Consent – or Else

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If a man walks up to a woman and places his hands on her body without her permission – her consent –  it is considered at least an affront. If he continues, after she has made it very clear his advances are not welcome, it is considered – rightly and in law  – sexual assault and that man is subject to arrest and criminal prosecution.

Consent is also demanded – in law – when it comes to most contracts. You cannot legally be bound by a contract you never signed, nor by one which you were forced to sign – because duress obviates consent.

But the government tells us we must “consent” – or else. Also that our “consent” is implied – whenever it suits the government.

In our cars, for instance.

The doctrine has it that because we asked to be allowed to drive on the government’s roads (“public” isn’t an accurate term; ownership is a function of control. The government controls the roads and therefore owns them) we have given our “consent” to all sorts of things – including being forced to prove ourselves innocent of crimes there’s no reason to suspect us of having committed.

And also to give armed government workers lots of opportunity to find one we may have – including things which aren’t even crimes, such as not wearing a seatbelt – but which entail punishment (and profit).

Of course, we didn’t actually consent to any of this.

All we wanted was to drive. That is to say, to travel – a thing which used to be a recognized right but which has become a conditional privilege.

If we refuse to consent, force will be applied to us as punishment for not consenting.

How is this not exactly the same thing – in principle – as punishing a woman for refusing to let a man feel her up?

Damned if you do – and damned if you don’t.

The latest  thing we have apparently “consented” to is the handing over our data to armed government workers, if we’re involved in a crash. The pretext being there might be evidence of our having been texting while driving.

Nevada has a new law in the works designed to officialize this electronic Pepe Le Pewing…  others will almost certainly emulate.

But it’s much more than just evidence of texting they’re fishing for.

It is a general search of your phone, using CelleBrite – a creepy technology developed in Israel to copy everything on your phone and continue copying it – at least until you put the thing under your foot and stomp it to death.

Cellebrite can be used to download the owner’s contacts, web browsing activity, text conversations, stored voicemails, photos, videos and geolocation data that tells where the device (and so, its owner) have been.

And it’s not just cell phones, either.

Cellebrite works dandy on tablets and laptops, too.

If the device’s owner does not consent to this unlimited, non-specific and potentially ongoing search, the law imposes the now-usual “or else,” punishment prior to the establishment of any guilt – the new American Way.

It “… requires the suspension of the driver’s license of a driver who refuses a request by a peace officer to use such technology… .” 

“Request” italicized to emphasize the fact that it isn’t one. A request is something you are asked to do but can refuse to do – without repercussions. If the “request” comes with an “or else,” then it is an order.

The legal language ought at least to be honest – but that might cause people to think and we can’t have that.

Instead, the language is used to mask the fact and make it go down easier. To provide the illusion of consent.

Just  as we are “customers” of the IRS and “contribute” to Social Security.” A government thug is merely “requesting” that we let him Cellebrite our data.

Alarmingly – well, even more alarmingly – this Cellebrite thing could just as easily be deployed at the random, probable cause-free “checkpoints” we have also “consented” to when we begged for permission to travel.

There is no logical reason why our phones and tablets and laptops ought not to be “checkpointed,” too. Why bother to wait for an accident? Isn’t that why we have these “checkpoints.”

After all, there might be evidence of illegal activity – not on any specific phone, tablet or laptop – but one “someone’s” phone,tablet or laptop.

Just as “someone” among the many drivers randomly stopped might be a “drunk.”

Goose – gander.

Be certain it will be so argued – and the former having been anointed permissible, it is hard to imagine on what basis a bulwark against the latter might be erected.

It is said the frog boils because the water was heated slowly; that by the time he noticed it was getting hot, it was too late. He was already cooked.

What’s left out of the story is the fact that the “frogs” – that’s us – allowed the heat to be turned up and even turn it up ourselves. For example, by demanding that the old idea of it being sounder policy to let a guilty man go free than to unjustly punish an innocent one be replaced by the idea that it is preferable to assume everyone is guilty – until they prove otherwise.

By valuing saaaaaaaaaaaaaaafety more than being safe from the exercise of arbitrary authority.

It is a sad and terrible thing.

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  1. I don’t own a cell phone, laptop or Notebook. Does that make me, in some twisted way, some sort of criminal if I’m stopped and cannot produce what the AGW orders me to produce?
    Do I then, get a beat down and taken off to jail as a domestic terrorist suspect to be renditioned to some eastern bloc country where the CIA has one of their black sites and promptly tortured into confessing 9/11?
    Or will said AGW decide I need to be removed from society as quickly as possible as I am a dangerous threat to his safety…..he needs to go home at the end of his shift so he can beat his wife, and remove the only thing that he can maintain any semblance of manhood, which is his 9mm handgun, and shoot me in the head?
    Since I don’t own a cell phone……gasp! horrors! that must make me a social outcast, anti-Semite and deplorable, I then have none to take with me whilst driving on govroads.
    Surely the AGWs could find some reason to at the very least throw me down onto the pavement head first, stomp on the back of my neck while yelling “stop resisting”, tase and pepper spray me….if I’m that lucky.
    Good thing I don’t own a drone either. Although I’ve been flying R/C since 96 and have no plans to register with such a corrupt bureaucracy as the FAA.

