You have probably heard about goyslop – the term for “food” that is more like poison. More finely, it is deliberately poisoned food – fed to the goyim; i.e., the people viewed as cattle by those who feed them the poisoned food. It is laced with such poisons as rapeseed (aka “canola”) oil, a known biological toxin that was originally an industrial lubricant. Another is high fructose corn syrup. Both (and more) are used to make “food” cheaper and never mind what it does to the bodies of those who consume this “food.”
Well, ethanol added to your gas – added in lieu of gas – is like that. It is less a poison than an adulterant. It contains less energy, so you go less far on a gallon of what’s no longer gasoline anymore. It is “E10” – which is a mixture of 90 percent gasoline and 10 percent ethanol alcohol and that is what almost all the commercially available “gas” being sold actually is.
It is goyslop – for your engine.
The sellers of this goyslop – the politicians and their Big Farm donors – want you to think it’s a wonderful thing (like Wonder Bread) because hey, look, it’s cheaper! Actually, it is more profitable – an important difference. The Big Farm ethanol producers get millions in subsidies to divert feed stock – corn, mostly – into the production of ethanol as an adulterant for fuel (it is of course not described that way since honesty is never the best policy when it comes to anything the government and its corporate lampreys – it goes just as well either way – impose on us) and you get a reduction in miles-per-gallon, which means you have to fill up more often.
The goyim, of course, are not expected to notice this. They also get to pay the taxes that finance the subsidies and also – more subtly – in the form of higher food prices. Food – especially meat – costs more, too – because feed costs more because so much is diverted to the production of ethanol.
But – hey! – ethanol is “renewable.”
Never mind that it is also corrosive – or that the ethanol adulterant attracts moisture – and has a shorter shelf/storage life. Well, “E10” does.
So how about some more? How about E15?
Trump’s EPA chief Lee Zeldin – who is the paladin with authority over this, apparently – has just “approved nationwide E15,” which is “gas” with 15 percent ethanol alcohol. A “waiver” has been issued that will allow E15 “temporary nationwide distribution” of the goyslop this summer. Such “waivers” have been issued before but this one has the smack of permanence.
“President Trump has prioritized ensuring American families have an affordable domestic energy supply. The Trump administration has made great strides on this during the first year and will continue to do so,” says Zeldin.
The chocolate ration has been increased, too.
The superficial sell is that this will – somehow – offset the War Tax everyone has been paying at the pump since Trump decided (or was told, by his Israeli donors and handlers) to start this stupid, evil war with Iran that has already increased the cost of a gallon of regular unleaded E10 by a buck.
Zeldin says he wants to “fortify the domestic fuel supply.” He means replace another 5 percent of the fuel supply – for the benefit of Big Farm, which will be able to extract more millions by pumping more corn juice into the fuel supply.
There are some rubs, though – beyond the ones already enumerated.
The first and most significant one being that while all new vehicles – and most vehicles made since the late 1980s – are able to safely operate on E10 “gas,” many much more recent-vintage vehicles are not built to safely operate on E15. It was necessary to use new materials for such things as gas tanks, fuel lines and rubber hoses, seals and o rings to be compatible with E10. But that does not means they are compatible with E15. Indeed, many are explicitly not. Use of “gas” with more than 10 percent ethanol alcohol in such vehicles can cause expensive problems – including possibly fires – and none of it will be covered by your vehicle’s warranty if the paperwork warned you explicitly to not use E15.
For older vehicles manufactured prior to the 1980s – when gas was still gas – the use of E15 presents a particular problem because they will run lean since their mechanical fuel delivery systems – carburetors – cannot adjust the air-fuel ratio to compensate for the high alcohol/lower BTU content of the adulterated “gas.” Lean-running engines run hot, which isn’t good – unless you want to accelerate their demise and this may be just what’s wanted, since these older cars are the last cohort of disconnected vehicles that cannot be eternally controlled via “updates” and such and which are also easily owner serviceable.
