Home armed government workers Hut! Hut! Hut! Leads to All Fired Up . . .

Hut! Hut! Hut! Leads to All Fired Up . . .

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When people are hated, there’s usually a reason why. Here’s an example:

A few weeks ago, a dude named Clarence Coyl and a friend drove through an open gate at the Havasu National Wildlife Refuge in Arizona. They were spotted by a Fish and Wildlife officer identified as P. Nielsen, who ordered them to leave. The pair did so. Read that again. Coyle left, as ordered.

That was, apparently, not enough for P. Nielsen, who followed them for 20 minutes until Coyl pulled into a gas station to pump some gas into his truck. When he returned to his truck after getting some sodas inside the station, P. Nielsen was there. P. Nielsen demanded to see Coyl’s ID. An argument ensued. Coyl demanded to know why he was being ordered to hand over his ID. Apparently, it is a minor offense to drive through an open gate onto the Havasu National Wildlife Refuge and P. Nielsen was determined to impose justice upon the offender, whatever it took.

P. Nielsen – wearing shorts and mirrored sunglasses, which makes him look like he’s auditioning for The Village People – draws his Taser and you can see for yourself he’s itchin’ to use it. He does exactly that, after Coyl calls him an asshole. But first, Coyle asked to know what crime he was being charged with. P. Nielsen did not say, exactly. We all know what it was. It’s not on the books – but it is enforced.

The high voltage Taser “deployment” lights Coyl on fire, resulting in severe burns. Apparently, P. Nielsen was not “trained” that sparks and gasoline don’t mix well. Actually, P. Nielsen was “trained.” According to Fox News, it is against Department of Interior policy to use “electronic control devices” such as Tasers near flammable materials.

Coyl’s calling the Village People wanna-be an “asshole” served to override the training.

Sigh.

Once again we see a situation in which grossly disproportionate force – potentially lethal force – is used against a “civilian” for the crime of Failing to Respect Muh Authoritah. Coyl wasn’t trying to run away from P. Nielsen. He certainly wasn’t threatening the “safety” of P. Nielsen. He was asking what crime or offense it was he’d committed. And he called him an asshole.

That was offensive to P. Nielsen. Maybe his ‘roids induced the rage. Will they test P. Nielsen for that?

It is quite possible than P. Nielsen way overstepped whatever authoritah he actually does have as a Fish and Wildlife officer, which sounds like he’s basically a park ranger. Coyl left the park – and so, presumably, the nimbus of P. Nielsen’s authoritah. Nonetheless, according to news reports, P. Nielsen was going to make sure Coyl respected his authoritah. It was something like Sheriff Buford T. Justice following Burt Reynolds in his Trans-Am across multiple state lines, just without the good humor and withe homicidal intent. Watching the video, it’s clear P. Nielsen’s affronted ego overran his judgment (assuming he ever had any) in that no justifiable reason can be seen for Tasering Coyle. He wasn’t an armed and dangerous criminal. Just a dude arguing with cop over a penny ante “violation.”

Will there be any consequences for P. Nielsen? Of course not. There are rarely any consequences for the P. Nielsens out there serving and protecting us, good and hard. P. Nielsen is endowed with immunities and privileges that “civilians” do not enjoy. Never mind that the Village People aren’t the military and “officer” isn’t a rank.

P. Nielsen may get a few days of paid leave. One thing is for sure. P. Nielsen isn’t going to get arrested and sent to prison for a year or so, as he ought to be – because anyone else who did what he did would surely get some hard time for recklessly and sadistically doing what P. Nielsen did.

The ugly reality is that what P. Nielsen did wasn’t unusual – excepting the burning his victim part. Armed government workers have been trained to do this sort of thing. To regard anything less than cringing submission as “resisting” and a “threat.”

And they wonder why they’re hated.

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55 COMMENTS

  1. That AGW deserves some vigilante justice, the guy he tased should get some of his buddies and track that f*cker down, put a hood on him, beat the sh*t out of him and then dump him somewhere that’s a long walk back to anywhere.

  2. Park Ranger Nielsen better hope that Mohave County Sheriff Doug Schuster isn’t one of those vaunted “constitutional sheriffs” who, with force if necessary, will defend his county’s citizens against tyrannical federal thugs.

