Does anyone remember Pontiac? Not the brand that went out with a silent wheeze back in 2010. By then, Pontiac hand’t been selling Pontiacs for at least 22 years. 1988 being the last year a genuinely Pontiac model – the Fiero – was available. It came standard with the last Pontiac engine – the Iron Duke, which was a 2.5 liter four cylinder engine related to the last Pontiac V8 engine, the 4.9 liter 301.
When Pontiac stopped installing Pontiac engines in Pontiac-badged cars, “Pontiac” became a badge-engineered brand that resold re-skinned Chevys. Buicks and Oldsmobile were reduced to the same.
It worked for awhile in that the residue of brand loyalty many people had for those divisions of GM kept them coming back for what they thought were Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles and Buicks. But after awhile, it stopped working – especially insofar as attracting new buyers.
Because what would be the attraction?
A thing – an important thing – that GM lost sight of (or was just dismissive of) is that people generally buy a car because it is not the same as another car. They also want to get what they believe they are buying.
Whoever originally bought my 1976 Trans-Am when it was new wanted a Pontiac. He did not want a Chevy. Not that there is anything wrong with Chevys; nor with the Camaro – which is closely related to the Firebird/Trans-Am. The important thing is that a Camaro is not a Firebird – and the reverse. They each have their own distinct identity.
My Trans-Am is defined by the Pontiac V8 that’s under its hood – just as the same-year Camaro’s is defined by the Chevy V8 under its hood. Each engine has its pros and cons. The Pontiac V8’s pros include superior low-end torque; the Chevy small-block V8 likes to rev. The power curves are different and they respond differently to tuning. A Pontiac V8’s compression ratio can be changed (up or down) by swapping cylinder heads – rather than pistons. Chevy small blocks are much more compact than Pontiac V8s, which are all “big blocks” in that every displacement engine – from the 326 to the 455 – is the same size externally.
One of the big draws, when my ’76 TA was new, was that you could order it with a 455, which is 7.5 liters in today-speak. The biggest-displacement engine that was available in any Camaro in 1976 – and all the way through to 1981 – was a 350 cubic inch (5.7 liter) V8. While Pontiac dropped the 455 after 1976, the Trans-Am (and Firebird Formula) were still available with 400 cubic inch (6.6 liter) Pontiac V8s all the way through 1979.
1980 was the first year the Trans-Am came with nothing larger than a 301 V8, but it was still a Pontiac V8 and that made the Trans-Am (and Firebird Formulas so equipped) Pontiacs every bit as much as the ones that came before.
This engine coulda been a contender – but was never given the chance. It was the first mass-market turbocharged V8 when it replaced the 400 V8 as the Trans-Am’s highest-performance V8 in 1980. It touted 200 horsepower and 345 ft.-lbs. of torque. These were very good numbers for 1980. As a reference point, the same-year Z28 Camaro’s 5.7 liter, 350 cubic inch V8 touted just 190 horsepower. But the 301 Pontiac was gimped by three things that had little to do with the engine, itself.
The first was that – unlike the Camaro Z28’s 350 – the Firebird’s 301 turbo was paired only with an automatic transmission. And that transmission piped the power to a rear axle with a 3.08 ring and pinion, which was great for highway cruising but terrible for acceleration. The ’79 TA with the 400 (and four speed manual) had a 3.23 rear axle ratio.
The other thing was that the turbo ginned up not much boost and even that much depended on everything working just right, which it often didn’t. The engine was also still carbureted – which wasn’t the engine’s fault. Carbs and turbos aren’t the ticket. But fuel injection would have eliminated that problem – as Buick proved a few years later with its 3.8 liter turbo’d V6 that became one of the strongest American-made engines of the ’80s. It was so good that Pontiac used this engine to power the 1989 Trans-Am 20th Anniversary editions, which were the quickest and fastest stock production Trans-Ams since the 1973-1974 SD-455 Trans-Ams and Formulas equipped with the SD-455 engine (these latter were the only Formulas that came with the Trans-Am’s shaker hood scoop).
