If You’ve Been Thinking About Buying an EV . . .

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You may be thinking about buying an electric vehicle. You may want to think twice. Or rather you may want to know about some things they’re not telling you about electric vehicles. Much the same as they didn’t tell you some important things about the “vaccines” – which I always put in air-fingers quotation marks nowadays, to emphasize the greasy way the definition of “vaccines” has been changed to include drugs that do not immunize the person who took them – formerly the quality that defined a vaccine.

In both cases, people made the mistake of just-trusting the self-interested parties pushing the items in question. If you’ve learned anything from this, it is not just-trust what you are just told about anything.

Here are some things about electric cars they aren’t telling you:

  1. The thing that makes an electric car the least bit practical for most people – “fast” charging, which enables the vehicle to be usable again in less than several hours – is something that accelerates the demise of the electric car’s battery pack. You have probably not been told this fact because it might make you not want to buy an EV. Just the same as if you’d been told the “vaccine” would not  immunize you, it’s likely most of you wouldn’t have taken it. Which is why they didn’t tell you – about either.
  2. You cannot instill more than a little charge – enough to travel not very far – at home. And even then, it will still take a couple of hours, at the least. Which means you’ll need to find (and drive to) a “fast” charger to be able to drive any significant difference in less than a couple of hours – which means hard-using your battery pack, likely shortening its useful service life. These are physical facts – as in chemistry facts – that are openly described in the owner’s manual of some EVs. But it isn’t well-known because it’s not publicized. Kind of like the way “vaccine” manufacturers didn’t publicize the risks of developing heart trouble if you took their drugs.
  3. Electrical car “mileage” is advertised opaquely and deceptively. When you go shopping for a non-electric car, it will tell you in literal black and white the mileage you can expect – and which the manufacturer of the vehicle can be (and has been) sued over if it turns out to be grossly inaccurate. The window sticker will state (as an example) 27 city/38 highway – and that is almost always how far the vehicle actually does go on a gallon of gas. But electric vehicles advertise “MPGe” – usually in the range of 80-100 “MPGe” or even higher. The deceptive implication being the vehicle can be driven the per-gallon-equivalent on a “gallon” of electricity. This is grossly misleading. First, most EVs go less than 300 miles on a full charge. Second, this advertised range on a full charge can and does vary hugely – by as much as 50 percent in the negative and never anything comparable in the other direction – according to factors such as temperature, load (in the case of electric trucks) and use of accessories. Finally, because of the greasy conflation itself. People are used to inferring that “35 MPG” means 35 miles-per-gallon. They therefore may assume that “100 MPGe” means the EV will go that far on very little electricity. About three times less – which would be how far a non-electric car that averages 30 MPG goes on one gallon of gas. In fact, it takes about the same – at least in terms of what it costs. A gallon of gas costs about $3.35 nationally. And so does the equivalent in electricity – in terms of the energy needed to travel the same distance. You can read more about that, here.
  4. You have probably read all about how EVs save you money via eliminating such things as tune-ups and oil/filter changes. Perfectly true. What you have probably not read about is that you’ll be spending more on tires for your electric vehicle, if you decide to buy one. Because EV are much heavier than non-electric cars and because of how much power most EVs put down – which they do tell you all about. What they don’t tell you is that all that weight – and all that power – shorten tire life by about 20 percent, which is a big deal when you understand it means you’ll be buying a new set of tires 20 percent sooner. Having to buy a new set of tires that much more often would have paid for a lot of oil and filter changes.
  5. You will discover that certain accessories, such as the AC/defroster and heater, do not work as well in an EV as they do in the non-EVs you are used to. At least not when you really need them to. As for example when it is very cold outside – and the windshield is icing up (and so are you). It takes a lot of  . . . electricity to generate the heat equivalent of “hot” in a non-electric car, which generates the heat without cost, in terms of ay effect on range. But range ebbs when it’s cold – even if the heater/defroster aren’t on. The aded load of heating the car’s cabin – and de-icing the windshield – ebbs it further. Thus, the EV’s systems are designed to minimize power consumption of accessories such as the cabin heater/defroster. This can make for a chilly (and hard to see where you’re going) drive. But it does increase the chances you’ll make it where you’re headed. . . . If you like what you’ve found here please consider supporting EPautos. 