Never mind. It’s all doubleplusgood!
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This vid seemed related and quite inspiring, I thought of Eric wrenching on his T.A. as I watched it.
Via SurvivalBlog:
‘How Smart Mechanics Are Bypassing The Dealership (The “Delete” Loophole) ‘
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjVpkpQFJeA&t=60s
A number of times while watching it, I thought to myself in a Johnny Carson voice, “I Did NOT know that”.
A.S.S.
Air Bags.
Limp Mode.
Cylinder Deactivation.
Electronic power steering assist.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
May the fuckers who created, implemented, and pushed into production those things, rot in Hell.
Thank you for sharing the video, Helot. How convenient that there are no parts for older vehicles. No need to pass laws making it illegal to fix your old vehicle with a policy like this. However, just as with Prohibition, there is always going to be someone (or many someone’s) who are going to be able to get around/ find a way around said laws and policies. Those mechanics who know how to bypass this crap are going to be invaluable in the not-too-distant future.
Please note in that E15 gas pump sticker that you posted, it is a “prohibited by federal law” to use E15 in vehicles older than 2001. Everyone driving such a car is breaking federal law. I wonder what the consequences are for such lawbreaking.
I never voted for such a law. I doubt it’s a law at all but rather a diktat created by unelected bureaucrats.
The more ridiculous laws they make, the more people care less about breaking any law.
This is because having too much alcohol in your gasoline reduces your emission numbers. It’s a long time band-aid if you live in a place that requires emissions testing to run the tank close to empty, dilute your gas with several bottles of HEET and retard your ignition as much as it’ll tolerate without pinging itself to death to pass the sniffer test. You want to put a full tank of pure gas back in the moment you drive away from the testing station, though.
It’s purely a shame that Americans, any men in general, have to put up with, “emissions testing” and, “the sniffer test”. Having to do a, “work around” is just as shameful.
What’s that word P.C.R. uses? Insouciant.
https://paulcraigroberts.org/are-americans-insouciant/
But what do you want to bet PCR drives a newer car and jumps through the hoops? I don’t know him, maybe he’s a motorhead, but a lot of academics wouldn’t know which end of a socket wrench to use. And I think he lives in California, doesn’t he?
Hi Anon,
PCR is an elderly man now. He’s pushing 90. I have no idea what he drives – or even if he drives, at all. If he doesn’t drive anymore, does that impugn what he has to say about politics?
All of my vehicles get ethanol free. 1. It’s immoral/unnatural to burn food in order to fuel machines. 2. Ethanol draws moisture from the air and has a shelf life measured in weeks. 3. I saw from the beginning that it was a slow, Fabian style of cash for clunkers. I haven’t bought any in many years. My explorer’s manual says it can handle E10 but I don’t trust it.
My gas price (the real one) stays .80-1.00 above regular corn. I have friends who bargain hunt for the cheapest gas, to put in their multi tens of thousands of dollar land yachts. I’m guessing that’s pretty common.
Fk Iowa, Fk corn lobby, Fk fake gas, Fk fake farmers, Fk their F² larvae to D. As to our traitor imposter POS. Go die in Jeru you moron.
Iowa needs to go back to what it understands best.
Pig farming.
Forgot to Fk the Fairfield freakshow cult and its disgusting MIC outpost as well.
Fk off n die idiots.
It used to be, that tree cutting was the big deal here in Iowa, not pig farming. Kids would drop out of co-ed goobermint prison/schools in order to cut trees down to make way for the fields there are now.
We have Real Gas here. The vax/mask mandate was highly resisted. We also have the lowest credit card debt in the nation.
But, yeah, I wish Big Ag would G.T.F.O. …have you ever seen them use planes and helicopters to spray poison near homes & towns? It’s disgusting and way more worse than a ruined engine from using crap gas.
