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A major anti-Obama YouTube channel with 55 million views was shut down yesterday just days after a new policy went into effect handing governments the power to flag “extremist” content on the video sharing website.

Media commentator and activist Mark Dice, whose channel had 55 million views and 265,000 subscribers, had his account suspended yesterday for what YouTube described as “severe terms of service violations”. The channel was not deleted due to copyright issues.

The most popular videos on Dice’s channel lambasted supporters of Barack Obama. Dice had built up a reputation for his ‘man on the street’ videos which featured him getting Obama supporters to sign petitions that called for a number of insane proposals, like putting gun owners in concentration camps, killing newborn babies, repealing the first amendment to silence criticism of Obama, and granting Obama immunity from all crimes.

After Dice made a video drawing attention to the censorship on his back-up channel, that too was deleted despite having zero strikes against it. The channel was subsequently restored the next day, but Dice’s main channel remains suspended. Attempts to get an explanation for why the channel was deleted have proven fruitless.

Dice’s YouTube channel was also deleted after parent company Google gave some 200 government and police organizations “super flagger” powers, enabling them to flag up to 20 videos for review and possible removal.

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  1. Way of a Warrant – Googul admits they are now a Googulag where our virtue selves are held prisoner

    Googul is evil, because it claims to be an innocent value provider, but then behind its users backs, engages in all kinds of snitching and data retention.

    None of this is necessary, they could merely provide services without data retention, but choose not to.

  2. Resistance Against the New YouTube Police

    Are you withholding yourself from the world? Be yourself. Everyone else is taken.

    Be Yourself – The Story of Your Life – Stef Molyneux

    Selling your life to sit in a box and work for a machine. An uncaring machine that demands productivity that doesn’t understand you and doesn’t want to understand you. There’s no natural behavior.

    Everyone is wearing clothes they don’t want to wear. Everybody is showing up and doing something they don’t want to do. They have no connection to it. That’s the problem with our society.

    And then what’s the reward for all this stuff? Go home and get a big TV. Go home you’re going to get a shiny belt buckle. You’re going to get that dream car.

    Every week we’re chasing down this new object and every week we’re trying to fill this hole in this sad shadow of a life we’ve been left with after work. That you worked 8 to whatever hours a day plus commuting and that is your life, that’s your real fucking life.

    And most of us have committed to that and we understand that it’s a trap because we got out of it. But for the people that are in it, a lot of the time they don’t even understand it’s a trap.

    Society Trap – Joe Rogan
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfy5Enz6-c

    Surviving Reddit Founder on Stratfor Leaks and Internet Freedom
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7UW7ZZlps

    • Long term psych Training Tor. People are nothing more than horses or cows waiting for the owner to deliver the alfalfa (big screen, car or whatever) at the end of the day. In 2014 the big corporate owners have even run the local owners out of town. Honey, what’s on HBO?

      • Brilliant corporate idea for world peace.

        Combine all the TV stations, all the cable channels, and all the internet content throughout the world into one massive television service.

        People will sit at home channel surfing millions of channels and IP addresses, but still won’t find anything worth watching. But they’ll be content.

        This will become the de facto world government and no one will get hurt.

  3. I’m really starting to get behind the paid-for service model. Everywhere else we pay for services, but online for some reason we all expect it to be free. Heck, we even pay for Internet service, FWIW. Yet, for some reason we (meaning content consumers) expect a free lunch, and will even go to great lengths to avoid payment, from installing ad blockers to breaking the law just to watch a crappy movie. Meanwhile, millions of dollars are spent on advertising that is rather dubious in nature, designed to blur the line between content and advertising (search for “native advertising” and you’ll see that much of the editorial on many pages is bought and paid for), while still not demonstrating actual value.

    The fix is, of course, to just pay a few bucks to the sites you frequent. I actually like the New York Times model, where you get a few stories for free, but after that you have to start paying. Some would argue that model would worsen the digital divide, insomuch as people who can’t afford expensive content won’t be able to read it, but that’s always been the case. And what’s wrong with that anyway? If information is valuable price it accordingly. Day old newspapers were free, after all.