    But I suspect Nielsen has little to worry about…

  3. The cop is an attack dog on a political leash, he can only do what he is allowed to do. As the situation in batshit insane Amerika deteriorates, the politicians are turning their armed thugs on us, to protect themselves.

    https://www.unz.com/cjohnstone/joe-biden-should-be-dying-of-cancer-in-the-hague/

    “The world is a mess because men like Joe Biden get to die peacefully in their homes of cancer.

    They live long lives free from consequences for their monstrous actions.

    They don’t spend their final days rotting in a cage for war crimes.

    Nobody makes them pay for what they did.

    The worst people on the planet are elevated by the capitalist empire to the highest echelons of power across every field, and they make life worse for everyone, and then they die comfortably of old age, surrounded by loved ones.

    That is the real source of our problems. Not immigrants. Not “woke”. Not elections going to the wrong political party. The source of our problems is that we are ruled by murderous psychopaths and do not use the power of our numbers to forcibly cast them from their thrones. That we let tyrants get away with genocide.”

    We can free ourselves from tyranny if we stop being spelled by the idea of government and see politicians as they really are – insane psychopathic criminals who use the magic of theater to fool us into voting for them.

    Politicians have created all of our problems – then they lie and tell us they can fix all of our problems – and then we fall for it every single time by voting for them!

    • I would remind everyone that the radio channel Bill Meyers broadcasts from, KMED out of Medford Orygun, has other talk show hosts who defend Trump’s crimes all day, everyday. It is so sickening I can’t even listen half the time.

      Trump is a sick mass murderer, thousands of times worse than Charles Manson, yet they defend him. Why is that? How can you defend Israel? The TV and radio are full of talking heads who do so. That means the people themselves are just as sick as the leaders.

      • Hi Jack,

        Conservative talk radio is saturated with pro-Israel commentary. Why? because it pays well. For every Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck there are hundreds more hoping to be the next Hannity or Beck and they know that to be that, they must sing for their supper, so to speak.

    • Today I completed my 4th comment on Mike Whitney’s latest article, they are worth a read, new information for your mind backed up by my own outstanding graphics and razor sharp logic. Here is the first comment I posted, scroll down to read all 4!

      Could the Crashing Yen Trigger Hyperinflation in the U.S.?

      https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/could-the-crashing-yen-trigger-hyperinflation-in-the-u-s/#comment-7727661

      Hyperinflation is not in the cards … yet. The Fed would have to be fully taken over by a socialist regime that needs more money and doesn’t care about the consequences.

  4. First of all no human being has one bit of authority over another. You all need to think about that and get very clear about the Libertarian concept that no human has any authority. Just because some thug wears a costume does not change it. Just because the criminal state gives a thug a badge does not change it. The Blazing Saddles clip “we don’t need no stinkin’ badges” comes to mind. Just because people foolishly vote for criminal politicians does not change it. No one has any authority. Cops do not have authority – they have guns. Authority is a ruse.

    “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun is a phrase and slogan which was coined by Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong. The phrase was originally used by Mao during an emergency meeting of the Chinese Communist Party on 7 August 1927.”

    All authority is actually from a barrel of a gun. Would you obey cops if they did not have guns? No you would not, you would laugh at them. If you formed your own gang of thugs, a new political party that has the means to rent thugs with guns, you could make the other state thug stand down with more guns. If you want power over cops you must have the means to stand the other cop down, by asserting a higher authority. Cops do this all the time to other cops, they claim they have a higher authority like an FBI pig does to deputy.

    Iran just did that to Trump. Iran forced the insane POTUS of the United States to back down with his threats of authority. Trump acted as the “god authority” and repeatedly declared Iran could not have a nuclear bomb. Iran has it’s own gang, and it has it’s own missiles, and it made the USA authoritarians stand down. We can do that to Trump to – by simply not believing in him and not voting for him, and when he speaks boo him, and even better hire gunmen to give him a dirt nap in hell. Fuck Trump. Any scumbag politician can be stopped if we did crowd source funding to eliminate him.

    This is the funniest scene in Blazing Saddles, Harvey Korman and Slim Pickens are funny as hell.

    Blazing Saddles (9/10) Movie CLIP – Mugs, Pugs and Thugs (1974) HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLpmswBKVN4

    • Why is Trump any better than Mao? I decided to ask Ai.

      Mao says power comes from a barrel of a gun. Why is Trump any better than Mao?

      “Donald Trump operates within a constitutional democracy with regular, peaceful transfers of power, a system of checks and balances, and a protected free press. In contrast, Mao Zedong led a totalitarian communist regime that used mass political purges, famine-inducing economic experiments, and the violent overthrow of the state.”

