What follows hasn’t got anything to do with cars except in principle. That principle being the diminishing freedom we’re allowed to exercise when it comes to choosing what we consider to be right for us – as well as our pets.
It used to be the case that you just had them, if you wanted to. Now – in many areas – you are required to register them, just as you are required to do when you get a vehicle. Both require tags – issued by the government – denoting who is the real owner of them. Just the same as cows are “registered” by the ear tags they display. Naturally, the tags are not free – because neither are you. Or what really aren’t your pets, either. This brings up the matter of drug pushing.
It is not called that, of course. It is only called that when the government wishes to derogate the non-coercive offering and purchasing of substances it has decreed to be illegal to offer and purchase non-coercively, most infamously marijuana. Though the government has lightened up a little with regard to that, it has done so only because it has recognized there’s more money to be made from taxing it than putting people in jail for non-coercively offering and purchasing it. Meanwhile, people who non-coercively offer other drugs not yet legalized are styled “pushers,” which is astoundingly effronterous given no one is pushed to buy these drugs.
Veterinarians, on the other hand, do push drugs – just the same as human medicos have been doing. Both on account of the pushing of the government, which pushes the human and animal doctors to push them on their patients.
Have you tried buying flea and tick repellent from a vet lately? The stuff that actually works being unavailable over-the-counter, very much of a piece with the cough syrup that works only being available if you beg the pharmacist to let you buy some and only after you have shown ID and been duly catalogued into the system. In our area – and perhaps yours as well – the vet will not sell you the flea and tick repellent unless you first bring your cat or dog in for a “wellness exam,” which of course isn’t free, either. This exam is similar to the state “safety” inspection grift. There is nothing wrong with your vehicle – or animal – but the state (and) vet require the “inspection,” for the same reason you are told you “owe” what are styled “your” taxes.
Because there’s money – and control – in it.
It does not end there. The next thing, when you bring the cat or dog in for inspection, is a question: Has your pet been vaccinated? If not, the vet will demand that you agree to having your cat or dog vaccinated – because the government requires it. If you do not agree, then the vet will refuse to treat your pet. See how that works? The vet may not like this business but is made to be the accomplice/enforcer of the government. Just as teenage kids were used to enforce “mask” requirements at the doors of stores. Here’s your “mask,” they said.
It does not matter whether your pet needs to be vaccinated anymore than it mattered that a person who wasn’t sick didn’t need to wear a “mask.” I tried to make this argument. Unsuccessfully. The vet refused to issue flea/tick repellent unless we brought the cat in for an “wellness exam.” Our year-old cat that is quite well, just as my truck’s brakes are in good working order and its tires aren’t bald. I do not require an inspection to tell me they are – in either case. But it’s worse in this case, because while it is important that a vehicle’s brakes be in good working order and its tires not bald, a rabies vaccination is worse than unimportant for an animal that stands essentially no chance of catching this sickness because it never goes outdoors. 
But how about the chance of catching cancer from the drugs being pushed?
An indoor cat might, it is true, get out. And a rabid bat or mouse might get in. But this is a risk on par with that of a healthy person dying from the cold marketed as “COVID.” One so low, in other words, that it is not worth the risk of the vaccination. This being even greater, probably, than the now-known risks of being injected with the “COVID” vaccines because there are even fewer safeguards in place – and no liability whatsoever – when it comes to the drugs that are pushed on animals.
That’s why we said no to the pusher, who is incidentally a vet. Just as human doctors have become pushers of drugs, too. It is an ugly thing but a no less true thing for being so. It says something ugly about what’s become of this country.
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[…] Guest Post by Eric Peters […]
It’s well over a year since I had my cats to the vet. They’re both indoor cats who have no desire to go outside; the closest they want to get is an open window on a nice day. They’re both healthy, since they do zoomies at all hours of the day and night… 🙂
My observation is that animal doctors receive the same declining quality of education that human doctors do. The proliferation of dependence on diagnostic tests, usually expensive and mostly worthless, in lieu of actual diagnostic skills has entered the realm of veterinary medicine just like human medicine with similar results–lower quality of care and higher costs. The best thing you can do for your pets is to insure they consume healthy food, which actually is a challenge these days.
Now compared to a lot of you folks I am an old fart. One advantage of being such is that I remember when medical care for humans as well as for animals was actually effective and cheap. I’d rather have one old cantankerous GP from the fifties than fifty young true believers pushing statins, vaccines and flouride. My childhood doctor basically had the attitude that the individual was responsible for his/her own health, as ultimately is the case. There were very few fat people, and virtually no kids were fat. If you had a pet as a young person, you were totally responsible for its care and feeding. That was a fantastic learning opportunity. In my observation, personal responsibility for one’s actions has no traction now…..mind you, this comes from the parties that hold power over young people…..I have met many young people who are absolutely awesome, but propaganda is effective and social media and cell phones represent some of the most dangerous tools thereof….my this rant took a bizarre turn….on the plus side, we actually had some sunshine today.
They want your children and pets sick/and /or dead, just like you. Look what they did to the bugs, the bees, the birds. Now you’re next. Jew World Order= Hell on Earth.
Before adopting, we were foster parents. County “required” our indoor cats to be vaccinated but they never followed up on it. Same as the requirement for ammo to be stored separately from weapons. Fast forward a few years, and the new lady decides she wants to crack down on all the little items. We let our license lapse rather than deal with her invasive saaaafety inspections. Their loss. We still got a couple great kids out of the system so I feel like I did my part.
An AVETS clinic policy in Pittsburgh required us to vaccinate our domestic rabbit before euthanization…..My wife and I told AVETS to go to hell, and found an independent veterinarian…
After this whole Plandemic experience B.S., I don’t understand why Anyone would trust a person in a white robe with a stethoscope carrying a syringe & walking towards you, your child, or your pet.
