I came across a video of a fatal chase that took place in West Virginia last summer. Fatal, that is, to the guy on the bike and the passenger he was carrying.
According to the narrative, it all began when an armed government worker attempted to get the bike to “pull over” – the bland-sounding euphemism used to describe being ordered to stop by an armed government worker – on account of “improper display of identification.” Meaning, the bike lacked its ear tag, which American cattle have been conditioned to refer to as license plates.
Lacking an ear tag is something for which a person can be pursued by an armed government worker, as if it were a criminal act. That is to say, as if someone had been harmed by someone else not displaying their ear tag. The saddest part is that many American cattle support this. Just as they – many of them – support the pursuit (and punishment) of what are styled “tax cheats,” by which is meant the “crime” of not handing over your own money to the government. This is pure evil genius, this getting of the victim to side with his (and everyone else’s) abuser.
Anyhow, the biker – who appeared to be just out for a ride – was not displaying the required ear tag. We see the AGW following behind or awhile before he attempts to pull him over. The biker knew that pulling over likely would have meant the probability of his property (his bike) being seized on account of no ear tags plus the certainty of numerous “citations” (i.e., demands that he pay money to the government) as well his probable arrest. Since he didn’t want to end up in a cage – or have his property seized and his money filched – he chose to make a run for it. This is something that almost no one would fault anyone else for doing when confronted by a banditti of any other stripe. But when it is a government banditti, the roles are reverse – and the person attempting to “flee” (note the gaslighting verbiage) becomes the “criminal.”
So the biker tried to get away from his pursuer and – despite being on a Harley, a type of bike not renowned for its athleticism – managed to lose the armed government worker.
This is a “crime” far worse than merely not displaying ear tags. It is styled “eluding” and naturally, it is a felony – the most serious type of crime. Imagine that! It is like faulting a cow for trying to bound over the fence when he sees the rancher coming to take him to the place where they make hamburger.
The AGW was determined not to let his prey get away. He drove at high speed, often in the opposing lane of traffic, in blind curves, on a winding country road with what appears to be a 35 MPH speed limit, attempting to catch up. Even when he can no longer see the bike, he continues the pursuit, at one point driving at probably at least twice the 35 MPH speed limit through a small town. This sort of driving would get anyone else arrested for reckless driving. Unlike the failure to display an ear tag, the AGW’s “hot pursuit” could have ended up causing serious harm. Someone – a child perhaps – could have been run over in that small town by the recklessly driving AGW. Someone might have pulled out from a side street right into the path of the AGW.
There could easily have been a fatal accident – which would not have been accidental, since the AGW was deliberately driving in an extremely reckless fashion.
All because he just had to catch the biker for not displaying his ear tag.
Well, he got his man – as well as someone else. After another little bit of Hot Pursuit driving, the AGW catches up to the biker and his passenger, who are found dead in the road. The biker lost control in a curve and wrecked.
Was justice served?
Both of those people would still be alive – would have enjoyed their ride and had a nice day, that day – were it not for the Hot Pursuit over the absent ear tag. But he should have pulled over! Some will say that. That is what people conditioned to serfdom say. A free man is someone who does not have to wear an ear tag, who is free to go about his business unmolested by a banditti in the employ of a government that requires him to display an ear tag. 
Did George Washington have to display “tags” on his horse? Why is it that we have to display them? Well, because things have changed. More finely, our status has changed. George Washington was a free man. We’re not. Worse, many of us imagine we are “free” – when in fact we’re free to to do as we’re told, which is not quite the same thing.
Some will say the law is the law and it must be obeyed. This is Talmudism. It is the idea that legalism is morality; that right and wrong are synonymous with legal and illegal. Libertarianism argues that an action (or inaction) is only wrong – in the moral sense – if someone is harmed as a result. In other words, it is the harm that defines the crime.
By that standard, failing to display an ear tag is like failing to wear socks; it is a “crime” only according to Talmudic code. The real crime is the enforcing of this Talmudic code – no matter how many people are harmed in the process.
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Dr. Jerry Pournelle often spoke of this sort of situation. As he put it, every law that is passed potentially has a death sentence attached. Most people seem incapable of understanding that.
Darren Monroe Politics says Trump is throwing Bondi under the bus:
PAM BONDIS BEING IMPEACHED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imem1y63lVg
if you work for Trump you gotta be thinking of bailing, the guy is a dangerous compromised lunatic.
Hi Jack,
I won’t be surprised in Trump dumps Bondi; she’s an over-ripe aging tart and it’s showing. He’ll get someone younger and riper to take her place.