  2. This is the very reason why I don’t own a “smartphone” or tablet. Then again, my “old-fashioned” flip-phone does have a micro-USB port on it…

  3. The old “If you haven’t done anything wrong, then you should have nothing to hide” trick.

    Joseph Stalin had a slightly different variation: “Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.”

    • The USA is a country where countless laws are made and enforcement is selective. It’s sort of like what Stalin said but worse. Worse because the people are blind to it. They think that those who are not enforced upon are the good people and those who are, the bad people.

      Just read the other day that the Clintons made a deal where some of their home server emails were off limits. That’s power. That’s selective enforcement. Most everyone the law enforcers look at all the emails (or all of what a search warrant allows them to take) and then charge for crimes they weren’t even looking for if they so desire.

  4. Eric, most Americans and Brits for that matter are clueless. ‘No Treason,The Constitution of No Authority’ by Lysander Spooner. Spells out factually why the US government should not exist.As for Brits the voted to BREXIT. That doesn’t require some royal pain in the butt’s approval nor 3 years. It should have and could be done overnight and the issues massaged out later. After all people created government not visa versa. Problem is lethargy, ignorance, and fear of change . Government is force, resistance to tyranny is our right as humans. It starts with local government and their mercenary armed government workers who share the loot they collect. Give them an inch…

    • Excellent, EXCELLENT POINT! Lysander Spooner is mandatory reading for those whom consider themselves a “Patriot”. Specifically fellow veterans.. and THAT book.

      • Mike,

        Spooner was an anarchist and radical abolitionist, not a “Patriot”, whatever that means. Also, what is THAT book?


  5. As I suspect others here might recognize, the entire issue of “implied consent” is what makes the State function. Did you sign the Constitution or any other documents giving away your rights as a human being? I doubt it.
    With respect to the NV law on cell data copying, I suspect it will be ruled unconstitutional (the one you never signed) due to its broad sweep. For a search warrant they need probable cause. Speeding or crashing probably doesn’t qualify for a broad search. They can already tell from your cell service whether or not you were on the phone “when the crash happened.” If so, that may or may not be probable cause for a judge. Just being stopped by some cop isn’t enough. If you hurt someone and go on trial, that might be another story. Also, absent a judicial order cell service providers or phone makers likely won’t “unlock” your phone just because some DA wants them to. That’s been litigated. So soon someone will take them to court over this “suspension” threat and we’ll see what happens when you don’t “voluntarily” unlock your phone.

    • Hi Muggles,

      The doctrine of implied consent presupposes the legitimacy of the institution in question and is not, per se, illegitimate. For instance, accepting food at a restaurant does legitimately imply consent to pay for it. The legitimacy is not derived from the fact that people pay, but from the status of legitimate ownership. Statists claim that paying taxes, using services, not leaving, etc… is proof of “consent”, and thus confers legitimacy to the State. If this is true, then payment for “protection” services to the mafia must also confer legitimacy to that institution. Neither the State, nor the mafia, have a legitimate ownership claim over the area the presume to rule. When the mafia demands payment, no one considers agreement to pay to be a grant of consent. When the State demands payment, most believe that payment is a grant of consent.

      Kind Regards,

  6. I had to think about your example for a minute…man putting hands on woman equates to gov’t claiming we consented by driving on their roads…I couldn’t make it work for me until I added “in man’s apartment.” By the gov’ts logic, a woman who enters a man’s apartment has consented to anything the man wishes to do. Of course, this is ludicrous, but there is a small subset of men and women who truly believe that is true. I just didn’t know those are the people who constitute the gov’t.

    • The “government/state” can’t even prove it owns roads, let alone an apartment. “Government/state” is an abstract. Abstracts can’t own anything because abstracts don’t physically exist. Only a human or group of humans can own something. If a human or group of humans claim to own something, their signatures go on the claim. Politicians have never made a claim to road ownership and will have anyone who tries to make that claim jailed or shot.

  7. It “… requires the suspension of the driver’s license of a driver who refuses a request by a peace officer to use such technology… .”

    “Peace officer”. There ain’t none of those in America today; all we have is “Law Enforcement Officers”, who could more properly be called “war officers”, since their entire purpose is to make war on the populace — using our own money to do so.