‘natural flea and tick treatment for dogs and cats from the homestead’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIYZSFbPEo
Anybody here take notice that Trump is looking haggard, tired, out of touch, completely confused?
It’s a lot of pressure.
I don’t think Trump is up to the task.
Just a hunch, have to be brutally frank these days.
One name: Atticus Finch.
Shot a rabid dog, left it in the middle of the street and warned everybody to not get near it.
Bats carries rabies, skunks carry rabies, the pesky raccoons do too. 117 skunks out of 119 tested positive for rabies virus back around 1995. Skunks roaming during the day are suspected of rabies infection.
A skunk within 20 feet will deeply affect your olfactory. A skunk-sprayed dog will reek.
A woman on a nearby farm had a cat that became infected with rabies. The owner had to have rabies shots.
Not a huge problem among animal populations, however, rabies exist. Rabid Jews? Maybe.
The planet has some bad stuff.
Yeesh, drumphish, lately, you seem like such a shill for the empire.
“Sometimes in the middle of a virus existence debate, someone blurts out, “What about rabies?””
https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/viruses-unplugged/what-about-rabies/
Slightly related- Eric I saw your reply, you’re welcome, and read your comments and was in a somewhat similar situation and paying rising $1200 a year property taxes on 10 acres out in the country in Florida but still within reach of the county tax monkeys.
The property values were rising like crazy and I had to move for other reasons so first I found my place up here, then sold my Florida place from here on forsalebyowner.com over the next year for a huge profit when the markets were high in Florida. $47k I paid for the 10 acres, put improvements and a decent mobile-home on it, lived there 10 years and sold it for $300k. Florida is getting crowded but with beach and ocean and rivers and lakes and pretty girls it sure is nice!
My place out in the country now that I told you about, I found on Craigslist looking in the outskirts you know like 50-60 miles away from things. Back then 10 private wooded acres cost you about $25k. Moved a travel trailer with a generator on it and went to work. If you start with something simple and/or old for the “residential tax” part of the assessment, you can rebuild and re-roof and put siding on to make it shine, but it’s still old so they can’t tax the hell out of it. Some neighbors did the opposite and pay $1,000 or more a year property taxes, while my place is super nice with an awesome shop and other outbuildings that are not “residential” appraised so super low property tax. I’ve learned a little more every time I’ve been screwed by gov bs or tax monkeys so just passing this along. See ya
Concerning where a ‘vet’ won’t treat a pet without vaxxxines or even a rabies vaxxxine– There are Veterinary Emergency hospitals and Veterinary Specialty Services that cost more like $80-100 to see a pet, but never had one even ask about vaxxxines that I can remember or if so just say, “all up to date” on everything. The VSS 40 miles from here is open 24/7 and has state of the art equipment. Since pets usually get sick on weekends or holidays I’ve had to go there a few times, and they have excellent surgeons, etc. Also, there are still a few old country doctor vets out here in the country that care more about animals than money.
P.S. Eric- I see your articles are appearing across the internet on many well-respected sites. Good for you man, keep up the good work.
Forgot to mention the ‘State Of’ legalized marijuana a year or two ago so there is a dispensary on every other block and you can grow 18 plants (legally) instead of having a secret grow room for 20 years, and have 2 ounces of smoke on you (legally). Haha
Well, BID has it totally correct. The Dennis person is FULL OF SHIT. It is either a bot or just some lying libtard idiot -either way full of shit and wrong on everything he says. The motherfucker poisons peoples’ beloved pets for money and shits out lies based on his ‘beliefs’ only. FUCK YOU dennis.
NEVER vaxxxinate your PETS! It is the same deadly worthless toxic bullshit they want to pump into you. It does not work and weakens and shortens their lives, and they WILL DIE early of tumors and cancers. (((Their))) PARVO AND BULLSHIT 8-IN-1 VAXXXINE shot gives half the dogs parvo and then they die. NEVER FUCKING EVER GIVE THIS BULLSHIT TO A PUPPY. Rabies? What bullshit. I’ve lived out in the woods for 40 years and never seen a rabid coon. Damn things are here trying to eat dog and cat food every night. Saw one sick with distemper clinging to a tree- once 25 years ago. How about an 18 year old dog never sick in its life and never vaxxxinated with anything? Neither of my Vets has said a word about ‘vaxxxines’ for the past 15 years because they see and know the truth, and probably know they might just get a punch in the mouth.
Don’t use any of these (((creatures))) ORAL flea bullshit on my pets. Use Advantage II on cats and dogs and Frontline on dogs during tick season- sparingly. Also, DE and washing with Dawn dish soap kills fleas. Everything available on Amazon or at Rural King here (vets now only sell the poisonous toxic ‘oral’ flea bullshit, but putting god knows what on their skin isn’t good either but it will stop a flea infestation).
Saw this coming 20 years ago when I saw that they were going to INSTALL a sickening queer illegal-alien negro faggot as ‘president’ WITH an utterly sickening tranny sheboon!!! Holy fuck. Found a nice piece of land 15 miles from a small town with everything needed and larger town 30 miles and a huge city 50 miles away. Very low property taxes ~$250 a year, no inspections, no permits, build anything you want on your land, all private property in a larger private subdivision, no police allowed in unless called, no postal workers or school buses allowed in, ride four-wheelers anytime anywhere, shoot guns anytime anywhere, have all the chickens you want, build hot-rods, raise wolves, have big bonfires and parties, AND GIVE A BIG “FUCK YOU” TO ANYONE WHO DOESN’T LIKE IT!
