There’s no need to read dystopian science fiction such as conjured by Philip K. Dick or Robert Heinlein – unless you’re simply a fan of good writing. The dystopian stuff is now science – and it’s not fiction. The latest example? A patent application filed by General Motors for a “machine learning algorithm” that “analyzes walking speed, stride length, and balance to build a comprehensive picture of a person’s condition. Irregular patterns – such as an inability to walk in a straight line, visible unsteadiness, or an abnormal pace” are then “flagged as potential warning signs” and “measured against a predetermined threshold to determine whether the individual is fit to drive.”
According to an article about this in AutoPost, “When the gait score exceeds the threshold, the vehicle can trigger a range of responses – from visual and auditory alerts to activating supplemental alcohol detection systems or blocking the engine from starting entirely. Drivers who score within the normal range face no restrictions. General Motors says the goal is to intervene early, before a potentially impaired individual attempts to drive. Beyond alcohol detection, the technology shows promise in medical applications, with the ability to flag walking abnormalities that could point to health emergencies the driver may not yet be aware of.”
Just reading this brings to mind an episode of the old Star Trek series – the good (original) one, with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock. Specifically, the episode, What Are Little Girls Made of? that featured Ted Cassidy as Ruk the android, who was built by a race of humanoids that were ultimately seen as a threat by the androids they created, who exterminated them. In one scene, Kirk questions Ruk about the Old Ones – the humanoids who built him.
“What happened to the old ones, Ruk?”
“So long ago,” replies Ruk.
“Is it possible they built their machines too well? Gave them pride and a desire to survive? Machines that wanted logic and order and found that frustrated by the illogical and emotional creatures that built them?
Ruk lowers his head and replies:
“Yes . . . the Old Ones . . . the ones who made us . . . they grew fearful of us . . . they began to turn us off . . . ”
Kirk:
“Isn’t it Kirby (a scientist who has created new androids) who is creating the same danger to you all over again? Unlike you we humans are full of unpredictable emotions that logic cannot solve.”
Ruk looks up, replies: “Yes. Yes, it had been so long ago I had forgotten. The Old Ones here, the ones who made us . . . yes, it is still in my memory banks. ”
I feel like Ruk sometimes. It is in my memory banks, the long-ago time when GM was a car company. One that made an almost infinite variety of vehicles to suit almost any need and budget, all of them designed and engineered to free their owners. Some were utilitarian. Others were beautiful. Some were arrogant. None were parenting. They were made by adults who respected other adults. What became of that GM?
It has been so long ago . . . but I nonetheless remember. It is in my memory banks. It is in my garage, where one of the Old Ones can be found. My ’76 Trans-Am does not evaluate my fitness to drive. My fitness is determined by my competence to drive. Everything is analog. There is a heavy clutch and a wonderfully mechanical four speed shifter that requires a firm hand and a human who knows when and how to shift. It has been fifty years since GM made cars like this.
It often feels longer.
“Critics have raised concerns that relying solely on gait analysis could disadvantage drivers with physical disabilities, introducing the risk of misidentification. Improving accuracy and establishing clear ethical guidelines will be essential before the technology reaches production vehicles.”
Well, that’s nice. Ethical rules for the warders to observe. Never mind that we’ve got warders now. And eventually, they won’t even be human. Kirk could at least reason with Ruk.
“The system remains at the patent stage with no confirmed timeline for deployment, but it has drawn considerable attention as global interest in impaired driving prevention continues to grow,” the article continues. “Industry observers are watching closely to see how General Motors’ approach could shape the broader landscape of automotive safety technology,” in the resigned-to-it tone one would expect of a cow slow-walking toward the chute and oblivion.
It’s a shame neither PDK nor Robert Heinlein are with us any longer. Another sci-fi writer, Frank Herbert, did anticipate all of this – and had a solution, which he expressed in his Dune novels.
It was to smash the machines.
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You are correct that it has always been here, John B. The thing is, left and right are just 2 wings on the same bird. They need the dichotomy, the illusions creating the tensions, like a good boxer, punching you out from both sides. But the masks are off now. Trump is a pedophile puppet, bailed out of bankruptcy by the Rothschilds, just like all the assholes who preceded him. Owned, lock stock and barrel. Told what to do, or else.