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33 COMMENTS

  1. Amazon has deployed some of their Rivian electric vans in my neighborhood. Though they seem to vanish when it gets under 35 degrees and I see the ram promaster and mercedes sprinter vans again. I wonder if they will vanish when its 80+ too. I guess we will see next summer. But I won’t be surprised if they can’t take the heat either.

  2. #6. If you are the sort of person who likes to buy your car outright and keep it for 5, 10, or even 15 years, you can’t do that with an EV.

    For starters, they cost an arm, a leg, and your first born to buy. There are some people who can cut a check for $25,000 or even $30,000, so they can buy an average new or gently used IC vehicle for cash. There are a lot fewer people who can do that for $50,000 or $70,000. That means making car payments for the next 4, 5, 6, 7 years or longer.

    Speaking of payments, by the time you’re done making payments, it’s likely your EV is nearly worthless because for one thing, the battery is pretty degraded, and second, the computer hardware and software might no longer be supported.

    That means you’ll probably have to lease your EV…and the one after that, and so on. And that means ALWAYS having a car payment. And on top of that, you’ll be restricted by the terms and conditions of said lease. Put more than your share of miles on it? Pay up! Don’t like your car and want to turn it in before the lease is up? Pay up! You get the idea.

    #7. Even if you are somehow lucky enough to pay cash for your EV and own it outright, your EV is on a leash—an electronic leash. EVs are really, really easy to control “over the wire.” It’s already a thing—During California’s heat waves and brownouts, EVs restricted their charges, and options on some EV Beemers are only available by subscription. If The Powers That Be don’t want you driving for whatever reason, or driving whenever or wherever they don’t want you to, they can brick your EV without warning, let alone consent.

  3. Mercedes EV with a 90 kwh battery normal range/mpg and flat out on freeway range/mpg….

    Normal driving range/mpg……..

    In ideal conditions a mercerdes EV used 49.6 kwh per 100 miles = 1.42 gallons of gas at the wall plug = reality 5.7 gallons of fuel burnt at the power plant to make the electricity = 17.5 mpg…
    the Mercedes EV gets 17 mpg in the real world driving…

    so range = about 200 miles, but you can only use 60% of battery capacity so range = 120 miles

    Flat out on the freeway driving range/mpg…

    under ideal conditions …..but at top speed ……a mercedes EV used 90 kwh of electricity in 100 miles which = 3 gallons of gas at the wall plug….back at the power station reality = 12 gallons burnt = 8.3 mpg
    the Mercedes EV gets 8.3 mpg in flat out on the freeway driving…

    …….so range = about 100 miles, but you can only use 60% of battery capacity so range = 60 miles

    but what if you go top speed, flat out in very cold weather what would it be?….lol….what if you are towing something?….lol

    Tesla wide open on the race track range….

    On a race track driven at ten tenths a tesla used 80 miles range in 8 miles, a 90% drop in range, driven fast EV’s get very bad fuel economy…….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BSdq-MpPdg&t=113s

    • so range = about 200 miles, but you can only use 60% of battery capacity so range = 120 miles……

      so every 120 miles you have to wait one hour+ in a lineup to get to a charger…then another 2 hours+ to charge…

      If you are travelling or on a business trip….and want to drive 600 miles per day (easy in an ice car)…..if fully charged when you start….you have to stop to recharge four times @ 3 hours per stop that is an extra 12 hours….600 miles @ 60 mph = 10 hours plus an extra 12 hours charging = 22 hours…so no time to sleep….in an ice car it would only take 10 hours to go 600 miles…in a diesel ice car…no stops to fill……

      22 hours…on a business trip there would be zero time for business left, or to sleep…..

      or half the time the charger is broken and if your battery is near dead you have a very expensive towing bill…if you find a charger that actually works you pay more for the electricity then it costs for gas for an ice powered car…..so what is the point?….lol

  4. The MPGe thing really annoys me, since it’s basically meaningless. The only thing anyone wants to know, and the only thing anyone really talks about with an EV is the highway range at a reasonable speed of about 70-75mph.
    This is of course, never advertised anywhere,

    • The EV’s they are selling are all 4000 lb to 10,000 lb whales …..(The Hummer 10,000 lb), which require 1000 lb to 3000 lb batteries which require enormous amounts of energy to recharge.