    The “pay for what you want” model could carry over to all that other stuff we do on the Internet too, like email. I’m looking at setting up my own mail server, in my house. I’d love to just pay someone a reasonable monthly fee to keep an eye on it and administer it, but that model doesn’t exist (yet). Because it’s physically in my house, there are different rules surrounding what the state can and can’t do to it. And I have ultimate control over it. If I want to, I can unplug it. You can’t ever unplug your gmail account, that data isn’t yours. Possession is 9/10s of the law, right?

    • “The “pay for what you want” model could carry over to all that other stuff we do on the Internet too”

      A lot more people will be willing to consider something like that as soon as nobody can track the payments. An anonymous debit card one could authorize to pay the websites would be a good thing, or any system that wouldn’t require you to make a separate financial transaction each time. And no, I do not consider “bitcoin” to be a viable option for most of us.

      The “subscription” deal is good, as long as it is anonymous. The whole NSA tracking thing is a major roadblock now. They have our email and browsing info whenever they want it. Who wants to hand them their financial data as well if they don’t use banks, etc.?

      • I’ve had good luck with pre-paid cards from the grocery store. You can pay cash for them, and they work like credit/debit cards online. Yes, there’s a fee, but back in the time before sweep accounts banks charged for most of their services and only paid interest on savings and CDs. It’s only in the last few decades that we got used to “free” banking (that comes with a terrible cost, as we’re all learning).

        • Last time I looked into prepaid cash cards you needed to provide a slave identification number (aka “SSN” or “social”) in order to activate them, making their use less than private. I don’t know if this has changed.

          I use cash for all local purchases and rarely buy online. When making an online purchase I look for companies that will let you send in a money order for payment (such as rockauto.com).

  4. This page uses googuhl adwords, googuhl insights, googuhl webcache, googuhl code, googuhl api, and googuhl fonts.

    If you have a search box on your site, it uses googuhl.

    If you have any buttons on your site, they probably use googuhl.

    If you use the wordpress platform, you have googuhl.

    That is the mark of a central authoritarian nation, and world. As Mama Liberty said, they are in the air, the water, the soil, and the flame. They are legion.

    Once the scale of interaction is seen as large enough, they intervene and make sure people are not allowed to interact without the state, or one of its state controlled corporations.

    Googuhl is privately held property and a capitalist operation. Googuhl is also state-controlled and made to carry water for the PTB.

    It’s almost like the Walking Dead. If a company becomes successful enough, it undergoes the zombie transformation.

    Do we just keep killing zombies, destroying corporations, when they become to big. Or do we start to find some kind of cure. Some way of reversing the zombie process.

    We’ve accomplished the first step, we recognize them. What is the second step, zombie statist science? Finding a way to quantify and measure the amount of statist zombie infection. Learning to recognize the stages and cycles of zombiefication?

  5. I don’t willingly have anything to do with “google” anywhere, but it is almost impossible to avoid. First off, there are so many different names involved, and little or no indication of the connection. Sure, you could research each little thing, but it really cuts into one’s life. And so often there really isn’t much of a viable option otherwise.

    Unfortunately, as it is, avoiding google altogether is like deciding you don’t want to breathe a single ubiquitous element in the air… lots of luck filtering out just that one.

  6. spoken in church chat – church lady voice:
    Remember when Steve Jobs said he would spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in cash to destroy Android, because it was a stolen product. And then all of the sudden he got cancer. Gee, I wonder who gave Steve Jobs cancer? Who could it be. I don’t know, maybe it could be Googuhl!

    • Well, one could argue that if his cancer was detected and treated early enough he’d still be with us. Instead he went the “holistic” route that is often promoted on the Internet. By the time he realized it was all hokum it was too late.

      Now, what if Google’s first hits when he did a search were debunking quackery cancer cures?