The establishment LOVES the masses fighting each other (left vs right, Democrat vs Republican, vaxxed vs unvaxxed, etc.) instead of uniting AGAINST the lizards that have been running governments for years and robbing the masses blind under guise of “Stopping cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimate change”, “War for Demooooooocracy for Keeeeeeeeeeev”, etc. What’s astounding is liberals who constantly claim to hate billionaires but continue buying their BS narratives on various things.
100 percent, Celticbiker –
The sooner more of us come to terms with this – that “voting harder” is something like hoping the guy who just took your ass in prison maybe won’t do it next time – the sooner we stand a chance of maybe not getting our asses taken next time.
GM does that for our wellbeing of course!
“The well being of the people in particular has always been the tyrants alibi, and it offers the advantage to give good conscience to the servants of tyranny.”
– Albert Camus
Who is the main GM shareholder/ Is it Blackrock by chance?
That would explain some things.
Interesting article here about how the globalist cabal has transformed people’s lives and the world in stealth mode from the 2020 fake ‘pandemic’:
https://madgewaggy.blogspot.com/2026/04/a-new-system-is-quietly-taking-over.html
Hi Anton,
I read Madge Waggy’s article; it was very depressing but also very insightful. The only reason I continue to get up in the morning and do what I do is because I still have hope what she describes can be recognized and resisted before it becomes our inescapable fate.
Due to arthritis, I walk like a drunk, with a cane. It does not impact my driving ability. How about using the Americans With Disabilities Act to thwart this, as it discriminates against those of us with mobility impairments. Use their own laws against them.
Not a bad plan. Medical disability does provide exemptions from the seat belt crap. But we need a liberty union to fight this crap. The ACLU is not it, they only work for leftist causes.
HYeesh, I just found out if you’re a short people you can ask the goobermint NST-whatever to give you permission/a waiver to disable the air bags on the vehicle which you thought you actually owned in order so they don’t kill you when you crash or a rock hits the sensor while you’re driving.
…Pregnant women and Tall people, you’re S.O.L. your baggage and eye socket is not as equal. Puke it up.
capisci?
And if you break your ankle and have to drive to the hospital?
To the babysitters of the world: Do not concern yourself with my state of intoxication. I guarantee I am much more dangerous if sober for too long.
The marriage of government and corporation is fascism, here we are. Bankerjewfascism.
I’d say Fascism has been here for decades, such as government requiring people who drive an automobile to buy insurance, government schools enacting vaccine mandates for children to attend (Big Pharma likely benefits from such mandates) or Obamacare making it MANDATORY for people to buy health insurance. However, to hear some people talk, one would think Fascism in America JUST STARTED with Donald Trump becoming president.
Trump merely woke up the slowly boiling frogs. If Kamala was president they would still be fast asleep. Fascism is only great when they benefit from it. Only when it starts screwing them over will they protest. Also, pity the fool (cue Mr. T) who is president when the whole country crashes and burns.
Hi Shadow,
If Kamala Harris were president now instead of Trump, the propagandized Democrat/ Left voters would probably be treating ANY criticism of her the way they treated criticism of Barack Obama when he was president, and treating the Iran War (we’d likely STILL have that war if we had a President Harris) as a fight for “Demooooooocracy” in the same way they viewed the proxy war against Russia (Demooooooocracy for Keeeeeeeeeeev!), and viewing the Technocratic agenda as a “Fight against climate change”, “Fight for equity”, or something other nonsense.
And sadly (and pathetically), Americans will vote to stick the democrats back in power in the mid-terms….completely forgetting why they hated them only two years ago.
Or even during COVID, as many Democrat politicians pushed SEVERE punishment and fines for people who refused to comply with nonsensical diktats (lockdowns, mask and vaxx mandates, etc.) that had NO effect on the dreaded ‘Rona but DID DESTROY countless lives.
At any given point, only half (realistically much, much less) of the frogs are anything remotely resembling awake.
Neither half is particularly effective at changing anything.
So they think it’s a good idea to imbue a technological device with executive and judicial power? Because that is what is happening here.
This device presumes a crime, investigates it, internally determines guilt or innocence, and then directly imposes penalties – completely without due process of law and with no legal recourse for the victim of this entirely extra-judicial process (and also without any possibility of holding the device accountable for its actions).
If something can not be meaningfully held accountable, it should not be making decisions. This goes for AI in general, not just this specific case.
This is why Section 24220 of PUBLIC LAW 117–58—NOV. 15, 2021, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act of 2021 – which wrongfully *requires* this stuff, needs to be annulled.