      There is no way to recharge these batteriers other then getting huge amounts of electricity from the grid, a little solar panel won’t do it…lol…no grid access, it won’t move.

      The electric cars they should have built would be very small and light, good for around town, very inexpensive, powered by 100% green lead acid batteries, easy to recharge, but then you would be independent, …….not good.

      People should boycott all big manufacturers receiving ESG cash to push EV’s, don’t give them one cent.

      If you want an EV buy one of these only, or build your own….this could be cheap wheels when ice cars are banned….

      bribed with ESG money, automakers are building, pushing electric vehicles,

      several individuals are using their skills to create low-cost electric rides.

      DIY electric car runs 200 miles on old lead-acid batteries, which are 100% green…..

      David Cloud is one such individual who has spent $3,000.00 in converting a 1997 Geo Metro to run on an electric engine fueled by old lead acid batteries. A new EV is at least $50,000.00 or more.

      The vehicle is powered by 8” ADC motors that are included on each rear wheel and are powered by old 12V lead-acid batteries. The vehicle has a top speed of 72mph and can hit 60mph in 18 seconds, with a range of about 200 miles.

      Someone should build these and sell them, there is a market for them, the new EV’s are $50,000 +

      Lead acid batteries are 100% recycled so are green. Lead acid can be traded in for reconditioned ones for $60.00 and come with a warranty. Twelve of them cost $720.00

      https://ecofriend.com/diy-electric-car-runs-200-miles-on-old-lead-acid-batteries.html

  5. Re: 100 mpg EV’s…..

    EV pushers lie 24/7 about this quoting fuel economy at the wall plug, they think electricity comes to the wall plug magically, they are insane…lol….

    What test drivers are actually getting driving in the real world driving EV’s is they are getting 2.4 miles of range for every kwh

    They are using 41.66 kwh to go 100 miles. (.4166 kwh per mile) = 83 mpg
    ATTENTION: 83 mpg is based on electricity just coming out of a wall plug,
    in reality 4.80 gallons of fuel or 43 lb of coal were burnt to generate the electricity in the power station = 20.8 mpg).
    So to go 100 miles the EV burns 43 lb of coal

    So to end up with 41.66 kwh of electricity which is equivalent to 1.20 gallons of gas to push the EV 100 miles down the road 4.80 gallons of fuel or 43 lb of coal were burnt to generate the electricity in the power station, remember net 25% efficiency.

    100 miles using 4.80 gallons = 20.8 mpg,

    the average EV is getting 20.8 mpg….the EV Hummer gets 10 mpg….NOTE: in ideal conditions only…..which is 10% of the time?…

    NOTE:
    Thermal efficiency of power plants using coal, petroleum, natural gas or nuclear fuel and converting it to electricity are around 33% efficiency, natural gas is around 40%. Then there is average 6% loss in transmission, then there is a 5% loss in the charger, another 5% loss in the inverter, the electric motor is 90% efficient so another 10% loss before turning the electricity into mechanical power at the wheels.

    33% – 6% – 5% – 5% – 10% = 25% efficiency for EV’s. In very cold weather EV’s are 12% efficient

    More losses…lol………An EV just sitting loses:
    tesla says a daily 3%-5% stationary range consumption.” (just parked)
    So Tesla says it’s normal to fully discharge itself in under 3 weeks. Keep this in mind when parking it somewhere 90kwh @ $0.40 per kwh = another $36.00 per week loss just parked…lol…..
    so it is worse then 20.8 mpg….