    The government has declared this war on us. It’s up to us to respond appropriately.

  8. I was a cell phone salesman about 5 years ago; Cellubrite was a device that copied stuff from a customers old phone to their new one as a convenience. I never imaged it would be used for this. Our version required the customer to enter their pass code, I am hopefully that the LE version requires the same. If you had told me 10 years ago this was going on I wouldn’t have believed it in the USA.

  9. Face it, we don’t live in a free country. When I was a kid, they used to tell me that you needed an internal passport and government permission to travel in the Soviet Union. Well, now we have “Real ID.”

    But what really worries me is the digital technology and the predictive AI that’s been developed over the last 20-25 years — coupled with the post 9/11 pretext of “keeping us safe.”

    The dictatorships of the 20th century needed filing cabinets and paper records and actual people to keep tabs on you. It was at least possible to try to lay low and stay off the government’s radar.

    Not any more. We’re only starting to get an inkling of how “THEY” are going to use this technology against us. Just look at what the FBI and the NSA did to Trump — wiretapping his campaign, releasing transcripts of his phone conversations with foreign leaders, and indicting his associates on bogus charges.

    Of course, Trump made a big target of himself. But someday they’re going to do this to Joe Average, too. I always like to point out that Hitler would have had multiple orgasms if the Jews had cell phones in the 1940s. He would have killed all of them instead of only half of them. Anne Frank wouldn’t have lasted a week hiding behind the book shelf… the SS would have caught her texting, targeted her GPS coordinates, and sent her packing to Auschwitz years before they actually did.

    Don’t think that there aren’t people who wouldn’t be happy to do that today. Not to the Jews, of course — they’re a “protected class.” But to the Deplorables who refuse to go along with the global warming and transgenderism and gay marriage hoaxes, and the gun control and the socialism. They already think you’re a lowly worm that deserves to be crushed… they talk about you Deplorables the same way Uncle A talked about the Jews in the 1920s.

    Someday they’re gonna start walking the walk, not just talking the talk.

    • X,

      “Face it, we don’t live in a free country. When I was a kid, they used to tell me that you needed an internal passport and government permission to travel in the Soviet Union.”

      Now you might understand why the Berlin Wall was torn down. Michigan v. Sitz was decided on Flag Day 1990.

      You know, the day after the official demolition of the wall began.

    • well it appears you’ve already fell for the holohaux and the anne frank myth made up by her dad after the war. But even questioning these things will get your ass in jail in europe. Soon here likely. If you want to know who rules you look at who youre not allowed to criticize.

      • Even if a story is a work of fiction, you can still learn lessons from the tale, and compare events in the story to real life. 1984 was a work of fiction, but now, it’s more accurate to reality than the “facts” spewed by those in the climate religion, for example.

    • Problem is that it is (certain) jews who are behind the surveillance state.
      It’s not “smarts” or “IQ” that gives jews an advantage over gentile whites, but is their rabid insistence on cultural and social cohesiveness, insularity and nepotism (but only for themselves) that gives them an “advantage”. This same cultural and social cohesiveness that is prized so highly by jewish interests is denied to gentile whites. Jews, to a man will fight to deny this same cultural and social cohesiveness to gentile whites that they themselves enjoy as it is a major part of the jewish purpose–the destruction of gentile white culture, which IS superior to any jewish cultural or social society. If jews did not possess this power, they would most likely be rag merchants, liquor merchants, or furniture merchants–nothing more.
      As I have previously stated, jewish success is based on cultural and social cohesiveness and insularity–NOT “smarts” or “IQ”. Once enough jews get into a position of power in the work world or education systems, they will hire and promote their own, even bypassing more qualified gentile white candidates.
      Jews have latched on to cultural cohesiveness and nepotism, as it serves their purpose exceedingly well.
      At the same time, jews pushed the concept of racial “equality”, (but only for gentile whites), backing it up with “civil-rights” and “equal accommodation” laws which are enforced by governments–but only against whites. These “civil-rights” laws are used as a “battering ram” against gentile whites to diffuse and fragment any semblance of gentile white solidarity and cohesiveness that may arise.
      A great reckoning dealing with the jews is coming.
      As gentile whites become more marginalized, the accusation of being tagged as “racist” or a “holocaust denier” is rapidly losing its “sting”.
      Increasingly, jews are more wary of being “called out” and recognized as “jews”. One can call a jew a shyster, shylock, bankster, criminal or ne-er-do-well, and it will roll off his back like water off a duck, BUT call a jew a “jew”, and he will recoil in horror, having been “found out”.

