Very few people dislike firemen or EMS workers. This is probably a function of the fact that they only come when called – which is another way of saying when they’re needed.
Police are not like that. They come when they’re not needed – much less wanted. They are always prowling around looking for reasons to police people. The word is italicized to emphasize an important point. Rather, to raise some important questions. Is “policing” a justifiable thing? What do we mean by “policing”? Well, in general, it means enforcing laws. These laws need not be good laws – in the moral sense. All that matters, as far as the police are concerned, is that the law is the law.
This brings us to some policing that’s been going on in New Jersey, in a town called Dunellen. The local police dressed up in ghillie suits – these are suits that make a man look like a bush and are usually used by military snipers and hunters to avoid being seen by their targets, which is just exactly how they were used by the police in Dunellen, NJ. Their targets were drivers who transgressed the law that says Thou Shallt Not Use Your Phone While Driving. Ghillie-suited cops hid themselves in plain sight, waiting for transgressors. At least 74 such paying customers – so to speak – were bagged. In New Jersey, it is a transgression to use a phone while driving and the punishment for this transgression ranges from $200-$400 for a first-time transgression. If additional transgressions are committed, the fines go up.
The Dunellen police say that “that text or notification can wait. Keep your eyes on the road, not your screen.” This is fascinating on several levels. In no particular order, let’s begin with the fact that police are constantly on their screens – the big computers that are built into every police car. They are regularly on them while they are policing (that is, driving around looking for people to police). Of course – and to be fair – so is everyone else. At least, so is everyone else who is driving around in a car made since about five years ago, when built-in smartphones became standard in all new cars. They have even bigger screens to keep you distracted and lots of icons to tap and swipe, too.
Which raises another question: Why should either thing be illegal? Put another way, what is the harm in using a phone (or the phone built into the car) if no harm is caused thereby? Think about that one for a moment.
The premise behind all the policing, of course, is that harm will follow but this is (obviously) not necessarily so. Or even probably so. It is the same fallacy that underlies laws that say a person may not carry or even possess a gun; not because a particular person did anything to cause harm with a gun but because a generic “someone” might cause harm. Similarly, the person who uses a phone while driving is presumed to have caused harm even though he has not actually caused it. Nevertheless, he is punished.
This is arguably the biggest moral problem with this policing business. 
There is no moral problem when the firemen you asked to show up arrive to douse your burning house. Or when EMS come to try to save a person who has been hurt or who is gravely ill and requires immediate medical help. There is a massive moral problem in police hiding as bushes to police people who’ve caused no harm to anyone. Of course, police have been hiding behind bushes for generations, in order to police “speeders” and seat belt law transgressors and HOV offenders. Once again, note that these transgressions entail no actual harm done to anyone.
Such policing is arguably a form of sadistic behavioral enforcement. We saw a lot of that during “COVID.” Remember?
A recent piece by Leo Hohmann gets into this. It dissects what he calls severe psychopathic authoritarianism. Put in vernacular, do as you’re told – because we say so. Or else. We got a heavy dose of this during “COVID.” We saw – all of us – just how psychopathic and authoritarian (and sadistic) policing can be.
Now, the article’s focus is on Flock “safety” cameras. But note the common thread. Authoritarian behavioral enforcement in the name of “safety.” It is the same premise used to justify the ghilli-suited policing performed in Dunellen – and everywhere else the same kind of policing (ghilli-suited or not) that has become routinized in this country.
Hohmann quotes from Dr. Joseph Sansone, who is a psychiatrist:
“These cameras create a permanent map of law-abiding citizens and can record exactly where you sleep, work, worship, or socialize, completely destroying the right to move anonymously in an alleged free society. The cameras can be used to target political dissent by tracking who attended rallies and protests and can retroactively search the cameras surrounding the event to log the vehicle descriptions, license plates, and identities of every attendee. Cross-state surveillance allows one state to police actions in another state.”
Are we surprised that such panopticonic surveillance is upon us? Why are we surprised? Does it not follow from police hiding behind bushes and (now) dressing up as bushes?
If it is accepted that it’s acceptable to police people who’ve not caused harm but might (so it is claimed) cause it, then there is no coherent argument to be made to limit such policing. Indeed, there is a strong argument for the maximum-feasible policing. Our Safety demands it. To the nth extent, as depicted by Orwell in 1984. Policing everywhere, all the time. Not just out in public but also in private. In your bedroom. In your bathroom. Because there is always the possibility you might be doing something unsafe and the possibility of that simply cannot be abided.
Right?
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Continued from https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2026/08/09/this-is-why-policing-is-a-problem/#comment-1206630
AJC said, “Steve, You tell so many lies about Palestinians–seem like an Israeli Bot. Iraqis and Syrians were both wanting to overthrow Jordan’s king who isn’t a Palestinian but Hashemite installed (just like the Sauds who run a “country” named after them) by the British.”
Assuming you are literate, read point 2 of your very own source. Don’t as AI to read it to you.
For once in your frickin’ life, can do do some research for yourself, rather than go off half cocked?
I tire of all this bullshit. If you can’t be bothered to check your sources, you are just noise.
What is it about being associated with Israel that reduces a country to rubble? First Venezuela’s USIsrael puppet government sells out Palestine and two earthquakes hit it. Then the same thing happens in Colombia: “Colombia becomes second country to recognize Israeli sovereignty over Golan Heights, joining US. Bogota says it recognizes Israeli sovereignty over Golan Heights as an ‘essential component of its national defense’ • Sa’ar: Decision demonstrates Colombian president’s ‘commitment to Israel'”
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-905102
BOGOTA, Aug 10 (Reuters) – “At least 111 people were killed after a powerful earthquake struck western Colombia on Monday, toppling buildings across several cities, damaging hospitals and infrastructure and trapping people beneath the rubble in what authorities called the country’s strongest earthquake of the century. The quake struck just days after Abelardo De La Espriella was sworn in as president, thrusting the new administration into its first major crisis, with memories still fresh of devastating twin earthquakes in neighboring Venezuela in June.” [the death toll may be higher reports say “rapidly rising” –hopefully not near as high as in Venezuela where over 6,100 were killed.]
[There was an also an earthquake there the day before the new president took office: “Mag. 4.3 earthquake – 13 km northeast of San Marcos, Departamento de Sucre, Colombia, on Thursday, Aug 6, 2026, at 01:53 am (Bogota time) – 5 days ago”]
On 6/21/26 Financial Times reported “The Trump administration has collected more than $13bn in revenues from Venezuelan oil sales this year, according to FT calculations. So what has happened to the money? John Reed unpacks Washington’s conflicting accounts.” Apparently Venezuela has only rec’d $400 million despite the devastating earthquakes.
From https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2026/08/09/this-is-why-policing-is-a-problem/#comment-1206489
Eric: You miss the point: People – more of them than ever – are sick of Israel.
I think the problem seems to be a misunderstanding of the concept of a hypothetical. Let’s try it this way.
Suppose that when WWI finished, the country of Germany ceased to exist. It broke into its ethnic regions like Brandenburg and Mecklenburg and Sachen, and Bremen, and that the victors decided France should take the lead in making sure Germany never rose again. Suppose further that blacks in the US finally decided they weren’t going to put up with segregation anymore, and started buying property in Brandenburg.
A decade later, there’s a kerfuffle in Berlin, and a few Brandenburgers, shouting their hatred of blacks, kill a few of them. France steps in, sees the issue and says, “Blacks, you over here, Brandenburgers, you over there.”
“But we own some of that land,” say the blacks.
“Tough.”
A couple decades later, the clock is running out on France’s time to finish the division of what was Germany, so they sketch some lines on maps. The rest of the former Germans, plus the Czechs and Swiss, who don’t appear to be affected in the slightest, are furious, and the day after France goes to Paris for baguettes, they all attack the blacks. Somehow the blacks win, and at the end of the war, the blacks are holding more territory than when they started.
OK. First, make the case that the blacks are at fault.
“They all attack the blacks” is a nice Purim spiel, Steve. Truth is that 1967 war began with a SURPRISE PRE-EMPTIVE Israeli attack on Egypt. Then Israel grabbed Gaza and the West Bank and Jerusalem. Just like after Israel’s pre-emptive attack on Iran, Israel’s grabbed Southern Lebanon. Jew owned Epstein puppet Trump and Rubio are allowing Israel to reduce sothern Lebanon to rubble just like they did Gaza. Villages that are 100s of years old destroyed with NO COMPENSATION to any of the owners. They’re all terrorists and have to evacuate because the Jews said so! And Witkoff, Kushner, and Trump, Blair et al pocket billions that belong to Palestinians and Lebanese.
Front page of today’s Times of Israel: “Settlers surround Palestinian family’s West Bank home in ongoing day-long siege. Homeowner tells ToI settlers built makeshift structure in front of house a day ago, blocking entry and exit, SOLDIERS CAME TO PRAY WITH GROUP AND LEFT WITHOUT REMOVING THEM. …Youssef Hassan, the homeowner, who lives there with his wife and their two young daughters, aged two and four, told The Times of Israel by phone on Monday that settlers erected a makeshift structure in front of the entrance to his home a day earlier and have since prevented anyone from entering or leaving, leaving him trapped inside. He said they also CUT THE ELECTRICITY LINES. ….Video footage shows settlers gathered in the structure near the house. In another clip, they can be seen attempting to open one of the gates to the yard.
Hassan said he has lived in the house for five years. Settlers began coming to the property and harassing the family around seven months ago, he said, but the situation escalated over the past two days when they blocked the access routes to the home.
He added that he is trying to find a way to get his wife and daughters out of the house because of the danger he said the settlers pose to them.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-surround-palestinian-familys-west-bank-home-in-ongoing-day-long-siege/
DO YOU THINK THESE JEWS ARE GONNA GIVE THE PALESTINIAN ANY MONEY FOR HIS HOME ANY MORE THAN THEY GAVE THE PALESTINIANS IN 1948, IN 1967, OR IN GAZA?
WE ARE SICK OF ISRAEL. WE ARE SICK OF THE JEW LIES. WE ARE SICK OF SPENDING $39 TRILLION DOLLARS TO DEFEND MURDERERS, LIARS AND THIEVES. THE JEWS CAN PAY FOR THEIR OWN GENOCIDE! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DONE!
Hold your horsies. Even you are smart enough to realize we are at 1948. Are you already conceding that so far the actions of Blackland are not inherently evil?