  6. Twenty years ago I used to make the case for electric vehicles:

    Cheaper to build, because the EV electric motor replaces the ICE, gear box, drive shafts, U-joints, etc.

    Doesn’t need oil changes.

    Doesn’t leak oil on the pavement.

    Can be charged from home solar panels. It is possible to make your own electricity, but not so easy to make gasoline, which can not be stored for long periods.

    Lasts a long time, only 1 moving part, the near frictionless brush free motor.

    Quiet.

    Recharges when braking.

    The limiting factor 20 years ago was lightweight and powerful batteries.

    ————

    But when Elon built his pricey Tesla 6,000 lb beasts, I was quite dismayed. Why, oh why, did the electric car have to be so damn expensive and heavy?

    I do see Mitsubishi MiEv’s around town. More like I envisioned 20 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIEV

    MiEV uses a traction motor (no drive shaft)

    “MIEV motors are constructed using an in-wheel motor rotor, an in-wheel motor stator, a rotor bracket, stator bracket and inverter directly behind the brakes. The batteries can be charged from a standard 15 A/200 V car charger in seven hours and with a three-phase electric power charged in 25 minutes (for up to 80 percent of full capacity).”

    https://www.caranddriver.com/mitsubishi/i-miev/specs

    Base Curb Weight 2579 lbs

    • Depreciation is the biggest cost in a car (unless it is a collectable car like an old air cooled 911)

      Electric cars depreciate over two times faster than their internal combustion engine counterparts, a serious black mark when it comes to tallying up your actual yearly cost to run your vehicle!

      Study: EVs Cost More to Repair, Less to Maintain

      Service Advantage Goes to Gas

      Service visits – those that involve diagnosing and repairing a problem – were a different story.

      During the first three months of ownership, EVs were 2.3 times as expensive to service as gasoline-powered cars. At the 12-month mark, repair costs were about 1.6 times what owners of gas-powered cars paid.
      It’s Not Parts. It’s Labor

      Why the extra expense?

      Because EV problems took longer to diagnose and repair. Technicians spent 1.5 times as many hours working on EVs as they did on gasoline-powered cars. And those technicians cost more, to begin with. Working on EVs requires additional certifications most mechanics don’t have. Those that do charge about 1.3 times the average hourly rate.

      https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-evs-cost-more-to-repair-less-to-maintain/

      Repairing Ev’s is a big problem now, nobody knows how to fix them, they are very dangerous to work on because of the very high voltage (lots of places won’t work on them for that reason), they are very complex compared to an internal combustion engine, they are new technology so people don’t understand them, so very difficult to diagnose. If you break down in L.A. there probably will be a repair place that can fix your EV, if you are in a small town somewhere good luck getting it fixed.

      The crashed EV’s now….even in minor accidents …..are being written off…too expensive and dangerous to fix…with the lithium fire bomb batteries….

      They say now these EV batteries last about 7 years…lol….the loan terms now are 96 months…so the last year it is a lawn ornament with zero residual value…..

      There is an additional cost for the EV owner: the tesla $22,000 battery is used up, worn out in 100,000 miles. this works out to $22.00 per 100 miles it is costing you for the battery. So the EV owner has to pay another $22.00 per 100 miles to pay for the battery, the ice car owner doesn’t have that extra cost.

      EV battery replacement costs…….

      VW e-Golf Battery Replacement Cost
      The cost of a replacement battery for a 2017 to 2018 VW e-Golf is said to be $23,442.91 by Pignataro VW in August 2021.

      the tesla battery which costs $22,000 is used up, worn out in 100,000 miles. this works out to $22.00 per 100 miles it is costing you for the battery.
      The tesla battery weighs up to 1800 lb,

      the hummer battery is 3000 lb, will it cost $30,000+ ….lol

      Mach-E battery at $25,319

      Chevy Volt battery replacement cost $26,000

      Ford F150 EV pickup battery cost…..$35,960

      plus there is a $4500 recycling fee some say….lol

      Each EV will use multiple batteries……

      Remember that to get the same level of longevity that petrol and diesel cars an EV will go through three battery packs which is hell of a large carbon footprint, and very expensive the tesla battery is $22,000, it costs you $22.00 per 100 miles just for the battery.