      • What a pantload. Bascially you are guilty of everything you accuse “the jews” of. You just want it for yourself. You just want it all for a White Christian community to the exclusion of others. (In the past you had this – it was common for Blacks and Jews, even Irish for some reason, to be denied employment and advancement.) Pot, meet kettle.

        A day of reckoning dealing with the poltroons who believe this kind of tripe is coming. (At least for those loons who act on such beliefs to harm others. Obviously people are otherwise free to believe any nonsense they desire.)

        Meanwhile the true elites, both Jew and Gentile, who work to enslave all of us on the global plantation sit back and laugh while their policy of “divide and conquer’ is carried out for them by a legion of useful idiots.

        • You fricking tell him!

          I honestly can’t stand the anti-Semitism that festers in places like this. Either a misdirection or a lazy substitute for actually thought, I’m not sure which, but either way I hate it. As far as I’m concerned you can’t be an individualist and a racist at the same time.

          • An “anti-semite” used to be someone who hates semites.
            Today’s “anti-semite” is someone who is hated by semites for not espousing the semite’s point of view.

            • “Today’s “anti-semite” is someone who is hated by semites for not espousing the semite’s point of view.”


              Anti-Semite, by the propaganda press, anyone who even remotely questioning anything Israel’s does, says or lies about. Sorry, spins.

            • Something to wake these people up is how every other “race” or country can be made fun of or criticized but Israel, AIPAC, et al bring gag orders and jail time down on you in a rain of fire if you dare question them. Makes you wonder. The holocaust laws in europe beg the question also.

              • brazos, in the recent meeting, I though Trump was going to give Bibi a reach-around. It was sickening but then again, it should be no surprise since Addleson gave so much money to Trump’s campaign.

                I wonder if he gave the same to Hitlery. Was he pissed she was in bed with the Russkies in the BLM wars on ranchers sitting on top of magnesium and uranium Russia was buying and Hitlery was getting 20%? I doubt old Sheldon gives a shit about US ranchers or US anyone else but neocons who can further Israel’s agenda.

              • Monika Schaefer…
                Sylvia Stolz…
                Ursula Haverbeck…
                Three grandmothers who have or are serving “hard time” in maximum-security prisons for daring to question “that which may not be questioned”…the “holohoax” (oops, I mean “holocaust”).
                Check it out for yourselves. You may not like what you find.
                What say you, talmudists??

                • Jews and free speech never mix. Only jews make it a crime to question or accuse them. They never collectively make admissions, therefore never need to apologize.

                  • Mike,

                    Except for Emma Goldman, Nat Hentoff, William Kunstler, Lenny Bruce, etc… It is true that some jews (a small minority) wish to criminalize speech, but it is not true that “only” jews wish to do so. In case you’ve missed it, SJW whites are leading this drive nowadays.

                    BTW, what is THAT book (I honestly don’t know) and what do you mean by “Patriot”.


            • “Anti-Semistism is a normal and natural reaction to Jewish Behavior.” On Politics, pg. 361, 3rd para. Author Albert Einstein.

            • eric, I’ve been called an anti-Semite for decades. Why? Because I rightly saw Israel and their neocon leadership is using the US and taxpayers to enrich themselves not only with handouts but with power plays in US govt. I give you that dirty piece of shit Henry Kissinger as THE example of a jew who seems to be hot shit in every administration and never saw a war he didn’t want the US to begin or be a major player in.

              Israel, and this is my true feelings since I pay attention, has been doing everything it could since it’s inception to involve the US in wars everywhere. I think it’s obvious they’re just waiting for the US to fall into some sort of thing such as a nuclear war with Russia, China or anywhere else. They have enough people who are not loyal to the US but only to Israel in our govt. to seize the reigns of power and make the US people their own slaves as they take over the ultimate power. I recall Netanyahu saying something that reeked of their desire to rule this country, and hence, the entire world.

              They don’t belong to any nuclear organization and their nuclear arsenal can only be guessed at. I can’t prove it but I know in my own mind they have plenty nuclear weapons targeted for the US. Meanwhile Congress(sic, sick)just voted to give Israel $40B over ten years. What’s new? They have been getting at least $4B a year for a couple decades.

              A few years ago they let Netanyahu address Congress in session, a treasonable crime that carries the death penalty. Why didn’t BO raise a stink? He could care less about following the Constitution and did everything he could to trash it.

              Everyone was so worried about Hitlery becoming prez they voted Trump in, yours truly included….as I held my nose.

              Right after the Las Vegas shooting Trump said he’d support a bill to ban bump stocks. Later he amended it and said “I say we go after the guns and worry about due process later”. The MF showed his true colors and then endorsed the bill Pelosi had to register everyone with a firearm.

              I’m especially pissed right now since I just got back in from killing a coyote who’d just killed a skunk that CJ let me know about. It’s the smell I associate with politicians.