I’m sure I left a few things out- from here in the SE Ozark Mountains area in SE Missouri (not the ‘State Of Missouri’).
You might like it here, Eric. 🙂
This made me feel good on a day when I need that. Thanks, Bill!
I have never vaccinated my now 19 year old cat who does go outside for about 6 months a year in Quebec. I use a blend of essential oils on her fabric collar which she wears only outside and she has never had a tick or fleas. She just caught and killed the one resident mouse that was in the kitchen when we opened our cottage this May. My other longest living cat, who also never was vaccinated made it to 20 1/2.
That made me happy, Gwyneth!
My Beezy cat is 20 and eating heartily. No “vaccines” for her!
Del Bigtree, host of the online weekly program The Highwire, interviewed a homeopathic veterinarian a year and a half ago regarding pet health and this push for pets to have all sorts of vaccinations (gee, sounds like what many “doctors” do to children from birth to 18 years old), and he made the case that pets DON’T need as many vaccinations as are “recommended”….
https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/pet-health-the-holistic-way/
We do the bare minimum with our dog, and yes mostly for compliance. One thing that frustrates me greatly is dosage. We have a small dog now, but they don’t adjust dosage for the size of the dog. Insanity.
Recently we had to get a bordetella vax for the place we board her. She had a reaction to it and was sick for a week. I will be doing things differently next time.
RE: “We do the bare minimum […] mostly for compliance.”
Why are you being a tool? A puppet? A bullied child?
“As a slave, we do the bare minimum,”?
Yeesh, “mostly for compliance”? …Sickening.
“Recently we had to get a bordetella vax for the place we board her.”
Key phrase, “had to”.
No, you didn’t have to, you caved & obeyed. It was, convenience.
“I will be doing things differently next time.”
We all make mistakes.
That we learn from them, is what separates.
Compliance is violence.
Good ole scam USA.
Getting almost impossible to make a good living so scamming your fellow citizens is about all that’s left. $350 for what should be no longer than a 10 minute looksee or better yet,,, none at all.
Medicare is even better. Walking into the office of the doctor I use. He would always greet me with “Hi! How are ya?” Of course I’d reply,,, “Fine, thank you”. Last couple of billings had a wellness check for $150. Now, even courtesy costs.
Found out this was a freebie to help the doctors bottom line. I’m stuck with it as I have to see him a least once a year for a prescription. A few years ago I could call and get the script renewed. No charge! Yep,,, good ole scam USA strikes again, again and again.
I swear. If those inbred “Law Makers” passed a law requiring people to jump off the nearest 10,000 foot cliff,,, Americans would be killing each other to be first in line.
The Medicare wellness scam. I go once a year and then once on Medicare they tried scheduling a second visit for Medicare Wellness. Nope. Figure it out in one visit I’m not going twice. Boy were they miffed.
“But it’s freeee!” “No, it’s not, plus you’re wasting my time AND tying up an appointment slot for someone that really needs it.” What a system.
You seem like a smart guy, Ken.
This is dumbass territory: “I have to see him a least once a year for a prescription.”
“have to”?
“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” (Dr. Marcia Angell, NY Review of Books, January 15, 2009, “Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption”)
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/06/medical-weapons-and-fake-data-sets-how-destruction-multiplies/
We got our previous cat from the animal shelter which had already injected the cat with several vaccines before we adopted her. Our cat died at age 6 from leukemia-cancer. I’m certain the vaccines sped up her death.
My kid just took his dog into the local Vet for a ‘rabies’ shot. Mostly good people, but he got taken. $800 later when he picked up his dog, they did ‘all the shots’ the dog was due.
He said never again……………. ‘all take the fine if it comes to that’
He’s learning.
And ps: I have seen a rabid coyote and a racoon. up close and only one of each in 30yrs on our little farm. felt sorry for them actually. they were in stress big time. I was not able to dispatch them at that moment but my neighbors did.
Scam usa!
If they don’t have records of the dogs vaccination they’ll by law “catch them up”. All at once. And you get the bill. And if you don’t pay within a certain time-frame (say 10 days,,, it’s curtains for Rover). If you don’t pay for the arrears billing plus the cost of the the upkeep and murder plus interest and late payment fees for laughs and giggles your credit rating will be destroyed. I seen this up close once.
So don’t laugh when you see some oxygen wasting government fool wannabe actually running for office of animal control.
‘Animal control’ conned us once. we had a Dobi that lived outside on our small farm. She knew her boundaries to the foot, and never went outside of them, never. Supposedly, Dobi’s are good about this? IDK for sure, but we walked the miles of the boundaries often.
We left for a long weekend, and an electric company truck was working on the street. Our dobi went to investigate and the guy got nervous and called ‘animal control’. They took our dobi and when we got home she was nowhere to be found. we were sick. Took us a day to figure out where she was, locked up.
I was furious “DID HE EVER STEP OFF OFF OUR PROPERTY????” NO. Give me my dog back you ##shole. I challenged the local cops to make sure this guy never came near my property again. They took care of it and the guy got in a little trouble (in our town anyway).
Got me thinking. Best dog ever (we’ve had). Walked the kids to the bus down a long driveway, scared off snakes, bears, etc…. OMG bears, what a sight to see, treed them, circled and nipped at them, etc… ran after their cubs, thought she was a gonner, but nope came back half hour later with her chest held high “got him gone dad!” haha….
She chased deer to her dying day and stopped in full flight at the property line. amazing.
Best dog ever, I miss her. RIP Harley. I’m tearing up. I’m gonna go visit her grave.
Hey Chris,
It’s unfortunately not only the vets, but it seems all the groomers require the rabies shot as well.