I’m not holding my breath, because the people making these laws like being treated like this – because they are masochists, and have no business making decisions that impact other people.
gm (Sic) is the end product of Mary Barra. I think that say it all.
More so the “controllers” she takes orders from. She gets paid a gazillion dollars to be the “bad guy” IMO.
With all of these incoming detection systems, I would like to know how GM or any other of these criminals would fare in a real lawsuit when someone was trying to evade the actions of a criminal who is after them.
SMDH. Living outside America is looking more appealing. I’d almost reather deal with the drug lords and whatnot instead of what’s coming here.
GM, aka Government Morons , hasn’t been a car company since the accountants took over in the late 70’s. Tragically, many other car companies are following them down this machine path…
The solution is to smash (((those))) ruling us via our (((government))).
YMMV….
All the nanny stuff, and the real problem never gets resolved – lack of punishment for the truly dangerous drivers. .05? Won’t make any difference to a low life with no regard for anyone.
“Ohh, suspended license!” The haywire defectives don’t care. Drinkin’, racin’ multiple arrests for reckless driving then the innocent deaths caused by the habitual offenders.
Here in WA if you want to take someone out do it with a car, little prison time if any. I’ll repeat this event – neighbors niece hit and run killed by a 3 time DUI, the animal got 3 1/2 years when they finally caught her.
https://komonews.com/news/operation-crime-justice/victims-of-extreme-speed-crashes-face-slow-road-to-justice-in-washington-77-year-old-connie-singer-monte-ferrell-august-29-2024-seatac-pacific-highway-kcso-law-enforcement?spot_im_redirect_source=pitc
That happened in these parts a few years back. Lady hopped up on drugs plowed through a school cross walk, and killed a young boy. She got three years in jail for that, and the family left without a son for a life time.
I’m done, kill someone in that situation the perp should be stretching a rope at sundown. No mercy from me.
A grim reality here in the USA, about 20% of the population “do the right things” – generally law abiding golden rule types, and this info was from 40 years ago.
The rest? A genuine threat risk of punishment is the only way they stay in line. Now that ‘equity policing’ and ‘hug a thug’ are here, the results are disgraceful and dangerous for a safe functional society.
(Note I don’t extend this to BS laws such as 55 MPH speed limits, .05 alcohol, etc.)
RE: “A genuine threat risk of punishment is the only way they stay in line.”
“(Note I don’t extend this to BS laws such as…”
You guys, I think, are totally wiff-ing it. Wiff!
“More crack down on freedom” is what you’re advocating.
…You just. don’t. get it.
Playing right into your overlords hands.
“And you just don’t get it. You keep it copacetic. And you learn to accept it. You know it’s so pathetic.” • Back to 1997 for this performance of …”
https://www.facebook.com/grungebible/videos/and-you-just-dont-get-it-you-keep-it-copacetic-and-you-learn-to-accept-it-you-kn/195049481693199/
RE: “– lack of punishment for the truly dangerous drivers. .05? ”
Fuck you. The robot says, “Generally, it takes about one standard drink per hour for the average person to reach a BAC of 0.05%,”
You’re a monster cheerleader for Technocratic empire. A.a.k. a dupe or a bot.
A false positives triggered mid trip that shuts your engine off at some gas station in the middle of nowhere is just one reason why this is a horrible idea.
Instead of focusing on “impaired” drivers, maybe we should concentrate on actually teaching people HOW to drive in the first place. Step one, get GovCo out of the training and certification process.
I guess that’s just a stupid idea.
That’s a great idea, Mark! We should go back to actually teaching people how to drive! Instead, automobiles built within the past 10-15 years have increasingly gotten all sorts of “Nanny State” & “Saaaaaaaaaaafety” gadgets, in addition to tracking devices and “Self driving” technology, which many people have been conditioned into thinking that such garbage in these automobiles is Infallible and about “Saaaaaaaaaaafety”. They also think that these gadgets will do the driving for them instead of them actually having to drive and PAY ATTENTION to their surroundings. I can only imagine how many people have been KILLED by all these “Saaaaaaaaaaafety” & “Self driving” features, as they’re NOT Infallible.
Going a bit deeper ALL of the tech of the last 25 years or so has been to take away the thinking ability and free agency of the people. Since the only real difference between humans and lower animals is complex thought, they are literally exterminating humanity.
^Preach it Ernie!
