According to the ExxonMobil Vice President Neil Chapman, Americans may soon reminisce about the days when gas cost a mere $4.30 per gallon – the current national average price.
Chapman recently told an assembled group of investment bankers attending the Bernstein Strategic Decisions conference that the cost of oil (which means the cost of gasoline) will increase by “orders of magnitude” over the course of the next several weeks, because all of the shock absorbers that have up to now buffered the effects of Trump’s decision to attempt to regime change Iran on behalf of Israel – which resulted in Iran closing off the Strait of Hormuz – are on the verge of no longer being able to buffer the effects.
Trump has been using America’s oil – the Strategic Petroleum Reserve included – to prop up the oil supply outside America (in order to prop up the shaky hegemony of the dollar, the hegemony of which is extremely dependent upon dollars-for-oil) which is why Americans are currently paying about twice as much for gas as they were before Trump decided to attempt to regime-change Iran on behalf of Israel. Americans could be paying less than half what they were paying before this war began, if the oil produced in this country were refined into gas and sold here, in America – as opposed to the oil being exported elsewhere.
But the spigot – so to speak – is now running dry.
“The most important factor in the price of oil and associated products will soon be the releases of inventories that, along with distributions from countries’ strategic petroleum reserves, have mitigated some of the effects of the Iran war taking offline or shutting in about 14 million b/d of Middle East production,” Chapman told the conference attendees.
“We’re approaching unheard-of inventory levels. I mean, really, really low levels. You can debate whether that’s going to hit those really low levels in two weeks or three weeks. Once you get to that point, you’ll see price shoot up. . . Most people with a model would say dated Brent (crude oil) will shoot up […] to $150, $160.”
Chevron’s CEO Mike Wirth agrees with Chapman’s assessment.
“The buffers and the shock absorbers are being steadily drawn down . . . Over the next few weeks, we’re likely to see those pressures flow through more directly to physical prices,. There [will be] more upward pressure that I would expect as we get into June and certainly into July.”
Oy vey, as some say. And just in time for the 4th of July, too.
If Chapman and Wirth are right – and everything is pointing in that direction – Americans may soon be paying a much heavier price for Trump’s war on behalf of Israel. This is not a pejorative assertion – much less an “anti-Semitic” one (it is hard to understand how one can be an “anti-Semite” for questioning or criticizing the policies of non-Semitic politicians such as Netanyahu, who is ethnically an eastern European and so unrelated, biologically, to the Semitic/Arab people of the Middle East). Trump has openly admitted he involved America in this war for Israel. At any rate, Americans are paying for it – to the tune of $40 billion, so far. That’s a lot of shekels/dollars. But it may soon be regarded with nostalgia as “peanuts.”
The world we knew may have ended back in February – when Trump decided to take America to war on behalf of Israel, which wanted a hit put out on Iran, because Iran is the last obstacle to Little Israel’s long-standing plane to become Greater Israel, the regional hegemonic power, from the Nile to the Euphrates. IDF soldiers wear patches depicting this. Iran had to go – and Israel persuaded (or blackmailed) Trump into being the agent to make it go.
Except it didn’t.
Now the Iranians have their hands around Trump’s balls – and by dint of that, ours. They are going to keep squeezing, too. There is not much Trump (or Israel) can do, shy of nuking Iran – and all that would do is trigger something even more costly than $8 per gallon gas, which is what we might soon be paying. If that latter does come to pass – and it seems inevitable at this point, since the “deal” Trump promised fell through, much as his other promises have fallen through and also because even if the Strait opened tomorrow, the world’s tanks will take months to refill – the America we knew is going to change into an America few Americans could imagine.
Or want to.
What’s coming could be be something even worse than what happened to America after Nahhhhhhhhnnnnnnlevven, all those years ago – only it is happening in slower motion. Everyone who remembers that day, back then, knew that the next day would never be the same. Or ever again. And so it has been. Some of us see what is happening now, in slower-motion.
Enjoy the summer. Before it ends.
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Via USAWatchdog: “Martin Armstrong said two weeks ago that gasoline prices could go to $9 a gallon. Dowd agrees with Armstrong and says you might get $10 a gallon gas in a worst-case scenario. Dowd adds, “I see oil going a lot higher, which will cause a tremendous amount of demand destruction and a recession that I think is coming anyway. It will be even deeper than we have forecasted. It will cause layoffs and economic growth to go into recessionary territory.”