And though I’d never seen a rabid animal, my woman has. It was a German Shepherd at a pound that had been quarantined and was thrashing around, foaming at the mouth and biting himself. I guess he had bit someone, and they dispatched him shortly after he began showing signs. Not a desirable condition.
As far as vets and their dominion over medications, it’s what I say about any substance: just sell it over-the-counter for fuck’s sake.
I dunno, BaDnOn & ChrisIN, there sure is a sheet-ton of info out there saying, “rabies” is one giant con-job.
What ChrisIn saw, maybe wasn’t all that it was?
Do you trust your overlords & their faithful minions to tell you the truth of the matter?
IDK either helot. But I trust almost no-one ‘in authority’ anymore. Except maybe my friends that are part of that schtick (cops), to a point. These guys have helped us often and never have done anything wrong that I know of.
I see coyotes a lot and racoons often enough. The two that I saw were in bigtime distress, mangy, foaming, the whole works. I got within 20ft of both of them cause something was wrong, and they could have cared less about me. But again, only 2 in 30yrs.
It was almost like they were asking to be taken out of their misery.
As for con-job, no idea, but I wouldn’t want the two I saw around my kids or other animals.
Helot,
I typically don’t trust my new feudal lords as far as I can throw the District of Criminals, but that doesn’t mean they’re always lying.
I trust my wife in that she saw an animal displaying the classic signs and symptoms, and I don’t disbelieve others who have seen such animals. Also, unlike you, I see a rabies virus as, at very least, a valid hypothesis, and more likely a well-studied and established pathogen.
Now is it a relatively rare affliction? Sure. Even the stated case rate is very low, and you can go your whole life without seeing a rabid animal, so I see no problem if you’d rather not vaccinate your animal, and there should be veterinarians and groomers out there who are accepting of those who don’t.
Its crazy how many veterinarians turned into VAX-nazis around here. Used to be, before the plague, your animals could be treated without worry of their ‘status.’ Now, thats almost impossible.
Our long time vet retired. The young female who bought his practice wouldn’t even do the blood work on our dog unless we updated the VAX-status.
I shouldn’t be surprised, as women, [especially those covered in low class tattoos] ruin everything not directly associated with the home and family
Fortunately we found the last local vet that doesn’t make treatment dependent on VAX-status. Old and close to retirement, so we’ll need a work around going forward.
At the Farm and Garden store you can buy Ivermectin over the counter for animals. How about when are going to be able to buy Ivermectin over the counter for humans??
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/07/ivermectin_has_surprising_potential_against_cancer.html
We’re hearing of a new “COVID variant” in China, which leaves me wondering if corporate media and sociopaths in various governments are going to try to frighten people AGAIN like they did in 2020 and issue nonsensical diktats that had NO EFFECT on the dreaded ‘Rona but caused MASSIVE damage to society and countless lives.
Been buying flea/tick/dewormer from Australia for years. Used to be much cheaper, now not so much, but still available without the vet visit.
pets megastore has been good to me.
At one place I worked, a few of the higher-ups got caught with heir hands in the cookie jar — some sort of non-declaration of a conflict of interest or something, I’m not sure exactly what, it was never specified.
At any rate, as a consequence of that incident, we (who had nothing to do with any of it) all had to take done kind of ethics class. Which was just about the lamest BS you boiled possibly imagine, and basically boiled down to “you have to follow the law, and if you think something is unethical it probably is so don’t do that, and by the way here’s a snitch hotline just in case” — which nobody in their right mind actually trusted. Whatever. I got my “certificate.”
No one ever deals with the real, tough questions. Like, what happens when it would be unethical to comply with the law? Or, for that matter, what do you do if you see something wrong but your code of ethics forbids snitching?
That stuff you have to figure out for yourself, I guess.
Good luck.
And pick up that can, citizen.
Yep. Some exec bangs his secretary and we all ended up in harassment training class. Some exec takes some questionable stuff from overseas customers and we all end up in ethics training class. They didn’t like my comment “Your need for these classes means you’ve lost control of your organization – you’re either ethical or you’re not so who wasn’t minding the store here?”
People say “exec bangs secretary” as if it’s a bad thing.
Assuming it was consensual (i.e., not rape), that’s one of the privileges that comes with being an executive, that’s between him his wife and the secretary, and the secretary knew or should have known what she signed up for when she took the job.
Some people don’t like this. Probably because they aren’t executives and/or don’t have secretaries. Or spouses. Or very much fun, in general.
Oh it was turned into a “big scandal” as a convenient way to get rid of the POS manager. That begs another question, if the manager was not great why didn’t you just fire him? No fun in that I guess.
“Some people don’t like this. Probably because they aren’t executives and/or don’t have secretaries. Or spouses. Or very much fun, in general.”
Exactamente.
And such people ruin oh-so-many things, don’t they, Publius.
Which is probably why they’re single.
In a free country, the servants in government cannot mandate anything. Their privileges extend only to prohibiting things strictly, clearly, and demonstrably in the public interest, and only if it respects the rights of the individual.
Mandated car insurance. Mandated health insurance. Mandated helmets. Mandated seat belts. Mandated tax filing. Mandated draft registration. Mandated everything. Not a single bit legitimate.
‘Mandated everything.’ — Ernie
Mandated tariffs. Tariff Man’s arbitrary edict of an across-the-board tariff just got shot down by the Court of International Trade. His IEEPA Act legal fig leaf doesn’t even contain the word ‘tariff.’ He just made that sh*t up.