      Trump assists other states in genocide and mass starvation. Trump violently overthrows other states. Trump protects the Jewish press (all lies). The difference between Communist China is the USA is far more subtle when we do it. The USA brutally suicides and assassinates it’s own presidents, reform leaders all of the time. JFK, RFK, MLK, CK, congressman, etc.

  5. There’s nothing more dangerous than an armed moron who knows there are no consequences for his actions. A government of thieves, perverts and kiddie-diddlers elected by masses who obviously approve of their deeds, “giving back” a little of what the slaves cheered for, while keeping them in line.

  6. The first MF who proposed hiring rangers to watch over the king’s deer or foresters to watch over the king’s timber should have been tarred and feathered and sent back to merrie olde England.

    But what do you expect when you create a system where if even a sizeable minority of people whine enough, they get their way, regardless of whose rights it tromps on.

  7. As the temp rises in society, cars look catfish-face angrier, trucks are gargantuan, angry-looking and “compensating” for something, I don’t know, a perceived lack of control in our own lives? And there’s certainly a lot of Judge Dredd “I em da’ laww” ‘tude going around. This doesn’t end well. Maye I’ll drive my friendly-faced ’82 Vanagon more often, wave at cops with a dumb grin and show the peace sign in self-defense…

    • Paul Craig Roberts has said that Americans want their vehicles to be big, intimidating and brutal, like their government.

  8. I don’t know if it started with Prohibition, or the protests and riots of the 60s, or the crack epidemic of the 80s, or 9/11…But I have noticed that after 9/11, police militarization has really taken off.

    I worked for a defense contractor around that time, and anyone who questioned anything the military or police asked for was regarded as unpatriotic and on the wrong side in the War On Terrorism.

    A lot of police militarization was essentially pork barrel spending. Sleepy suburban towns got SWAT teams and armored vehicles, because they were supposedly necessary to deal with terrorists, which never came.

    But just like the TSA, all this police militarization did jack and squat to stop terrorists.

    • ‘Sleepy suburban towns got SWAT teams and armored vehicles’ — Bryce

      This was all voted by Clowngress and pushed by the US fedgov. When there’s ‘free money’ on tap, local govs will take it.

      Today’s personal enlightenment lesson from Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX):

      “Mitch McConnell, dead or alive, or somewhere in between?” Anthony Anderson asked her on TeeVee.

      “My theory is that maybe even half of the Senate is already dead anyway,” Crockett answered.

      “I’m just saying, I mean when you think about … they are old old. Like, old,” she continued. “So I wonder, I be like, what y’all doing over on that side? You know what I mean?” She added, on McConnell specifically, “I’m going with dead.”

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/jasmine-crockett-says-she-thinks-155056401.html

      You know in your heart she’s right. Which throws a whole new light on zombie government … :-0

      • The USA is at the same stage as that of the old Soviet Politburo with brain-dead geriatrics who have been in office so long that they are merely rubber stamps for the jewish controllers of the Republic.
        Congress and all federal government heads should be required to retire at age 70.
        The “blood of liberty” most certainly need refreshing…

    • Those hand handed out all the military-grade gear did so knowing “we have ‘met the terrorists ‘, and they is US!”

  9. I’m worried that if this stuff keeps up, people might start sabotaging their cruisers, doing things like putting sugar in the gas tank, and nails under the tires, and shooting out the tires. Imagine no police around to write tickets and take the cars and money of people who patronize hookers and buy illegal drugs.

  10. At this point, I am starting to think that these LEO’s do not give a damned if we plebs hate them. They have the force of the law (crooked judges, their “brothers-in-blue”) to back up any BS they might come up with-real or imagined. What is the public going to do? Probably nothing. However, I cannot help but think that one day there will be a straw to break the camel’s back. An an innocent person is going to get pulled over, endures this kind of treatment (for nothing), and simply shoots back first. But THEY will be the “bad guy” for defending themselves against a tyrant that would make the Stasi, and the NKVD/ KGB/ FSB look proud.

    • That is why when back in the day I would hear “conservatives” defend the cops that beat up Rodney King and it would piss me off to no end. Yes, Rodney King had a criminal record and was not what would be described as an “upstanding citizen” (a term which more and more describes a bootlicker), but he in no way deserved what was done to him. I also understood the anger that was felt in the aftermath of their acquittal by a cop-friendly jury, although the subsequent riots were counterproductive at best.

