Civil Disobedience: N.Y. Gun Owners Will Likely Refuse to Register Firearms

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Residents are well-aware that gun registration leads to confiscation

Kit Daniels
April 8, 2014

New York gun owners will likely ignore a looming deadline to register their firearms under the state’s latest gun control law, following the lead of thousands of Connecticut residents who recently did the same under a similar law.


Both states passed draconian gun control laws last year and New York’s version, the SAFE Act, bans the sale of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines and one “military-style” feature, like standard AR-15s for example, and demands that gun owners who already possess such rifles to register them by April 15.

“People are pretty much convinced once they [the state] get on this registration, the next time they’ll say they’ve got to turn them in,” Stephen Aldstadt, president of the Shooters Committee on Political Education, said to the Associated Press.

The New York Police Department has already proved that to be the case.

Last November, the NYPD began sending out notices to registered gun owners demanding that they give up their firearms now banned within the city limits.

The police knew which gun owners to send the notices to by using a centralized firearms registry which lists the city’s gun owners and what firearms they have in their possession.

And the state’s gun owners are well-aware that gun confiscations can expand beyond the boroughs of New York City.

“I refuse to comply,” one gun owner from West Seneca stated.

Another gun owner from Greenville said that he wasn’t aware of anyone who planned to register their guns. “I hope nobody does,” he added.

It appears that they will replicate the recent mass revolt by gun owners in neighboring Connecticut.

Connecticut’s unconstitutional law required residents to register ammunition magazines capable of carrying more than 10 rounds with state police by Jan. 1, 2014, but weeks after the deadline, authorities admitted that only around 38,000 out of 2.4 million high-capacity magazines and just over 50,000 out of hundreds of thousands of semi-automatic rifles were registered with the state.

“So, where did these millions of magazines go?” journalist Warner Todd Huston wrote. “All that can be said is that it appears that gun owners in Connecticut are not quite the sheep that jackbooted government officials may have imagined they were.”

“After all, if there really were millions of high capacity magazines in the state – and it is very likely that there are – and they have now gone unregistered, that means that thousands of gun owners have refused to bow to this unconstitutional, anti-Second Amendment law.”

And New York’s gun owners will undoubtedly do the same.


  1. San Juan Puerto Rico Webcams

    Current Conditions : 75.9F, Scattered Clouds – 5:49 AM AST Apr. 10

    I’m married 16 years ago today. I don’t think she’ll leave, but my wife’s level of respect for me is not what I’d hoped for.

    Also her having so much less free cash to spend
    than she used to seems to have permanently knocked the wind out of her. Never in a million years did she think she’d be “this poor.”

      • In my experience whether in Santo Domingo DR, back alley New Orleans, or blackest Detroit, no one is going to kill me to “steal my Air Jordans” as you’ve once said.

        Perhaps a caveat is the natives can see I don’t fear them. I’m not disgusted nor putoff by them. I look them in the eye or ignore them as appropriate and see them as fellow sentient beings with different values. Including more frequently resorting to violence and being less concerned with self-preservation.

        I meet them as equals. They understand that, maybe they intuitively know I have no belief in municipal justice whatsoever. There’s an animal awareness with people who live at street level, and for all but the most crazy, they understand I’m no threat to them, but also not an easy mark.

        They very well might try to rob me, or to beat me severely, but I’m not one they want to kill. If you check the stats of Asians, Jews, and other inner city producers, you’ll see that we are just as safe in a ghetto as in an expensive neighborhood, for reasons I’m not entirely sure of myself.

        If there was a fire and I could only save one of these ghetto proles or one of you inner party suburb guys, I might well choose to save the prole.

        Writing off a vast area like Puerto Rico, or even South Africa for that matter, makes no sense. Its worth weighing the pros of greater civil liberty to see if they sufficiently offset the con of less safety and hygiene.

        Internalizing the cartoon scarecrow fearmongering and fleeing from a few dirty unvaccinated godless prole savages is a hallmark of metrosexual cowardice.

        I wish I had Bevin’s gift for diplomacy and organized thought, but there it is. Metrosex is the closest adjective I can muster to say something you may really want to ponder and reflect on, if you want the world to start to improve.

        Or maybe I’m just knee deep in bat shit. Admittedly, I used to drink a lot. And I still drink now, but I used to as well.

        Your previous comment is here, Garysco

        “I have seen it first hand working in the “hood”, where you can literately be killed for the pair of new Air Jordan Nike shoes you are wearing.

        – Just cause you write, killed for shoes in your police report, doesn’t make it so. It’s not like you played Columbo and really got to the bottom of these deaths, now is it?

        We called the area Hann’s Plantation because he was the evil county supervisor who promoted the dumbed down welfare mentality for his own enrichment.