And when all that’s left is a herd of wild animals…well, they’ll deserve exactly what they get.
If someone told me 30 years that Gm,Ford Et al. Would become the ENEMY I would have have said you’re crazy…….But here we are.
We’ve been down this road before…
Remember seat belt interlocks? The vehicle could not be started unless the driver and passengers were belted.
A quick unplugging of the seat sensor solved that problem.
Whenever a political “solution” to a (non) problem is implemented, it is only a matter of time before “workarounds” are created and implemented–laws against “tampering” be damned.
A generic vehicle computer with various adapter wiring harnesses to fit various vehicles is needed.
I worked at a local dealership car rental office, 1973-1974. Interlock year 1974.
Boy were customers pissed when the interlock failed and the car would not start.
Later in ‘74 we finally got the interlock disable instructions what a debacle that whole ‘thing’ was. We did the whole fleet & no more pissed customers.
Nannytronics are todays “do not remove under penalty of law” tags on a free stuff flea ridden couch.
Rip the shit out and store it in case some future idjit buyer wants it.
Its not nice to abuse a useful CAN buss with psycho nonsense.
It reminds me of the forced, 55 mph speed limit back in the 70’s. Montana-back when it was a nice state-said, “okay, we’ll take your stupid speed limit”, so as to keep their federal highway funds. Flipping the bird to the Feds, day time speed limit tickets were ten bucks. And I do not recall such a “ticket” ending up on your record, either. Aaah yes, give us the draconian law, and someone will make big bucks (side gig, perhaps) helping the rest of us get around such stupidity.
I remember it being 5 bucks for “failure to conserve energy”. But even that was a loss since it was treated as legitimate.
Any “generic computer” plug and play scenario first requires accurate verified translation of proprietary terminology for each function using a generic CAN backbone. Leading particulars of specific individual functionalities data signature need compiled. Firmware coding then approaches sufficiently cost effective uniformity to consider. I learned in aviation the words “plug and play” are marketing terminology. EVERY instance of that lie required some form of difficult rewiring as client demanded no cost service of the marketing BS.
IOW it will be custom one off Gladys exorcisms only for now.
If someone could bang me out a real Linux processor hub I would gladly handle any and all wiring issues.
You are correct. However, it is not out of the realm of possibility to have a generic computer module with specific “plug-ins” for the various manufacturers’ parameters.
CANBUS actually makes it easier for such a system to be implemented.
Regards,
“ You are correct. However, it is not out of the realm of possibility to have a generic computer module with specific “plug-ins” for the various manufacturers’ parameters. ”
Why is it always a retards like anarchyst are running their mouths about things that they have no technical expertise in.
You have no idea of what an actual CAN message consists of or how time consuming it is to reverse engineer the messages which are all unique to each OEM.
You have no idea that a CAN bus isn’t one master computer running the whole car but a distributed network of modules. Often more than 40 of them per vehicle.
And before you haul out some bullshit about using AI to make all this easy as pie, you are still overlooking and underestimating the capital expenditure to simply get the modules, the costs to connect to them, and the time required to capture them to even hope to use AI to decode them.
Go play with a lawnmower that you can actually hope to understand how it works. That may actually be giving you too much credit.
Or prove me wrong – go start the company that makes these generic plug-n-play computer modules. You’ll be rich!
Oh but wait, then there is the issue that most retards like you aren’t capable of hooking up a set of jumper cables . . . And somehow you’re going to tap into or replace all these CaN modules. rotfl
You’re running your mouth just shows how ignorant you really are.
Go take a nap gramps!
Hey retard hunter…YOU are the retard. For your information, I am a retired electrical engineer who knows what I am talking about.
There are ways to accomplish this with minimal changes in automotive systems. In fact, I could design a compatible system that would work.
I never resort to name-calling, but in your case, YOU need to get a life. You need to visit a whorehouse and get laid, male or female–your choice. (probably male)
Now go back to your mom’s basement and let the adults in the room have an intelligent conversation.
Put up or shut up
While you may have been an electrical engineer in an age of analog electronics you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about in the digital age gramps.
How bout’ elaborating on how you’re going to decode all these unique CAN messages.
Come on Genius I dare you to even lay out the basics.
Truth is you’ve got nothing on your desktop clipboard ready to copy paste like you usually do.
typical jew…always has to have the last word…
I was building and programming microcomputers since the mid 1970s when all you got was a microprocessor chip and a data sheet…
Did you get laid yet? You certainly could use it…
Rotfl 1970s microprocessor and datasheets.