In other news, Tesla Man just decamped from the imperial capital with his long caravan of wagons, servants, domestic animals and concubines. ‘Elon Musk made clear he was frustrated with the obstacles he encountered as he tried to upend the federal bureaucracy as an adviser to President Trump,’ explains the New York Slimes.
Were we not entertained?
“Rabies” is another bullshit “virus” they use to scare everybody into pet vaccinations. Has anybody here ever seen a single case of rabies in their lifetime? I don’t think so. Instead, this is what’s offered as proof of it’s existence. It’s, of course, always a scary, spikey thing, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rabies_Virus.jpg
Amen, Mister –
I have lived in the rural country for 20 years. Not once have I encountered a “rabid” anything. Excluding, of course, government workers. One of our cats is almost 20. I refuse to subject her to any vaccinations, which might accelerate her death. But because I won’t, no vet in these parts would agree to treat her.
Here’s another offering of proof. It reminds me of the bodies falling on the sidewalks in China from “covid.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hydrophobia_in_rabies.webm
And here’s the first image in the Wiki page for “rabies.” They have to rely on a picture from 1958 of a “Man with progressive signs of rabies.” What a fucking joke!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manwithrabies4.png
I have seen a raccoon that was probably rabid (or at least something was definitely wrong with it, although it’s been a fair few years. 🦝
Same. Out in the middle of the day, staggering down the street and making crazy sounds. Neighbor shot it.
I don’t remember it making noises but otherwise sounds like exactly the same. Not far enough out in the sticks for that method, though. Would have been faster, safer for all concerned, way cheaper, probably just as humane, and just as effective though.
I don’t know if anyone here already heard, but DNI recently released documents showing that people who criticized the feds’ COVID response, from the “vaccines” to mask & vaxx mandates, may have been labeled “Domestic Violent Extremists” by the Biden-Harris regime. Had Kamala Harris won last year and was President now, such labels would likely have been expanded to include people who criticize, say, the feds’ climate change response, their push for continued wars, or even their push for DEI, which, ironically, is most militantly pushed by billionaires such as Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock.
As for COVID, the COVID vaccines, and vaccines in general, if there’s one good thing that came out of the past few years, it’s that more and more people have come to question vaccines and whatever the government says. COVID also exposed the rampant corruption in the American Health care system and these “Public Health bureaucracies” such as regulatory capture. Look at how many bureaucrats there have been in the FDA & CDC who’ve gone on to working for some drug company after they left their jobs and vice versa.
“Have you tried buying flea and tick repellent from a vet lately? The stuff that actually works being unavailable over-the-counter, very much of a piece with the cough syrup that works only being available if you beg the pharmacist to let you buy some and only after you have shown ID and been duly catalogued into the system.”
Go check on Amazon. Frontline or Advantage are both available on-line for both cats and dogs.
Hi BID,
I am pretty sure the stuff you can buy on Amazon is not the same stuff the vets sell. In other words, the stuff on Amazon is weak/watered-down/ineffective.
Use it all the time – highly effective.
I’m back visiting the Midwest for a couple weeks.
True story – just happened days ago in suburbia.
Hosts dog picked up about 6 ticks in a suburban manicured yard. They are not using Frontline.
My dog get Amazon sources Frontline on monthly basis. Went all the same places as their dog. No ticks on my dog.
Frontline. I have not researched it. It sounds like, Glyphosate.
Do you trust, Glyphosate?
Do you trust, priests in while lab coats wearing stethoscopes?
…Did you get, ‘The Shot’?
…See any disconnect?
Hurry up & let the past catch up.
Imagine, an internal shot keeps creepy crawly things from crawling on you,… you must be pretty fookin’ toxic for that to happen.
…Glowing in the dark, is good.
War, is peace.
Doing a double-take: your whole experience of your dog not getting ticks is Super-Duper-Extra-Creepy.
Glow-in-the-Dark, creepy.
Diatomaceous earth! Cheap and effective. You can get 4lbs at Home Depot for under $10.
https://pfharris.com/blog/diatomaceous-earth-for-fleas
Wow! Attacking a the lowest paid doctors. I have started a individual veterinary practice with my wife. Eric, I love your car and saaaaafety articles but you need to do a bit more research and sound just a bit less ignorant. Veterinarians have nothing to to do with licenses, in fact it is a paperwork pain. As for the flea, ticks and, you forgot the dangerous one, heartworm prevention. These are long acting medications in a body and since pets don’t talk or even hide illness it is in their best interest to be examined by their doctor. Do libertarians not go to the doctor to make sure their are no brewing issues with themselves?
And on making money, WOW! Independent small business veterinarians make less than useless people in society like most of the armed government employees, politicians and ac repairman, all that with 8 years minimum of higher education that cost the same as a human doctor. There is no corrupt medical insurance cabal to fluff their bottom lines, there is no discount on medical equipment (that is the same as human doctors) nor do they get a break on taxes, rent employee cost insurance etc.
Literally it is so bad that independent veterinarians are selling out to horrible corporate companies like Banfield, Mars, VCA, Thrive, Walmart and Pet Care Centers to name most of the big players. You think it is bad now let private equity take over what was once a small independent business care goes down cost goes up.
Our practice on vaccinates when needed, including rabies, there are titers that are used to see if they immune to this virus, a virus that untreated kills people.
Honestly having pets is not a right is a choice just like having a car or a truck. You can ignore maintaining you vehicle and it will break down and have a shortened life span just like a pet does if not properly cared for.
As far as the medications, the same evil companies that do human drugs do the veterinary ones, there is not much margin in them for the vet maybe 15% which is nothing compared most products sold by retailers.
So keep attacking a profession that is getting destroyed by large corporations and people who have no idea what they are talking about.