              A few years ago the company mechanic and I were going through the county seat and right there on the courthouse parking lot was a big sign that said “Free BBQ Lunch”. He got all excited and I quoted him the old saw about no free lunches. He then drove around to get his free lunch while I laughed. Next sign inside the courtyard said “Free lunch with a $10 donation”. Then we both started laughing and he said “You called it right man”.

              • Don’t forget the deliberate “act of war” committed by our “friend and ally, Israel with the attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967. This attack lasted for HOURS , the Israelis even strafing the lifeboats. 34 sailors murdered and 137 wounded. there has never been a full accounting from Israel. If I had my way, Israel would have been turned into a “glass parking lot” on June 9, 1967.
                As to Israel’s undocumented nukes, here goes:
                If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.
                In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.
                The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a “special exemption” granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.
                Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already in place. Look for another false flag operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.
                Israel has also threatened to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called Samson Option is it.
                American foreign aid is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (the Symington Amendment)or refuses to abide by International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American foreign aid. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their agents of a foreign government with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..
                There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy wonks. infecting the U S government who hold dual citizenship with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of “dual citizenship” should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.
                In addition, any American citizen who serves or has served in Israel’s military (Israel Defense Forces) should automatically lose their American citizenship and be immediately deported to Israel.
                When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel. Just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States,they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel.

                • Israel is just another warmongering police state. I’m against foreign aid being sent to any country when such aid is paid for with stolen tax money. If people want to voluntarily provide aid and support to another country that is their own affair, assuming we are not at war with them.

                  By the same token just because a particular warmongering police state unilaterally declares that some group of people has “dual citizenship” there no matter where they reside is no reason to discriminate against those people. They didn’t apply for or ask for that “citizenship,” so why should they need to “renounce” it? If, say, Liberia were to declare that all Negroes had automatic citizenship there I would not consider that a reason to demand that a black person “renounce” that externally-imposed “citizenship” before being permitted government service in the United States. It doesn’t make any sense and from a libertarian perspective is just plain wrong.

                  • I must respectfully disagree. Especially when it comes to Israel. No good cam come from any politician that expresses “dual loyalty” Most countries require one to renounce foreign citizenship when applying for citizenship in another country. All one has to do is look at the traitors in Congress–those who invited Netanyahu and applauded like there was no tomorrow. One cannot serve two masters. Perhhaps you are unaware that most American politicians have signed a AIPAC “loyalty oath” pledging fealty to Israel. THAT, my friend, is just plain WRONG and should result in immediate, permanent loss of American citizenship and deportation.

                    • I must respectfully disagree, at least in the case where such dual “citizenship” is imposed by an external power, with no action taken on the part of the individual it supposedly applies to.

                      Sorry, I don’t see the “especially when it comes to Israel” part. If a politician claims fealty to any other country above that of the people he or she is supposed to be “serving” (more like “servicing”), be it Israel, China, Russia, Libera, South Africa, Lichtenstein, or whatever, then I can see removing that individual from office.

                      However if for example you came here from Norway and still have a degree of loyalty to Norway and concern yourself with affairs in Norway and the U.S. relationship with Norway that is no reason to impose permanent loss of American citizenship and deportation.

                      The criminal nature of Congress is not a new phenomenon, in fact Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) was moved to comment that there is no native American criminal class other than Congress. They are all members of a criminal gang.

                      As a libertarian I serve no master, and have no loyalty to any government since that is merely a polite euphemism for a violent criminal gang. My loyalty is to individuals. If you believe that means my citizenship should be revoked and I should be deported, feel free to write the State Department (or whatever group of mobsters would be appropriate) to commence the proceedings.

            • Well, now.

              The statement made is that (((talmudics))) practice extreme collectivism in the form of cultural/religious/racial preferences. And in reaction to that, the counterclaim is that one who recognizes that fact, is then reverting to collectivism? Really now, Think It Through. Observe that the nonsensical claim of “anti semitism” means someone who dares speak the truth regarding (((talmudics))).

              • Well now, why don’t ((((you)))) let us know specifically who these “talmudics” are, what they are doing, and what you would like to do with them in return. Or are ((((you)))) indulging in collectivism by condemning an entire group of people for what some individuals may have done?

                For example, although it is difficult to really know anyone in a forum such as this, I make you out to be a ((((blithering idiot)))). However, I would not accuse others of this simply because they happen to share the same ethnic background that you do. That would be collectivism which is wholly incompatible with libertarianism.

                  • ((((You)))) are the one making claims about “talmudists”. Therefore it is up to ((((you)))) to provide the evidence of who those specific individuals are and what they are up to that has your panties tied up in a knot. Or is providing specific evidence to support ((((your)))) accusations, rather than indulging in blanket and dubious smears, above ((((your)))) pay grade?