      3 batteries = $66,000, this makes ice cars look very, very cheap to own/run….haha
      3 Ford F150 EV pickup batteries cost……$107,880

      now you know why very few of the taxis are EV’s, charging times, higher fuel costs and very expensive battery replacement, hybrids or diesels are far better.

  7. ‘Electrical car “mileage” is advertised opaquely and deceptively.’ — eric

    MPGe, as calculated by the EPA, is a bald-faced fraud.

    For internal combustion vehicles, miles per gallon takes into account the roughly 35% thermodynamic efficiency of burning fuel in the engine to produce shaft power. But ‘MPGe’ does not — it disregards the unavoidable thermodynamic efficiency losses of the power plant which delivered those kilowatt-hours to your EeeVee battery:

    ‘When we measure mpg on a traditional car, the efficiency takes a big hit due to the conversion efficiencies and heat losses in combustion. The same thing happens when we generate electricity, but the electric car in this measurement is not being saddled with these losses, even though we know they still occur in the system.’

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenmeyer/2010/11/24/the-epas-electric-vehicle-mileage-fraud/?sh=4358587829de

    Adjust MPGe for the roughly 35-40% efficiency of the thermal power plant which delivered those kilowatt-hours: that is, multiply it by 0.35 or 0.40, then compare it to ICE miles per gallon.

    AND … oops! … they are roughly comparable.

    EeeVees don’t save jack shit compared to hydrocarbon-fueled vehicles. And you can take that to the bank.

    • Thanks. And the EPA also downgraded older cars mpg ratings, and I think it was due to the degradation of the heat value of gasoline – when the added 10% ethanol, the BTU’s/gallon went down, and thus the mpg went down. Like candy bars, we are paying more for less.

  8. Despite what we’ve been told ad nauseum for years, recently published data from NOAA shows NO global warming for the past 8 years. And yet, tyrannical governments are trying to FORCE the masses into EVs and close down traditional farms to “Saaaaaaaaaave the planet”. People who’ve fallen for the Climate change Narrative have become useful idiots for the globalist technocrats of the world…….

    https://www.technocracy.news/its-official-no-global-warming-for-eight-years/

  9. I stopped reading when I saw the word “vaccine”. That’s probably where anyone reading the article thinking about getting an EV would stop as well.

    EV people are bandwagon people. It’s probably not a good idea to remind them they already made a foolish mistake while you warn them not to make another.

    • Hi J,

      I drew the parallel because I think it makes the point about due diligence – and the increased necessity for practicing it. The people who get upset when facts about the “vaccines” they tool are mentioned are fools. They ought to be grateful that other people are trying to warn them about making a similar mistake again.

  10. There’s no time to wait! If we don’t change our wicked ways soon mother Gia will be destroyed. God is dead is what Nietzsche said, at least our god. I say we start fighting back and kill their god too.

    • RK,

      That almost sounds like those who said that people who didn’t take the COVID “vaccine” were gonna DIE from the ‘Rona. However, over time, it has been the OPPOSITE of what we were told.

  11. “If You’ve Been Thinking About Buying an EV . . .”
    No one who “thinks” is stupid enough to buy an EV. Unless they have money to burn. Not a big market.
    “If you’ve learned anything from this, it is not just-trust what you are just told about anything.”
    Words of wisdom from my late father. “Don’t believe anything you hear, and only half what you see. Find out the truth”.

    • True, and in my town I see lots of older leftists women, driving Tesla’s, as a sign of wealth and virtue signalling. I am not impressed, I say under my breath, that person has more money than sense.

      When the battery replacement comes due, they can put the Loser hand signal over their forehead.

  12. Not only do EV tires have to be replaced more often, but the tires themselves are more expensive. I believe it’s due to the tire attributes (higher load rating, stiffer sidewall, wider, higher speed rating, etc.)