Hi Dennis,
I wasn’t attacking vets; I was attacking the way vets – like human doctors – are being used by the government. In my county, it is required that dogs and cats get tags – and guess who effectively enforces that? Same with regard to rabies shots. The local vets will not treat cats or dogs not vaccinated for rabies; even when they personally know the owner and the cats are 100 percent indoor cats. There is no room for discretion. It is one size fits all. It is this we-know-best and do-as-we-tell-you attitude that chafes.
You write: “Honestly having pets is not a right is a choice just like having a car or a truck. ”
Interesting. So, I haven’t got a right to buy a vehicle or a pet with my money? It is a conditional privilege, then?
To be clear, I sympathize with much of what you say as regards vets being pushed to go “corporate.” But we will not comply our way out of this. Forcing people to get pets vaccinated and inspected is both obnoxious on the face of it and contrary to your own interests in that it makes vet services extortionately costly, which pushes peoiple to go to corporate vets because they can offer cheaper – though still expensive – services, just like Wal Mart does.
“In my county, it is required that dogs and cats get tags – and guess who effectively enforces that?”
I know I’m a broken record on this but yet another reason you’ve got to leave VA for your own sanity.
Hi BID,
You’re not a broken record. The dilemma is that while there are other states that are “better” as regards certain issues they have their own issues that are as bad or even worse. Move from Virginia to get away from state inspections and helmet laws and you find yourself in a state with much higher state taxes (including property taxes) or zoning laws or some other thing. My point is you can’t move yourself out of this stuff anymore. All you can do is move to a place that’s a little better in this way – perhaps enough to offset it being worse in that way.
As far as I have been able to figure, the only way to meaningfully get away is to have the ability to move to some extremely rural area, far away from any densely populated area – and live Grey Man on a piece of land that you can live on in an RV and just go unnoticed.
Don’t disagree with your overall premise. It’s getting very hard to live a libertarian lifestyle in this world.
However there are places that are a lot better than where you find yourself.
It is true that you may have to give up mild VA winter to find something substantially more free, with far lower taxes, and far less government interference in your life.
But such places do exist.
Indeed, BID –
But is it realistic to move to a place such as you describe? I admit to not wanting to live the Kaczynski Life. But that appears to be the only remaining way to be “free” in what’s left of this country.
“As far as I have been able to figure, the only way to meaningfully get away is to have the ability to move to some extremely rural area, far away from any densely populated area – and live Grey Man on a piece of land that you can live on in an RV and just go unnoticed.”
There is a lot wrapped up in this that has different meaning to different people
Densely populated always means highly regulated.
I don’t know what extremely rural means to you.
I live within 60 miles of a city of 225,000 people with a regional airport that can get me anywhere in the world with one or maybe two connections.
I have a shopping center and AutoZone within 10 miles. I have smaller cities within 20 miles.
I have a tax burden that is a fraction of what you’ve written of.
I have local building regulations that only require the most basic of permitting to build a house. If you want to buy some property and live in an RV that isn’t prohibited. If you want to put a tiny home on said property – that isn’t prohibited.
I’m not saying this is the right place for you but having visited and traveled in VA I can assure you this is a different as the US was from the Soviet Union was when we were kids.
I know this won’t least forever but it is what it is for now.
The biggest problem where I’m at is the constant influx of people that bring their love of government and taxation with them and then try to change this place into where they came from.
Likewise they drive up property prices.
Quite honestly I liked it better 10 years ago before the shopping store and the AutoZone appeared.
Was it really to much to have to drive 20 miles to shop? Apparently the newbies think so.
I’m already looking to get further away from this crap!
Same here, BID –
A few local greedheads decided it would cool (and profitable) to bring a huge music festival – Floydfest – to this small rural town. Floydfest draws big-name acts and literally doubles the population for a week. Many of the city people who attend Floydfest decide to move to Floyd – bringing with them their city mindset. Now I have a got-damned Dollar store a mile down the road from me. It’s “convenient” for the city people. I liked it better when people had to drive 30 miles to get their made-in-China crap.
Yup.
Can’t change human nature.
But given that you’re comfortable with being 30 miles from shopping, that opens up a lot of potential territory for you.
Now matching VA mild winters – that’s a whole lot tougher but there are places that aren’t right for me but that I’d also consider if I were pressed.
VA is beautiful no doubt!
I’m curious, BID –
If you don’t mind naming names, where is this place?
With all due respect Eric, I prefer not to name it in an open forum. Happy to name it privately – you should have access to my contact info vis a vis what’s required to post here.
The bottom line is where I’m at may not be right for anyone else and is sort of irrelevant. If you begin searching in earnest for whatever it is that you desire, you can find those places whether they be in Georgia, Mississippi, Utah, or God Forbid – Northern California. Maybe even out side this country (I’m looking!!)
As you said, there is no perfect place. Only that which is better than where we are currently at and accepting that nothing lasts forever.
Rural Oklahoma is all I’ve known, so I can’t compare to living elsewhere. All I can tell you is there are some beautiful places with low populations, wide open spaces, and very little government.
I passed a sheriff deputy today driving my old hotrod with my exhaust cutouts open (didn’t see him soon enough to close them) and he gave me a thumbs up.
I live in rural southern Utah and it’s not as free as you’d think. State is run by very conservative religious people who have similar fetishes with controlling people. It’s a constant battle between state & county boards, wacko environmentalists getting everything locked from use and bordering land managed on behalf of the Indians by their Feds overlords. If it wasn’t a paradise for an river runner/climber such as I am (they ain’t making more land like this) I’d much prefer a different place. The Midwest is probably a better bet for someone who just wants to be left along and leave others alone.
RE: “With all due respect Eric, I prefer not to name it in an open forum.”