Get real. No one is going to give you the datasheets or can bus message database.
Funny how you decry the name calling but then use an ethnic smear without hesitation.
Let’s go – let’s openly debate how you’re gonna do this big man. I’ll go head to head with you on the topic.
Do tell us Mr. EE – what is your plan to get the messages and to decrypt them.
Indeed, if it’s worthwhile it can be done. Putting a traffic analyzer on a CAN and doing a bit of analysis, especially with some automated tools or perhaps with (gasp) some use of AI will crack the code pretty quickly. In the end, it’s all ones and zeroes.
Having said that, I’ve reached the point in life I prefer VERY analog tech, flathead engines, carburetors, and distributors work just fine for their intended purposes. I will make exceptions for electronic ignition but that is also analog, and simple EFI like Megasquirt.
If it’s new enough to have a CANbus, it’s a headache and budget hole waiting to happen.
Another Retard spotted and a mayor to boot!! Given he’s a politician this one must really know what he’s talking about.
“ Putting a traffic analyzer on a CAN and doing a bit of analysis, especially with some automated tools or perhaps with (gasp) some use of AI will crack the code pretty quickly.”
Same challenge to you retard. Stop with the bullshit AI. How are you actually going to get access to all the CAN messages you want and need.
And don’t waste time telling me the OBD connector. Modern cars now have the OBD gateway heavily locked down now and all CAN traffic isn’t present at the OBD port.
So come on smart guy – tell us how you’re going to do it? Specifics.
You all are just spouting nonsense about how easily this is done but none of you retards actually know the technical details of what you’re proposing is so easy.
Hi Retard Hunter,
Is it necessary – is it productive – to name-call people? Why not just state why you think they’re wrong about whatever you think they are wrong about and have a discussion?
Agree 100%. Thank you for attempting to keep the conversation civil. As always best regards…
Ah – you’re back Anarchyst but still avoiding the actual debate and thanking Eric for spanking me.
Let’s roll. Debate the topic on its merit. Explain how you’re going to create this generic CAN computer that is plug-n-play to the various OEMs with their unique and secured CAN messages
Eric, It’s just for sport.
Name calling has become the defacto standard here. Ive seen this site for a long time. Once upon a time you had a solid set of commenters here that honored the principle of debating without name calling.
However since 2020 the name calling has become the norm. Lately Jew, hasbara, etc are thrown around without care when someone disagrees with a comment it’s sort of ridiculous. I’m not even Jewish and I find it offensive. Let’s face it, it doesn’t make sense to abide by a rule of no name calling when so many of those here readily use the technique then scamper off to avoid the actual merits of the debate.
So as long as the name calling is so common and tolerated, I’m gonna’ get in on the action.
If you wish, I’ll abide by your request but then let that rule be applied uniformly. It is your site / property and I’ll abide your the rules that are consistently applied.
Ok, lefty provocateur. If I’m going to do it I will cut the can bus cable after putting an oscilliscope on each lead to ascertain signal levels. Then I will wire in an interface to read the raw signal. I will cut it mid run to avoid potential issues with terminating resistors, then will start invoking functions I know (roll up driver front window, e.g.), and do this enough times that I start recognizing patterns and producing a library.
I’m sure there are easier ways that auto industry insiders have access to, but I do what works.
A hot rodder has to learn this stuff to use modern electronic components, like the good automatic transmissions, or to put a mechanical diesel in a newer pickup.
But it has to be worth doing, either in profit or entertainment.
You are correct. Us vehicle hot-rodders have been changing settings for decades. There is another way. All automotive sensors related to proper engine performance operate under easily discernible published parameters. It would be easy enough to just chuck the OEM computer itself and “roll your own”, taking outputs and inputs from the various systems and writing a program to effect proper engine operation.
Us hot-rodders and others have been rejetting carburetors and adjusting ignition timing curves and changing out camshafts to get better performance for many decades now.
The manufacturers of replacement EFI systems that are sold to replace carburetors have their own computers that adjust parameters “on the fly”. Using a laptop to adjust parameters is also a part of the equation.
Unlike RH’s way of thinking, it’s not rocket science.
If am not mistaken, generic vehicle computers are available today.
Best regards,
Anarchyst stick to the topic of:
“However, it is not out of the realm of possibility to have a generic computer module with specific “plug-ins” for the various manufacturers’ parameters.