Me at 70 I wouldn’t mind seeing her rockin the pole, senior night at the Kinky Kitten Klub. As A.G. not so much.
“When you’re thru lookin’, you’re though”
St. Sparkules
(The Commander does not approve this message)
though = through
now get off my lawn.
I have such mixed thoughts/feelings about this. A high speed chase over no tags is wrong. Period. Driving through that little hamlet at high speed is wrong. Most LE do not have the skills to drive their vehicles at high speed safely. Running from a cop on a Harley, or any motorcycle but a sport bike, is foolish. To top it I got pulled over today for 74 in a 65, I was driving 70 but it’s easy for my vehicle to go faster if I don’t pay attention. And I was looking at stuff off the road. I did not get a ticket, the officer (State Trooper) was professional.
Insert big ‘Sigh’ here. The officer should not have chased, but the biker should not have run. 2 are dead. And the officer is gonna have to live with that ‘scene’ burned into his mind for the rest of his life.
With that being said. LE are the strong arm of the State… and the State is evil, anti-human, and parasitic.
RE: “The officer should not have chased, but the biker should not have run.”
A.k.a., The mouse, should have stopped, to be eaten by the cat?
For of course, All mice, must obey, The Cat.
No cat, chases a mouse which does not flee. All mice, must obey.
Fuggin’ dog eat dog world.
The law, is dead.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/03/ct-rossi/the-law-is-dead/
My thoughts are similar, Kong –
The core problem here, as I see it, is this business of creating “offenses” that are purely pedantic legalisms involving no harm to anyone and then empowering enforcement thereof. If we had peace officers rather than law enforcement, this sort of thing would just not happen – because peace officers do not enforce ear tag laws.
Those armed govt workers have little to no conscience. Standards began dropping in the 1980s so that thugs and emotional womyn could hold “law enforcement” positions. They go home and recall that if that person had just obeyed him/her that person would still be alive. Oops, oh, well.
Remember that several places have done away with “hi-pursuit”, but you can still get away with it.
Yes, I know, I worked among them years ago, and this new breed since the 1990s — we are not the same. Something happened around 1980 and then again after 2000.
When those enforcing the “law” are allowed to break the “law” in order to enforce the “law” — there is no law. It then becomes the one with the most gold/power rules.
Those “law enforcement” officers are not — they mostly enforce mandates and statutes; few to no laws are ever enforced except with actual/literal crimes. The judges too have changed. they love their power and their liberty to enforce the “law” as they see fit along with “sentencing”. Inventing laws as they go along.
You cannot legislate righteousness — from the “bench” or from DC.
The world has changed and it isn’t a pretty place.
Thanks for the article
Thanks back, JT –
Good to have you with us!
Seems a bit weird, but I think I’m the first to call it by its name — murder. As surely as if he had shoved his service piece into the guy’s mouth and pulled the trigger.
What’s worse, this guy committed murder for a paycheck and a pension. No principles involved.
Happy times, in the Culture of Death.
Cops shouldn’t do chases for just this simple fact: They don’t have the training to go fast (or normal speed for that matter).
Most simply don’t. Not any. Or very little. (Same issue with shooting guns too unfortunately).
They don’t drive any better than the general public. On the way home from work the other day, I saw a hero jump from a right lane right over two left lanes into the left of two left turn lanes. Something he probably tickets civilians for doing on a regular basis.
Obviously, you don’t understand. Cops are in the upper caste, right below politicians.
They must be whoreshipped.
…You need to grovel before them, and if you have a business, you need to give them free stuff – or, at least 10% off – ….what is that kind of payoff called? …A bribe doesn’t seem fitting, but it’s close.
…I’d rather that discount go to the garbage man.
…But, I guess I’m in the minority on this Ship of Fools?
Today Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, on his way out the door, told himself, ‘I’ll probably get in trouble for this.’
For the dollar’s ongoing collapse, that is. Today gold blew through $4,400 an ounce and now is knocking on the door of $4,500 an ounce (a record high).
This is what happens when an Orange Flake sets to work destroying the dollar. The next Fed chair — whoever he is — is beholden to the Orange Emperor to pump out ‘E-Z money’ at low, low interest rates. Such a deal!
Unfortunately, ‘E-Z money’ = currency collapse. Happens every time. Your mileage may vary. 🙁
I 100% agree Jim, time to go hunting vultures:
https://i.imgur.com/373z92p.jpeg
gold and silver prices are a bad omen
last time gold went vertical in 1980, interest rates went to record highs
When the people running our country are insane, deluded goofballs, gold is the only place to hide:
‘Trump announced he is appointing Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry to serve as the U.S. special envoy to Greenland, the vast, semi-autonomous territory of Denmark that Trump has said the U.S. needs to take over.