This is a three minute preview of Israeli documentary re: the Nakba. “We were told that 750,000 Palestinians just picked up and left Israel.” Guess what really happened? Same playbook Israelis currently implementing in the West Bank: Settler Terrorism backed up by the Palmach/Haganah/Lehi gang
https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/tantura-takes-on-israels-silencing-of-ethnic-cleansing/522834829647623/
AI: Tantoura Interviews: The documentary film Tantoura featured interviews where former Israeli Alexandroni Brigade soldiers explicitly discussed the killing of unarmed Palestinian villagers following the capture of Tantoura in May 1948.
AI: Deir Yassin Massacre: On April 9, 1948, paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi killed over 100 Palestinian villagers, an event widely condemned internationally and locally acknowledged by participating fighters.
AI: Archival Revelations: Historical research utilizing declassified Israeli state and military documents has brought forward signed orders and operational logs detailing the systematic expulsion and destruction of hundreds of Palestinian villages, though official state policy maintains that the archives remain heavily restricted and do not constitute an institutional admission of war crimes.
Here is the full documentary (1 hr 35 min)
https://odysee.com/@MissConceptions1:f/Tantura:6
“Description: When Israeli graduate student Teddy Katz meticulously documented a massacre of Palestinian civilians surrounding Israel’s independence, he was initially celebrated for his groundbreaking work. But soon, he was stripped of his degrees and was publicly shamed as a fraudulent traitor. Decades later, incendiary new evidence emerges to corroborate Teddy’s initial findings, not just vindicating him, but raising profound questions about how Israelis — and we all — deal with the darker chapters of history.
“IMDb: In the war of 1948 hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated. Israelis call it ‘The War of Independence. Palestinians call it ‘Nakba”‘. The film examines one village – Tantura and why “Nakba” is taboo in Israeli society”
Of course. Which was the more merciful? The six week Nazi blitzkrieg into Paris, or the 4 years of trench warfare? It seems incongruous to anyone unfamiliar military matters, but what the world today calls “proportional response” is the cruelest way to run a war because it prolongs it much more than an overwhelming response would.
At the time, militaries recognized that. They had learned the lessons of WWI, of war dragged out so long that civilians were either dying of disease because of malnutrition, or were dying of malnutrition itself.
The arab league intended to wipe out every jew. Quickly. Overwhelming force, tanks against men with rifles. That it didn’t work out that way is still being studied, though it sure looks like the lion’s share was own goals.
So why was the matter taboo to jews? You know as well as I. Though “kill enough of them and they stop fighting” was established doctrine, and would be used again by the UN in Korea in a couple years, and by the US again in Vietnam, and again by Brits and US in Fallujah and Mosul, the jews knew they would be held to a different standard than anyone else.
Thank you, Zio-Steve for the lesson in manipulation, straw-manning and moral relativism.
The primary problem (among so many) in your hypothetical is that the blacks BOUGHT land in Brandenburg (i.e a voluntary purchase and sale). Israel did not buy any land. It stole the land and continues to do so to this day (eg. southern Lebanon) through the slaughter of tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of actual semites.
Take your Hasbara bullshit and go away, you immoral bastard. It doesn’t work here. Fuck you and your which was the more merciful attack.
“The arab league intended to wipe out every jew. Quickly. Overwhelming force, tanks against men with rifles. That it didn’t work out that way is still being studied, though it sure looks like the lion’s share was own goals.”
Steve, You are just constant with the lies–catch you in one lie and you invent another. The JEWS declared the State of Israel (claimed the territory). The JEWS went around from Arab town to Arab town attacking the people, murdering them and driving them out. Watch the Tantura documentary. If they could visit like the KKK and scare the people away, that was fine. If they could kill 2-3 and the rest would run away, that was fine. If they had to massacre the men and rape the women and then bus those left across the border, that was fine too. Then they bulldozed the villages so the Palestinians could not come back! No compensation for the destruction. No justice for the murder and destruction. TO HELL WITH THE JEWS. TO HELL WITH ISRAEL. GET THE GREEDY PARASITES OFF THE U.S. TAXPAYER. CONGRESS GIVES OUR MONEY TO ISRAEL AND ISRAEL PAYS FOR THEIR RE-ELECTIONS AND RUNS ATTACK ADS AGAINST THEIR COMPETITION w/our taxpayer money (and also funds junkets to Israel, plus tax and stock tips; corruption corruption corruption). Who murdered Count Folke Bernadotte? Who blew up the King David Hotel — WERE THEY ARABS or JEW TERRORISTS–same damn Jew terrorists still terrorizing the world. Ask Marjorie Taylor Greene. Ask Abdul El Sayed. Ask Mamdani. Ask Ro Khanna. Ask the Epstein victims.
What compensation have the Gazans received for their ocean front property? For their port and their off shore oil, Steve? Where’s the compensation from the filthy-rich-from-stealing Jews, Steve?
“Gaza is nearly 3 times smaller than Hiroshima, and Israel dropped ~200,000 tonnes of explosives, equivalent of ~14 ATOMIC BOMBS, on Gaza in 2 years”
Israel murdered over 70,000 Gazans (and now they are carting away the rubble, 100 trucks a day, so that no official body count can ever be made), wounded over 174,000, have murdered over 1200 and wounded over 4500 since the ‘ceasefire’ and told Trump today when his Board of Peace said that Israel had stopped the assassinations in Gaza and withdrawn to the yellow line and so was complying with Trumps 15 point peace plan whatever Netanyahu said about rejecting it. “Israel reportedly tells US that it will keep going after October 7 attackers. Israel has told the White House that it will continue to pursue Gazan terrorists who took part in the October 7, 2023 attacks, Channel 13 reports. It is willing to discuss pausing assassination attempts against terrorists who did not take part in the attacks, according to the outlet. However, Israel has not targeted October 7 terrorists or any other terror targets in Gaza this past week.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-reportedly-tells-us-that-it-will-keep-going-after-october-7-attackers/
According to Dropsite News over the past weekend IDF killed: “Israeli attacks kill 13-year-old girl, wound several Palestinians across Gaza: A 13-year-old Palestinian girl was killed on Monday after succumbing to wounds sustained when Israeli forces shot her on Saturday in the Al-Mawasi area of Khan Younis, southern Gaza, WAFA reported. Several Palestinians were also wounded by Israeli fire in Jabalia, northern Gaza, early Monday, while Israeli artillery shelled multiple areas across Khan Younis, Al-Bureij, and Beit Lahia. Israeli attacks on Gaza over the weekend: Israeli forces shot and wounded three Palestinians in Khan Younis on Saturday morning, according to WAFA. Israeli forces shot and killed a young Palestinian man near Deir al-Balah in central Gaza on Saturday. On Sunday, Israel shelled the Al-Bureij and Jabalia refugee camps, Israeli tanks fired on Gaza City, and the Israeli navy bombarded the coast near Al-Bureij, Khan Younis, Rafah, and Gaza City. Israel shot and wounded three more Palestinians, including a child, on Sunday evening, opening fire in the central Khan Younis neighborhood of Al-Najjar and the western Al-Dahra neighborhood, according to WAFA.”
According to 7/16/26 article by Times of Israel: “Israel steps up campaign to kill all 5,000 Oct. 7 terrorists; 1,200 were killed on the day, 1,500 so far since” [Israelis still have 2300 more Palestinians to kill (NB: no trial, no charge, just assassinate for maybe crossing through a fence.]
Imagine if Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthis/Iran were to claim the same right to kill Israelis:1,200 Jews killed, 1/4 (367) of which were IDF so battlefield loss and probably 1/8 were killed by IDF carrying out Hannibal directive (Israeli helicopters firebombed 70 cars returning to Gaza and no separate count of the hostages they killed in those cars so wouldn’t have to negotiate for them; no separate count of Israelis killed by IDF tank fire in kibbutz so could wrap up the operation quick). But Israel gets to murder 5000 Palestinians. And in trying to murder those 5000 they get to murder 70,000 other Palestinians plus wound 174,000 others and destroy every building, road, sanitation facility etc. –THEN THE JEWS GET TO MOVE IN! But Hamas can’t fight back or they are terrorists!
“A BBC investigation found that out of more than 160 cases of children shot in Gaza, 95 sustained single-bullet wounds directly to the head or chest. Eyewitnesses in 57 of those cases stated the children were shot by the IDF, often while inside designated humanitarian safe zones.”
Times of Israel 7 AUG 26 “Number of Palestinian minors in Israeli administrative detention rises sharply — data; While Israel stopped holding Jewish suspects without due process, it has intensified practice against Arabs, expanding number of Palestinian minors held in past year from 103 to 191….“While children in Israel and around the world are enjoying their summer vacation, a growing number of Palestinian children are being held in harsh conditions identical to those of adults. Particularly troubling is the sharp rise in the number of children held in administrative detention — imprisonment without charge or trial, based on secret evidence,” she said.
“According to the Israel Prison Service, a total of 3,198 Palestinians are currently being held in administrative detention, the vast majority from the West Bank. The figure does not include Palestinians detained during the war in Gaza who are classified as “unlawful combatants….
“Last week, Defense Minister Israel Katz boasted of having ceased approving administrative detention orders against Jewish suspects, while significantly increasing the use of the practice against Arab suspects….he claimed that violence committed by settlers is not terrorism, while violence committed by Arabs is.
“Given that administrative detention is no longer allowed against Jews, the Shin Bet has begun using a less severe order barring certain Jewish extremists from the West Bank.
“It issued such an order earlier this year against Tal Yinon Dardik, a settler who allegedly stripped a Palestinian victim, zip-tied his genitals and paraded him around the village of Khirbet Humsa in March.
“Katz refused to sign off on an extension of the order, allowing Dardik to roam freely in the West Bank.”
Let’s zip tie your genitals, Steve, and parade you around your village. And let’s do the same to Trump and Netanyahu, Katz, Gvir, Smotrich, Cruz, Huckabee, Rubio, Cotton, Schumer and Hegseth.
War is not a good thing. Never claimed it was. Rather that it’s just not the worst thing.
If you go to war, you do so for a sufficiently good reason that it outweighs the damage it will inevitably do. And once engaged, you pursue it as if you intend to win. (I criticized Trump on both counts, though later dropped the first when we found out he held some of his cards close to his chest.)
Sinwar made no pretense of either. (Another pair of own goals.) The attack was not targeting military assets or even potential soldiers. It was deliberately targeting “terror”. And they retreated back to their tunnels and hid behind human shields before israel even began to regroup.
So, again, the merciful way to have done Gaza would have been to ignore the hostages. Many of them were probably already dead, and many of the women probably wished they were. Instead of saying “Pretty please” for 3 weeks, there should have been an immediate overwhelming attack, followed by announcements that if the gazan civilians wanted to survive, move to the place we just bombed. “Everything south of street A and north of street B and east of street C and west of street D will be rubble in 20 minutes. Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
Not because I love war and death, but because I do not, and wish to see it end with as little misery as possible.