      This story should be shared with any “back the blue” friends and relatives you may have, and they should be firmly asked if they support this kind of thing.

      • The most noticeable aspect of conservatism today is that it has failed entirely to actually conserve anything that was once considered of value, such as due process or innocent until proven guilty. Recall Chesterton’s Fence. No one asks why a thing exists before mindlessly tearing it down.

      • The “Rodney King” riots, which certainly weren’t HIS fault, did everything to undermine any serious and objective discussion of Police Brutality. It became a race-baiting issue, even though far more whites than blacks are the victims of crimes perpetrated under “Color of Authority “.

  11. Some quick legal research: The claim of an open gate is from Coyle. USFWS officers do have statutory authority outside of federal lands, to investigate violatons pertaining to their subject matter area, and have authority to arrest for any violation of any law if the offense is committed in their presence and they witness it.
    The Tasering, however, is the big one. With no clear probable cause, with no clear justification for use of force, under Arizona law, the tasering and subsequent bodily damage caused by ignition near fuel pumps would be considered aggravated assault.
    the Taser use is definitely a violaton of strict USFWS guidelines for safe deployment.

    Also, the Supreme Court has ruled that physical force is a form of seizure, under the Fourth Amendment. At the very least, absent any active resistence from the citizen or any other legal justification for use of force, once the taser prongs hit the citizen, this could become a massive 4th Amendement violaton.

    So, we have two main legal issues: was the following and demand for ID part of the original investigation? And, separately, was the use of force justifiable and will Arizona prosecute this officer? If the use of force is eventually found to have been not justifiable, that leaves this officer open to alot of liability, both criminal and civil.

    • But this incident, like others, shows its never good policy to argue with officers.

      Just be calm, cool, assert your rights, then remain silent.

      Comply with their orders, make it clear you are invoking your right to remain silent and your right to have your attorney present during questioning. “Officer, I am invoking my right have an attorney present before answering any questions. I do not consent to any searches. I am invoking my right to remain silent and I will not answer any questions”

      Then comply. Physical or verbal resistance is stupid. You will always lose when you argue with a cop.

      If the recording becomes a matter of investigation, we always want to appear to be the calm, reasonable one.

      • What is immediately noticeable in this comment is immediately it heavy – handedly pulls the reader back onto the plantation, by confidently assuming that no one questions or desires to abolish altogether the system itself, but rather wishes to merely tweak it. “Act as if”, I believe its called. The reader is then offered hope and assurances with examples of possible remedies within the system framework, and also encouraged to have the strength to accept what ‘cannot be changed.’
        “I know, I know… it’s actually slavery, not freedom, and they rape and kill children in loyalty rituals, but what can you do? I’m just gonna live my life and be happy over here, with whatever little space they give me. What can you do?”
        And these are the authentic views of an everyday American, right?

        • You are on a plantation, may as well learn to live with it.
          Go to prison if you want. I dare you to challenge the system everytime you
          come into contact with it, refuse to comply then see how much time you have to type comments on website articles

          I was only pointing out the disparity in the relationship, and that survival is the goal, not proving your point. IF you want the satisfaction of being right and also being dead or caged up, be my guest.

          If we dont like the plantation we are on, our options are: learn to live as free as possible within the constraints placed upon us, or move to a different plantation where the constraints are less onerous or less likely to be enforced.

      • “Then comply. Physical or verbal resistance is stupid. You will always lose when you argue with a cop.”

        Bullshit! Be a man. Do not let another man, any man, abuse you.

        Is life so precious that you’d prostrate yourself before another man if he demands it? No! Teach him the error of his ways or die fighting honorably, valiantly and justly take your place by the great men of the past in Valhalla.

        I did not watch the video (I want to sleep tonight), but if the victim had a chance to put his tormentor in the ground while out in the wild like a rabid animal should be, with no one around, he should have done it then in self defense. Then carried on with his life with a clear conscience.

        The State (and their devoted adherents) preach that resistance is futile and plants into your brain the idea of inevitability, but it is a god-damned lie!

        • Here here Philo , my late granddad always preached you may as well go down fighting and have only one story when the squad cars arrive,yours.

          Violence does work.

        • So you’ve never had any interaction with law enforcement your whole life?
          I assume with your stated attitude of absolute resistance to any abuse no matter how minor the issue, you are either in prison now or reacting from beyond the grave?