                  • More nonsense culled from the likes of Stormfront and the Daily Stormer – people who conveniently ignore the many evils perpetrated by their “own kind” and look for scapegoats rather than looking in the mirror. (There have been many “mafias” and most of them have been run by gentiles.)

                    I call them as I see them. “Blithering idiot” is an apt description for bigots of all stripes. Now go check under your bed and in your closet. There may be Joooooos hiding there conspiring against you!

                    • Hey Jason,

                      Seeing that Jarhead Mike seems afraid to name THAT book publicly, do yo know what the hell he is talking about?

                      I’m curious because I cannot see how Lysander Spooner and THAT book could be compatible.


                    • Jeremy, whatever “Jarhead” might be he is certainly no libertarian. (Though frankly with all the hate that he spews I really don’t know if he ever really claimed to be one.)

                      What he is doing is part of the bigots’ stock in trade, taking the fact that some members of some group have done wrong and painting all members of that group with a broad brush – even to the extent of holding people living today responsible for events that happened hundreds or even thousands of years ago. (Bigots of all types do the same thing, such as blacks who hate “whitey” and want people today to pay “reparations” for things that no living person had anything to do with.) Apparently “Jarhead” would have us believe, for example, that the guy who owns a bakery in my town and happens to be Jewish is involved in some millenia-old world-wide international conspiracy against the “White Race.” It’s collectivism, and nonsense, on its face. Totally incompatible with libertarianism.

                      Another thing such bigots delight in doing is quoting “evil” from old, and ancient, texts while ignoring their context and the times when they were written. They just love pulling random sound bites out of context. (That is, when they’re not just making shit up.) A good example of that is the talmud, an almost impenetrable tome rife with all kinds of fodder for bigots to dig into – when they ignore details such as the extant conditions thousands of years ago when it was written, primarily during the Roman occupation of Judea. The Romans were intensely hated and are the object of the the “terrible” things in the talmud.

                      Furthering that particular example, bigots also ignore the fact that, with the possible exception of a handful of fundamentalist nutters (which you’ll find in every religion), most modern Jews have never even set eyes on the talmud, have never read it, and consider it to have no relevance to the modern world. It is not a “holy” book, being essentially a book of legal opinions written by long-dead men for conditions that no longer exist. It is an artifact of history. (When bigots talk “talmudists” they are talking about practically nobody since there is virtually no one who lives by it or gives it any thought in their lives.)

                      These guys also like to parrot, in duckspeak fashion, nonsensical sayings that they pass around amongst themselves. I think one numbnuts here not long ago posted some random nonsense like “a Jew will recoil in horor when confronted with being a Jew” or some such tripe. I used to live in New York City so you might say I’ve run into a Jew or two and not one had any problem identifying him or herself that way and they took pride in it.

                      In a nutshell, everything that Jarhead and his fellow travellers “know” is wrong. It would be laughable if it were not so pitiful. I actually would not be surprised in the slightest if we were to find out that he and the others that jump in here are actually collectivist stooges looking to give libertarians a bad name, and to make this appear to be a Stormfront-like “hate site.”

                    • Hey Jason,

                      As I said in an earlier post, I think that the current hysteria about racism (including ant- semitism) being pushed is a cynical ploy designed to keep people apart and to create conflict. The openly racist members of the alt-right think they’re being radical, courageous, etc… But, they’re just reacting to the increasing insanity of the left. The right in America has been bereft of good ideas for decades.

                      People like Jarhead Mike are doing the bidding of the cynical elite class by “proving” the insane idea that modern day America is teeming with violent racists.

                      The irony of the identitarians on the lunatic left and right is that they believe that they are creating their own narrative and that expressing it is an act of power. In reality they have succumbed to what Neitzsche dubbed ressentiment.

                      Still, I’m curious what THAT book is as I’d like to see the contortions of logic necessary to make Lysander Spooner, anarchist, radical abolitionist and uncompromising individualist, compatible with the collectivist mindset that seems to permeate the far reaches of the “alt-right”.


                    • Jeremy,

                      You are correct. The true elitists, the ones who want to eilminate personal liberty and mobility, and would have us all shoved into small city apartments where we can be more easily controlled, love it when they see all this divisive hatred amongst the “proles” they would rule. (For the record, those elites are comprised of all ethnic backgrounds, Jew, Gentile, whatever – greed, avarice, and the hunger for power respect no ethnic bounds.)

                      You are also correct that there really is no rational or reasonable way to associate Spooner with any of this nonsense.