Thing is, Steve, the German national socialists were tried and executed for using exactly such tactics… somehow, it’s ok when the IDF (rather than the Waffen SS) does it.
Yep. The lesson of modern, mechanized, and especially air war is, “Don’t lose.”
See all that rubble in Russia-Ukraine? Guess what’s probably going to happen to the loser there. The only reason civilian losses are not catastrophic there is that the average Ukrainian has more sense than God gave the average crustacean. That and most Ukes were not really in favor of oppressing Russian ethnics. Well, other than the far western Ukes.
The losses in Urkaine are catastrophic and they have been for years – but not to the JEW Zelensky or all the US and UK politicians being bribed with the assets of Ukraine that don’t belong to Zelensky. Ukraine is nothing but a terrorist regime at this point, just like Israel. And both terrorist regismes are being funded and bossed by the Jews who have taken over the USG.
There were no “hostages”, ffs. It’s called “jew propaganda”.
Next thing this tard is going to say that Oct 7 (which was a complete fabrication, btw) was the start of the trouble in Gaza, and it will pretend it has never heard of “Nakba”.
There were no “hostages”, ffs. It’s called “jew propaganda”.
Let me see if I’m following you. When Hamas put on their fancy uniforms and released the “hostages” they were part of the jew propaganda?
You truly have a dizzying intellect, my friend.
Hasbara alert!
Remember when those jews dressed as arabs and got caught driving around with explosives in their car, and they put them in jail, then the IDF literally broke them out?
Yeah, Steve. F**k you. You can pretend to know nothing of jew games, but it does not fly here. Here, we know all about your motto “By way of deception, thou shalt do war”. WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, GENIUS. YOUR LIES MEAN NOTHING HERE.
Did I mention a historical fact you find difficulty dealing with, Steve? Poor widdle guy.
I watched an interview on youtube a year or so ago with an Israeli woman who had been held captive by Palestinians for several months and then freed. There was no rape, no sexual or physical abuse, just ordinary hunger shared with her Palestinian captors.
Steve,
We (many of us) don’t care. Israel Fatigue is a thing.
Your hypothetical is also a ridiculous thing. Blacks do not claim God made a land covenant with them; that it is their divine right to possess land in Europe. If they did so assert, it’d be right to say they are afflicted by the same derangement that characterizes Israelis.
Netanyahu is an evil son of a bitch. What is going on Gaza is an atrocity. There is no defending it.
The whole “land title from God” (a.k.a. Jewish title insurance) nonsense just doesn’t get it, with me.
Israel delenda est.
I agree, Adi –
That combination of divine entitlement (with its implicit denigration of the not-chosen) fosters pathological narcissim; add in a persecution complex and you’ve got a recipe for disaster.
I disagree with this assessment of “divine entitlement”. I believe your viewpoint of “divine entitlement” is somewhat clouded by the current people (ahem – jews) which claim the title. I get why you feel that way, they’re not the best example of “divine entitlement”. They are, in fact, the worst. You can see for yourself the type of people they are, I don’t need to explain it.
However, there was a time not so long ago when the white race aka “Christianity” aka the actual Hebrew Israelites of the Bible knew that they were, in fact, the “chosen people” of God, and the fact of the matter is, when the white race was the leading people with “divine entitlement”, we built western civilization and were responsible for things like the Renaissance. If there wasn’t a time when the white race felt a sense of “divine entitlement”, point blank you don’t have the computer you’re typing on right now or the car you drive or the house you live in.
“Divine entitlement” is ok in the hands of the right people. You’ll get things like, oh, western civilization. In the hands of the satanic jews, however, all you get is debt, misery, and death.
If we get the jews out of our govt (and, yeah, pretty much everywhere else), and repatriate every damn brown in the country back where they belong, we can as a people once again embrace our sense of “divine entitlement”, and in a few decades, we’ll be living in paradise and surfing the rings of Saturn together in peace.
Soon with the cameras/mikes in the cars won’t need an officer disguised as a bush–not sure they even need that now.
According to WHYY 8.4.26: “Dunellen is among 126 municipalities in New Jersey that RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE STATE Office of the Attorney General for the “Put the Phone Away or Pay” campaign in April during National Distracted Driving Awareness Month.
“Police Chief Dan Smith told WHYY News that the operation involving the “shrub” was NOT GRANT-funded. “This was simply a periodic, EXTRA ENFORCEMENT detail” [now that they know how lucrative highway robbery is.]
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8.9.26 YNET “Police are sharply lowering enforcement thresholds on high-risk roads as traffic violations move into an administrative system; critics warn of mass penalties and limited appeal rights, while police insist the goal is saving lives, not raising money. Israeli drivers could soon receive speeding tickets for exceeding the limit by only a few kilometers per hour under a major tightening of speed-camera enforcement that has already triggered fierce legal and public criticism…On a road where the speed limit is 70 km/h and authorities have identified an elevated safety risk, for example, a ticket could now be issued at 75 km/h instead of 85 km/h, as was previously the case. Police do not plan to disclose which roads will operate under the stricter thresholds…The precise thresholds will vary depending on the risk assessment for the road. The changes amount to one of the most significant shifts in Israeli traffic enforcement in years: more cameras, lower thresholds on selected roads, faster administrative procedures and less reliance on traditional courtroom hearings.”
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Israel (our greatest ally) uses ALPRs made in China despite US sanctions for their “Hawk Eye” OR “Eagle Eye” surveillance program: 6.27.24 “Israel Police deploying US blacklisted Chinese traffic cameras..Despite concerns about espionage, Israel Police chose to cover the country’s roads with Chinese-made cameras. It is a relatively cheap commodity, with high technological reliability, and a “proof of feasibility” over many years in China. According to the regulations, the cameras are supposed to track license plates only, but Adv. Gil Gan-Mor, director of the Civil Rights Unit of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) says that the system also stores a close-up image of the vehicle in which the driver and passenger can also be seen. He adds that police are able to cross-check data with other databases such as the vehicle license database, thus creating a connection between the vehicle and its owner.”
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-police-deploying-us-blacklisted-chinese-traffic-cameras-1001482805
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Per NPR 5.27.24 Google Face recognition is better than Israeli bought systems (8200 work for Google): “How Israel is using facial recognition in Gaza…FRENKEL (published article in NYT):So what they discovered – and this really came up specifically with the hostages – was that Google Photos, which is the same Google Photos you or I can have on our phone where you upload a bunch of photos, and then you can identify. In my case, I’ll say, OK, this is my child. This is my cat. And then you can then search your photos and say, please find me other photos of my child or of my cat. Google Photos is really, really good at this because they’re really developing the same kind of AI technology to match faces, to map faces that other companies are.
“And the Israeli army discovered that Google’s technology on this was actually so good that it was better than this custom-built software for Corsight – that Corsight had made for them. And so they started increasingly using Google Photos to identify specifically hostages that had been taken on that day, and they found that even with only a very small part of the face visible in a photo or in a video, Google’s technology was excellent at identifying those faces.
“BRUMFIEL: So they were just basically building photo albums, like, with a Google account.”
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Times of Israel 5.6.2020. “Police said to keep huge secret database on movement of Israelis’ cars…The police force has been compiling information on the movements of Israelis not suspected of any crime in a secret database that does not appear to have any oversight, a report said Wednesday…The purpose of the so-called Hawk-Eye program is to retroactively track where a car came from if its driver is suspected of involvement in a crime or a terror attack. However, a police source with knowledge of the system told the news site that the video footage is saved for at least six months and possibly years…The system began operating as a pilot project in 2014, the report said. The smart cameras are now located on many central roads in Israel and thoroughfares leading into or out of many cities, while others are mounted on police vehicles….The issue of government tracking of movement has emerged into the public eye in recent weeks as law enforcement authorities have sought and received permission to use phone data to track the movement of people for epidemiological purposes as part of the effort to keep the novel coronavirus from spreading.
“However legislators have put in place a system to oversee the tracking program and the Shin Bet normally needs a special court order to track phone locations.
“No such oversight mechanism exists for the Hawk-Eye system.”
“The cameras deployed in Israel do not yet have facial recognition capability, but according to Gan-Mor, the cabinet voted even before the outbreak of the war that it would also support biometric identification, although this legislation has not yet been enacted. “A lot of information can be extracted just from a photo of a vehicle along a road,” says Gan-Mor. “You can understand whether the journey is abnormal and what its destination is. If it is a destination that will embarrass the driver, it could be used against them. Cameras located near sensitive sites add a security aspect to the problematic nature of the camera system.”
[I meant to include this para about facial recognition in the ALPR cameras from the above linked article]
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-police-deploying-us-blacklisted-chinese-traffic-cameras-1001482805
‘It is not “nit-picking ad hominem” to point out hypocrisy. You endlessly defend the state of Israel by downplaying or not even mentioning what it does…”
I have no need to point out what they are doing wrong. That is almost literally every other post here. Well, except Yukon Jack’s. Those could be anything, and are often entertaining. I think that’s the guy I want to be in the nursing home. Though with a little softer edge, so I can occasionally get to pinch a cute nurse’s butt.
Point being, it’s hardly “hypocrisy” to offer a dissenting point of view. Well unless y’all are being hypocritical for not including the dissenting point of view in your posts…
Oops. Intended to reply to https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2026/08/09/this-is-why-policing-is-a-problem/#comment-1206432
Eric: “Netanyahu being one of those [who need to be put down].”
Could be. I’d entertain the argument. Say you were HMFiC of israel on 10/8. The attack is mostly over, and reports come in that there were around 250 from multiple countries who had been taken hostage.
Assuming that time flows only one way, what do you do?
Hi Steve,
Israel sows the wind and reaps the whirlwind. They’re not hated because they’re Jews. They’re hated because they’re assholes.
I do not, as an aside, believe the “10/8” thing happened as we are told it happened (of a piece with Nahhhhhhnlevven). I do not believe the Israelis are that inept. I believe the Israelis – the intelligence apparat of that state and its political cadres – are capable of anything, because they have established they are capable of anything. This is a state that practices assassination as policy; that condones brutality against women and children and commits genocide. What is going on in Gaza is what went on in Warsaw under SS General Jurgen Stroop.
Cui bono? That event (10/8) provided a lovely pretext, didn’t it?
Well, OK. Hypothetical situation. You are in charge. You withdraw all troops from Gaza, and remove all the settlers. You even dig up all the graves, so the gazans had no jews, living or dead, in their lands. At least to the best of your abilities. You, of course, obey the ceasefire, despite sporadic rocket attacks from the other side. You are that committed to peace.