        He handed the baton to Congresswoman Maxine Waters, who continues to destroy thousands of futures daily to enrich herself, her family and her cronies. We truly meant it when we said to each other “life is cheap in the ghetto”.

        I think life is cheaper in the suburbs. Living as caged and declawed tigers, like Seigfreid and Roy’s feline pets, out mowing your yards and washing your cars on the weekends. Horrifying.

        ‘San Juan started out as a walled city, but that doesn’t mean it’s entirely safe! The realistic tourist should know that San Juan’s crime rate is comprable to New Orleans and Detroit, a little more than 9 times that of New York City and 7 times the rate in L.A.. Caution is important, but paranoia is overdoing it.’
        – – – –

        Actually human life value is at an all time low. Slaves in the 1800s were worth about $10,000 each. The average price of the 27 million slaves worldwide today is about $400.

        How to combat human slavery

        I think its counterproductive, destroying free markets and trying to achieve goals at the expense of everything else.

  2. I’m thinking only of Chicago 1978-1984 timeframe I should have mentioned.

    Steve McQueen The Hunter Marina Towers 1980

    Blues Brothers Chicago Streets Chase 1980

    Chicago looked to have great diners in 1981

    Jackie Bisset – Rush Street Bars – Class 1983

    The ‘L’ train looked to be a good place for an older bald man to imbibe and watch Becky DeMornay in 1983. If only the flux capacitor on my time machine wasn’t broke

  3. Speaking of guns.

    I read some bits about Puerto Rico and how Peter Schiff was moving there.

    Tax wise, it seems great. Then i checked a slight bit on the gun laws, and that didn’t seem so great. I noticed some guys in ~2008 or so talking about suing in light of Heller. I wonder how that worked (is working?) out for them?

    It would be great if people in states such as Illinois, or Connecticut, or N.Y. could just up and take – everything – with them and go to Puerto Rico.
    I know I would.

    Also, @Tor, RE: “Everyone from Chicago looked down at the rest of the Midwest, and we mostly agreed with them.”

    A lot of people in the Midwest, Not from Chicago, thought the same thing – and – a Lot of people in the Midwest, Not from Chicago, thought the opposite.

    I just thought that needed saying.

    To pile on, of the two places in the world I almost got ‘stuck up and robbed’ Chicago was one of them. And, I was in a group at the time. I never felt like a bird in flock next to a hawk, except then, and there. I’m Never going back.
    Fuck the traffic, too.
    I can’t count the number of times i was tempted to put it in 4X4 and go up the median or cross the ditch.

    The other instance was in California. But at least the traffic was more bearable.

    Anymore though, minus the beaches and the nice weather and the architecture, California and Illinois are about the same. N.Y. N.J. Mass and Connecticut come in a close second, to last.

    Of course, All ‘States’ are bat-shit crazy in a collectivist sense. Ain’t none much better than the other. There’s a Yurtle wanting to stack a turtle on top of you no matter where you are in these here unitedstate.

    Helots, all.

  4. Tor wrote, “Right off the bat, I process “Tor can you read?” Whew! That wasn’t so bad. No I cannot. Yet again, Clover is telling someone he is a bad man. This time it’s me. And so it goes.”

    Funny stuff. Perfectly put.

    Tor wrote, “No clover, your shit I cannot read. Any other questions? I’m still waiting for you to answer all the questions you have so far evaded.”

    HAlarious, Tor. Me too.

    Ya crack me up with this true observation:

    “Clover’s Mom sees her baby for the first time”

    BrentP did a kick ass follow up, too:

    “Clover, cold didn’t stop them in the 70s, 80s, or 90s.”

    From what I’ve seen, a great many people in Illinois are rushing to get CCW as fast as they can. I reckon that soon their crime rates will be near equal to the states that surround them.

    Now if they’d just reciprocate.

    Or, better yet, wise Up to, “the belief in the legitimacy of the ruling class”.

  5. Dear dom,

    Good news indeed.

    As always, the key is mindset, the realization among people that they have no obligation to obey other mere mortals, merely because they have created an aura of “authority” around themselves.

    But if the victims of the IRS [or any other goonvermin entity] stopped imagining law and authority and government to be real, and just recognized them as a gang of thugs, they could ignore the IRS out of business overnight. Because the victims outnumber the perpetrators a gazillion to one. It is only the belief in the legitimacy of the ruling class, the belief that we are obligated to obey it because it’s authority — “It has the right to rule, we have the obligation to obey.”

    This is a good start. But of course it must be extended to cover any and all assertions of “authority.”

    • Mr Potter is not a villain. He is exercising his right of free association

      George Bailey is not a hero. He is a classic example of aimless bellyfeel.