                    • Hey Jason,

                      Yep, as Randolph Bourne noted years ago, “War is the Health of the State”. The genius of the modern State is recognizing that promoting a permanent, somewhat low level “culture war” serves the interests of the elite class more effectively than foreign wars (though those help too). To emphasize your point, note the lack of parentheses around “elite”.


          • Yes it is, Mark. Great writing there, too. Ron Unz has developed the best comments section discussion siteware anywhere. If he would sell the siteware to other sites, there could be some excellent discussions at sites that allow comments.

            Disqus is currently ruining discussion everywhere and the Unz software could revolutionize things.

    • [“But to the Deplorables who refuse to go along with the global warming and transgenderism and gay marriage hoaxes, and the gun control and the socialism.”]

      Well,,, Today they’re doing it all,,, the Global warming hoax,,, transgenderism paid by Medicaid,,, Trump has already signed one Gun Control Bill,,, Congress passing Bills to allow illegal voting,,, Congress and the Supreme Court pass/enshrine Asset Forfeiture…Obama Care as ‘constitutional’ and much more making it apparent the USA is no longer the Land of the Free and for sure not Home of the Brave.

      We the Deplorables are going to have to learn a very old lesson… If you want something done right, you’re going to have to do it yourself. Thinking that electing one of their chosen sociopaths/psychopaths to get the job done simply will not bear fruit as should be readily obvious by now.

      It took me 45 years to figure out voting was a sham. If voting worked they wouldn’t allow it. I almost voted last election,,, for Trump. Thank God my wife save me from that embarrassment.

    • ~~ “…Hitler would have had multiple orgasms if the Jews had cell phones in the 1940s. He would have killed all of them instead of only half of them…”

      Check the Jewish world population stats in the Jewish Encyclopedia pre and post WWII….

    • LOL @ a kwan who believes all the joo fables. Even Trump has to believe them publicly to use as a cudgel against the Dems.

      But Trump of all people should know how a witch hunt works, that you’re guilty of something, so you must allow the opposition to keep digging until you and all your associates are found guilty of something. That’ll teach you for challenging the deep state.

    • Thanks for the kind words, 1Unknown!

      On the Tesla rebuild: He is lucky; I suspect others will not be. Of course, it’s also dangerous to smoke while working on a gas tank or leaning over a carburetor… but the lithium-ion battery presents unique and higher-order dangers. If people wish to assume them, so be it – but my advice is: Be sure you know what you are doing before you start working on any EV.

      The other aspect of the linked story that’s interesting and comment-worthy is Tesla’s dodging of right-to-repair laws. I may have to tackle that one!

    • I’ve watched a number of rich rebuilds videos. Given what TM has done to stifle his efforts I don’t understand why he bothers. In the last few months videos have been about his saga of purchasing a used TM product from Telsa Motors itself. He had to order the car online without even photos, put in a large deposit, and then it took months of frustration and runaround to get the vehicle.

      Also it seems that any sort of do-it-yourself effort to keep one of these cars going requires having multiple parts cars stashed away. Time and time again the parts needed to do ordinary repairs are not available and he has to go through the stash of parts he has from various parts cars or go to where he has a parts car stashed away to remove the part.

      Once upon a time the argument for resource intensive to make things that used less energy to operate was that they would pay back over a longer life. But every electric car is some throwaway vehicle that has less chance of chance to making it to even ten years old than an early 70s Chevy Vega in the rust belt. Never mind making it to twice that. Not only in their construction, apparent design life, but deliberately making parts expensive and hard to get but also pricing repairs like an Apple store. Just buy a new one once the warranty is up.

  10. So, let me get this straight: if I get into an accident and I have my laptop with me, they can hook this thing up to it? Even if it was turned off and not in use, they could us this Cellebrite to scan my laptop and download all its contents? Do I understand this correctly?

    • They’ll have fun trying to do that if your laptop runs Linux system using full disk encryption. Particularly since they’ve scared you so much that you’ve forgotten the long, complex pass phrase required to access it.

      • My ANCIENT Dell has Linux on it; it’s the only way a 12 year old laptop originally equipped with XP can still run. And run it does; I have the LXLE distro on it, and she runs better than new! I have a couple of Windows 7 machines too. When support runs out on them, I think I’ll switch THEM to Linux also.

        But yeah, I like the suggestion, hehehe… 🙂

        • I’m writing this on a trash-picked Acer laptop that’s about 15 years old. It runs great with Lubuntu Linux. Performance is good even with full disk encryption, and unlike Microsoft’s encryption there are no back doors for the armed thugs – if they want in they’re going to have to work for it and it’s unlikely that local or state porkers will have the resources to do so.