You put one condition on the imminent elections in gaza — no known terrorists. Eventually, you cave to international pressure, and do nothing to stand in the way of totally free and fair elections. The election results come in, and people in a known terrorist group fill over half the seats. Six months later, that same group recommences firing rockets at scale, and even pops out of a tunnel to attack within your country.
What now? Are you at least as wise as Jordan and Egypt? “GTFO”, and treat them as they treated you? Or do you snivel with some “Mistakes were made” BS?
This scenario did happen 2005-7, and israel went with mostly the latter. A limited set of strikes (even gaza claimed there were only 402 killed) followed by the typical (for that people) internal strife when hamas and fatah went to war with each other.
Hi Steve,
Let’s begin with I don’t give a tinker’s damn about that state (Israel) and would be pleased if I never had to think about it again. You know, like Liberia, say. The thing about Liberia is it doesn’t cause problems; at least not for the United States.
It is probably too late for precious Israel. If Jewish people from Europe or wherever had simply wanted to live in peace in the “holy land,” as good neighbors with the people who were already living there, there would probably be no problem. Buy – rather than steal – the land they wanted to live on. Respect other people and their equal value as human beings. As well as equal political rights.
The problem is the state of Israel. This business of a “Jewish state.” That would never fly in any other context. How ’bout a Christian state? You know that would never fly. Never mind a white apartheid state (e.g., South Africa). But there is an exception – we are lectured – for Israel. Because the Holocaust. Never mind all the other (and far worse) ones, such as the Holocaust endured by Russians via Lenin and Stalin.
And because the Bible. Because a Bronze age document says God made a land covenant with a particular group and that gives them a divine right to the land. To other people’s land.
Oy vey.
As the Kaiser once said: I shit all over it.
>Respect other people and their equal value as human beings.
They do. Problem is, in their view of the world, only members of their tribe are human. The rest of us, they regard as a lower form of life.
In the hypothetical, you are in charge of a people, and it’s your job to look out for their interests. That’s what you scream about with politicians here, right? That they are not putting the interests of the people first?
If you are going to have things like leaders, shouldn’t they at least feign interest in the good of their consitutents?
Which means for the hypothetical it makes no difference what your opinion on israel or the jews might be.
FWIW, hypocrisy is not holding your side to the same standard you hold the other side. Like demanding american politicians act for the good of america, but that israeli politicians act against the good of israel.
Steve,
First – and again – don’t give a shit about Israel’s interests, except when they conflict with my own and those of my country. And “interests” do not justify evil actions. Ted Bundy’s interest in attractive young women, for instance.
” If Jewish people from Europe or wherever had simply wanted to live in peace in the “holy land,” as good neighbors with the people who were already living there, there would probably be no problem. Buy – rather than steal – the land they wanted to live on. Respect other people and their equal value as human beings. As well as equal political rights.”
Intriguingly, the start of that is roughly what did happen. Starting in the late 1800s jews were buying up large tracts. By 1920, they held deed to about 7% of the British Mandate, and, what was the main sticking point, about 30% of the farmland.
But the muslims were not nearly the peace-loving neighbors you imagine. In 1920, an arab uprising in Jerusalem killed a small number of jews (6, IIRC) and the Brits stepped in to remove the jews from land they held title to, but the arabs wanted back. No compensation until ’48 when the Brits adjusted the borders a little to try to make up for it. It was not a good deal for the jews — something like 20 acres of desert in exchange for 1 acre of the best farmland in the region, but it was something.
And the Jerusalem uprising was hardly a one-off. Muslim countries around the region took the cue and purged or expelled the jews (and christians) in their lands.
It’s not selling, Steve –
Israel is like the tatted-up thug cop who beats the shit out of you while screaming stop resisting!
Everything there is on wiki, ffs. Again, no interest in discussing on a factual, rational basis.
Steve,
You miss the point: People – more of them than ever – are sick of Israel. This stupid, evil god-damned war is the straw that finally broke the camel’s back. People – more of them than ever – tire of seeing Israeli flags and lapel pins and being told by American politicians that Israel is Our Greatest Ally.
It ain’t.
This is all freely available information on wiki, no zionist outlet, to say the least. Why didn’t you at least check to see whether the people you look to for information were even close to telling the truth?
Go away Zio-Steve. Your bullshit “arguments” suck!
Israel is a manufactured nation. Created by the theft of property from the people who lived there. Israel has no more right to it than I do. And they aren’t very good neighbors to boot. Blood thirsty would be more like it. I’ve got nothing against Jews. I was married to one for 35 years, with no complaints about her ethnicity. Israel, on the other hand…..
We’re not falling for your “terrorists” bullshit, either.
There is only 1 reason to label someone a “terrorist”: because you want to deny them their day in court for their supposed “crimes”. But satanic kike jews label people “terrorists” because it gives them the so-called “right” to murder them extra judiciously…right?
And the reason you want to deny them their day in court, is because YOU DON’T WANT ANYONE TO HEAR THEIR TESTIMONY. Right, “Steve”? Murdering people is pretty simple when you label someone a “terrorist”, but when you put them in a court before a jury, the fact they have a right to be heard is inconvenient for you, isn’t it?
You and your jew friends are the terrorists. And the world reserves the right to kill them extra judiciously. Using your own rules.
The definition of a “terrorist” is a person or group that attacks innocent human beings using furtive means to achieve a political or social goal or objective. “False flag” operations figure in to terrorist tactics.
The first modern-day use of terrorism was in occupied Palestine with the bombing of the King David Hotel before the state of israel was established.
Every jew on earth is a “terrorist” as the whole concept (total death and destruction of all living things) is baked into judaism itself. Total destruction of everything, men, women, children, toddlers and infants as well as all living things, livestock, other animals, every plant and blade of grass is demanded by the jewish “god” to this day.
Observe the “scorched earth” of innocents both approved and demanded by their jewish “god”.
Judaism itself has to be scrubbed from the earth. The jewish concepts of supremacy and victimhood are what keeps jewish mental illness alive.
The only real solution is to re-establish the “pale of settlements” with strong border controls. Let the deportations begin. Jews want a “homeland”. Let’s give them a real “homeland”…one without existing inhabitants. There is no other way.
Of course, we could copy the jews’ own scorched earth tactics and eliminate them on site, but that would not be human.
The civilized world needs to declare war on this bronze-age cult and scrub it from the earth. Let the jewish “god” show himself.
“…we could copy the jews’ own scorched earth tactics and eliminate them on site, but that would not be human.”
It would be the most human thing we could do. Jews are Canaanites. Deut 20:17 “Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.” Here we see that the “jews” (a purely modern term) are not only NOT the “chosen people” of the Bible, we see how much God HATES THEM, as we were clearly commanded to wipe them from the face of the Earth.
He goes on in Deut 20:18 “lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the LORD your God.” Here, God goes on to say that if we fail in this task, we will live with, well, pretty much what we live with today; child sacrifice, murder, the LGBTQ agenda, feminism, communism, etc.
There would be no sin committed to wipe them from existence. It is the most righteous, Godly thing we could possibly do to benefit all of humanity.
There are many “atheists” here, and that’s unfortunate, because the Bible is quite clear who the jews REALLY ARE (if you bother to read and understand it). They are of their father the devil (John 8:44). They are satanic, Ba’al worshipping filth, and they should all be put to the sword.
Hi Steve,
The bottom line is that many people are sick of the state of Israel, the disgusting genuflecting before it (performed by American politicians) and its disgusting activities. The “anti-Semite!” catcall is losing traction daily. The Rabbi Schmuli types are going to get it in the face. Not because they’re Jewish. But because they are insufferable walking turds.
My view is that anyone who humps the wall is either mentally ill or a stooge and I want neither “representing” me.
Ron and Rand Paul are wall-humpers. And it all begins to make sense, why the one sound money, quasi – libertarian congressman had a wimpy high voice and the delivery and presence of Droopy. And Rand, who voted for the sale of America to Israel, is famous for taking a beatdown from a woke leftist.
Roger that, KMose –
The wall humping is a litmus test. Many fail it. If I could afford to fly there, I’d save up an all-day piss for that wall.
“If could afford to fly there, I’d save up an all-day piss for that wall”
If I could afford to pay you to fly there, I would definitely help you. I am so sick of IsraHELL, and the view of that shitty piece of desert is some kind of “holy land”. It is not. People need to wake up and start treating the land they are in as their own personal holy land and give up all of those destructive bronze/iron age mythologies.
Don’t waste your time in yidland……
I could not image anything worse than being surrounded in an atmosphere of calculating yids…Yuck…..
listening to Brooklyn horseshit obnoxious (((..)))…accents
spewing constantly ……
Never…my tax dollars get hijacked by Israeli firsters (USA Traitors)…..all the time …..
If you are under 60 in live in the USA…you better “CORRECT” the problem….
Ideally starting Yesterday Afternoon.
“mow the Tel Aviv lawn”
It’s not israel fatigue but is actually jew fatigue.
Observe the caterwauling from jews on how persecuted they are, even here in the USA despite being one of the most successful groups in business..
I am convinced that judaism itself is the problem.
It’s the whole jewish pathology that needs not only scrutiny but scorn and derision from all decent human beings…with eventual abandonment on the scrap heap of history. There is no room for a bronze-age supremacist victimhood cult to exist on this earth.
I am convinced that most of today’s jews are living remnants of the wicked who were “washed away” during Noah’s flood or the remnants of those who were destroyed at Sodom and Gomorrah.
The lack of basic human empathy in jewish DNA is manifest for all the world to see with the cruelty imposed on Palestinians, Gazans, and others “not of the tribe”. Something is seriously missing in the jewish DNA genome.
Observe how jews behave when in public and while visiting other countries, their obnoxious, supremacist behavior stands out for all to see. The old saying: “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” does not apply to jewish tourists. Jews flaunt their “jewishness” while daring gentiles to criticize them allowing them to exercise their victimhood status for all to see.
Nothing compares to jewish lack of compassion, total lack of respect for those “not of the tribe” (gentiles or goyim) and the thrill that jews get when executing or torturing innocent men, women, children, infants, and toddlers with impunity, even publicly taking “bets” as to which limb or body part that they will target.
Jews support and uphold a double standard when it comes to responsibility and punishment for egregious and criminal behavior.
According to jewish doctrine, all gentiles worldwide (on a total group basis) are to be held responsible for any transgressions committed against jews. This is how jews justify their ongoing genocides against gentiles.
This same doctrine demands that jews be judged and held responsible for transgressions against gentiles on an individual basis, never as a group. This double standard insulates all jews from responsibility for their actions.