      To arrive at more promising conclusions, we must move beyond seeing the point. Or following a line of reasoning. We must the mind poisoners calls to doublethink and dialectical paralysis as well.

      We must be able to not think, find points, draw lines of conclusions, build complex shapes of interlocking concepts. Not skeletal hierarchies, but breathing concepts. We must polythink and find the joyous emergent order truths that make up the material world all around us.

      There is order and freedom in the oxygen we extract from the air, the water molecules we drink, the rigid yet yielding proteins of our fellow sentient beings.

      At the same time we need the minds of babies, and of octogenarians. The minds of dogs, cats, birds, and wild beasts. All manner of thoughts are important.

      There need be no scarcity. No idea need be made to win over all others through the death and banishment of the other ideas. Libertarians have a lot of good ideas, it doesn’t require the extermination of conservatism nor liberalism. Just space to flourish is all.

      AFI’s 100 Years…100 Heroes & Villains…_100_Heroes_and_Villains

      All of us are part hero, part villain. Don’t hate any part of yourself. Instead seek to be more productive and gradually improve through trial and error. Be a fruitful plant and keep yourself alive in order to multiply.

      Plant defense against herbivory

  6. Concealed Carry In Chicago = lowest murder rate since 1958 in the 1Q of 2014

    Just FYI on irrelevant handgun laws that violate the constitution and worldwide inalienable right to protect oneself

    Molon Labe NE Megalopolimpwrists

    Typical East Coast Faggot Shit Yankee Wanks

    Rubba ruppa rup. I’s afraid gunz and datz watz up. Nigga nigga nug. I’s a walking dead my own grave I’s a dug.

    East Side( is the gay side)

    • Tor can you read? As stated in the article concealed carry was not even allowed in half of the quarter and I bet there are few carrying yet. I have not applied but from what I heard it is a long drawn out ordeal to get the permit. That is kind of like saying there was not an accident in your city today so your city is forever free of accidents.
      One thing you forget Tor and that is Chicago had one of the coldest and snowiest 1st quarter ever. Even the criminals did not want to get out. I wish libertarians would use their brains some day.

      • One thing I can do is exercise my freedom, Clover.

        I see your name on the masthead, and wearily engage my middle temporal gyrus and fire up the neurons devoted to lexical semantic processing with a healthy dose of malaise and disgust.

        Right off the bat, I process “Tor can you read?” Whew! That wasn’t so bad. No I cannot. Yet again, Clover is telling someone he is a bad man. This time it’s me. And so it goes.

        You’re a Bad Man – Sparta Remix

        I abort the mission. I stop dead and don’t go a single phoneme further. I’ll let the rest of your sleeping malformed devil fetus of a cannibal’s ideasoup lie. Why risk awakening another Anthony or helping one to further develop?

        No clover, your shit I cannot read. Any other questions? I’m still waiting for you to answer all the questions you have so far evaded.

        Clover’s Mom sees her baby for the first time

      • Clover, cold didn’t stop them in the 70s, 80s, or 90s.

        My co-workers got their permits pretty early on so I think your ‘first half’ is wrong too. But it’s not relevant. Concealed carry works by fear. It doesn’t matter if it’s one person in a 1000 that is packing or none. The very idea that a victim could hurt the criminal is enough to change the risk/reward calculation in their head.

        The drop in crime statistics nationwide IMO is from that the baby boomer bubble has moved on and concealed carry around the country.

      • Thanks Brent,

        I’ll check those out.

        Growing up, Chicago was the ultimate place. The big dog of the Midwest. Such a great assembly of industry, culture, and unique ideas. Everyone from Chicago looked down at the rest of the Midwest, and we mostly agreed with them.

        It seemed too formidable, and I ended up spending a little time in Detroit, and a lot of time in Minneapolis. Not that much in Chicago at all.

        It seems to be something common to Midwesterners, we live rural or in small towns, but we’re willing to travel many hours quite often to spend time in a big city. Somehow, Chicago just seemed too big.

        Though I sometimes I attack in an overdramatic strawman fashion, someone from a place like Chicago just might find a way forward beyond all our current deadend idea cul-de-sacs.

        Studs Terkel & Mike Royko @ Lawry’s Tavern 1991

        Royko @ Billy Goat Tavern in 1982

        Chicago – Saturday in the park

        Chicago – I’m a Man

        Well my Daddy sent a message. ’bout the whiskers on my chin. Never had no problems. ’cause I’ve always paid the rent. I got no time for lovin’ ’cause my time is all used up. I spend that time creatin’ For some groovy kinds of love.

        If I had my choice of matter. I’d rather be content
        Being closer to the chatter. Than where your mind is at. While relating to each other. How strong your love will be. ‘cept that only sometimes. Groovy chicks you see.

        I’m a man, yes I am, and I can’t help but love you so


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