          I guess since you admit you did not even bother to watch the video you do treasure your sanity, peace of mind, and ability to make decisions for yourself, something you would give up if you actually lived what you advise others to do.

          Emotions are a fine thing, but not for making decisions.

          My advice is the best advice to survive encounters with the police, and have recourse within the legal framework we all live in, if you were “abused by another man” rather than sink into the pit with him and go all Old Testament and kill him. OH yeah, that will definitely make an impression.

            • You didn’t answer Andy’s question. I too would like to know if you have ever had any interaction with law enforcement, and if so, how rather than in weakness prostrating yourself, you stood strong and taught the government tyrants the error of their ways? Have you ever had to use lethal force when resisting? What was the outcome?

              I’m not asking for a translation; I’m asking for answers. (I know you don’t owe me anything.)

              • I treat people with kindness and expect the same in return. All men are flesh and blood and flawed. I try to remember that. With respect to official encounters, I have experienced a very short segment of the gradient that exists between “slightly annoying me” and “trying to kill me”. Not being a psychopath, I have, so far, reasonably made the necessary distinctions and successfully navigated my way through this life mostly unscathed, with dignity and self-respect intact.

      • Many civil rights lawyers preach your first task is to survive the encounter and secondary to give your lawyer something to work with in court.

        It does no good to argue and be belligerent, you will lose to the criminals with badges and they absolutely believe that dead men tell no tales. If you resist you have to fight like hell to win.

        -anon

        • Qualified immunity gives criminals in blue even more rights than that of the ordinary mundane citizen.
          Ordinary citizens have to know their rights and even then, rogue cops can flout them with almost total protection that qualified immunity gives them.
          Long out-of-print but still available as a PDF is “Unintended Consequences” by author John Ross. Its a good read that weaves a decent story with history, law, defense, and other necessary scenarios that can be used to tame a rogue government. When this book was first published, sellers were routinely harassed by FBI, DEA, and other federal agency types because of its somewhat volatile and provocative nature. Original hard copies are going for hundreds of dollars on ebay and other websites. Although approximately 800 pages, I couldn’t put it down and read it in one sitting.

    • If the assault victims claim is valid theres gotta be an ACLU leaning attorney somewhere in Scottsdale to team up with an ambulance chaser and put that piece of shit pig on the street with the rest of the losers.

    • On public land, if the gate isnt locked, or clearly signed, it is accessible to the public. I’ve spent a whole lot of time on forest service and BLM land and if here is a gate in your way, you open it and close it after you.

      And cringing in front of small men’s tyranny has never been the American way. There would never have been an American revolution if the Americans had been obedient to those who wanted to be their masters.

    • “…will Arizona prosecute this officer?”

      Are you kidding? Remember when Boundary County, Idaho filed manslaughter charges against FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi for his murdering Vicki Weaver while she was holding her 10-month-old baby?

      The feds shut down that action forthwith (using removal jurisdiction), then later decided that well, ok, Idaho can prosecute Horiuchi. But Boundary County’s new prosecutor decided to drop the charges, naturally.

      The FBI promoted Horiuchi, and the federal government paid all of his criminal and civil legal fees through it all.

  12. “Use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers … has been approved.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8xbT_4Q4qg

    I just saw that movie running on what’s left of basic cable the other night.

    If you look carefullly, at the end of the Hut Hut Hut antics, even Stephen Spielberg has a gun aimed at Jake and Elwood.

    Smell the hypocrisy.

  13. It begs the question of who left the gate open and was there any visible signage banning entry?

    Since the victim left when asked to leave and was subsequently injured by the enforcer I suspect there might be some grounds to sue over. I highly doubt the victim will get a real apology though.

    • It’s important to understand this point. If the gate is open, there are no signs or a map that indicates the gate is supposed to maybe seasonally closed then it’s open public land.

      The key moment would be to have on body cam (and your cell phone to preclude “technical issues”) jerk wad throws his weight around threatening trespass only occurs when you refuse to leave.

      You aren’t trespassing until you’re aware of it and make an action, either ignoring the sign or refusing when asked or commanded.

      That’s when you have to stay calm, assert your rights, maybe even tolerate being detained. Which if you followed the steps and did not refuse to leave means you have a good chance to win in court later.

      • Well-said, Kyle –

        The man acted reasonably; when the cop told him to leave, he left. That ought to have been the end of it. But the cop just had to make an issue of it. He’s the type who beats his wife/kids. A bully. An armed and badged bully who has the authoritah of the state backing him up.