In addition, jews worldwide consider themselves to be subject to the jurisdiction of rabbinical courts, not civilian gentile courts. This double standard serves jews well.
Let’s not forget the disgusting criminal, creative but extremely cruel torture techniques that jews revel in imposing on their captives. One only has to observe the extreme torture methods used during the Bolshevik revolution as well as the continuing torture in israeli prisons to this very day.
Something is seriously wrong not only with israeli society but jews and judaism in general.
It starts at birth with the jewish notion of supremacy which is ingrained in the jewish psyche at birth and continues being reinforced in jewish attitudes throughout life.
On the opposite spectrum, there is the perpetual persecution complex which is also imposed at birth, jews claiming that they are hated just for being jews rather than for their criminal, unsavory supremacist behavior (especially against gentiles) which they tout with impunity.
It would be interesting to see judaism properly investigated on a psychological basis, noticing that the dichotomy (jewish supremacy vs. perpetual victimhood) that jews advocate and establish for themselves cannot be reconciled, resulting in rampant mental illness among jews.
Judaism itself should be declared to be a mental illness.
If the surface level trappings of culture and religion are stripped away, judaism is literally an international crime syndicate operating in broad daylight. Zionism cannot be separated from judaism as zionism is judaism’s political arm on steroids.
Jews worldwide must be put on notice that their days of supremacy and victimhood are numbered and that the majority of the world’s population is ready to take action against nefarious obnoxious jewish behavior. (Yeah, this includes Steve who is an apologist for judaism). We are already seeing that in many countries, jews being kicked out of business establishments, ets.
Amen. People are finally figuring out that racial jews are the problem.
When I was young, I lived in bad parts of NY, such as in the cheap parts of the Bronx or Brooklyn. 1980’s NY was rough in those places. Often, you’d see someone who was clearly up to no good, so you’d cross the street, or just turn around and get out of there. That scared feeling is the same for me now with cops. The only interactions I’ve ever had with cops were negative, where they lorded over me because I crossed the street in the wrong place, or I was driving late at night which is suspicious. The difference between cops and Bronx thugs is that a cop will find it suspicious when you turn around and walk away, unlike the thug, who might leave you alone.
Cops contemptuously refer to us mere mundanes (all non-cop citizens) as “civilians”. This insulting and imperious terminology obtains with all law enforcement organizations — not just your local sheriff’s department and city police.
Here’s a federal Notice of Funding Opportunity (NOFO) in which the US Department of Justice designs to hand out $3 billion to LE agencies of every stripe all across America to hire more cops, buy more ammo and tear gas, etc. In this document, non-cop citizens are denigrated as mere “civilians” no fewer than five times.
https://www.ojp.gov/funding/docs/bja-2026-172656.pdf
>few people dislike firemen or EMS workers. This is probably a function of the fact that they only come when called
That is not exactly true where I live (Corona, CA). CFD has a habit of following ambulances around (which wer actually requested), showing up at the address to which th ambulance was dispatched, doing *ABSOLUTELY* *NOTHING*, and billing the resident $400. Happened to me last April.
I refuse to pay, and have ignored CFD’s threat to “take further action”. Not sure of what they may be capable. I surmise it to be an empty threat.
Hi Adi,
That is obnoxious. And since you neither requested nor needed nor used any “services,” I’d have done as you have and ignore their bills.
Hi Adi,
The firemen are trained to spy and search the patients home during the ambulance visit.
Cops and firemen are butt-buddies. Got some in our family.
Here is are examples of firefighter arrogance which ruined many innocent peoples’ lives:
A firefighter from a certain southeastern Michigan community claimed to have a “arson dog”–one that could detect accelerants. This “firefighter” and his dog were instrumental in ruining many peoples’ lives by his testimony alone.
Insurance companies LOVED this guy as he was able to get them out of paying (valid) claims. People were denied valid insurance claims and prosecuted for arson on the testimony of this “arson dog’s” handler.
Those who were accused of arson by this supposed arson dog’s “handler” had no recourse, because of “qualified immunity”. The firefighter (and fire department) could not be sued.
Finally one citizen who had been accused of arson fought back by suing to prove the “arson dog’s” ability. The dog was found to have NO special ability.
The “arson dog” and his human master’s career was finally over.
How many innocent people were convicted of arson and lost everything they owned?? The arson dog’s owner firefighter retired without incident receiving a full pension.
Another case was that of a plating plant that caught fire. The owners had a fire department “approved” fire plan in place which involved shutting off utilities and shutting down processes in an orderly fashion.
The firefighters that responded to the fire pushed the owner out of the way, and told him that they were going to do things “their way”. The firefighters on scene ignored the fire plan. As a result the building burned to the ground.
A firefighter’s job (for at least 98% of the time) is not inherently dangerous. This does not take away from the seriousness of their job, which is to be commended. but, firefighter arrogance can be just as dangerous as police arrogance. THIS is why firefighters should be included in any abolition of qualified immunity for public officials.
Wonder what happens when walking my dog and it decides to piss on the cops leg. Do they shoot my dog first, or, give me a good ole fashion beatdown? Or, If I’m a black muslim dragging the dog to the halal slaughter man do they let me go on my way? Something in their eyes tells me it’s the first thing.
In this day and age, the cop would shoot the dog, and then arrest you for “assaulting a police officer” via the urine from your dog.
Hey Shadow,
If he cited my dog I would argue the dog is not subject to his law. Any questioning of that, would be taken as disrespect to his Authoritaaaah. In which case I would be under arrest for ‘reasons.’ If I spoke up about probable cause at this point, he would taser me. If I struggled against the tasing, I’d get the club, probably with a bunch of his friends joining in. If I covered my head and defended myself against the clubbing, I would be tossed into the street and shot causing my dog to become an orphan. These procedures collectively make up whats now known as the Rule of Law.
You forgot that while being tased, you would also get charged for “resisting arrest”. “…stop resisting”, they yell at you, as they beat the hell out of you for good measure. But do not count on the officer sparing your dog. They call it “dog duty”, and they have no problems with shooting your dog, as well as you (and the rest of us), just because they can. Not much of a Rule of Law. Reminds me of the Communist crap I grew up with in the then-USSR. Sad how history repeats itself, and never in a good way.
Exactly, Eric.
That’s what I meant in that other post that just because a given behavior is “bad” does not mean they have the authority to ban it, and even if they have the authority does not mean it’s a good idea to do so.
Government will always try to expand any precedent, and there is always some do-gooder who wants his pet peeve to be illegal.
The real problem are the people who said “If you’re doing nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?” And I’m talking about regular everyday people like our family members and co-workers.
Be sure to remind those people that the mantra of ‘nothing to hide, nothing to fear’ was created by propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Yes, that Goebbels.
Wow! I did not know that. It shouldn’t surprise me that a socialist would come up with that. I do believe that a lot of Americans have a socialist mentality, and don’t even know it or will deny it. I also believe America is a socialist country, and has been for a very long time. Just look up the ten plates of Marxism; they are all in play in America today.
“Municipal police departments” are a relatively new phenomenon in the grand scheme of human civilization. This concept of “law enforcement” is beholden to the power structure and not to the citizenry.
In “the good old days”, the “sheriff” was the chief “law enforcement” individual in the county and had broad reign in his respective jurisdiction. When the need arose, ordinary citizens were “deputized” and were given limited “police authority” at the discretion of the “sheriff”. This was used during emergencies when there was a need for “manpower”.
Today, this has morphed into the need for permanently appointed sheriff’s deputies.
In order for a sheriff to be elected (and re-elected) he has to have a good reputation among the citizenry.
Accountability to the citizenry is a major part of the equation.
Fast forward to today, where the “chief of police” in major urban areas is quite often a political “hack” whose allegiance is to the mayor and power structure, not the citizenry. This is a large part of the problem as it fosters an “us vs. them” attitude, where the citizenry (us) is considered to be the “enemy”. It gets worse, as city officials “pull back” their police when they should be doing just the opposite.
The concept of “qualified immunity” for public officials has been expanded to the point that police departments operate with impunity and have no problem abusing their power as the prosecutors, courts, and in general the “system” is heavily stacked against the victim of police abuses. It is almost impossible to sue police departments for abuses committed by their personnel.
Individual police officers cannot be sued as they are “protected” from lawsuits by their official “immunity”. Even with incontrovertible video and audio evidence, police are rarely convicted of crimes. Juror intimidation is a large factor in the inability to reign in the “bad apples”. Police unions play a large part in whitewashing criminal behavior by police.
Immunity negates responsibility and must be abolished across the board.
Let’s not forget the “israelization” of today’s police departments where “escalation of force” has been replaced with israeli-style “command and control” tactics in which immediate compliance with police commands is demanded.
American police departments routinely send their personnel to israel for (free) training in how to handle Palestinians (oops, I mean American citizens) to “see how it’s done”. We are all Palestinians, now…
Problems arise when multiple police officers bark out conflicting commands as in the case of Daniel Shaver being murdered by Mesa Arizona police officer Philip Brailsford for being unable to crawl on his stomach with his hands behind his back–impossible for any human being to do. Google it… In fact, Brailsford was rehired by his police department so that he could apply for and receive a disability pension. The “thin blue line” definitely protects it’s “bad apples”.
Police work is not particularly dangerous. There are many other professions that are more dangerous such as firefighters and electrical line workers.
Pushback is coming with the increased abuses committed by police and the official whitewashing that takes place. Those who attack police see only the uniform and not the person wearing it.
Not a good situation for either police or the citizenry…
Just maybe it is time to abolish municipal police departments and go back to the sheriff model of “law enforcement”.
P,S: If I had my way, “qualified and absolute immunity” for all public officials would be abolished. “Carve-outs” which give police and others exemptions from laws that “the rest of us” are expected to follow would be abolished as well. “Subdued graphics” such as dull black lettering on a shiny black police car would also be outlawed.
Just my two cents…
I expect brickbats for this post with the accusation put forth that I am “soft on illegal aliens”. Nothing could be further from the truth…
ICE is but a precursor of what Israel has planned for us “goyim”. It’s not about illegal aliens but is about getting the American public used to seeing IDF soldiers on American city streets.
The IDF and other high-level Israelis already hold key positions within American law enforcement agencies and the USA military.
We are all Palestinians now…
All senior federal government law enforcement officials have ties to and owe their allegiance to Israel–not to the USA.
Until recently, the Department of Homeland Security website listed its location as Tel Aviv, Israel.
ICE operates under Israeli “rules of engagement”, NOT USA Constitutional principles.
EVERY federal law enforcement agency has sent trainers on “free” trips to Israel to “see how it’s done”, practicing on Palestinians.
