on the hook for their losses.
If their ideas were so good they should be able to find investors to build their plants and not the taxpayer.
Leeches and parasites.
What is the definition of insanity? Oh yeah, doing the same thing repeatedly, and getting the same results.
and expecting different results.
Oh, I remember Fred Thompson in that old pickup. He should’ve stayed in Hollywood. Much worse was Lamar Alexander in that plaid shirt saying, “cut their pay and send them home!” He quickly forgot that before he was sworn in.
Stein is governor of NC not SC. NC is very “state capitalist” oriented. Toyota just announced some multi hundred billion battery plant there as well. God knows why based on the seeming “cliff” for EV sales now that the subsidies are expired. It’s all very Chyneeze.
Fixed, Funk – thanks! These transpositions are my White Whale!
Hey, no worries but just re-read and you should go through that paragraph starting with “bet the farm.” You need an “of” before the first mention of North Carolina and an “it” before “has used dollars.”