It only works in engines that run often. My experience with E10, is it ruins carburetors past around 3-6months depending on your climate. It’s worse in higher humidity regions, like the East vs the West (US). In injected engines, E10 goes a little longer because the system past the fuel pump is not open to atmosphere. E15 will ruin way more carb’d engines (the carb itself) that aren’t used a lot.
The AMA (American motorcyle association) has ben lobbying against E15 for a long time.
I would agree that ethanol is for drinking, not engines, though I’ve given some thought to converting a generator to run off of ethanol in case the gasoline supply is cut off.
Meanwhile we have kept vigilant and kept E15 out of our vehicles as it has been appearing at more and more gas stations.
Decarbonization for your [Former] Engine
A Lügenpresse stenographer’s DMT-fueled, fact-free fantasy:
‘The war in Iran marks the third major energy shock in just a handful of years, years in which fossil loyalists [sic] argued that the green transition risked intolerable turmoil and political leaders cooled off on climate urgency in the name of “energy security.”
‘But this war is also a new kind of conflict, given shape by fossil-fuel turmoil [sic] and the uncertainty brought about by the energy transition of the last decade.
‘By many metrics and from many vantages, green energy has been a dizzying, ecstatic [sic] success. Renewables have grown faster than any new source of energy in history, surpassing nearly all expectations.
‘Take, just for instance, gas stations: How many of them should there be, once electric vehicles take over the roads [sic, LOL!] while charging exclusively in garages and driveways.
‘What happens to the global shipping industry as the world moves away from fossil fuels, given that they account for some 40 percent of all shipping by volume? Literally: What are we supposed to do with all those tankers?
‘No one has ever started a war over solar panels, as any climate activist will tell you. Not that a renewable future will be a peace-loving utopia.’
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/magazine/iran-war-energy-climate-change.html
Literally, y’all: what are we do to will all these deranged, off-planet stenographers, spewing Looney Tunes brainrot at us?
A renewable future will be a really quiet future, with roving bands of a few hundred thousand remaining humans, scouring the forest for nuts, berries and small animals.
Death to the freaking Lügenpresse!
Erratum: 3rd para from last: will –> with
Seriously, what are they smoking? 😆
They just blew up a 500,000,000 (1/2 Billion) dollar aircraft,,, a barrel of oil cost has doubled. Zerohedge is pushing Chinese EVs,telling us how great they are. Costs are going up everywhere for everything as the goy tries to reduce this and that, trying to survive these insane assholes.
The whole thing to impoverish us while we rah rah America. The whole thing a clown show. Even if Donny were dragged out of the Goy house – who is there to install? Ron boy? He robbed us blind. His son? Hell, He can’t find the time to comb his hair. It’s hopeless. A waste of time.
ken … it’s called ‘bed head’ … makes the floozies wanna run their fingers through your adorable tangled locks. :-0
Fomoco states in my owners manual: No more than E 10 in my 08 Ranger. Subaru is the same for my middle 2000s EJ 253s. I think it would take a bunch of low grade ass hats to use feed stock to make shitty fuel…Another good ol USA Fuckin.
I have a 2012 Rogue for which the owner’s manual warns against going beyond 10% ethanol. I suspect the same also applies for my 2006 Tundra, but I haven’t gone looking yet.
This past weekend, my wife and I drove down from Las Vegas to Prescott for a family get-together. The One9 station in Ash Fork, AZ is already selling E15; it was called out as such on the sign along I-40. I don’t recall it being significantly cheaper than the other gas stations in the area that are selling E10. The Prescott Costco was selling E10 for just under $4 per gallon, so that’s where we got gas before returning.
Ash fork is just wierd anyway.
Here in WA our local Co-op sells E0. Thanks to the climate carbon tax scam and Jew Wars the zero alcohol 92 octane is about $6.19 now. Zero 87 about $5.75. Mr. Harley loves the zero 92 “It’ll cost you Sparkey!” but worth it.
When I was young, and driving a ’79 Corolla, I had to adjust the carburetor settings as the seasons changed, otherwise the car would run too rich and stink up the air, or too lean and backfire. Even though I prefer EFI, you can actually tune a pre-EFI car to run on this blend. Interesting times.
