Hero NY Cops

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NY cops refuse to do anything about knife-wielding serial killer:

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  1. Some Excerpts of the Dorner Manifesto

    Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.

    Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the fucking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.

    It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.

    Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national Assault Weapons Ban plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I’ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It’s the truth.

    Give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.

    Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment. You changed the perception of your gay community and how we as Americans view the LGBT community. I congratulate you on your success and opening my eyes as a young adult, and my generation to the fact that you are no different from us other than who you choose to love. Oh, and you Prop 8 supporters, why the fuck do you care who your neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of shit.

    George Zimmerman, if you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon’s body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an asshole. Zimmerman couldn’t get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status “disabled veteran” during your bail hearing but doesn’t state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I’m sure he’s utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court.

    • @Tor

      Gives me a new perspective on this low life. I haven’t been reading the news except what my wife tells me indirectly (she also isn’t a big news fan) so your information helps solidify a new impression of this uniformed goon and monster. Thanks again.

      HR

    • Again what I love about this site besides Eric’s excellent articles is the commentors actually are intelligent and although opinionated can articulate with logic and facts. If I ever want the true grit behind a MSM coverup I can come in here and expect nothing less than the truth and detailed in a way I’d never find anywhere else on the net.

      HR

      • Amen to that, too!

        Dom and I (and others) do our best to try to maintain a certain level of discourse. We just toss the depressingly common “you suck” comments before they see the light of day. An intelligent disagreement I can take. Mindless spouting I’ve got no time for – and won’t waste yours with, either!

  2. “Hero cops”….ain’t that actually an oxymoron, like “honest politician” or ” sweet smelling turd”?

    Maybe a good illustration of “hero cops” would be a picture of those Colorado porkies cowering outside the Columbine high school, pissing their black SWAT bdu’s until all the shooting had stopped. I guess officer safety is kind of at odds with hero cops.

    • The “hero” worship (cops and soldiers) is something I work overtime to stomp. As someone who has read extensively (you ought to see my library) about the WW II era and Nazi Germany especially, it really creeps me out to see/hear the eructations of the same verbiage of idolatry for the Enforcer Class.

      • I think Americans are under similar stresses and degradations experienced by people in “Nazi Germany.”
        Something quantifiable you see as you examine each government official, each family, and each man one by one.

        Dorner Writes:
        “this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name.”

        Unlike Dorner and company, I refuse to concede there is ever a time for “good cop, bad cop.” Better there should be “good cop, other good cop” or ideally “no cop, be your own cop.”

        Upon reading Dorner, I resolve to raise my own writing and reasoning, and recommit to the axiom the boundaries of the Non-Aggression-Principles must not be breached. There is no “necessary evil.”

        To paraphrase Joe Biden, much of the things I write are a “bunch of stuff.” I sometimes find it cathartic to play the bigot or the chauvinist. I entertain the idea that there is a peaceful way to “steal back” all the things that are stolen from us through a critical mass of people who become “too big too fail.”

        I can only hope that in the process of writing things down that quickly turn out to be obviously the wrong thing, that eventually the right thing will emerge.

        A core principle is to deny the existence of any such thing as “necessary evil”

        [speculation]
        From the 1750s through the 1770s all kinds of tyrants were beaten back throughout America. Then some oligarchs tricked us into going to war with the British.

        In 1789, the Oligarchs sold many of the colonists a bill of goods and constitutional house of cards which quickly turned out to be much more tyrannical than anything previously endured from England.

        War and destruction may temporarily seem to work, but in hindsight, we learn they only make things worse. There truly is no “necessary evil.”

        • Dear Tor,

          There truly is no “necessary evil.”

          I too have come to the same conclusion.

          The proper response to talk of a “necessary evil” is:

          “If it’s evil, it can’t be necessary.”

          To put it in more Randian flavored terms, “There can be no practical dichotomy.”

          • Hello Bevin,

            Another Randian formulation of the principle is that there are no contradictions in nature; if you believe you have identified one, you need to check your premises. When someone maintains that an evil is necessary, their conclusion of necessity is based on a faulty premise.

            I believe that cloverism results from being fed faulty premises from an early age, and then never examining those premises. I would further venture that the reason clovers never examine the premises is that their capacity for independent thought has been crushed, largely through government schooling. And that is why it is impossible to convince them of anything through rational argument: they are incapable of understanding that their premises are incorrect, and therefore will never change their conclusions.