          • Do you run it off a disc or thumb drive or some other external device? Or did you wipe the original OS and install Linux only? I have a Dell that all of a sudden lacked the very first part to start the OS. I would like to revive it. I have a great old XP HP I accidentally spilled water into. It probably won’t be coming back and it had a great sound system, especially for a laptop.

            • I wiped off the original operating system (Windows XP) and installed Lubuntu direct to the hard drive. It’s an old Intel Centrino-based laptop that someone I knew was going to just discard since it wouldn’t run current Microshit software any more. (I didn’t actually root around in a garbage can for it but that’s where it would have wound up. 🙂 )

              I did pick up some used memory for a few bucks to upgrade it from 1GB to 2GB so it wasn’t totally free, but close enough.

              • Jason, thanks. I have known some people who partition but I don’t see the point beyond XP. I had a Vista laptop and they just fucked it up for no other reason that to not be XP as far as I could tell.

                I’d say 7, which I’m using now is a bit better than Vista. I have a Dell Laptop with 8.1 that used to be XP, got it same as you did……from the SIL. It just all of a sudden lacked the files one day to boot properly. I’ll try to find out how to wipe the 8.1 off and pick up some sort of linux. BTW, 8.1 sucked big time and needed a lot of everything, more hard drive, more ram than XP as I’m sure you know.

                Back when 8.0 first came out I recall a major shitty happening with HP. They shipped out a load and the CIA had a shit fit because it didn’t have their spy hardware installed. I think they got the computers back and “fixed” them. I’m not too cheap to buy a new computer but really I guess I am since dedicated Linux models are expensive. I don’t knowingly purchase anything with dedicated spyware except for a cell phone. I ask myself every day why I don’t simply go back to a flip phone but then every time I get dispatched(or used to), I had to have a cell phone since that was the only way they dispatched.

                I’ve “heard” you can get some workaround for an old bag phone but then there’s probably no difference to a cell phone at that point. I used to get pissed when people would call me and I’d answer the bag phone on speaker phone. They’d always complain. I’d ask if they didn’t understand shifting gears and turning a corner required both hands. If they said another negative word I’d punch off. Now bug me asshole.

                • It’s pretty easy to install Linux, most of the major distributions have a graphical automatic installer. There’s plenty of info out there on how to do it.

                  If you want a PC that lacks the spy hardware found in modern systems probably the most modern CPU you’d want is something like a Centrino or Core2 Duo. When the Core i3, i5, etc. were released that’s when Intel started including the “Management Engine” which is a separate CPU on the motherboard that you have no control over and can access your entire system right under the nose of the operating system. (AMD has their own equivalent.) Bad stuff. Fortunately Linux runs well on older hardware if you choose a lightweight version.

                  Not much can be done with a bag phone at this point. I used to have one, they were analog phones and the analog cell network is long gone, even the 2G digital service is gone.

                  • 8, puppy slacko the easiest linux I’ve found. It works right out of the 1st boot on any former XP, Vista machine I’ve had.

                    You’ll have to websearch it because the retarded siteware here won’t let me post a link despite the fact that I’m logged in.

                    Better yet, ask eric for my email address or ask him to send me yours. I’ll get your mailing address and send you a live disc of the version I use.

                    • Sounds good. Thanks Ed. That Dell was doing fine, shut it off and it wouldn’t play. I hated the 8.1 but rather it hadn’t stopped. I was about to order that PC Fix thing but would rather just use Linux anything…..which is what I think that “fix” is. I’ll let eric know but I have the same email address as always.

                    • 8, as I said several times before, I don’t have your email address. I lost my contacts list when I changed email providers.

                      Just do a websearch for puppy slacko. The developer maintains a site where you can download the latest version (it’s only about 300 megs) and burn it to disc.

                    • Ed, I sometimes went a long stretch not reading mail while away from home and don’t remember things I should. We just had months go by without Internet except for my phone which somehow doesn’t want to play with Yahoo mail. They like to change stuff “to simplify things” or some such other and really screw it up. I’m going the VPN route now we have high speed Internet.

                      I’ll shoot you an email tomorrow when I’m back at the computer.

        • Hi fellow encrypted linux distro users. I’ve used Ubuntu and Trisquel. I went from Vista to linux because Win 8 blows and so does Win 10. Good luck offy-cer getting my data off…

          • My ex-roomie had an HP 10 and I had an HP XP. He’s nearly cry cause the 10 was so difficult and say “I wish I had my old XP”. There was nothing intuitive about 10 I could find.

  11. Someone needs to design a ‘tazer case’ backpack battery for phones. One with a built in ‘malfunction’.

    “Sure officer, here is my phone”. ZOT!

  12. They are control freaks. Safety is a pretense they use to gain power and it seems to be working. They will continue to use it until enough people say no. How likely is that to happen?


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