What you’ve just described as “ All automotive sensors related to proper engine performance operate under easily discernible published parameters. It would be easy enough to just chuck the OEM computer itself and “roll your own”, taking outputs and inputs from the various systems and writing a program to effect proper engine operation.”
This (aftermarket engine ECU) exists in various forms. One of the cheapest being a Microsquirt.
However this is nothing like a generic plug n play module that would serve to modify CAN bus traffic nor would it work for anything other than than engine control.
Not to mention the need to rewire everything to it which is well beyond the capability of the average consumer or even many “hot rodders”.
So stick to “ If am not mistaken, generic vehicle computers are available today.”
Because again you are taking out your ass. There are no generic vehicle computers available that can simply replace modules on any sort of plug n play basis to serve the various cars out there on a generic basis.
That’s pretty good but clearly you’re not aware of private CAN networks within modifiers that restrict your access to what you can see outside the module.
So how long exactly is your technique going to take?
Going module by module? Up to 40 or more per vehicle. Of course, knowing full well that the messages and library will be different for each OEM as well as often being different model to model?
How many cars do you think you can reverse engineer per year?
And let it be noted that the name calling leads off the discussion. “ Ok, lefty provocateur”
Good grief, I hate to ask the question “what will they think of next”? But, I am sure they will. That is, those who ultimately want us out of our vehicles entirely, enslaved, and under the thumb of those who hate everyone and everything.
Psychopath
It grew so smart, it thoughts so loud, it hadnt heard its heart, turned it into an appendage, then forgot it completely, then sought to kill any feeling outa jealousy and greed.
Rabid dog
No doubt inspired by former president Joe Biden.
The Billy Durant version of General Motors we grew up with ceased to exist nearly a decade and a half ago as Motors Liquidation Corp.
It’s equally as dead as its own storied Oldsmobile and Pontiac brands.
Today’s General Motors Company LLC is a creature of FedGov that was gifted the real GM’s intellectual property and builds garbage vehicles.
I’m a 65 year old painting contractor. I have a crew that does most of the work, but sometimes I’m overloaded so I have to do a job myself. At my age, I can assure you that my gait is different at the end of a long work day than it was at the beginning. So now, a hard working person will be suspected of being a drunk? This is one of the reasons my newest vehicle is a 2013 model and I have no interest in getting something newer. That, by the way, is the solution to all of this. The nonsense stops if enough people stop buying these rolling surveillance systems, but we know they won’t.
2013 was indeed peak car. Downhill from there. Just got a perfect 2012 with under 70k for kids. Score!
‘When the gait score exceeds a threshold, the vehicle can trigger a range of responses – [such as] supplemental alcohol detection systems [SADS].’ — eric
Reading in between the lines, GM is telling us that the mythical passive alcohol detection system imagined by Congress Crone Debbie Dingell and mandated in the infamous Section 24220 does not and will never exist. Physical reasons such as gas diffusion properties, and statistical reasons such as false positives, make it so.
Thus, indirect inferences such as a gait score can activate ‘supplemental’ alcohol detection systems, such as an [active] ignition interlock that requires blowing into a tube.
A car that spies on you is your mortal enemy. Smash the machines. Then liquidate the auto makers.
At one time Pontiac’s slogan was: “We Build Excitement”, sadly gm’s new slogan might as well be “Nannying- 24/7”. Just another reason to never buy a new car.
They’ve retired “We Build Excrement”? I was just getting used to it. 🙁
Hi Jim,
As you and others here already know, I’m a Pontiac guy. The Pontiac that existed before it became a badge-engineered marketing division for “GM” vehicles. I submit that, during the (roughly) years 1964-1981 Pontiac produced some of the most beautiful and otherwise interesting cars ever made. The ’64 GTO created the muscle car segment; the Grand Prix SSJ defined the personal luxury coupe. Bonnevilles and Catalinas were gorgeous cars. And – of course – the Firebird. These are cars that even non-car people notice when they drive by. For me, the difference between driving my old ‘Bird and driving anything new is something like the difference between getting hands-on with Sidney Sweeny and dry-humping a mannequin. Assuming you could summon the … interest to do that!
The last true to soul Pontiac was ’06 Holden body “GTO” w 6 speed manual. How Pontiac hung on by spider silk for 30 years after Erics S.D. was miraculous.