      • In Norway Tesla owners went on hunger strike to protest the fact that their EV had to sit for months waiting for parts to fix it….lol

        nobody can fix them, too dangerous to work on, can’t get parts, after a minor accident they aren’t worth fixing, too complicated to diagnose a problem,

    • Tire costs
      The tires on EVs tend to wear out faster due to the additional weight and extra torque that hits the road. Plus, EV tires typically have less tread to improve range and decrease noise, they need special more expensive HL rated tires.

      Tesla tire size 235 35 20 $391.00
      VW Golf tire size 225 45 R17 $119.00

      In 100,000 miles if the tesla needs 4 replacement sets = $391.00 x 16 tires = $6256.00 = $0.06 per mile

      In 100,000 miles if the VW Golf needs 2 replacement sets = $119.00 x 8 tires = $952.00 = $0.01 per mile

  13. Some Climate change zealot group is running an ad campaign for Oregon’s new decree regarding EVs, claiming that by 2035, vehicles sold in the state will be “Clean energy vehicles”. Given that EVs are in NO way “clean” compared to regular vehicles, someone should report them for “misinformation”, but then on the other hand, Oregon government AND the federal government is spreading their OWN mis/ disinformation about EVs, COVID jabs, and other things.

  14. Eric,

    As knowledge of the fact that EVs aren’t ready for prime time gets out and kills sales, do you think that’ll buy time for ICEVs? Even in CA (mainly rural areas), EVs won’t be able to take place of ICEVs. Do you see the possibility of a backlash or anything that could derail the push to EVs?

  15. ‘you may want to know about some things they’re not telling you about electric vehicles’ — eric

    Meanwhile, here’s what they ARE telling you about EeeVees:

    ‘The next time the power failed, Nate Graham was prepared. He had a power strip and a $150 inverter hooked up to his new Chevy Bolt. The Bolt’s battery powered his refrigerator, lights and other crucial devices with ease.

    ‘As the rest of his neighborhood outside Albuquerque languished in darkness, Graham’s family life continued virtually unchanged. “It was a complete game changer making power outages a nonissue,” says Graham.

    ‘Graham is a preview of what some automakers are now promising anyone with an EV: An enormous home battery on wheels that can reverse the flow of electricity to power the entire home through the main electric panel.’

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/the-house-and-car-will-merge-and-change-how-we-power-our-lives/ar-AA17cxrX

    So easy! So cheap!

    Get in on the ground floor, folks … while supplies last! 🙂

    • OMG JimH, they make it all sound so appealing. The premice of the article is ‘IF you have solar panels, and you wanted/needed batteries at $15K +/- (to get any potential use out of said solar), now you can just use your EV. Win-Win…………………..
      Zero mention of how much solar cost to install, etc…..
      Zero mention of how great the Ford EV to house charging thing costs. Etc….
      What a joke. I feel a little sorry for people that will get snookered into all of this propaganda.

    • Hi Jim,
      That’s all well and good until you need that EV to get out of Dodge, but then you aren’t going anywhere since the battery will be dead.

  16. Electric vehicles in their present state are “not ready for prime time” and are being “pushed” on an unsuspecting, largely unknowledgeable, gullible public by insane government edict.

    From a scientific and technical standpoint, today’s electric vehicles are “playthings for the rich”.

    From a political standpoint, the elites HATE the masses as the “elites” HATE the fact that today’s ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles allow the masses (us) to go where they (we) want, when they (we) want at any time with few, if little restrictions. Unrestricted mobility for the masses is something that the elites HATE. It’s about CONTROL. It’s ALWAYS about CONTROL.

    Let’s look at the technical side of electric vehicles vs. ICE vehicles. Range is a large factor in the desirability of ICE vehicles vs. today’s electric vehicles. One can fuel up an ICE vehicle in approximately five minutes and be on his way.