This ethanol stuff is so dumb. It only exists to buy votes in corn country, and to me, it seems like such a profound waste of land and food to ferment that much corn into ethanol. That land could be used to grow food or raise animals.
Hmm, re: ” It only exists to buy votes in corn country,”
There’s not that many voters here in flyover land compared to elsewhere else.
…Do you suppose there’s other reasons?
Like say, Power & Control? Idk.
Why would The Power Elite give a crap about farmers in flyover?
Insignificant.
OTOH, a sheet ton of pesticides and herbicides sure do get sold.
…Profit stream?> Doubled as a healthcare/big pharma spring of profits?
Idk. Looks that way.
‘Are Americans Insouciant?’
https://paulcraigroberts.org/are-americans-insouciant/
Ethanol production is a subsidy scam:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Ethanol+production+is+a+subsidy+scam.&t=brave&ia=web
For a minute, I was ticked off. Dont mess up my truck!
Then I did some quick research and found that my state has 0% Ethanol. That is a cool bonus I did not know about until now. And now that I think about it, the gas pumps do not have the ethanol advisories plastered upon them.
I probably pay more per gallon than most outside of Cali and such, but to know I do not have ethanol in my tank is pretty reassuring.
Hi J,
It looks like your state doesn’t belieeeeeeeeeeve in the “science” of cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimate change lol. Either that or it doesn’t have a powerful corn lobby that successfully lobbied to have ethanol be put in gasoline in the first place.
As for the cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimate change thing, it seems to me that it has become little more than a secular religion right up there with COVID, face diapers, and vaccines, as people who subscribe to any or all of those secular religions almost invariably think of “Non-believers” as baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
Hi John. Yes, I was never so glad when the state (AK) got rid of the emissions testing that we had to do (every 2 years) when renewing our car’s plates. The liberals bemoaned that people would be losing their jobs. From what I remember (??) doing the emissions testing did not do much in the way of helping the environment. But, I always heard from a friend about the inspection stickers Eric and other Virginia residents have to have on their vehicles (yuk). In the Fairbanks/ North Star borough, if your car is old enough, you can obtain black, “Z” stickers, and not ever have to renew your plates again-always nice. However, other areas of the state do not recognize them.
Morning, Shadow!
I dont have to subject my TA to “emissions” testing because it’s got Antique plates; my truck is exempt from “safety” inspections because it has Farm tags. There is still a wee bit of freedom in Virginia. For the moment.
That is what the “Z” plate sticker amounts too I surmise. The label certainly didn’t hurt my feelings any…haha. Now…I am pricing the cost of a new engine and turbo for my ’07. With the safety crap and now subscription fees to access features, that old girl is looking better and better.
Hi Shadow,
In Oregon, if you drive an automobile, you only have to take it to a local DEQ station every 2 years if it’s 20 years old or newer and pay a fee for passing in addition paying a registration fee to renew registration. If your vehicle is more than 20 years old, you only have to renew registration every 2 years, a fee which has gotten crazy high the past several years and the current governor wants to make even HIGHER under guise of “Funding the state’s department of transportation”. Given that the state is also ALL IN with Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimate change lunacy, I’m surprised there hasn’t been moves to expand DEQ testing to vehicles MORE than 20 years old.
I would like to get the ’07 fixed and running again, before it is illegal to do so. Or, when it gets to the point that I cannot find the parts for it. That is one sure way the system would have to force all of us into these computer-on-wheels, or out of driving altogether. LOL, I read an article from MSN, of how vehicles are basically Big Brother. I chuckled at the comments, of those who were starting to wake up. It also seems that the subscription-on-wheels is not sitting too well with many, either, forcing them to wake up to what some of us were yelling and trying to warn about long ago. Welcome to my world, do you hate it enough yet?
What state. Might be worth moving! Or at least filling up on the way through.