          • @Mike–

            Well said. We have to teach our kids the Trivium:

            Grammar, Logic, Rhetoric.

            What’s the last time you even heard those three words together?

  3. This is definitely something for you to report on Eric:

    http://www.myfoxla.com/story/21019027/murder-suspect-chris-dorners-online-manifesto-about-slayings

    From the article: (a cop writing about his partners):

    “Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.”

    And..

    “How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”

    This story really needs to be told.

      • Corruption, abuse of power, etc and so forth has been daily local news in Chicago since before I can first remember watching local news, which was the late 1970s. And there is far far far more that never makes the news.

        Yet anything but worshiping government as our great protector and giver of civilization around here and then you’re a kook and paranoid. Never mind corruption and abuse of power is a way of life for a huge percentage of those in government and government jobs in this area.

      • “Who the fuck does that and thinks they’re making the world safe?”

        Amen.

        It’s shameful.

        Anyone with a half-lit sense of decency (and empathy) would feel like a heel doing that – and would have no choice but to quit doing it. Better to be a janitor – at least that’s honest work and doesn’t involve fucking with people who’ve done nothing to anyone and who therefore deserve to be left in peace.

    • Holy Shit! This true?

      “Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain Rolando Solano is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers.”

      http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/

        • I read his whole manifesto last night, and I’m left wondering…is this guy one of their wind-up toys gone bad, like Ted the Unibomber?

          Or is he just a guy pushed too far?

          Is the manifesto real at all? So many contradictions. The anti-weapon rant…in the same manifesto bragging about his Barrett?

          I have a very high level of suspicion these days; it gets tiring, but it rarely fails me.

          It must be a nightmare for the PTB–none of their promotions work the way they want anymore.

        • Looks like they updated the story:
          “n Torrance, LAPD officers guarding one of Dorner’s alleged targets mistakenly opened fire on a blue pickup truck that resembled one Dorner was thought to be driving, said Los Angeles police Chief Charlie Beck.

          The gunfire left two people wounded, Beck said. Torrance police also fired on another blue pickup, but no one was injured in that incident, according to a senior law enforcement source.”

          They did it -twice- and wounded two people.

          yet it’s the cops that can be trusted with guns?

          If a mundane opened fire on the truck of the -correct- guy, the mundane would go to prison because the mundane would have to have his life threatened first. Cops? No… just open fire and figure it out later..

          Well I guess it’s another thing “Idiocracy” nailed dead on. (Scene where cops discover the car they were in and just open fire on it)

        • Hey Dom,

          So what do you think of this Dorner guy? Framed or typical uncontrolled government worker that couldn’t even be bridled by his fellows? Personally, I’m quite intrigued as the press is giving us indications what motivates this guy. It seems his chip on his shoulder originates from a case where he reported against his manager who basically beat the shit out of defenseless mental. If so could he be one of the people that actually intially believed in the B.S. of peacekeeper of the LAPD and government and lost it when he saw what its really about?

          Anyway, minus the innocents that have been injured by the other cowardice cops who randomly shoot people out of fear of victimization, I’m getting a real interest in the story. I wonder how it feels to have one of their own breathing down their necks? Must be scary not knowing when they are going to be attacked in their own houses at any time in the night and have their doors breached and kids and wives killed by a policeman. LAPD’s finest I suppose, but in a way I kind of feel sorry for Dorner. And I suppose I feel sorry for the wives and children of these slained, although they aren’t innocent either when they preach and profit off of the same message that creates Dorners. Dorner is just another government PTSD victim of lies and indoctrination, I’m sure it started in K-12, went through military, right into LAPD. About when the full metal jacket was released upon the prophets and teachers of such ordained values. Truly a case of living by the sword and dying by it too. Maybe the lofty of LAPD will now understand what its like to live amongst killers created by their government machine, its always us mundanes that are usual their targets.

          • I’m under the impression this guy joined the police department under the assumption he would be doing good for people and himself. Doomed from the start is what I say. First of all, cops don’t do good by anybody other than the court house that collects all the fines/tax they generate. It appears he was tested very early in his career (a weeding out moment) and he failed miserably. Just another case in point where someone who stands up for justice is trampled and railroaded right the fuck out. This is “we” and how “we” like to operate.
            Heil ‘o’/

            I hope the evil lying fucks get what they deserve.