One wonders what might have been had Pontiac been given the time to develop the 301 turbo engine. That had been the plan, by the way. It is why the brand-new (back in 1982) Trans-Am retained the off-center turbo-bulge hood scoop that debuted in 1980, when the first Turbo Trans Am became available. The ’82 Trans-Am was supposed to have been powered by the 301 Turbo. it would have continued to be a Pontiac, in other words. But – as almost everyone knows – when the all-new ’82 Firebirds came out, they had the exact same Chevy-sourced engines under their hoods as the ’82 Camaros.
With the exception – briefly – of the standard 2.5 liter Iron Duke four, which was standard in both cars for a couple of years. But the Trans-Am got the same 5.0 liter, 305 cubic inch V8 as the Camaro Z28 and so became a “Pontiac” in name only. It was a good looking car and it did sell well, for a time. But as time passed, it became common knowledge that if you bought a Trans-Am, you were mostly buying a badge. You were driving a Chevy. Again, not that there is anything wrong with Chevy.
But why did this happen? Why would GM gut Pontiac?
It wasn’t actually GM that did it. The government did. By the early ’80s, it had become too onerous – too expensive – to “certify” all the different, brand-specific engines in the GM family. Each had to be separately approved for sale – by the government. You can imagine the cost.
That’s why the Pontiac V8 was euthanized – along with the Oldsmobile V8 (the last of them, a 5.0 liter 307, carried on into the mid-1980s in the Cutlass and other large Oldsmobiles but it, too, got the needle for the sake of compliance).
Put another way, what the government did – rather, the effect of what the government decreed – was to homogenize the offerings available to us. GM stopped offering Pontiacs – and Oldsmobiles – because by the mid-1980s/early ’90s they were just re-selling the same cars sold by Chevy. Might as well consolidate. By the early 2000s, it was time to end the overlap.
This hasn’t been good for Chevy, either, by the way.
All of GM today – Chevy and Buick and GMC and Cadillac – collectively has a smaller market share today than Chevy by itself had in 1970.
We’re all the poorer for it.
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Between big business and big government it’s no wonder we can’t have nice things anymore.
‘William Durant formed General Motors in 1908 as a holding company. GM’s first acquisition was Buick, which Durant already owned, then Olds Motor Works on November 12, 1908. Under Durant, GM went on to acquire Cadillac, Elmore, Welch, Cartercar, Oakland (the predecessor of Pontiac), the Rapid Motor Vehicle Company and Reliance Motor Car (predecessor of GMC) in 1909.
‘Durant, with the board’s approval, also tried acquiring Ford in 1909, for $8 million, but the banksters refused to lend him the initial $2 million down payment. In November 1911, Durant co-founded Chevrolet with race car driver Louis Chevrolet, who left the company in 1915 after a disagreement with Durant.’ — Wikipedia
After some of obscure brands mentioned above were discontinued, GM was left [ignoring GMC] with five neatly arrayed divisions: Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Chevrolet. To me, as a lad, it seemed divinely ordained — we have five fingers, and GM has five divisions, as nature intended.
But I was mistaken. Nothing required that GM have five divisions, any more than New York City always must have five boroughs [Staten Island actually is on the New Jersey side of the Hudson, and would dearly love to escape communist control].
As John Z DeLorean detailed in On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors (1979), the company had long-standing internal problems which prompted his departure. Somehow it coasted along for thirty more years until its bankruptcy in 2009.
That was an unwarranted Big Gov bailout. If libertarianism means anything, GM should have been liquidated and its parts sold off. Thanks, Barky! /sarc
I suspect that all those cancelled EVs are in fact only on hiatus. If the Dems get back in they’ll be back. Sort of like how the new 1946 cars looked a heck of a lot like the 1941 cars.
Buy the car you need and can afford now because it might not be available in the future.
if management can’t sell Pontiacs, you don’t get rid of Pontiac, you get rid of management
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Amen, James –
But, while I get that, I also get why GM did what it did. It was not tenable to absorb the compliance costs of multiple different engine “families.” So GM went with “corporate” engines in almost all of its brands.
been a daily reader for quite some time, and appreciate your writings sir.
when you have time, check out jdollinger.com
we think a lot alike, please carry one!