Hi Ugg, you will not be “passing through” this state. You need a passport to drive to this state.
It takes a lot to move here and make sure you have a job first but if you do, and you like winter, this is a great place to be.
So great yr terrified to mention where the F ? Hmmmm
Hi Rain, this was not a hard puzzle to figure out. Shadow gaves clues as well.
50 States in the Union. 1 state you cannot drive to at all and 1 state that driving to it will require a passport and you will not be just “passing through”. Guess which one it is? Even a nod towards “better like winter” as another clue.
https://youtu.be/BLONWy46gIE?si=XOw21x-rUEleWaA8
Ugg, this is called “The Last Best Place To Run”. You had better have a good job, prepare to pay more in taxes (pending in the legislature), like guns (in some areas), and not mind long, dark Winters, and mosquitoes in the Summer (ha ha). I swear the mosquito should have been our state bird (ha ha).
Ah, Alaska. That was my guess. I have relatives in Delta Junction. Military of course until they are redeployed to the gulf for our little war on behalf of Israhel.
That is good to know, J, as I was not sure. I have not seen any of the fuel pumps in this neck of the wood containing any advisories, either. Not yet anyway. Then again, we always were a step or two behind the rest of the nation. That is not always a bad thing.
Hi Shadow, from what I found, we do have a 6% price incentive to use ethanol but it just does not make any sense to ship up ethanol to blend.
True. Then again, nothing the Feds implements make sense. I suppose that is how we end up with demons like Murkowski and others. I had also read (not sure of the validity) of possible restrictions on diesel fuel in this neck of the woods?
I had never heard of farmers growing rapeseed until “Clarkson’s Farm”.
Isn’t canola oil often presented as a healthier alternative to Mazola or other oils with “corn goodness”?
Old school “margarine” was actually hard to find when I needed it for a recipe this Christmas. Instead, that section of the refrigerated case at my store had a lot of “spreads”.
Apparently “spreads” are further bastardized versions of margarine, with dairy by products mixed in.
Hi Roscoe,
Wait til a company called SAVOR starts rolling out lab made butter, which they’re framing as a “Climate Friendly alternative to butter”. Bill Gates likely has his fingerprints all over it lol.
I doubt lab made “butter” will actually be HEALTHY for humans, let alone be “Climate Friendly”.
FYI, margarine is 80% oil and can be used as a substitute for butter. “Spread” is less than 80% oil and cannot be used for recipes calling for butter or margarine.
HeartSmart is less than 50% oil and will not brown if put under a broiler. I worked in the veg oil biz for a time. I apologize to all whom I unknowingly conned into ditching butter.
Forgive me.
mmMMmm good…
Hi Mark,
Is that last sentence supposed to be a swipe at Campbell’s Soup? I don’t know if you already knew this, but there was a secret video not too long ago of a Campbell’s executive blasting his company’s soups for various reasons, among them claiming that the company uses 3D printed chicken for soups that contain chicken. If that’s the case, what are the odds that Campbell’s is also using other 3D printed stuff for their soups and calling them “food”?
Cambulls sez its fulla GMO right on the labels.
Oh yes, the old “Contains bioengineered food ingredients” disclaimer on the label.
And yet, people have been propagandized into believing that the problem is NOT “Big Food” or “Big Pharma”, but current HHS Secretary RFK Jr.
We make Chicago deep dish pizza at home, and getting the crust to have the “right” taste and flaky texture is impossible with real butter or “spreads”.
Margarine is the key.
Sane fir bio diesel, absolutely worthless rubber eating fuel oil
Same for* (dead pixels on my phone, can’t read what I write)
Biodiesel is actually good stuff. The process of making it involves stirring in methanol with the vegetable oils and allowing it to separate into glycerin and fuel.
True, its not the same as diesel but its far safer for old cars than ethanol in a gas machine. You might have to replace a few rubber lines as you noted.