“Jeff understands how essential Greenland is to our National Security, and will strongly advance our Country’s Interests for the Safety, Security, and Survival of our Allies, and indeed, the World,” Trump said in announcing the appointment.
“It’s an honor to serve you in this volunteer position to make Greenland a part of the U.S.,” Landry wrote in a posting on X in which he thanked Trump for the appointment. He added, “This in no way affects my position as Governor of Louisiana!”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-greenland-jeff-landry-envoy-louisiana-6babac895313a5ec65b5df79c7f86b45
Of course it don’t: Louisiana is a little Third World regime inside the United States — Uganda with jambalaya and crawfish.
If invading Greenland don’t bust up NATO, then I don’t know whut will. Press on, fruitcakes!
https://interestingengineering.com/military/nasa-finds-lost-us-military-base
>last time gold went vertical in 1980, interest rates went to record highs
Yep.
I paid 16% + 1/4%PMI when I bought my house in 1981, which was considered a bargain at the time.
I still live there, although obviously not with the same financing.
Yep, at that time I went shopping for my first mortgage, and it was around 17-18% as I can barely remember. But rates are lagging way behind surging gold and silver – which may be a bad omen – interest rates could surge again. I looked up the correlation – and there isn’t one. Sometimes they move parallel and sometimes they don’t.
They can’t do that this time due to debt rollover. The only exit is debt default. The next mortgage probably won’t be denominated in US Federal Reserve notes, but some other kind of “dollar” not tied to the historical debt.
Here they mow ‘em down then make jokes about it. Seattle cop 74 in a 25 (city streets) kills a 26 year old pedestrian. Then they yuk yuk after.
https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/video-seattle-police-officer-laughs-about-woman-hit-killed-by-patrol-car
RE: “Then they yuk yuk after. ”
“she had limited value”.
I just,… wow.
What can you say to that?
Perhaps?:
…Evil, is quite real.
On the flip side, so is, God.
“All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled
them, have broken the laws of the land.”
— William Kingdon Clifford
(1845-1879) English mathematician, philosopher
No way! RE: “All our liberties are due to men who….”
Full stop.
Our liberties are from our creator.
…It’s really very simple. Unless, you think humans appeared on this earth with a fine puff of pixie dust and there is no God, in which case, you’re floating on the, what-the-Hell side of creation and we, “just be” for no reason or rhyme, and ignore the laws of physics, ….
Believe what you want, ignore what’s before you, and have a nice day.
Spot-on, as usual, Eric!
Thanks, Arthur!
Though I wish I didn’t need to be…
Running from the authorities is pretty stupid. I’ve been stopped numerous times maybe 12 to 15 times for various road offenses.
One example; Many many, years ago I was heading down town very, very late at night on the super highway when the speed limit changed from 55 to 45. The person in front of me slowed down so I moved over to the left lane at 55 mph. lo and behold the cops pulled me over. Did I run! Hell, no that would be stupid. They had me in the back seat of their squad car and told me (tried to frighten me) with stories of how bad Cook county jail was at the end of the weekend when all the evil perps were locked down. And believe there are some crazy evil people in that jail. I suppose they wanted money but it was the end of the weekend and I was all out of cash. After a half hour of them listening to my bullshit stories they got tired of me and let me go with two violations ( speeding and swerving). I went to court and viewed a few hours worth of safety movies, paid a small fine and that was it.
My brother once ran from the police but they caught him. They had radios and were able to coordinate their chase. Maybe he watched too many movies.
My advice, go to court and tell it to the judge. Maybe itz different in rural areas.
Hmm, europeasant. Interesting nic.
Like, pheasant? A ripe bird, hunted for its meat?
You say, “Running from the authorities is pretty stupid.” So, there is this, “authorities” which you always obey? They are, The Absolute? King-of-the-hill? A.k.a. the boss of you? And, you’re A-ok with having a boss of your life? …You Love them?
You end with, “My advice, go to court and tell it to the judge.”
…You seem rather fucking clueless.
The judges are bought off..
‘The Law Is Dead’
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/03/ct-rossi/the-law-is-dead/
Stop being a Blockhead and get a clue, dude.