What we are witnessing in real time in today’s ICE and other law enforcement agencies actions are Israeli military tactics being utilized in real time on American soil.
One such aspect of israeli control of USA law enforcement is the increasing use of obscuration and outright refusal to display identification.
ICE agents have not only refused to identify themselves but hide their required identification and utilize face coverings to further prevent themselves from being identified just as the IDF does in occupied Palestine.
ICE agents operate with impunity, snatching citizens off the street, illegally holding them in detention centers, sometimes for months while refusing to accept valid identification from their victims, the same tactics being used against Palestinians in Israel, Gaza and the West Bank. Habeas corpus, the requirement to present the individual arrested to a court is conveniently absent.
ICE uses administrative warrants in violation of the Constitution, using them to gain entry to residences—totally unconstitutional. Judicial warrants are required to gain access to a residence.
ICE is being utilized by our Israeli-controlled federal government to get the citizenry used to seeing masked, unidentifiable, armed military personnel on our streets.
It’s all by design…
P. S: Wait till the USA military is fully integrated with Israel’s military forces. The leaders of the USA military will all be Israelis. There will then be no hesitation for the Israeli military embedded within the USA to fire on American citizens.
Little dark, but there are a few seeds of truth.
“We are all Palestinians now.”
Horse puckey. Pull up a picture of the border between Egypt and Gaza. Walls 10-20′ tall, at least two chain link fences topped with concertina, around 7 runs of concertina total. Much more secure than Gaza-Israel. Egyptians really do not want Palestinians getting in.
Do you really believe Americans are hated enough that someone would put up fortifications like that to keep us out?
You speak of fortifications, I speak of BEHAVIOR based on the jewish supremacist model that is presently being used in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and everywhere else the filthy jews have their hands in…
Observe ICE agents masking and wearing identical uniforms to that of the IDF, obscuring their identities which is totally un-American.
ICE and every other American federal agency and police department receives training in israeli military tactics.
We are already jew-occupied territory…
We speak the same thing. The behavior of Palestinians is so awful their own tribesman want nothing to do with them. King Hussein of Jordan showed them some mercy, letting them live in the West Bank, and in characteristic thankfulness, they tried to overthrow him. No one with a lick of common sense will let them into their country. Which means, of course Obama and Biden brought in as many as they could sneak in.
Would I prefer the feds dropped back to Article I Section 8 powers? Yes. Ideally much less than that. Eric and others have recommended shutting off all aid to illegals, and they will go home on their own. Officially, that’s already the law. Every time Trump has tried withholding funds to states who are breaking that law, judges slap him down. What’s the answer? Become a populist tyrant, like Bukele, and remove the judges unilaterally? But Trump is already literally Hitler…
Not that I’m saying it’s a bad idea. Whatever you call a bunch of lawyers in dresses who won’t obey the law, let alone fairly apply it, it’s not a justice system. The only question is whether the man at the helm has the character to step down once the crisis is past.
“The behavior of Palestinians is so awful their own tribesman want nothing to do with them.”
Ever hear of “Nakba”, genius? If I went through that, my behavior would be bad, too.
How the hell do you guys know so much about musloid middle east, and at the same time so little?
Steve,
Interesting that you call them “Musloids.” Would you call the Israelis kikes? I merely point out the habitual double standard.
What do I know about the “Musloid” Middle East? Well, I know the “Musloids” in Iran didn’t start this war.
The “Musloids” didn’t start the war against Iraq, either. And I doubt the “Musloids” did Nahhhhhhhhnnnnellleven. The “Musloids” are a bogeyman created by certain interests, who are very interested in fomenting hysteria and conflating the interests of a certain state with those of the United States.
It worked for decades. It is no longer working.
Eric, I called them “musloids, not “Musloids”. I try to be very particular about which groups I dignify with capitalization.
I have on this very page. More precisely, I’ve used it to refer to jews. When someone was referring to a new anti-discrimination law about what you could say on-line. I also added hebe, hook-nose, shyster, shylock, and even added in Life of Brian’s Red Sea pedestrian for good measure.
But WTF? Why do so few engage in discussion of ideas, instead nitpicking a bunch of ad hominems? Or pointless digressions? Not that “They aren’t like that,” but “There’s a good reason they are like that.”
Did the palis demonstrate their gratitude to the host country of Jordan? No, they tried to overthrow the country. How about when Egypt offered them the couch? Nope, they tried to start a civil war. All of them? Of course not. But enough of them that no one in theater is willing to risk letting any in.
Steve,
It is not “nit-picking ad hominem” to point out hypocrisy. You endlessly defend the state of Israel by downplaying or not even mentioning what it does while at the same time deriding Arab/Muslim states that (objectively) constitute far less of a threat to this country – to the world – than the state of Israel. The most egregious recent example being your comment about how many Americans Iran has killed in this war that we started. As if the poor waifs were just randomly murdered; you know – like the 150 Iranian “musloid” schoolgirls killed by the US.
PS: You will note I don’t refer to people who happen to be Jewish as “kikes.” That would be wrong, for the same reason it’s wrong to refer to people who happen to be Muslim as “musloids.”
Cue the Lee Greenwood song.
Nah, kikes is fine. We really need to bring that one back.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but when a dog goes mean, starts biting people and shows no sign of changing, you just gotta put him down.
Hi Steve,
Yes. Netanyahu being one of those.
Put ’em down just like the dirty Amalek! Right Zio-Steve?
You’ve really revealed yourself in this comment section, huh? You miserable bastard. Now that’s how you justify genocide.
Steve, You tell so many lies about Palestinians–seem like an Israeli Bot. Iraqis and Syrians were both wanting to overthrow Jordan’s king who isn’t a Palestinian but Hashemite installed (just like the Sauds who run a “country” named after them) by the British.
“One of the PLO’s arguments after September was that many of these incidents were purposely provoked by small groups in the PLO that were in actuality Jordanian intelligence agents, whose only objective was to wreak havoc in the country to give the army an excuse to attack.
“It sounds like a wild conspiracy theory at first glance, but there is proof to substantiate it:
“On 4 November 1968, a PLO group known as the “Victory Battalions” (Kataeb an-Nasr) kidnapped a royal guardsman, which led to Jordanian troops of the Palace Guard shelling the three Palestinian refugee camps of Wahdat, Jebel Hussein, and Schneller in Amman. In addition, Jordanian Special Forces entered the Palestinian neighbourhood of Ashrafiyeh as a show of strength, where they proceeded to massacre a few dozen residents.
“It was revealed that an-Nasr had been a Palace-sponsored faction the entire time. It seemed to be a false flag operation.
“It turned out that the Jordanian Mukhabarat (intelligence service) had established a “Special Branch” in order to infiltrate the fedayeen and act as agents provocateurs.
“It was even discovered that the Special Branch was planning to extend its operations to Lebanon in order to trigger a destabilising effect there as well amidst the PLO’s clashes with the Lebanese Army.
“But most sinister was the reveal of a Special Branch plot to assassinate prominent guerilla leaders, including George Habash and even Yasser Arafat himself.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1gfta9o/did_the_plo_really_try_and_overthrow_the/
The casualty figures for Black September do not suggest PLO posed much of a threat to the Jordanian puppet whose army was funded by the west: “Conservative/Historian Estimates: Widely cited historical records, including Wikipedia’s Black September entry, place Palestinian killed at approximately 3,400.Higher Estimates: Palestinian sources, including statements from Yasser Arafat at the time and various journalists, estimated deaths between 5,000 and 10,000—with some extreme estimates reaching up to 25,000.
“Jordanian Military Casualties. Jordanian Armed Forces: Official figures report around 537 killed during the active fighting against the fedayeen (Palestinian guerrilla fighters) and Syrian intervention forces.”
You can download an article here which relates the intelligence operation Jordanians ran so that Iraqi Army in Jordan would not support the PLO when Jordan attacked them.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/fifty-years-after-black-september-in-jordan/
The 1972 Munich Olympics attack was the Hannibal Directive in action which was quite successful in demonizing the PLO.
I wonder what our resident jewish apologist has to say about the jews murdering their own brethren to achieve political objectives. Hey Stevie…what say you?
Traditionally, sheriff’s offices have used a seven pointed star for their badge of office.
Examples:
https://wp.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/
https://www.chp.ca.gov
I live in Riverside County, the inland county adjacent to San Bernardino County.
Riverside County sheriff uses a six pointed star, otherwise known as the Star of David.
https://www.riversidesheriff.org
Draw your own conclusions.
Sort of. Mostly true on the Pacific coast. Most of the rest of the country use the “standard” of 5 points for the sheriff, 6 points for the deputies. See, for example, owlbadges.com
https://www.bernco.gov/bernalillo-county-sheriff/
https://www.sandovalcountynm.gov/elected-officials/scso/
https://www.azdps.gov
https://www.suffolkcountysheriffsoffice.com
(Boston, MA)
https://www.mercercounty.org/government/sheriff/uniformed-personnel
(Trenton & Princeton, NJ)
https://njsp.njoag.gov
https://rocklandsheriffny.gov
(downstate New York)
https://www.badgeandwallet.com/badges/custom/state-specific/texas
https://www.badgeandwallet.com/badges/custom/state-specific/florida
https://www.badgeandwallet.com/badges/custom/state-specific/kentucky
There are, what 3,000 counties? In hopefully a quick search, you found 6 that run counter to what owlbadges.com was the general rule. Say there are 50 more for every one you found. We are up to 10%. Wouldn’t 9/10 be enough for owlbadges qualifier of “mostly” to be a valid generalization?
I’m not saying they are right. I’m saying I don’t have the data (or, frankly, the interest) to prove they are making something up. Since you do, have fun.
For the record, there is no “star of David”. That’s just some jew bs the demons made up. David wasn’t a jew, he was a Hebrew / Israelite (something jews are not), and the so-called “star of David” has absolutely NO MENTION in the Bible whatsoever, least of all in Psalms.
There only “star” mentioned in scripture that has anything to do with the “jews” is the star of Remphan. As in, Acts 7:43.
Remphan is the devil.
Ive watched typically ignorant women subtly brainwash toddlers with “cop good” for over half a century. This taproot isnt getting pulled anytime soon.
So lemme play a little “devil’s advocate” here, or “boot licker” -to try and make a point. I think one of the greatest benefits of today’s society is that it is a high trust society, and specifically the order it brings. Examples abound, like stuff for sale *past* the checkout counter in the grocery store. The rules of the road, certainly pertinent to this blog. My question would be to what extent with the police writing BS tickets like this, contribute to the high trust and orderly society that we all enjoy and benefit from?