…FUN TIMES!
That image you posted, it cracks me up, in a sad way, “I was told there would be cheap gas”.
Surprise! Surprise!
While we all argue about theoretical future fuel costs, I have been studying what car I should get to survive the Trumpenstein Apocalypse. I read the Israel/Iran war is now fully back on. Orange Con Job has opened Pandora’s box, I see now they are merging Israel military at the Pentacon, giving Israel control over our military. What could go wrong, I ask LOL. Still love Trump suckers?
No one calls it treason except Jeff Rense and a few others. But who cares, I am going to take drastic actions to survive, how about you?
I have a very fuel efficient car right now, an 8th gen Civic with the 1.8/5spd. By driving slow and coasting on hills, doing all the hypermiling stuff, I can milk 50 – 60 mpg on my daily legs between delivery points. I’ve owned over 50 cars and trucks in my life, all of them used. I am very impressed with this car thus war, it is nearly maintenance free. It is a coasts like freefall, it has low air drag and with the tires at 50 psi it coasts like a mother, the best coasting car I have ever owned. As soon as I drop to neutral at speed the mpgs go into the high 200s.
I stay on secondary paved roads to keep my speed down. I have this really cool Scan Gauge 3, it tells me hundreds of parameters, and has a touch screen, multiple screens etc. I have it set up to give me instant mpg, fuel flow, MAF, engine load etc. Anything to help me keep the fuel flow down. Having instant feedback helps me hypermile. I highly recommend this device, sold on amazon.
I am also using Goolag Ai to investigate fuel efficiency of other cars. The Ai is very impressive, and even though I am a neo-Ludditte I love it and have already become addicted to how it spits out all kinds of car data, that otherwise is hard to find or look up.
For instance, say I ask “how long can a 2018 mirage idle on 1 gallon, once fully warm”:
Maximum Efficiency Idle: At a rock-steady, accessory-free idle, the engine consumes its baseline minimum of 0.10 gallons per hour or 10.0 hours
“what is the fuel flow and mpg at 40mph of a 2018 mirage 1.2 liter, fully warm, flat surface, no wind, AC off, headlights off?”
Under these ideal, low-speed cruising conditions, a fully warm 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2L traveling at a steady 40 mph can reach an extraordinary 63 to 72 miles per gallon (MPG). This yields an incredibly low fuel flow rate of 0.55 to 0.63 gallons per hour (GPH), or 35 to 40 milliliters per minute (mL/min).
More Ai questions to illustrate how Ai can be used to research cars:
how many miles would a 2018 mirage clutch last until it needs to be replaced under gentle driving conditions?
Under gentle driving conditions, the factory clutch on a manual 5-speed 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage typically lasts between 80,000 and 120,000 miles before needing a replacement. Many careful owners who prioritize highway driving or perfect rev-matching even report exceeding 150,000 miles on the original setup.
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what is a good price for a 2018 mirage 5spd hatchback with 25,000 or 100,000 miles?
A good private party purchase price for a 5-speed manual 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage ES hatchback is $5,500 to $6,800 for a low-mileage 25,000-mile example, and $3,200 to $4,200 for a higher-mileage 100,000-mile example.
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how much to replace the tires on a 2018 mirage with 14″ wheels?
The total out-of-the-door cost to replace all four tires on a 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage with 14-inch wheels ranges from $240 to $560, depending entirely on the tire brand you select.
Because the Mirage uses an incredibly tiny, lightweight tire size (165/65R14), its tires are among the least expensive passenger car tires on the automotive market.
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what is 2018 mirage curb weight with or without the passenger seats?
The factory curb weight of a 5-speed manual 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage ES hatchback is 2,018 pounds. If you remove all of the passenger seats (the front passenger seat and the entire rear seat assembly), the curb weight drops to approximately 1,933 pounds.
what is the calculated fuel economy in mpg for a 2018 mirage 5 spd hatchback at 40, 50, 60, 70 mpg increments under ideal flat road conditions, 70 F, no wind
Speed Fuel Economy
40 MPH 63 – 72 MPG
50 MPH 55 – 65 MPG
60 MPH 45 – 52 MPG
70 MPH 37 – 42 MPG
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best of all you can get the drag coefficient and drag area with Ai:
what is the coefficient of drag and CdA of a 2018 mirage hatchback
The 2018 Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback has an official Coefficient of Drag of 0.27.