You sound like a real tough guy. How many street fights have you been in. Ever been cold cocked and knocked down. Ever been attacked by 5 to 12 gang members in the streets. I’ve been in a few street fights and believe me it can get dangerous. These days I run but if cornered I’ll pull out my 9mm. But run form the police? You gotta be fuckin crazy.
So you want to take on two big cops carrying guns and having a backup of up to 12,000. Good fuckin luck. Taking on an big and numerous adversary sounds like a a very juvenile thing to do.
Running from the cops because of some stupid licensing laws or traffic problems is stupid. Running because you’re wanted for murder is understandable.
I was going to change my handle to “EuroLord” but as you know Aristocracy is frowned on in the USSofA.
I am not a, “tough guy” rather, I am a realist.
I do try, though. All men should. Even, until the day they die.
‘Eveready Battery ‘I Dare Ya’ Commercial (Robert Conrad, 1977)’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dD-Oekbmlo
When you write, “My advice, go to court and tell it to the judge.” It seems as if you ignore the fact that, ‘The Law is Dead’ and the courts are corrupt. Why do you ignore this fact?
Such, are, “some stupid licensing laws or traffic problems” only if you can afford them, … and there are not other hidden broken laws & repercussions which you do not see.
“EuroLord” – that’s the wrong direction. Myself, I wouldn’t even joke about it. It’s like willingly eating a dirty sock. …Why would you do that?
Here is another sad story involving an AGW, would is likely an innocent 19-year-old girl (perhaps guilty of speeding 10 MPH over), and a father willing to side with authority over his own daughter. The father is disgusting. Maybe it was her stepdad, I don’t know but not going to be a nice Christmas in their house. The girl handled herself reasonably well under the pressure from the cop dressed like a security guard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtch4Z2Ki9U
I can’t read it. Your description is too much.
This should never have happened.
Speaking of law breakers, Pam Blondi just defied a court order – shouldn’t she be held in contempt of court for so much redaction?
I think that anyone foolish enough to work for Trump is going to break the law because (antichrist Zionist) Trumpenstein is the “lawless one”, as described in the Bible as described by the guy who runs Antichrist 45 Youtube channel. I can’t imagine anyone with integrity lasting long working for the mad Orange Nero.
One of her predecessors, Eric Holder, got away with defying Congress, so she’ll cite precedent.
I remember Eric Holder. What a piece of shit. I would rate Holder a -5. Bondi I would rate a 5/10 which isn’t saying much but under our present circumstances i.e. demographic decline, widespread Communism/Socialism isn’t too bad. The shit show is going to get a lot worse.
I’m afraid this shitshow is going to get worse too.
Good article Eric and thanks for having the courage to write it, and you are right about the “ear tags” metaphor – the government treats us like cattle. So I made a run for it one time, and here’s the story.
I was a young air force officer at Wright_Patterson, got my flying license at the local on-base club, applied for USAF pilot training and got accepted on the next round. Within months I was headed to Hondo Texas for phase 1, T-40 training (which is followed by T-37, T-38).
So I am driving to my next assignment down the Will Rogers turnpike after midnight, in a Corvette, going about 90 and a cop pulls out to chase me so I floor it and turn the headlights off (the moon was bright). I got up to about 120-125 mph and lost him.
Was I scared or worried? No. I was so full of testosterone and confidence and felt I outranked any cop. LOL I am sure that other clandestine government workers like CIA feel this way, commit crimes, but who cares, you are above the law. Anyways, I thought I would share that story, because just because you get a government job does not mean you agree with the law.
Years ago, a co-worker liked to brag about how he could outrun the CHP in his ultrafast Camaro (black in color, natch). We all thought it was pretty funny, and didn’t have heart to inform him that:
a) CHP has radar, and radios
b) radios operate at the speed of light
c) light is much faster than a Camaro
d) there is never “only one” cop
Yeah, it is necessary to have an array of passive and active defenses against them. And that arms race is for the truly dedicated and well funded, not innocent working men.
I personally found much more important rules to break, and tamed my driving to minimize my interactions with the communist enforcers. Dont drive under or at a speed limit, or very much over, drive just enough over to be average traffic.
Rule one is to stay off the radar. In a free country you don’t have to think about these things.
Yes. My strategy is to avoid the cops as much as possible. It’s a game, and I get to make my moves, too. I know where they run radar, I know where they hide, so I don’t speed in those areas. I know they generally don’t pull people over unless they’re doing 10+ over the limit, so when I’m in traffic I will take my 10 but not 15. My stickers are all up to date and everything is legal. I drink at home, so I don’t drive home from bars. I don’t believe in giving my adversary the rope to hang me with.