Seems kinda strange to read that, after the hype-up & all, & how, well, he wasn’t asking for your password.
It just stood out, like a post in the middle of a field, is all I’m saying. Was weird.
Barrow County Georgia.
Low taxes. 30 miles from a once great city, no pet taxes, no safety stickers, and even no emission checks. And I never once wore a mask.
But the covid scam brought the yanks escaping their respective hell holes.
It’s only a matter of time.
Born in downtown Atlanta and averaged a mile a year escaping “progress”.
Looking for a sailboat.
Also the cheapest gas in the nation .
RE: “no pet taxes, no safety stickers, and even no emission checks. And I never once wore a mask.”
Nice to read it. Very.
You know about the two greatest moments in a boat owners life, right?
Also, where ya gonna sail to?
Or, port at?
Lotsa regs about getting close to land. Lotsa. As in, no self-defense tools & much, “yes sir”.
Or, so I read. YMMV?
“such places do exist”
I’m not so sure about that. The problem is that the beautiful, formerly “free” places have been taken over by crazed shitlibs. Examples would be Colorado, Oregon, and Washington. Property prices in the West are ridiculous. It seems this is becoming a real problem in Idaho and Montana and Arizona.
“Red” states with more freedom, like Florida and Texas, seem to have stupid property prices in the places you’d actually want to live, high or unobtainable property insurance, immigrants, and overcrowding.
The places that are cheap and affordable are cheap and affordable because they are poor and/or the weather sucks, like Youngstown or Wheeling.
And no matter where you are, as we saw during the Biden regime, the Feds can come after you even if the state government doesn’t.
The problem is that Eric, like me, is a Gen Xer who grew up in a (are I say it) 90% white, prosperous, affordable country of 200 million with plenty of open spaces. Today it is a country of 340 million, and the additional 140 million are almost all nonwhite immigrants, while white middle-class jobs have been shipped to the Third World.
Globalism sucks for us average American white boys but it’s been great for the global corporations and the oligarchs.
X
I’m a Gen X cynic too, but you’re just being over the top. All places are not the same – that’s just a fact.
“And no matter where you are, as we saw during the Biden regime, the Feds can come after you even if the state government doesn’t.”
Not true. During 2020 there were vast differences in what States were doing regardless of the Feds. There were many county Sheriff’s refusing to enforce health department fatwa’s. During that era I was traveling cross country frequently and saw the differences first hand.
Part of it is a function of the state government. The rest of it is a function of cojones. Yours, but also everyone else’s in the area.
When it comes down to it, there will be no “safe” places, only places that incur less risk.
Up above in one of your other long-winded screeds, you mentioned Utah, but living here, I wouldn’t recommend it, but hey, do what you will.
RE: ““safe” places”
“Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.”
― Helen Keller, The Open Door
Ahem BID…..
VA “mild winters”?? … my Caracas squeeze considers anything above the North NC border “The Arctic Circle”.
I still advocate the Dominican Republic as the optimal “escape hatch” from the “Matrix”….presently, still Not too alien,
and comfortably proximate to “USA, USA”…type sensibilities.
i.e. you won’t “go cold turkey”….it would be a much smoother transition than the blowhard Robin Crusoe wannabes that want to “Go Pitcairn”….then cry 2 weeks later…”Where’s my MTV”.
Sine qua non….MUST LEARN SPANISH and ideally hook up with a Caribbean GF if possible…
Locate along the north coast ….in the Idyllic Septentrional mt range at an elevation of 1,500 ft or so (NO humidity!!!!)….AND BINGO…
Norman Rockwell (1950’s USA)…meets Vincent van gogh (Tahiti”). No shit….
Also, the “DEI western side” of Hispaniola scares away most fake USA USA virtue signalers…..
Actually the DR has great border controls….”Honest Injin”.
I’ve mentioned before on this site ..That I would rather camp alongside the Masacre river bank (The northern riparian border between DR/Haiti than try a similar stunt in South Chicongo IL…..ITS MUCH SAFER THERE!!!
BTW, the river derived it’s name from slaughtering a
a bunch of “Frenchies” in the vicinity….AND once again… no race baiting agitator assholes …….
just folks trying to make a living……from exploitive Aholes…(the actual history….) Hmmmm, sound familiar….??
I actually revel in “Diverse environments”…….
Just EARN your way…OR STAY WHERE YOU ARE…
EPCOT earth rocks!
Why wait Do Earth Now… before it’s too late…..
Most of you guys have NO idea how the Reputation of the “USA. USA” overseas has declined in the last 5-10 years…
Tell that to the Marines!……Well, I’m listening…….
“Honestly having pets is not a right”
Say what?
Didn’t realize we now must have permission from the State or a Vet to be allowed to have a pet.
Either I’m misunderstanding or ya’ all are some seriously screwed up people living in screwed up places!
RE: “Honestly having pets is not a right”
I do Not think you are misunderstanding.
As always (often?) with the freedomista mindset, you’re just having difficulties encountering the conditioned authoritarian mindset. Even if, said authoritarian mindset, is trying to break free from the mold.
Correction: “[We all] is some seriously screwed up people living in screwed up places!” You don’t get to opt out of Bizzaro World til you stop breathing.
…Like it, or not, You’re along for the ride.
Morning, Helot!
Yup. I wish Dennis would respond to the reactions to his comment about people not having a right to own pets. Maybe he didn’t think before he typed. I hope he’s thought better of it.
Dennis, it’s obvious that you don’t understand what a “right” is. Maybe go read some John Locke before exposing your ignorance.