      (I realize many readers of EP Autos think much of modern medicine is crap and “all natural” is the way to go, so up front I’ll say I’m not getting into that debate!)

      • Hi Eric,

        The problem, as I see it, is that we have a “marketplace” dominated by a single player.

        Imagine a big grass field, on which any vendor can set up a stand to sell whatever he wants to try to sell – without coercion and without artificial advantages. That’s a free market.

        But online, Google effectively controls the field – and thus, the market. True, you can “set up shop” – but unless Google smiles upon you – according to its internal, inscrutable, arbitrary rules – you’re effectively prevented from participating in the market. It’s like you have a stand – but it’s hidden behind a tent or boarded up. Potential customers might find you, if they take they time to peel back the tent flap or pull down a board or two… but most will never even be aware you’re there at all.

      • Almost everyone can research and discover all of the potential alternatives, and there are plenty of clinical studies available for those in the mainstream. When all is said and done, each person must be responsible for him/herself and the choices made, actions taken. It’s no good trying to blame someone else, and especially not in this case since the man had no lack of resources.

        The requirement is freedom, choice, the liberty to act as one sees fit. Nobody should be able to limit or prevent that, regardless of what they believe.

      • Eric G has made clear he is not interested in the Orthodox Medicine vs. Alternative Medicine debate.

        Therefore I am respecting his wishes. I am directing this comment at others on this forum, not Eric G.

        Correlation of course is not proof. But it is often a valuable first clue.

        For example, G. Edward Griffen, author of “The Creature from Jekyll Island,” which exposes the Banksters, is also the author of “A World without Cancer” which exposes Big Pharma.

        This should clue one in to which side of the fence Orthodox Medicine is on.

        Orthodox Western Medicine is the cat’s meow for some things. If one is in a car crash, one definitely wants an expert Western medical trauma surgeon on one’s case.

        Chronic diseases? Not so much. Often, not at all.

        • RE: “If one is in a car crash, one definitely wants an expert Western medical trauma surgeon on one’s case. ”

          From the numbers of people which doctors, their mistakes, and their medicines kill so very many of these days, I’m not sure even then.

          The Starfield lightning bolt: medical killers

          “The US medical system kills 225,000 Americans a year.

          106,000 deaths per year from FDA-approved medical drugs.

          119,000 deaths per year from error-ridden treatment in hospitals.”…

          http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-starfield-lightning-bolt-medical-killers/

          • The US medical system is the third leading cause of death in the US.

            Seems to me it’s ‘number one’ if you factor in a few other things.

            I’d go on, but my time is up for the night.

          • Dear Helot,

            I think we’re on the same page here.

            Caveat emptor would of course still be the order of the day.

            Who is “expert” when it comes to trauma surgeons? That’s another difficult question.

  7. I think you might be amused by this endorsement by Gary North of Google’s behaviour:-

    This is the heart of liberty [quoting a Guardian article he is rebutting, inset]:

    9 Web dominance gives companies awesome (and unregulated) powers

    Take Google, the dominant search engine. If a Google search doesn’t find your site, then in effect you don’t exist. And this will get worse as more of the world’s business moves online. Every so often, Google tweaks its search algorithms in order to thwart those who are trying to “game” them in what’s called search engine optimisation. Every time Google rolls out the new tweaks, however, entrepreneurs and organisations find that their online business or service suffers or disappears altogether. And there’s no real comeback for them.

    The public likes to use Google. Google makes money because it serves customers. Producers try to game the system; then Google takes away their advantage. This is exactly what I want as a consumer.