When I want to go fast I have specific spots on backroads where there are no cops and the conditions are safe. I have a backroad between two gigantic fields with good visibility, and when I want to do 100+ on my bike, that’s where I do it. A couple of miles down from my fast spot there is an intersection with a state highway and it is a cop-hide where they pull people over for doing 65-70 on the state road when I had just been doing 115 a mile up the back road.
In life you have to choose which hill you are willing to die on. Running the cops for having an out-of-date sticker is not one of them — unless maybe you’ve got a felony warrant for your arrest.
“My strategy is to avoid the cops as much as possible.”
ditto, any encounter with a cop is a risk, the best you can do is come out neutral with a high degree of risk of a fine or worse.
so the best strategy is camoflage – drive a car that is not too old, that is fairly clean with dents or broken glass, so you pass as a normal herd animal
you never want to be the straggler who gets picked off by a hyena
should be “no dents and no broken glass” so you pass as a normal citizen
always replace the broken lens on rear tail lights, red tape over a broke lens is a sure sign you ain’t got money
I used to hang with the hippies, they get stopped all the time because you can see they are living out of the car
never ride with hippies, you’ll get carded soon
when you are a clean cut mormon boy cop, those dirty hippies are ungodly and deserving of the wrath of yahweh, who you the cop, represent
Not to mention helicopters and probably drones now, too.
Mr Motorrad can’t beat the eye in the sky.
YJ,
Did you mean to say you started training on a T-41, the military designation for the C172? We had an old T-41 in the Charleston AFB Aero Club; it had a Conti O-300 flat six in it. I flew it a time or two.
Speaking of not agreeing with the government, YJ, if you were an Air Force pilot you were a de facto ZOGbot. Not insulting you, but true. I presume that you followed orders and must have been OK with fighting for ZOG at the time.
Obviously you have become very redpilled on the JQ, I am curious as to what event(s) prompted this 180 degree change of course…
Nothing I hate more than government thugs and speaking not of this event directly West Virginia has terrible roads tons of holes road slipping over hills lots of turns you can kiss your own ass tons of deer and trash on the roads I see lot of reports of crashes and it seems everyone is in a NASCAR race can’t just go for a nice back road ride anymore without people riding your ass the world is full of dickheads today.
I hear you, Angelo. People today are comprehensively moronic when it comes to driving vehicles. Drivers either drive too fast (well above 10 mph over the limit) or too slow (and invariably in the left lane). Always tailgating, seldom using turn signals, often cutting in and out of dense traffic and invariably driving in herds when the highway is otherwise open (I call them “dummy clusters”). I chalk it up to a lack of basic consideration on the part of the multitude.
Eric,
Is it possible that he had his tag mounted out of sight, like some of the sport bike squids do? They mount it underneath the rear set or vertically alongside the rear wheel; they mount it in a place where it’s no readily visible. Did this apply, or did he have no tag at all?
Secondly, I think the H-D rider could’ve gotten away if he’d gotten enough of a jump on the cops. If you get enough of a jump on them, they won’t chase you; even if you’re on a Harley, if you get the drop on the cops, they’ll let you go. Getting the drop on them (bare minimum quarter to half a mile head start) is key.
Finally, my rule for running from the cops (only did it twice when I had my ZRX) is you’d better be 100% sure you can pull it off, i.e. get away with it. Why? Because, once you drop the hammer and go for it, you’ve ramped up whatever charges and fines you would’ve gotten had you pulled over. IOW, can you live with going to jail? Because if you drop the hammer and go for it, that’s where you’ll be going if you don’t pull over for the cops. If you’re not 100% sure, don’t do it.
Amen, Mark –
I 100 percent endorse what you’ve said. Only take off if you are very confident you can disappear in seconds. And willing and able to fully commit. No half-hearted measures. You must use every last bit of capability your machine has – and have the capability to use it. If not, better to just pull over and take the ticket.
RE: ” better to just pull over and take the ticket.”
Unless, of course, The End result is, you die.
Insert … Will Grigg’s many tales of woe, here X.
This depends on the department, at least in Illinois, most local departments do not authorize chasing someone and going felony speeds for a non felony issue like this. When I was working for a department, there was a guy with a sport bike who was always speeding, running, and never had tags. As far as I know, he was wanted for over a year, but never was caught the whole year I worked there. It was known he would always run. They knew where he lived too, but never got him coming or going from that property. Illinois state police will probably chase though.
Good on him, its crazy if you have a bunch of bikes (as he did, and so do I) you have to pay registration, parking, and insurance on each one so many times when you only have one ass.