The biggest drawback is biodiesel doesn’t keep/store like natural diesel, biologicals grow in it very quickly, and plug filters. So long as you’re daily driving fresh bio, it works well.
No worthwhile fuel is meant to be long term stored.
Plutonium, WTF are we waiting for?
God please before its too late
“You have probably heard about goyslop – the term for “food” that is more like poison.”
No I haven’t. That is more telling about you than it is about me.
Why, Clover!
I see you’re back under a new IP address and another fake email – but we all know who you are, regardless. You can hide – but you’ll still be seen.
Poor ol’ Clover!
Here’s one, just for you: https://x.com/RAWigger/status/2037915372779618323
LOL!
As poor ‘Jared Kushner’ groans every time he’s invited to share a power meal with Orange BLOTUS,
‘Goyslop! It’s what’s for dinnahhhh!‘ 🙁
Morning Eric:
I will point out that penned chickens do like fresh clover when I weed my garden. So some clover does serve a purpose.
“ Here’s one, just for you:”
Ironic that the guy you cast a ballot for is Top Goy and is the source of your E15 rage.
At the risk of repeating myself, it says more about you.
Poor ol’ Clover! He – she? – keeps on changing his/her name and using a different IP address but it’s always the same ol’ Clover! He/she hides but we always see!
Anyhow, it’s like this:
I did not vote for the war or pretty much anything else Trump has been doing since about the first three months of his term. I voted to put Americans – not Israel – first. I voted for accountability – for the “COVID” criminals and the Epstein ones, also.
I made a mistake. I got fooled. I let myself believe Trump was the lesser evil. It was a mistake I will never make again.
PS: Learn to turn a wrench yet?
Xlnt move Eric!
‘That is more telling about you than it is about me.’ — Clovahhhhh
Apparently this is intended as a backhanded compliment.
I’m envious that I didn’t coin the potent epithet ‘goyslop’ myself, since it applies to such a vast spectrum of contemporary life.
I salute its author, and append an earnest request: More, please, kind sir! 🙂
Go away.
‘Such waivers have been issued before, but this one has the smack of permanence.’ — eric
Think like a criminal. With a little determined effort, we can all do it.
Once I had a bad dream that I had seriously wrecked somebody’s life, by setting up dirty tricks that took away their house, their job and their savings. I woke up in a sweat, under the impression that the cops were after me.
This is where the minds of sociopaths such as Trump, Hegseth, Rubio, Graham and Waltz diverge from ours. If they experienced such a dream, they’d awaken laughing their ass off, and gleefully planning their next malicious exploit. 🙁
Off topic , but…
That’s an irreplaceable AWACS worth $600M killed by a cheap missile, along with several KC-135 tankers. We had only 16 of them. We’ve also lost two critical EC-130 Compass Call jamming planes. We’ve spend nearly a trillion dollars on the military-industrial complex and we never thought to build shelters or have air defense systems?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15688639/Dramatic-photos-destroyed-US-Air-Force-planes-Iranian-missile-attack-left-troops-seriously-injured.html
This may be an example of real-life karma.
Why did the US have a military base in Saudi Arabia, to protect the ghastly bonesaw head-chopper ‘prince’ MBS? Fate gave Uncle Sam a punch in the teeth.
Donnie Bonespurs says MBS and his elderly dad are great guys — people like him, in fact, who loot billions from their own people and revel in their own impunity.
What if that impunity is an illusion? All of them face a non-zero risk of execution, whether from a Nuremberg II court or an enraged populace.
Screw the stinking war.
“Irreplaceable” is right! That was a 707 airframe! Talk about ancient.
The thing about the Imperial ZOG Military is that its high reliance upon technology can be a detriment when confronting a more primitive, flexible adversary, the way the simpler English ships defeated the heavy fleet of the Spanish Armada in 1588. Add to that a casualty-averse mercenary corps of careerists and the military practically hobbles itself.
It’s great for funding and supplying and advising a proxy force that does all the actual fighting and dying, as in Ukraine, but against an adversary facing an existential threat, not so much.