And for being the “lowest paid” medical professional, independent vets sure charge enough. My holistic doctor that is cash pay only MD charges $75 for a physical. My dentist, that doesn’t accept insurance, doesn’t use fluoride, and doesn’t do metal fillings, charges $150 for a dental checkup and cleaning. The local vet who lets owners choose the level of treatment and care charges $350 for a 15 minute wellness check on a cat (dogs are $300). Guess which one I’ll skip because it costs too much for the benefit obtained?
Just wanted to express my admiration, Dennis, and full understanding of your position. We have a Maltese who is in his advanced years. The doctors in our local veterinary clinic are invariably courteous, professional, personable, and never push anything on us. I even point it to my wife what a fraud the human medicine here has become when compared to the vet medicine – the bills for the dog’s check-ups, x-rays and medicine are anywhere from 1/10 to 1/5 of what the similar “human” services are billed. I pay vet’s bills full cash which come less that copays I pay for my family and myself.
Hope your practice will survive the current business climate. All the best
I didn’t know this existed in the land of the flea: “The doctors in our local veterinary clinic are invariably courteous, professional, personable, and never push anything on us.”
…Never? Ever?
It’s hard to believe. What State is this?
Many vets these days should be attacked! Case in point: When I was looking for a new vet a few years ago because my old vet became a COVID-Nazi, I was told by prospective vets on the phone that my dog who was having an orthopedic problem would have to get vaccinated before they examine him, because they were afraid that they might get rabies (even though my dog, nor any animal I’ve ever had ever had any signs of rabies).
So I asked “So, if I were to bring my dog in, you’d have to give him a shot, and then magically, that would somehow protect you from a dreaded disease which he does not have? And if he did have said dreaded disease, once you administer said shot, you would then somehow be immediately protected? And you’d be willing to take the “risk” of working with an unvaccinated dog in order to administer said vaccine, but not to look at him and prescribe something that might actually help him with a problem which he DOES have (i.e. the orthopedic problem)?
Of course, they realized that they could not make any logical argument to what I said, so rather than trying and making fools of themselves, they’d just reiterate “He’d have to be vaccinated…it’s the law!”. I’ll spare you my reply to that.
There was a time when vets were stand-up people who actually cared about the animals above all else, and who practiced common-sense medicine. Now, most are nothing but the animal-world equivalent of pharma-govco cartel human doctors.
No wonder vets now have one of the highest suicide rates of all professions. (That, and the debt to which they indenture themselves to participate in that profession where they indeed do not make a lot of money.
I used to have a lot of respect for veterinarians. Now, that respect is gone, as most have become as bad as doctors. (And funny how they don’t even mention the fact that there is actually an opt-out option that one can avail themselves of by filling out a form. Not that I would even do that, as I’d prefer a vet who would just keep the government out of it.).
I did end up find a good old vet who neither hassled me about not masking, nor vaccinations (Don’t ask, don’t tell!), but as is typically the case, he is old, and will probably be retiring before long. Once these good old vets are gone we’re screwed.
I currently have a house cat who is over 20 years old. He was a former feral cat. Never had a vaccination of any kind. At his age, he is still very happy, active and energetic; in good health. Still plays with toys, and can still jump up on high surfaces. He has no teeth and still eats dry food.
Wild, & smart comment, Arthur.
Very insightful, “So I asked “So, if I were to bring my dog in, you’d have to give him a shot, and then magically,…”
I used to have a lot of respect for veterinarians, too. And, M.D.’s.
Now, that respect is gone, POOF!
Lotsa funny sheet going on. Lotsa.
Considering your problem with getting pet meds; are there any online retailers that sell them in your state or do you have a relative in a state where it is over the counter who can mail them to you?
I’ve hit the point in my life that I realize most of what’s pushed is poorly tested and probably ineffective, like the seasonal Flu shot.
E-Gads, you made me think of some RonCo commercial, or something:
“Considering your problem with getting pet meds; are there any online retailers that sell them”
You, too, can be just like a vet administering poisons into them while smiling & singing happy songs of death? …Get yours, today!
Private equity strikes again!
They continue to purchase & hollow out every industry/market they can get their (cheap Fed money) hands on – in this case veterinarian services.
Next up will be trade contractors.
The entire economy is being taken private thanks to a broken economy and a dead currency.
Hi Flip.
My attitude now is to do it all myself. A lot of my buddies are in the trades and generally we can come up with a solution. As that guy on Junkyard Digs says “It might not be fixed but it’s different”.
The hardest part of trying to fix something can be the realizing that it’s not worth paying someone to fix it but it’s unlikely to cost you much to try if you were only going to throw it away either way. The garbage man will still take it away even if it is even more broken than when you started. 🙂
Crack. Me. Up. Love it: “It might not be fixed but it’s different”.
I wrote that comment long before I read Landru’s comment above. And now, it seems… not-so-nice in tone/atmosphere? Idk.
…Like being in a room full of pet killers, & some were not?
Yeesh, this is the strangest EPautos thread I ever read.
“All those who favor pet death & long-term disability due to the syringe, say: eye”
“All those who can’t see the switch of pet, with people death & disability due to the syringe, say: eye”
Yup, currently living through PE takeover of our little niche industry. It’s a disaster in the making when wall street takes over. we are holding tight and developing our legacy ourselves (very hard).
We’ll see who wins in the end. IDK.
Hi Chris,
Yup. I hope I can hold onto my place, but if not, it’s van time. The idea actually has appeal in a lot of ways. Twenty acres somewhere deep and the van far out of sight.
I may be wrong (& I hope I am) but I think, you’re dreaming: “Twenty acres somewhere deep and the van far out of sight.”
‘To The Far Blue Mountains’ meets a drone swarm & a tax man?
Idk.