Hi Anchar,
Yup. There’s an element of disproportionality in this. Even if a guy “broke the law” the determination to pursue like a rabid bloodhound over a petty offense is (my view) unjustified because it only increases danger to innocent bystanders. The guy “gets away” with no plates. Well, big whoop. Is getting him really worth possibly running over a kid or pile-driving into some poor schmuck pulling out into the road who had no way of knowing a cop was coming around the corner at 100-plus MPH?
You view things too rationally. Contempt of cop is one of the worst threats to the system. It requires blind adherence to function, can have people start to think too much about it.
That’s I have almost as little use for “alternative” media who rah-rah for any or against politicians or anything Establishment. They don’t care if you like or hate them just as long as you pay attention.
That’s very true, Anon –
Sadly. Obedience is the only law, really. And look out if you don’t submit and obey.
True, what they want is obedient slaves. If you did time in the military you know they want you to follow orders without hesitation or rational thought – like go charge that tank corporal. Yes sir!
George Carlin had a good rant on this: “You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your f**kin’ retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tetndXjHG1U
The big joke Eric is they don’t follow the law but expect us too. Latest example is this redaction comedy, Pam Bondi should be held in contempt. If you did what she just did on your tax form, they would come down on you like a ton of bricks.
Totally, true!
Also, great story re evading the oinks back in the day. It’s a fine feeling, isn’t it?
>Is getting him really worth possibly running over a kid or pile-driving into some poor schmuck
Th AGW who offed himself on my front bumper back in 1989 was said to have been “chasing a speeder.”
Was it worth his life? Evidently he thought it was.
He didn’t catch the “speeder,” either.
Morning, Adi –
Yup. It’s a sickness. It’s also evidence of the way the system will go to homicidal extremes to “get” ordinary people over petty offenses that involved no harm done to anyone but is often indifferent to gross crimes committed by agents of the system, especially the high-up ones.
“But he should have pulled over! Some will say that. That is what people conditioned to serfdom say.”
Each of us has our line in the sand. There is no Utopia to be found, only the pursuit of our liberty in daily choices. It’s a cost-benefit analysis where the price may go as high as giving up your life.
The road pirates pulling you over is a touch point for Leviathan. As a small peddle that might bring down the giant noncompliance is worthwhile.
On the other hand taking the extortion slip and live to see another day, this interaction not being your hill to die on.
It isn’t always a sign of resignation to stay below the radar. Getting arrested or killed over a speeding ticket may mean you are prevented from some other act of defiance.
The whole reason they have petty laws is to root out troublemakers before they can do real harm to the system or become a leader. They’d like the person coding anti-Flock websites in jail, so I’d rather him play nice with the nuisance DMV instead.
Did this guy wrecking his bike and killing the passenger make them martyrs to a cause or did they just die in vain? It was a few minutes of nearly true liberty but did it move the needle?
Maybe it did, no one can know what will inspire or disgust someone to the point of waking up. The death of a fellow biker or someone’s friends or family could do it.
Well-said, Lame Duck –
I think the biker made two mistakes: One, he ran on a Harley – which is dumb because Harleys are slow and do not handle well. Most have top speeds around 115 MPH.
If he’d had a sport bike (and assuming he knew how to ride) he’d have lost the cop in 30 seconds. A typical liter bike can reach 170 MPH and accelerates from say 35 MPH to 130 faster than you can readthis sentence. Very few cop cars can keep up with that.
Two, he didn’t get off the road once contact was broken. This is the Number One Rule. If you can get out of sight – cop loses visual – then you must take a side road and disappear. Find a place to lay low for hours. Do not risk showing yourself again before then.
RE: ” A typical liter bike can reach 170 MPH and accelerates from say 35 MPH to 130 faster than you can readthis sentence.”
That’s, Wild!
I’ve never experienced that. The best I ever did was 125.
I can’t even imagine 170.
…You guys who do that, rock. Hats-off.
You can’t imagine. It has to be experienced.
Back in 2005, I bought a 2003 Yamaha FZ1. Light, powerful, fast. I think I had it a few days when I took it out onto the highway to let it holler. I hit an entrance ramp that swooped down to the highway from above and hit the afterburner. Bright sunny day, cool air, great riding day.
I was calmly moving past traffic thinking how cool the bike rode – like a jet fighter! Looked down, and my fat ass was doing 140. Didn’t seem like it at all, and it got there in seconds and I had plenty to go to hit redline. That was a fun bike. Not a great highway one though. You’d have to wear gloves or your hands would go numb.