    Not so for electric vehicles. Quite often electric vehicle charging stations are few and far between, which contributes to “range anxiety”. The situation will improve as time goes on, but in today’s world, electric vehicles are impractical. For short hops and city driving, electric vehicles can be an ideal solution, but for extended “road trips” forget it.

    Electric vehicle batteries lose power even when the vehicle is not in use. Add to that, cold weather and the use of accessories (air conditioning, lights, etc) will reduce range considerably. Electric vehicles may be somewhat suitable for a California climate, but will fail in sub-zero Michigan winter snow and ice.

    Batteries can be charged only to 80% of full capacity as overcharging will reduce battery life considerably. “Fast charging” is also detrimental to battery life. It’s all about time and convenience vs. battery life.

    Gasoline and diesel fuel has an large energy content (density) in a small package, something that, in their present stages of development, electrical vehicles cannot achieve.

    Let’s make a comparison…gasoline contains approximately 33.7 kwh per gallon. A gallon of gasoline weighs approximately 6.1 lbs. The typical ICE vehicle can hold about 15 gallons of gasoline with a weight of approximately 90 lbs. total, with a total energy content of approximately 500 kwh.

    Keep in mind that high-end electric vehicles have an energy capacity of approximately 120 kwh. This is equal to less than four gallons of gasoline. The typical electric vehicle has a 75 kwh battery pack, equivalent to approximately 2 ½ gallons of gasoline.

    Keep in mind that the battery pack weight is well over 2000 lbs (1 ton) and still has a limited energy capacity compared to gasoline. The typical electric vehicles weighs approximately 2 ½ tons (5000 lbs.), having to haul around a heavy battery pack. This also contributes to “wear and tear” on other automotive systems such as brakes and tires. (Yes, I am aware that regenerative braking exists and is a part of electric vehicle technology).

    From an environmental standpoint, lithium is nasty stuff, reacts with water violently and is much more volatile than gasoline. Electric vehicle accidents are much more hazardous than those of ICE vehicles. Water cannot be used to put out a lithium battery pack fire.

    Yes, gasoline is dangerous, but we have learned to control it and live with it for over 100 years successfully.

    Oil, being abiotic, and NOT a “fossil fuel” is a renewable resource, constantly being created by yet-unknown process within the earth.

    There may come a time with battery technology “breakthroughs” but just not now.

    Governments should never “push” unproven technologies.

    • A thousand up votes for Abiotic Oil.

      “SCIENCE believes that oil and natural gas are formed by organisms decomposing. How that process originated is the subject of the abiotic oil theory. At some point, inorganic matter had to be the foundation of the organic matter that would eventually create the fossil fuels”

      And now for Saturn’s Moon Titan which has lakes of hydrocarbons and rains hydrocarbons!

      Saturn’s smoggy moon Titan has hundreds of times more natural gas and other liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, SCIENTISTS said today.

      Apparently Dino had space travel.

      • Far from being “fossil fuel”, hydrocarbons are not only plentiful but are being created by yet-unknown processes deep within the earth.
        The term “fossil fuel” was coined in the 1950s when little was known about the processes by which oil is produced. Oil is “abiotic” in nature, as even depleted oil wells are “filling back up” from deep below the earth’s surface.
        Oil interests are drilling wells at 5,000 feet, 10,000 feet, and 15,000 feet and deeper, and coming up with oil deposits way below the layers and levels where “fossils” were known to exist.
        As Russia gained much expertise in deep-well drilling and coming up with oil deposits far deeper than that of the level of “fossils”, abiotic oil at extreme depths was actually a Russian “state secret” for a long time.
        Fossil material found in hydrocarbons are a result of these hydrocarbons migrating through fossil layers and are not a creation of fossils.
        At the rate oil is being pumped out of the ground, there is not enough fossil material to account for the amount of oil harvested.
        Not only that, but there are planetary bodies in which hydrocarbons are naturally occurring (without fossils).
        “Peak oil” and “fossil fuels” are discredited concepts that environmentalists and others are latching on to, in order to display their hatred of oil being a renewable resource as well as to push prices up.
        Follow the money.

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