    • Dear Olaf,

      Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives?

      Indeed!

      We are relentlessly indoctrinated by Big Media into idolizing the police and military. One of the worst offenders is Donald Bellisario. Airwolf. Tequila and Bonetti. JAG. NCIS. And indirectly, NCIS LA. Everyone of them a military, police, or militarized police show, that depicts these Hero Cops as heroes to be idolized.

      One of the most disgusting things about these shows and others like them, is the inevitable scene when one of “their own” is killed.

      The Hero Cops promptly vow to leave no stone unturned to “get the guy who did it.” Meanwhile, we mere mundanes, who are not “their own,” are expected to mindlessly applaud their flagrant favoritism, and cheer them on as they treat our murders as in less urgent need of solution than theirs.

      • I stopped watching cop shows in the 80’s. Bored literally shitless with the same tripe. Its a continuing re-run of the past 30 years of same themes and cop issues. I notice almost every show on TV is either lawyers or cops or government and medical doctors like in big government hospitals. The programming has really worked, everyone and their brother wants to be a cop or get a brownie badge by harrassing people that just want to be left alone and do no harm to anyone else. Its a sick country.

        • Dear HR,

          Yeah. It’s all the “selfless public service” crapola.

          Selfless public service, my ass.

          We know the real psychology behind such occupations — the subconscious desire to push other people around in order to feel powerful.

          It is sick, literally.

          A psychologically healthy society would idealize people working to create something of value, not control other people.

        • Morning, HR!

          Amen to that. Cops and Docs deified by TeeVee. Both of them authority figures who must be deferred to.

          The last cop show I liked was Miami Vice – but I was a stupid kid back then and didn’t know any better.

          • As a kid I watched the PI shows, A-Team, and Knight Rider. Where the heros not only didn’t wear government costumes but were often harassed by those that did.

    • Dorner is a pissed off Navy Vet(loss date 2-1-13) & a pissed off LAPD Cop. Double Trouble.

      Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck Thursday detailed the double homicide and killing of a Riverside police officer allegedly committed by fired LAPD officer [and Navy Officer until 7 days ago]Christopher Dorner.

      During a 20-minute press conference at LAPD Headquarters Beck said Dorner is believed to have killed Cal State Fullerton assistant basketball coach Monica Quan and her finance in Irvine Sunday, and ambushed two Riverside officers, killing one, this morning. He is still at large.

      The CIA creates Tim Osama. Tim Osama is forced out of the USSA fold and becomes Osama Bid Laden.

      The Navy & LAPD create Officer Dorner. Officer Dorner is forced out of the LAPD fold and then the Navy fold & becomes Christopher Jordan Dorner. We know Dorner & Osama are evil, because they have three names.

      Christopher Jordan Dorner left Navy service on Feb. 1, just days before he is accused of killing Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence in Irvine, according to records released by U.S. Navy personnel Thursday.

      http://www.10news.com/news/investigations/us-navy-releases-records-of-triple-shooting-suspect-christopher-dorner02072013

        • Dear Eric,

          I submit that these type of self-designated heroes are in actuality a type of real-life spam that manage to pass through our corrupted filter system and pretend to be a legitimate part of our “in-box”; of our daily life.

          It seems like almost everyone recognizes spam online and quickly deletes it if they can, or learns to ignore it if they must.

          Everyone hates spam. I’ve never once read a word of the supposed banner ads on this site others complain about. I’ve never even seen them, I am 100% spam-blind.

          One’s ability to recognize spam in the online world is equally applicable to the real world. These pigs, officials, political institutions, and world bodies? They are all just real life spam! Anything they create should be deleted if possible or else ignored like it doesn’t exist.

          Everyone must learn to hate and avoid real life spam just as much as they hate and avoid online spam. Once that happens, it becomes easy to live freely and peacefully. To enjoy all these things you’ve worked so hard to create. To stop wasting time responding to and dealing with spam.

  4. Hammers, knives and children’s toys cause far more deaths and injuries than guns. But there’s no money in bringing the perps to justice. They prefer to catch you speeding without a seatbelt.

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