        • It’s plausible he wasn’t supposed to be where he was but the legal version of trespassing never occurred because he just left when told to leave. It’s so simple a caveman could understand, which is why a hut, hut, hut bootlicking AGW can’t. The ACLU understands this, every civil rights lawyer understands this. It’s foundational to their protests. You can go anywhere you want up to the point there’s a “No Trespassing” sign or when the property owner there to say “Please leave”.

          It’s an affront that the U.S. Government “owns” lands via BLM, USFS, USFW, NPS, etc and makes the claim they have authority to “manage” it for the public “owners” by telling us what we can and can’t do on “public land”.

          The rules for trespass aren’t special for them. When Ranger Bob says you have to go then probably should move on unless you know absolutely you’re in the right and are ready for the interaction to potentially end up violent. Every single interactions with AGW have the possibility to end in cuffs or gunfire from them and it’s good to remember this when making choices. You may very well decide this is the time and place still. Just do it with eyes wide open.

          -anon

  14. It looks like robocop has been abusing steroids which leads to increased chances of violent outbursts and possible brain shrinkage. He is the perfect poster boy for the government goon squad.

    • Steroid abuse by LEOs is a serious issue that our bought and paid for so-called MSM totally ignores. Back when I lived in Loudoun County VA I would see at least half of them with the tell-tale puffed out chest and swollen neck and head, usually topped by a military style buzz cut.

      The IDF has come to the US and is disguised as “law enforcement”.

      • 100 percent, MQ –

        I lift. Very few dudes – especially dudes well into their 40s – can hulk up like that without ‘roids. Look at NFL players back in the ’60s and even into the ’70s, before ‘roids became a common thing. The guys were big. But not Freaks of Nature big. Even OJ was only about 210 during his peak years.

        • I’ve been lifting since ’86. Pro athletes were far more muscular and much leaner in the 90s, the physical pinnacle of Americans. Skill position football players and NBA players often had bodybuilder physiques then. The physiques of Terrell Davis, Terrell Owens, Scottie Pippen, Shawn Kemp were typical. Look at Penny Hardaway and Shaq in Blue Chips with Nick Nolte. Very muscular, very lean.
          NFL and NBA players today have three-dot torsos and they are smooth. Unlike 90s players, you cannot tell from looking at them that they are elite-level athletes. They are weaker as well.
          Television and movies tell the same story. Look at the Steve Harvey Show cast vs the Abbot Elementary cast. Look at the brother in Just One of the Guys. Look at Spiccoli in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Skinny and muscular was very typical for white boys back then. The ecto-mesomorphic physique was common.
          I noticed that America inexplicably stopped producing the heavyweight champions in boxing and MMA in the early 2000s, after over a century of dominance. Also, many comment on my job on how small boys have gotten over the years. The sixteen year-olds look twelve and aren’t much wider than a ruler at the shoulders, and zero are muscular. They are generally smaller-framed, fatter and shorter than sixteen year-olds in the 80s. In the ‘hood, fifth grade girls when every fight against fifth grade boys, due to size.
          But I’m positive I know why, and could avoid the same outcome for any son I have, and I know many other parents are catching on as well. Its so simple. The difference between the children of the parents who figured it out and those who haven’t will be very obvious in a few years though. I’m already seeing it, the occasional kid who looks like they came from another era. I know something their parents’ know.

          • Ever wonder why many cops are so stupid? The steroids they take inhibit rational thinking as well as making one more aggressive, to the point of irrational thinking and stupidity.
            Of course the “laws” are set up to absolve them of responsibility for their actions. Police departments do not test for steroids.
            Observe SWAT teams who are all tatted up and on steroids who cannot read the address on a warrant properly and end up hitting the wrong house, often with disastrous results. This happens more often than most people think. They claim that “dynamic entry” tactics, smashing and destroying everything in sight is from an “adrenaline rush” and not steroid use (yeah right).
            “Qualified immunity” and other “carve-outs” are but two of many “laws” that absolve cops of actions resulting from their inherent stupidity and steroid use.

        • OJ , like many running backs, had that explosive speed that extra muscle mass would have inhibited. He was actually big for a running backmof his time. He also was great at making receptions coming out of the backfired. But most linebacker were no bigger than he, and defensive backs usually a bit smaller. He didn’t NEED today’s “ROIDS”.

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