You would think we would have learned this in Vietnam and Afghanistan, but noooo…. the Military-Industrial Complex is a deeply entrenched grift full of yes-men who want to get paid.
There are plenty of spare parts for military aircraft at Davis Monthan airbase. the “boneyard” for the military and some commercial aircraft.
Bubble gum and bailing wire will become a part of the equation.
I live a few miles away now. Hopefully a low priority target near where the planes go to die.
Was about to mention that. But the hard part is that radar system, and its impressive that it was specifically targeted. Davis Monthan has the airframes but the critical systems are handmade by capacious contractors.
Rapacious not capacious.
“ That was a 707 airframe! Talk about ancient “
Yep! The last few that were built, Renton WA, were built by one crew that went along with the airplane from one work position to the next, out into final assembly. Normal production is a crew per work station. They had a blast, months of workplace variety instead of the daily line grind. Once it went thru final it was time for the secret squirrel stuff to be installed. Our production engineering (and most everyone else) access was then cut off, only folks with Fed clearance allowed inside.
Since GovCo doesn’t care what we think all we can do is react to their actions. So here are a couple suggestions:
Project Farm showed that while gas stabilizers don’t do much for ethanol fuel, Stabil brand did prevent corrosion in metal so if you have seasonal equipment maybe use it with your fuel.
If you’re worried about lean running conditions; learn to read your spark plugs and rejet as needed.
You can also fit in an aftermarket oxygen sensor and display to your vintage car so you can just look at the gauge to make sure you’re not running too lean.
Unless it changes, marinas sell ethanol free gas for boats but they do charge a premium.
Look online for sites like https://pure-gas.org/ for stations in your area selling ethanol free gas or buy an ethanol test to check as it may vary by station. Note that the pump might say up to 15% so some blends may be less.
Buy ethanol free fuel in cans but that stuff is stupidly expensive.
Hi Landru. Good point on the pure-gas website. Luckily, if you live in the Carolinas or nearby, you have Quality Plus. They only sell 87 E10 and 93 E0.
https://qualityplusnc.com/locations/
Unfortunately the only places to get unadulterated gas around here are hardware stores, no actual gas pumps for hundreds of miles. Just bought a gallon of real gas for $25 for y snowblower for next season; probably cost $40 by then thanks to the TrumpEpstien war
Hi Mike.
Look at setting up a second tank system in which you can switch tanks and start it up and shut it down on ethanol free and use the ethanol gas for regular use.
Regarding that ethanol free fuel they sell in tin cans the big problem is that a small engine shop told me that you can only run one or the other and shouldn’t mix them together.
Based on the cost of cheap carbs on Amazon it might be worth buying a couple carbs just to have one handy when the ethanol kills it.
Thanks for the idea Landu, might be easier than what I do now which is similar: get it going with real gas, then add the ethanol poisoned stuff to finish up. Run it dry at the end of the season and then put some good gas in until next winter.
Find your local general aviation airport, they will sell you 88 Avgas by the gallon, its usually about 2x pump price. Its formulated different and keeps forever but some engines don’t like it.
How to remove ethanol from gasoline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mLbuUSt-0
That works but the gas in E10 or E15 is around 80 octane, I can run it in a 6:1 compression flathead but not so good for a 8:1 or higher engine.
I just did some quick research. The EPA is allowing fuel stations to sell E15 if they want to do so; they’re not mandating its sale or use.
That’s true, Mark –
But as a watcher of such things, I regard this as the slow-walking of making E15 the new “standard.” Wait and see.
If the EPA mandates E15, that’ll cause a lot of problems. Why? Because even cars of relatively recent vintage can’t handle anything stronger than E10, such as the 2015 Ford Focus I used to have. My 2021 Royal Enfield motorcycle can only take E10. And so on. Someone who bought a car in the last few years won’t be able to run out and get a new one. If the EPA mandates E15 and phases out E10, they’ll have a rebellion on their hands.