    One really, really big problem with North is that he has a standard procedure of his own for sidelining people who try to tell him when he has got things wrong – as I once tried. He first thanks them in a standardised reply without ever registering any knowledge whatsoever of what he was just informed about, then on their trying again he tells them they are perfectly free to put out their own views on the internet (without getting the point that only a correction from him on his site is likely to reach and put straight many of those whom he misled), and if he is then told that only he can fix his own misrepresentations he blocks their emails and replies scathingly to tell them of the block, on the grounds that his own life is too busy to waste time on what other people have to tell him – and never mind that his readers’ lives are too busy to avoid being seriously tricked by errors he never admits. So all is well in North land and nothing will ever tell him or his readers otherwise, just as he tells people – and will keep on telling people – that all is well in Google land. Even your own experiences will never register with him as anything but evidence that it is right and proper to suppress contrary evidence, since out of confirmation bias he will be absolutely and invincibly ignorantly certain that the only way you could ever have come to complain is if you had been seeking to game the system yourself, and he is already firmly in the camp that believes in suppressing anything contrary to his own assertions – after all, Google is only doing what he himself does, suppressing inconvenience regardless of whether it is true or not. But you are at least able to tell some people some things, which is far more than would be achieved by most people following the vacuous suggestions he makes when told of his own errors. Try it – see if he will correct his assertions about how a free market Google must be working for the best, at any rate if you try telling him without mentioning that you do have some clout of your own. Go on, see if he follows his usual casually offensive sequence dismissing evidence against his own assertions and then dismissing anything at all from people who tell him.

    • Blockquote just deleted the insetting that marked off the Guardian material North was quoting from his own remarks about it. In the above blockquoted stuff, the first and last paragraphs are North’s and the part between is the Guardian’s.

    • Indeed, PM –

      To me, North’s reasoning is circular:

      “People like to use Google.” (Italics added)

      No, most of them use it because it’s “there” – and that’s all there is.

      Did the people of East Germany like Trabants?

      The Net was supposed to be diffuse but has become highly centralized. Yes, anyone can launch a web site or blog. But the analogy is a vast shopping mall in which you or I cannot buy or rent a storefront/kiosk. In which we’re told we may only do business on their terms, if at all.

      In the case of EPautos.com Google screwed us over not because we were “gaming” anything. Yet we lost almost everything.

      How did Google get to be the Great Decider of the Internet?

      Wasn’t the whole point of the ‘Net to get away from Deciders – information “gatekeepers” – and such like?

  8. Quid pro quo – for leting Goog execs on a “business lunch” park their jets and get discount fuel at US military bases.

    Google executives love to fly, and they fly a lot. A recent NASA report by the space agency’s inspector general found chartered jets shuttling GOOG higher-ups received discounted fuel from the federal government that they weren’t entitled to…
    http://www.fastcompany.com/3023502/check-out-googles-new-82-million-corporate-jet-facility

    • Dear Gary,

      Textbook case of power corrupts.

      Google started out reasonably market oriented if I recall correctly. They diligently anticipated market needs and met them. Hence their fortune.

      But the existence of the state and the option of granting state privilege to those willing to “cooperate” was too much.

      It’s one of many reasons I eventually gave up on minarchism. The difference between minarchism and maxarchism is time. There is no such thing as an old minarchist state. By the time it is old, it is already maxarchist.

      To wit, the USSA.

      • Morning, Bevin!

        YouTube/Google of course, have every legal right to set terms of service. What sticks in my craw is their obvious determination to suppress dissent while feigning they are merely mediums of information exchange. To my knowledge, no Obama-cheerleading videos or web sites have been taken down or blacklisted; no badge-licking or authority-amen’ing is ever slapped with a “TOS” violation.

        And this Mike Dice guy is experiencing the same issue EPautos experienced. The impossibility of even getting a hearing to discuss the alleged “violation” – or even to find out exactly what it is.

        They just turn you off.

        Now, if this were a human-scaled community, Google/YouTube’s actions could be dealt with by talking/publishing through other megaphones (so to speak). The problem with Google/YouTube (as I see it, anyhow) is the “corporate” problem of a no-longer-human-scale thing that by dint of its enormity and pervasiveness can insolently direct how things are going to go, what choices people will have, what they’ll hear and read – and thus, what they’ll think.