As far as “rules of the road” go, a counter may be to think about southeast asia (i.e. Vietnam, etc.) with all those pictures of chaotic traffic. Obviously, no cops there. How do all those guys get along? Closest I ever experienced that was driving thru Times Square at 9:00PM on a Saturday nite. Talk about chaos! But all the traffic was moving along, and there were just too many people swarming that area to be policed at all.
Overall, I do agree with the treatise of this article. Whenever I see someone pulled over in morning rush hour, WHEN EVERYONE IS JUST TRYING TO GO TO WORK, I often say to myself, “And they wonder why they’re hated”.
In the major cities in Vietnam, pedestrians walk right through motorcycle traffic without incident. The motorcyclists go around the pedestrians. It looks chaotic but is not so in the least. The key is not to stop in the middle of the intersection.
Cops are trash.
There are a lot of young female police officers, and some males too, who are afraid of pulling over cars with rough characters in them. All cops know to stay away from the wealthy unless called. Their safest target is people who have to work for a living, so that is who they focus on. The police focus on jamming up members of the segment of society that obeys and fears the law. Legalism is a dangerous problem. The legal system has nothing to do with justice, in fact, respect for the law can only proven by heeding and accepting unjust outcomes. But then the education system is concerned with controlling (limiting) what and how people think, not unleashing minds to meet maximum potential. And the goal of “healthcare” is for everyone visit the doctor on a regular basis and take pills daily, not be healthy.
Oh my goodness. Never heard that argument before. What you say is frightening! And true. I agree wholeheartedly with you. I also say to myself, “I’m a rich white guy and I fear the police!”. However, my latest *professional* interaction was not bad at all: Just got my “payin’ paper” and went on my way. But that was exactly the situation you just described!!!
“ The legal system has nothing to do with justice “
Absolutely correct! And worse in the left coast states, here in WA they’re all in on ‘equity in policing’ and ‘restorative justice’. Buddy was, in the past, a lawyer & he flat out said “justice in this state is purely by accident”.
Anyway the net result is thugs get 8 to 12 for crimes whereas in the past they’d be swinging from a rope. Works great for the divide and conquer goals of the elite.
In today’s America, and in many other parts of the world, the process is the punishment. Selective prosecution is a major problem in this country. BLM and Antifa types who have committed crimes are ignored while innocents who defend themselves (but are of the wrong political persuasion) are charged with crimes.
Witness Daniel Penny who was being viciously prosecuted in NYC for saving fellow subway passengers from mentally ill Jordan Neely who had been harassing and threatening subway passengers for decades. Thankfully, he was acquitted.
The case of the NYC bodega owner, Jose Alba who successfully thwarted a knife attack, his attacker succumbing to his injuries, was under indictment and prosecution for murder until a groundswell of opposition forced the prosecutor to back off on prosecuting him.
The case of Bernie Goetz, the NYC subway rider who thwarted being robbed by dispatching four of his attackers to the hospital. Subway crimes dropped dramatically after that act. If Goetz had kept his mouth shut, no one would have been the wiser.
Being charged with a crime, the indictment, the arraignment and trial are all a part of the punishment. Even if the case is dismissed, the damage, the difficult days, the threat of fines, incarceration and legal bills, and the uncertainty of what comes next are all punishments.
“Anyone who is not an anarchist agrees with having a policeman at the corner of the street; but the danger at present is that of finding the policeman half-way down the chimney or even under the bed.”
― G.K. Chesterton, “What I Saw in America”
Why do so many hate the police?
When called for assistance, they often will not show up in time or do not want to take action that requires paperwork for what they consider minor infractions.
Yet their numbers are so out of proportion to actual criminal investigation and response needs that they find themselves with extra time on their hands. What to do?
They fill that time with “monitoring” activities. What they monitor tends to be traffic. Traffic offenses require very little work. Observe a violation, write a ticket. 15 minutes of activity breaks the boredom.
Sure, that’s annoying to a supposed offender who did not violate anyone’s rights or cause damage or injury. What people actually are mad about is that their ability to make their own decision has been stripped.
Why come to a 2 second stop at a sign if there is no other traffic? Why not drive faster if conditions allow it? Who cares if 1 of my 3 brake lights are out? Or I didn’t turn on my lights with my windshield wipers on a bright day in a minor shower?
Adding insult to injury is how people are treated when violating no one else’s rights. Often people are badgered, talked down to, or treated like a felon. People don’t like to be controlled, especially when they don’t think they did anything wrong.
Didn’t do anything wrong you say? Doesn’t matter. Some police just make things up or lie about what the law says.
Modern American policing is quite akin to bullying. The police choose to do this and they earn the hate of their fellow citizens.
Around here the cops are so lazy they just sit around at traffic lights and scan the stopped cars for expired saaaaafety stickers, don’t even have to chase them down whike they write out “tickets” aka revenue for them.
The main reason policing is a problem is that government is only really good at one thing. Killing people, but it doesn’t want the blood on it’s hands.
Remember, The Law™ is subject to change. Unlike the laws of nature, which are fixed (imagine waking up tomorrow and finding that King Canute’s order to halt the tides was now law), the laws of man are constantly adjusted, tweaked or nullified. So last week when you were caught with a half-lid in your jacket? Better call Saul. This week? No problem, citizen. Enjoy! Mind if I take a hit off that?
What about that guy who’s locked up? Well, he broke the law. The law changing doesn’t undo the crime. Even when it was a crime the enforcement was arbitrary. Gravity is bitch no matter where you go (although some places have more of it than others).
I drove the Electric Brae in that list last week. Unless you stop and put the car in neutral you don’t see the illusion. There are signs warning of stopped cars before you reach the section. I’ve seen it work while on a bus many years ago.
I’d like to interject a small dose of reality here for those that long for the “old days” when the “police” seemed like they were our “friends”.
Those days don’t exist, and they are a figment of your imagination. Anyone that believes this is a clear victim of Stockholm Syndrome. The police were, perhaps, less militant in the past, however, their origins, their TRUE origins, have literally NOTHING to do with protecting the people at large or in general.
Police Departments were started in big cities (Boston, I believe, was the first) and the ENTIRETY of their purpose was to protect the power of big business and industry (in many cases, big jewish business, but not always) and, secondarily, the power of the state. At no point in the history of the “police” has any benevolent, angelic saint created a police department to protect the people. It has never happened in the past, it clearly isn’t now, and never will be in the future. Point blank, the police have ALWAYS been the enemy of the people and the source of the state’s monopoly on violence. Any view that identifies them as the “friends” of the people is 100% incorrect. This isn’t subjective, either, it’s supported by supreme court decisions…several of them, in fact:
Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005): The Supreme Court ruled 7–2 that a woman had no constitutional or procedural due process right to police enforcement of a restraining order, even when the order used mandatory language directing officers to arrest violators.
DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989): The Supreme Court held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not impose a special duty on the state/government to provide members of the public with adequate protective services, ruling that the state had no constitutional duty to protect a young boy from severe abuse by his father.
And my favorite:
Warren v. District of Columbia (1981): Frequently cited alongside these supreme court cases, a D.C. local appellate court established the “public duty doctrine,” affirming that the general duty of police is to protect the public at large rather than specific individuals, unless a “special relationship” (such as a person being actively held in police custody) is created. Which is to say that the police have, IN GENERAL, a “duty to protect”, but can’t be sued for failure of this. Literally, you can call the police screaming bloody murder and they can simply not respond, and even if it results in your death, THEY CAN’T BE SUED.
Everything we hate – open borders, streams of browns, LGBTQ crap in schools (and everywhere else), brainwashing in schools, property taxes, feminism, globalism, satanism, jews, corporate protection rackets, zero accountability for big pharma or Epstein island perps, and a few dozen other things I could mention, ARE WHAT THE POLICE ACTIVELY PROTECT. If you go try to smash a few heads at an LGBTQ, Antifa, or BLM rally? It’s the POLICE that will protect THEM from YOU. They will, of course, watch you get your head smashed with glee. Because the “police” do exactly what they’re told, when they’re told. And that’s what they’re told to do.
They have a test in place that all police take called the MMPI, or Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Index. It’s what they CLAIM is to prevent “crazy cops from running around with guns”. We’ve all seen enough to know that the reason we’re given for the MMPI must be totally false, and it is.
The MMPI actually tests for people who have below-average empathy (empathizing with the people whose lives you’re about to ruin isn’t productive) and who have below-average intelligence. They want people who are just smart enough to fill out the paperwork and drive the cars, but who aren’t smart enough to figure out what they’re doing is unlawful or unconstitutional. This is why if you ask any (and I do mean ANY) police officer out there what other skills they have, they will have NONE. There are no cops out there that are doctors, engineers, carpenters, machinists, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, teachers, chemists, or anything else. Cops have zero skills outside of following orders and giving abuse to people. The notion that they ‘work for us’ or are ‘duty bound to protect us’ is a complete falsehood and this is backed up by both case law as well as innumerable JewTube videos.
The police aren’t our friends. The police have NEVER been our friends. Everyone that thinks that, welcome to FINALLY waking up from your Stockholm Syndrome DELUSION. That’s all it has ever been, a delusion. They are the monopolistic arbiters of violence and misery, and they are in place to keep US under control. Period. Always have been, always will be.
I’m sad that it’s taken the last few decades of reality to wake the rest of you up to what I’ve known all along, but at the very least, I’m glad you finally woke up to the fact you’re drowning and have been able to climb in the boat. I only hope it’s not too late to stop it from sinking.
My understanding is that the origin of the police was to protect the rich from the poor, like how they were depicted in Godfather 2 and Gangs of New York, and MI5 and CIA are City of London/banker creations.
Exactly. This is what they have been since the very beginning, and it continues to this very day.
“… if you ask any (and I do mean ANY) police officer out there what other skills they have, they will have NONE. There are no cops out there that are doctors, carpenters, machinists, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, teachers, chemists, or anything else.Cops have zero skills outside of following orders and giving abuse to people.’
I have known some exceptions. Starting with my Dad, who was a State Trooper from about 1951 until his (then) mandatory retirement at age 55 in 1975.
Before he became a trooper at about age 30 he had been something of a jack of all trades. He was a reader. He subscribed to multiple periodicals including Popular Mechanics and Popular Science.
He was a pretty fair carpenter, mechanic, electrician, and plumber.He was quite good at repairing things, and at making things.
He continued to be after his retirement in 1975. In the spring of 1976 he single-handedly built a new room onto our house. He enclosed the carport and turned it and what had been the utility room into a sort of combination TV room or family room and laundry room.
He did all the carpentry, bricklaying. roofing, wiring, and plumbing himself. And it all worked fine.