The ‘new’ one is a Kawasaki Concours 1400. Twice as heavy, longer wheelbase. It’ll do damn near the same thing, only more smoothly.
And no, I wouldn’t run from a cop in it. It’s too heavy, the wheelbase to long, and I’m not a fool. It costs peanuts to register and insure (It’s paid off and we don’t have personal property tax here)
The biker is certainly no hero.
This is the way the field is striped. You can shake your fist in the air at it, but it’s what it is. No good comes from running. I’ve been caught with dead tags or dead inspection before. A simple shoulder shrug and ‘whoops, you got me’ would get me a ticket that many times I’ve simply gotten right with the law, went to the courthouse to show my registration, and the ticket was dropped.
Stopping is the least worst option. Running on a Harley with a passenger is dumb. Stop, they may take the bike or not. Run, matters will most certainly be worse. A few years back, there was a pair of knuckleheads on a Harley, with the passenger sporting a machete. Officer Barney went to see what the story was there, and they ran. Don’t know if the bike was tagged. But what wound up happening is they hit the high five (a complicated, tall, mixing bowl) and sailed off the exit that was about 100′ in the air when it curved.
FWIW down here in Texas I see bikes without tags all the time, ridden by morons. Why are they morons? If you don’t have tags, you don’t ride like an idiot thereby attracting the wrong kind of attention to yourself.
Hi Himself,
I fully agree the biker wasn’t a hero. My point is this business of “pulling people over” for bullshit “offenses” is just that. Bullshit.
The ultimate big game hunt. Homo Sapiens.
Unofficial motto of the IDF, innit?
Israel is our misfortune.
Yeah but hunting scrawny Palestinian kids and grannies is really not even sporting. Whereas hunting well fed, sleek, well armed troopers is like hunting black rhinos, a dangerous and worthy challenge.
There you go again, Eric, bringing up legalism. The Talmud/Old Testament are full of Thou Shalt Nots. Is it any wonder that your comparison of George Washington not needing to put a license plate on his horse speaks to how we got here.
That is, most of the legalism in this country was generated during the Progressive Era. That’s the era in the late 19th and early 20th centuries when “elites” went to Germany to be educated in the new ways of Karl Marx. They came back here and gave us a healthy dose of legalism to be “administered” by themselves and their fellow travelers.
Arguably Teddy Roosevelt is the poster boy for the Progressive Era. His speech in Osawatomie, KS in 1910 reveal the true nature of his legacy. Here is a pull quote,
“”Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
If that remark was original with me, I should be even more strongly denounced as a Communist agitator than I shall be anyhow. It is Lincoln’s. I am only quoting it; and that is one side; that is the side the capitalist should hear. Now, let the working man hear his side.”
Marx brought the Talmud to the political table in the 19th century and we’re worse off for it.
Here’s TR’s entire speech. He really exposes himself toward the end.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2011/12/06/archives-president-teddy-roosevelts-new-nationalism-speech
Man being a car (and tech) enthusiast the older I get the more I miss Steve Jobs – the guy who didnt put a “tag” on his car!!
Yep, Steve Jobs leased a new vehicle every 180 days so he could get a fresh temporary paper tag. As the old joke goes, he replaced his car because he couldn’t be arsed to clean the ashtray.
Fifteen years have gone by. I suspect, though have not confirmed, that even temporary tags are just as identifiable now as permanent metal ones.
But it goes to show that while rich tech lords are VERY concerned about their own privacy (for good reason), they have little regard for ours.
‘A free man is someone who does not have to wear an eartag.’ — eric
Recently, one such free man in Flagstaff, Arizona, prevailed upon the town council to revoke its costly contract with Flock, the automated license plate reader network. He didn’t like being spied upon, without a warrant, during his innocuous daily comings and goings.
Turns out there’s a Wrongthink site called Deflock. It accurately shows the gauntlet of spy cameras that I must run when visiting the nearby market town to shop (map link at bottom of the page):
https://deflock.me
A photo on the landing page is informative. The Flock camera not only captured the plate number; it recorded a Raiders sticker in the rear window.
As Deflock.me says, ‘They [ALPRs] also capture your car’s make, model, color, and identifying features such as dents, roof racks, bike racks, and bumper stickers, often turning these into searchable data points.’
This is even more intrusive than I had thought. It suggests that Flock spy cameras can be challenged on a First Amendment (free speech) basis as well as the Fourth Amendment (probable cause for a search warrant), since any message or personalized features on your vehicle single it out for attention and more effective tracking.