Roger that James – I will check it out right now!
The funny thing Eric is that Ford and Chrysler had the same engines for all their different divisions. Only GM had different engines for each division. I suspect a bigger kiss of death was when they all looked the same but with different prices.
unique to brand engines are appealing, moreso, the brand specific marketing thru image, dealer service, and fulfilling your statement. success comes from loyalty that is earned. over time, it’s about relationships, even beyond product. give them more than they expect.
The automakers used to fight regulation vigorously into the 1960’s at least. Guys like Henry Ford II would tell regulators to f**k off because they knew they were more important than the federal government. Why did they start getting scared of the government?
Is it because its not car guys running the business anymore?
Hi Rich,
Back in the ’90s, I was privvy to an interesting scene. The automakers sent engineers and other people to try to fight the initial SRS (air bag) mandate; they tried to explain that the requirement would get people killed. They told reporters like me that the things were going to add bigly to the cost of vehicles. It all fell on deaf ears – as far as the federal government. The car companies learned it was better – more profitable/less hassle – to not only go along to get along but to anticipate federal regs and get a new “technology” to “market” first.
The idea was when you were young you bought a chevy, then as you got older, a Pontiac, then Olds, then Caddy. Worked pretty well too.
Worked for Honda and Toyota too. They started out with eco-boxes and within 10+ years they created Acura and Lexus for their loyal owners. Worked.
I’ve always had the opinion that you get them into your brand young. I don’t think our big three are doing that now, and I think at their potential peril.
I wonder where Buick fit in the new car purchase cycle…
Hi Bill,
Buick remains because of China, where the brand is popular. It is near-irrelevance here.
I saw it work in reverse with my son. At 16 he saved his money and bought a used SAAB – a GM product. At 22 he bought a new Chevy eco-box. He’s had a good experience with both. I think they got a loyal customer.
Hi Ben,
Saabs are fun! I remember the last new one I got to test drive; it behaved as turbo’d cars used to behave. A surge of boost would skitter the tires. Plus you could hear the whistle! I hate that the character of turbo’d engines has largely been eliminated.
“What were they thinking?” Was it that they assumed you brand loyal buyers were conditioned to go to the same dealer, talk to the same salesman, deal with the same people? I know that’s how dad bought cars into the 1980s. His salesman “Skip” was on the phone with him every few years reminding him that his Charger isn’t getting any newer, and that there’s some great new cars on the lot just waiting for him to come over. And after his cars hit 50K (2-3 years) he started worrying, and he’d start returning Skip’s calls.
What’s odd is that he started out as a GM man, buying the first Corvair in town (supposedly the dealer didn’t want to sell it to him, as the family folklore goes). He ended up sequentially owning 3 of them, before I was born. But then came the Dodge Darts and Chargers and eventually Omni’s and K-Kars and minivans.
I appreciate the veneration of the V8 but, my Dad bought a ’64 Tempest 2-door with straight 6 and 3-on-the-tree. I learned to drive on that, it was a fabulous car…until I totaled it…
Hi Mark!
Yes, indeed. Pontiac developed a SOHC inline six and it was offered in the early Firebird; a “Sprint” version had a hot cam and a four barrel carb!
Badge engineering is to cars what kryptonite is to Superman.
Arguably, GM kept Pontiac alive years longer than it should have: In fact, for the last several years of its existence, there was no denying the “People Often Notice That It’s A Chevy” factor.
Now Pontiac had the G8 and Solstice, which could have been real contenders, but they were too little too late.
And with the homogenization of cars today, it’s even worse.
Stella!
“All of GM today – Chevy and Buick and GMC and Cadillac – collectively has a smaller market share today than Chevy by itself had in 1970.”
A good bit of it was self-inflicted though. For example, my father had a K10 truck that rusted through the door panels & floorboard. We’re from the Heart of Dixie so it’s not like it was exposed to road salt as those up north.
Pontiac. Quite like, The Constitution.