        It’s no accident that the media in this country has become an outright mouthpiece for the government-corporate beast. Back in the ’90s, Clintigula and Congress removed the laws that previously prevented mega-consolidation of media outlets. Almost everything was quickly subsumed under a literal handful of massive corporate owned cartels.

        This is why, instead of Watergate (and outrage over My Lai) Bradley Manning is in prison and Richard Snowden is in Russia and the TeeVee news is constantly babbling about the Kardashians or Moochelle Obama’s latest dress.

        Alternative media is a small fraction of the media – something like 5 percent. The struggle to get other-than-orthodox new/opinion out to the people is a climbing-Everest sort of challenge. Very few of us can make a living doing it. Which wears on you, no matter how much passion you’ve got. Ultimately, the mortgage has to be paid and food put on the table.

        Fox News has no such worries. We need another blonde bimbo for the six o’ clock? Call downstairs and send one up…

        • Dice and his interviews is proof the Ministry of Truth (public schools, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, FOX, ESPN, … and all the major print publications ) has succeeded in creating the know-nothing Zombie culture.

          I like Yahoo News. All movie or sports stars, their clothing and boyfriends all the time.

          • Dear Gary,

            Mark Dice really ups the ante on Jaywalking. Literally.

            I didn’t realize I had already watched a couple of his videos years ago, the one where he tries to sell passersby a one ounce Canadian Maple Leaf for 25 dollars US, and gets NO TAKERS!

            Frankly, I was worried for him. Would hate to see him take a 1475 dollars US loss in the blink of an eye.

          • The Mark Dice gold coin video has a fatal flaw. A reasonable person would think it a scam.

            For instance, some guy on the street wants to sell you a 1969 Boss 302 Mustang for $5,000. He has a friend at the used car lot nearby that will testify to its actual market value. Does this sound like a scam? Of course it does. It sounds like either the car is a faked junker or stolen. Same thing with the gold coin.

          • Dear Brent,

            I should probably clarify.

            I don’t think the Dice gold coin gimmick proved that “Murcans are dumb.” I think it proved merely that there is no gold bubble — yet.

            When there is a gold bubble, Dice will not be able to get away with that particular gimmick any more.

        • When things get too big – termed “rank growth,” meaning undisciplined, pointless, and even unsafe or unhealthy, like kudzu – you need to size it back down.

          Ball bat to kneecaps style works for me. Brutal and honest…

          Most people either don’t realize they’re in league with the devil, or CHOOSE not to see they’re in league with the devil.

          Long since past time we fixed that. This isn’t Sears catalogue putting local stores out of business, ro even Amazon putting Brick-and-mortar out fo business. This is social engineering: THEY bought the ballfield, and we’re ALL being FORCED to play cricket – even if we’d like to go swimming, or horseback riding, or even JUST SIT ON THE SIDELINES AND WATCH.
          So, FTAFTF. (As was said here several times over the last year.)

          Just need to find a good hard source fo that first F.

      • Dear Eric,

        Your point about Google having been seduced by the Darkside of the Force is absolutely right.

        The existence of The State enables once virtuous business entities to do that after they have made it. It enables them to pull the ladder up behind them, to slam the door shut to competition behind them.

        As John D. Rockefeller put it “Competition is a sin.”

  9. For years, we’ve been regaled with talk of the “Great Firewall of China.”

    But if anyone was naive enough not to realize that all governments are merely Tweedledum or Tweedledee. None are better than others. Some are merely worse than others.

    The underlying nature always comes through. It has to. Why? Because government is by its nature, brute force physical coercion. If it weren’t, it wouldn’t be government.

    As a result, the “brute” aspect has to emerge from behind any “kinder, gentler” mask eventually.

  10. Someone must have the opinion:

    If negative opinions are not visible then they do not exist.

    Reminds me of the newspeak dictionary from 1984. Keep removing what is offensive (to some) in the hope that you can prevent offensive (to some) actions from occurring.

    This country is not as free as I remember.

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