The site includes this warning: ‘Following takedown claims submitted on behalf of Flock, sites similar to DeFlock have gone offline. If DeFlock disappears, it’s clear why.‘
Dissent is not allowed, in other words. We control the interwebs. When you post Wrongthink, no one can hear you scream.
‘Brendan Trachsel lives in Flagstaff. He said that after he learned Flock cameras were in town, he became concerned about his privacy. So he created “Flock Out of Flag.”
‘This week, dozens of people showed up at a City Council meeting, echoing those concerns. After months of back and forth, the council unanimously decided to end the contract. The city of Sedona also canceled its contract with Flock this fall.’
https://www.azfamily.com/2025/12/20/flagstaff-cancels-controversial-contract-flock-safety-cameras/
These are rare, stunning victories against the Borg. Whereas recently in a town near me, a grant paid for Flock cameras for a year. The town council approved the contract because it was ‘free.’ But next year, and forever after, they’ll be on the hook for $170,000 or more per year.
Flock the spy cams.
Thanks for the link, Jim H.
Issue has reared its ugly head where I live (Corona, CA) over “cut through” traffic (motorists trying to avoid SR91-I15 interchange).
I am opposed to it on expense as well as privacy grounds. We’ll see what happens…
Red light cameras were tried, and discarded, here, many years ago.
Jim – Is it really called Flock? I mean they are not even hiding their intentions anymore!
Yes it is. But wait, there’s more. From Brendan Trachsel’s Flock out of Flag site:
“Flock CEO calls Deflock movement a terrorist organization.”
https://ibb.co/Kvxzxs4
Them’s fightin’ words. Flock him with a sharp stick.
Oh, this: “When you post Wrongthink, no one can hear you scream.”
…Like, the collar, ‘The Apes’ put on the humans in the film, ‘The Planet of the Apes’?
…Quite like that suicide collar on the news today, but, I digress.
Of course, the apologists for the panopticon always say things like “I have nothing to hide. If you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear from being watched.”
They have failed to learn the lessons of history, that the biggest mass murderers in the world are governments, and innocent people are usually their victims, for being the “wrong” religion or ethnicity, of having the “wrong” political beliefs.
Unless the officer had evidence of some other “crime” what’s the use of a continuing a high speed pursuit if there is other traffic in the area? For that matter as the cruiser no doubt has a dash cam they would have pictures of the bike and rider and quite possibly have identified him through that method.
Heroes got to hero I guess.
Morning, Landru!
Yup. Anyone can see that cop was driving in an extremely reckless manner – and also that (prior to the initiation of the chase) the biker was just moseying along. It is telling that the most extreme measures are commonly used to “pursue” plebes over the most trivial, pedantic offenses while the most heinous crimes, when committed by the anointed, go unpunished. Fauci and Bourla and Trump – to name just a few criminals – have caused the death and injury of thousands of people yet are free to roam among us as if they didden do nuffins.
Not to mention the default authority of the office of president being able to declare someone and “enemy” who is then summarily executed. Bourla gets a trip the White House to have a medal pinned on his chest. Venezuelan fishermen get a trip to Davy Jones’ locker.
Up lifting story for the holiday season, Eric.” Journalism is showing and telling the masses what they do not want see or hear. ” Eric Blair
I would say the road pirate was driving in excess of 100 mph in an suv. Must have the handling package.
My small engine mechanic while in community college decided to stir up the local gestapo in Kentville one Friday night on a crotch rocket . Blew by them doing a wheelie, they took the bait and chased he nailed it, got out of site , let off the throttle jumped a curb turned the lights out , went in his apartment and listened to sirens for the next two hours.
RE: “My small engine mechanic while in community college ”
Multiply, that.
Well, I mean that, but moreso, teach youngun’s da stuff. Or, help make it happen.
…If you can.
Thanks, Nova!
I’ve done it myself a time or two. People sometimes ask me why I did it. Well, because in VA, doing 20 over any posted speed limit (and faster than 80, anywhere) is a serious misdemeanor – “reckless driving” – that can result in your arrest and the seizure of your vehicle and loss of driving “privileges” for a year and the certainty of your have-to-buy-it “coverage” at least tripling in cost. Well, “reckless” can be 76 MPH on a road with a 55 MPH speed limit that everyone (just about) ignores and drives 60-ish. Point being, if I’m on my bike and I am doing 80-ish – which is moderate speed on this road (straight stretches) and as “reckless” as “masks” “working” then I am not stopping if a cop is coming the other way. I’ll be a mile gone by the time he gets turned around and then I disappear for good.