Water (yes water) can be used to easily separate ethanol from gasoline. There are youtube videos that explain the process.
The problem is that the ethanol is used to bump up the octane and when you remove it the octane drops precipitously unless you add an octane booster. Sadly that octane booster ain’t cheap.
>octane booster ain’t cheap.
I don’t know what is out there these days, but the “old timey” octane booster was tetraethyl lead, which has not been made in the U.S. in decades.
TEL *will* poison your catalyst.
Fifteen percent ethanol looks like another win for everyone but the working man and woman.
The farmers sell more corn that the Chinese don’t want, your paid for old car is ruined forcing you to buy a new one, the higher ethanol content lowers the fuel economy meaning you have to buy more gas which benefits the oil companies along with GovCo’s tax department, etc.
Need I say more?
Nailed it Landru!
Maybe fuel stations are allowed to stick with E-10 but may not be able to. This country does not have enough petroleum refineries to cater to individual stations. The refineries are going to control costs by doing one type over another. In any given region, all gasoline brands are serviced by one refinery who sell to a handful of distributors. The only difference in the gasoline brands are the fuel additives requested by the different commercial brands. So, the refineries will give in to the dictates of fedzilla and keep costs down by doing all fuel E-15.
What if the majority of stations request and order E10? Will the refineries then do E10?
The same thing happened to stations that continued to order leaded gas. They found it was no longer available. I had hopes for Lee Zelden, of course, those are gone. E-15 is no good for engines made before 2006.
Same thing for stations that ordered regular E-0 gas after 2010 or so.
It’s largely unavailable except in certain states like Oklahoma or parts of Texas.
Market forces are not at play.
I can get straight gasoline here in eastern PA. There’s a station near the airport that carries it, and the local Wawas carry it; the Wawas have designated pumps where you can get pure, 89 octane gas, marked in blue.
Swamprat,
FWIW, Ford didn’t approve E15 for its vehicles until 2013.
Wow. That’s interesting. I know on my 2006 Pilot, it says E10 in the manual. I don’t know about the 2007 and later models. They may have made a paper change. What a disgrace.
I’m gonna start buying the E0 at Buccees. Doing my part to keep the demand for real gasoline up.
I would like to hang Lee Zelden up a lighgt pole.
He could have relaxed the fuel volatility mandate instead of permitting this shit to be sold. The last person to relax the fuel volatility mandate for summer fuel was ironically Barack Obama in 2012. Fuel prices were nosebleed high and there was some problem in getting the mandated oxygenate that year.
I miss the days when the government at least did things that made life a bit easier.
Trump needs to hang for what he is doing.
This is Fascism at its finest.
The merger of Corporations and The State is the defining characteristic of this strain of Socialism. Yet, we don’t hear any complaints for the “anti-fascists” about this or any other such merger. Other examples include the Medical Industrial Complex, the Education Industrial Complex and the Federal Reserve.
Are these mergers too arcane for the mid-wits to grasp? Are they just playing the role of ignorant humans that think because the rooster crows the sun will rise? Or, are do they actually think this is a benefit to them and it’s their greed that drives them?
Based on the nooz coverage of the “No Kings” protests I’d have to guess that it’s the ignorance. When I see groups of old white women bemoaning what “their friends” are suffering while those “friends” are nowhere to be seen, it’s ignorance coupled with delusion that’s driving our decline.
The whole “No Kings” protests are nothing but sour grapes for old government employees who live off the status quo. They have another 5 years until their pension kicks in and they don’t want to have to learn a bunch of new stuff.
Since socialism and fascism are the same from where I sit, i.e. they both involve rulers and ruled, I’d suggest that the distinction is one of dogma and those mid/dim wits cannot grasp it.
And the nooz broadcast is saw was a bunch of superannuated boomers reliving the glory days of their 60s protests. Though on very narrow camera angles since the “crowds” of “hundreds” weren’t.