The following year he went to work at first one, then another local tobacco “re-dryer” (processing plant) as a general handyman, and stayed on in that capacity until 1985 or 1986.
He was an extravagantly kindly man. He once once spent a big part of a day at work freeing a puppy that had gotten its head trapped inside a ceramic pipe.
During his trooper days (c.1951-1975) he was known for NOT being a hardass. When he saw someone broken down on the side of the road with car trouble he would stop and help them, or try to. *Not* just to look for something to bust them for.(Maybe that’s why he never attained any higher rank than just a road trooper.)
He never shot anyone, and only fired his weapon (a riot shotgun) on two occasions. Once a warning shot over the heads of a mob of striking miners who were advancing on him (he was alone) with various clubs, pickaxes, etc. They say warning shots are no good, but in this case it got the desired effect : they backed off.
The other time was when he help[ed provide suppressing fire at a barricaded gunman as paramedics were going to get a wounded sheriff’s deputy lying on the porch of the man who had shot him. The guy later shot himself.
Meanwhile my grandfather, *his* father-in-law, who could be described as a gentleman farmer, had been with the old Highway Patrol before it became the Kentucky State Police in 1948, then became the sheriff of the adjacent county in the late 1950s (around the time I was born).
As sheriff he never wore any sort of uniform, much less combat fatigues. He just wore a suit and tie and hat. He had a gun — a snubnosed .38 revolver — but he kept it concealed under his coat. You had to be doing something *real* bad to ever see it. As far as I know he was well-respected.
I remember him as a humble, unassuming, even self-effacing man. Altogether rather like the sheriff in the film version of _To Kill A Mockingbird_.
One of his other son’s-in -law, my uncle, was his head deputy. In private life he was a butcher, and a good one.
So, I grew up in a cop household, or cop family. Neither my Dad, my grandfather, nor my uncle were ever abusive toward me. I guess that gave me a different perspective on things.I spent some of the happiest days of childhood and youth on my grandfather’s farm, or estate, if you want to call it that.
Much of it was wooded, valuable old growth timber, but he never let it be logged. He wanted to hunt there.The rest of his acreage was alternately used to plant crops (corn, soybeans, etc,) and to graze cattle on. He rented the land out to others for that.
He had not much formal education but was literate and had many books, including a set of encyclopedias.
So in my childhood and youth I was viewed rather askance by my schoolmates, who by the early or mid-1970s were nearly all potheads.
I was not. And to me cops were not alien or exotic or threatening. I was regarded as altogether *too* friendly with a few of the local city cops. Yes, I really *did* have cop friends, or at least friendly acquaintances.
Therefore I was generally considered to be a “narc,” and as such to be not only shunned and ostracized by, well, *everyone*, but also fair game for all manner of bullying, harassment, vandalism and sabotage of my car once I had one, and even not-infrequent violent attacks on my person by complete strangers, who I assume were put up to it with cash or pot bribes, or sexual favors.
All that gave me different perspective too.
But, I am told that one should never argue a principle based from his own case
However, around 1986-1987 I ceased to have any cop friends anymore. I hadn’t changed — *they* had. These guys were nothing at all like my Dad, grandfather, or uncle, or the few cop friends I’d had earlier.
And these days I feel about the same as you and Eric about them. I have as little as humanly possible to do with them.
The most “anti-cop” people I’ve known are the former cops who see what cops have become.
Yes. I guess that’s me. I’ll be 70 in January and until pretty recently people still asked why I never tried to follow my father’s footsteps into some sort of law enforcement job or career. The simplest answer is: I just didn’t want to. So many of the laws on the books seemed so wrong — so stupid or even evil. Why would I want any part of enforcing them?
Yeah, I was a sort of “rent-a-cop” once in 1979. But I had no real powers of arrest beyond what any citizen has. I was not authorized to be armed. And 90-plus percent of what I did could be described as a night watchman or gate keeper.
Dead on correct sir, sad but true. Stripmining the Goyim down to the last dollar.
“Psychopathic authoritarianism”. Hat tip to the author who coined that phrase.
Sure, you always had cops that loved any chance to give a wood shampoo but, it was Ronald Reagan that said, “Hold my beer”.
When he enacted his version of the war on some drugs he hooked the military up with local cops. The 1033 program broke down the barriers. It gave us, as Radly Balko wrote decades ago, The Rise of the Warrior Cop.
Here’s a primer for your edification…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarization_of_police
Then after 9/11 and the War on Terror™ as the troops came back they got pushed to the front of the line for civil policing. Many of them were trained as MPs or to guard a position in an “urban” environment. But that environment was also an active war zone, with guerrilla warriors in plain clothes doing the fighting, IEDs disguised to look like trash piles, and constant reports of random attacks on convoys and troop movements. All that big iron hardware was worthless. All the bombing and infrastructure elimination didn’t stop them.
Now bring that guy home, put him in a bad part of LA or Chicago (with a lot of trash laying around, gang warfare, and basically everything but you being the target) and that’s got to weigh on you. And like the war, you’re not allowed to take action until HQ (CENTCOM, Dispatch) says so.
“Just following orders” didn’t hold up at Nuremberg, but it does in the US.
The Reagan administration introduced so much authoritarian bad shit it is hard to know where to start yet so many “conservatives” still pretty much worship the man. While locking up hundreds of thousands of US citizens for possession of of small amounts of drugs the government did not approve of, it was also IMPORTING many of said drugs to fund its favored mercenaries abroad-the Contras, the Mujahadeen, and how many we don’t know about.
The US has been an authoritarian nightmare going back to the Prohibition era if not before but only now is more than a small minority waking up to it.
From what I understand, the War On (some) Drugs™ was started by Nixon. Many say as payback for not fighting in Vietnam. Some say because draft age young men wouldn’t fight because of the drugs.
They won’t go fight? Bring the war to them, I guess.
It really started with the Pure Food & Drug Act of 1906. It criminalized opiates and created prescriptioning. It was a Progressive Era Crown Jewel. GovCo now controls “drugs”…even though opium is a natural plant.
And that’s what really drives it all, the criminalization of roughly a half-dozen naturally occurring plants. It’s practically a given that any chemical compound that anyone can whip up is subject to control by Fed GovCo if it can alter one’s mental state. Where that authority is established in the sacred Constitution is anyone’s guess.
Erhlichman was quoted as admitting the Drug War was a scam, a way to punish Nixon’s political enemies, namely, blacks and the antiwar counterculture.
Nixon may have started the War on Drugs but the Reagan administration put it into hyperdrive. So “Just Say No” while the administration’s favorite mercenaries a/k/a the “Contras” are running cocaine in cooperation with the CIA? Laws don’t seem to matter when it is the government favored entities doing it.
Back in the day… (we used to have paper dl’s, I’m an old fart)… you were having conversations with the law when contacted… discretion, not ‘hut hut hut’…
I miss the peace officers… sigh
Hi Howard,
Yup – and it wasn’t all that long ago. What changed? Well, policing got militarized. Cops are encouraged to regard all of us “civilians” as “threats to their safety.” They dress like SEALs and when you LARP, you tend to LARP. Only in this case, the guns are real. Also, of course, the laws have become petty and tyrannical. Back in 1980 if you weren’t a criminal or doing something to cause a cop to legitimately think you might be – you were unworried about cops because they generally didn’t hassle people who weren’t crimninals. Maybe you got pulled over for “speeding,” sure. But that was understood to be a petty and generally bullshit offense and the cops didn’t treat you like a criminal over that. You could argue with them, even – and it was unheard of them for to draw a gun on you for arguing over a traffic ticket. You didn’t have to “buckle up” and they couldn’t hassle you if you didn’t. You could even drink a beer on the way home and that wasn’t cause for a Hut! Hut! Hutting!
I disagree about the “good ol’ days” when the cops were supposedly the “good guys.”
Maybe that was true in some jurisdictions, like the fictional Mayberry. But big city cops were notoriously corrupt. Framing people was commonplace. Cops carrying a “drop gun” in the event they shot someone who turned out to be unarmed was routine. Beating the fuck out of people was routine. So was taking bribes. Cops absolutely put innocent people in prison for decades on circumstantial “evidence” and speculation before DNA analysis at crime scenes became common.
When Teddy Roosevelt was head of the NYC Board of Police Commissioners he made fighting corruption a Number One priority. That was in 1895.
The Serpico case and the Knapp Commission of the 1970s was proof that TR had failed.
What is different today is that there are more cops, so they are more difficult to avoid, and they are more highly paid and their departments are lavishly funded. Police bureaucracies are more entrenched and yes, militarized. Back in the day cops were low-paid political hacks who got their jobs due to nepotism or political connections. The only restraining factor was the bad press that their political benefactors would get if they went too far, so it was up to the political machines to keep them in line, not the courts.
Remember, that prior to the criminal justice cases of the 1950s and 1960s like Miranda, the cops could (and did) use pressure tactics and beat the fuck out of you to coerce false confessions, deny you a lawyer, obtain evidence without a warrant, and eavesdrop on phone calls at the old telephone switchboards.
Back in the day cops carried brass knuckles and saps and would break your skull if you lipped off to them.
The cops weren’t so great back in the day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Serpico
Hi X,
To be clear, I never said that cops were “good guys.” I merely said that I can remember when they weren’t tatted-up, jacked-up, suited-up thugs itching to escalate to murder over a traffic ticket. They were agents of the state, no doubt – but for the most part, the interactions were kind of like interacting with any other government bureaucrat. Not pleasant, of course. But far from the screaming at you/guns pointed at you Hut! Hut! Hut! of today.
True. They were meatheaded goons serving urban political machines in patronage appointments, but at least that to observe the pretense of decorum to keep up apprerances for their political masters.
Kinda like the way even the Mafia hit men wore suits and ties and dress shoes.
After all… what is government, but the biggest Mafia racket of all?
Actually once you paid your tribute to your Mafia neighborhood boss, they left you alone. Government NEVER leaves you alone…
True anarchyst,
I would much rather be ruled by the Mafia, they just wanted money, not to micromanage your life.
One. Hundred. Percent. Correct.
>Cops are encouraged to regard all of us “civilians”
It is telling that *CIVILIAN* LEOs refer to private citizens as “civilians”, thereby implying they regard themselves as military.
Monkey “think”, monkey do.
My really short, red-haired, freckled classmate’s laminated paper DL said he was 27 years old in 11th grade, after he took a xerox of his birth certificate and one or two other documents to the Greensboro, NC, DMV, in 1987. Everybody laughed at the name he chose – Joe Lee Fox. But DMV caught on pretty soon after and xeroxes were not allowed. Our fake IDs weren’t fake though.