Frontal Area: Factoring in standard ground clearance and the tapering curves of the greenhouse glass, the calculated front-facing area is 21.97 square feet.
The Math: (0.27 times 21.9ft^2 = 5.93ft^2
Morning, Jack –
My truck gets terrible mileage – about 22 MPG average, which is awful given it has a four cylinder engine. But I do not have to drive it everyday – and I have motorcycles I can drive in all but the worst weather that get 60 MPG. I used to have a dual sport that got 100-plus. I wish I still had that bike.
RE: “I have been studying what car I should get to survive the Trumpenstein Apocalypse.”
Maybe, think outside, The Box? And get a donkey, or a bicycle?
Civic, or any high mileage whatever ain’t much use at all if all the pumps are empty.
…Empty pumps,… that’s next. Seems to be The Plan.
Starvation-city, get ’em ALL in line. ? Who knows.
Doubtful oil goes to $150 any time soon. That would imply that most of the population could and would continue their lives as usual, but paying $7 a gallon. And at least 50% more for groceries. That just can’t happen. Way too many are living on a much slimmer margin. They will have no choice but to drop out of buying the same amount of gas.
Too bad lefties are such assholes. Had we gone balls to the wall on coal and nukes, we could have had enough electricity to be able to switch to electric. But, no, they couldn’t compromise. They had to have everything, all at once.
I mean, think about it. If this whole mess is over a mere 20% reduction in supply, what happens to the price if there is 20% reduction in demand?
hat’s true, Steve –
But what’s really too bad is this stupid, evil war Trump began and now cannot extricate us from.
Fair enough. It made life for Americans worse with, so far, little to show for it.
But I don’t agree it was stupid, other than this idiotic forever “ceasefire”. As it turns out, Iranian negotiators started talks with revealing they were within two weeks of having enough weapons grade uranium for up to 11 bombs. Was that true, or another Iranian lie for a stronger bargaining position?
If it was true, maybe a couple for Little Satan (Israel) and a couple for Great Satan (US). That leaves maybe 7 more if that wasn’t enough to kick off the final battle that will bring their Mahdi back out of occultation, and bring about the Day of Judgement (Yawm al-Qiyamah). These guys are infinitely more scary than Jim Jones or whats-is-face Applewhite. Those guys only sought the deaths of their followers.
See the AIPAC bot is back! Why don’t you go murder a 7 month old baby and “slightly wound his (unarmed) parents” — the mother’s still in hospital
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-troops-fire-at-vehicle-in-hebron-killing-7-month-old-baby-and-wounding-his-parents/
Instead of complaining about peace “idiotic forever “ceasefire,”” Why don’t you go arrest college students, women soccer players, including an American college student for tweeting the truth (not lies about a wadi) about the genocidal Jewish state of Israel?
“Abdullah Zaghari, head of the Palestinian Prisoners’ Club, said there had been a marked increase in the detention of girls and women, particularly university students and former prisoners.
“He said many arrests were being carried out under allegations of “incitement”, often linked to social media activity expressing opposition to the occupation or solidarity with Palestinians.
“He added that they are at risk due to punitive Israeli prison measures, including abuse, medical negligence and solitary confinement.
“The number of arrests of male and female university students has increased under this pretext, which has no legal basis whatsoever,” Zaghari said.
“These arrests are part of ongoing acts of revenge against the Palestinian people by the occupation.”
“The Palestinian Prisoners’ Club said the number of women currently held in Israeli prisons has risen to 89, including three children, three pregnant women and two women with cancer.
Most are being held in Damon Prison, while others remain in interrogation and detention centres.
“At least 19 women are held under administrative detention after being accused of incitement – a procedure that allows imprisonment without charge or trial for renewable periods indefinitely.”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/acts-revenge-israel-arrests-palestinian-women-footballers-and-students
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Times of Israel. 6.4.26. “US senator demands release of US citizen seized by IDF in West Bank on Tuesday. “US Senator Chris Van Hollen calls for the release of Sama Safi, a 20-year-old American citizen, who was among the Birzeit University students arrested by the Israel Defense Forces on Tuesday.
“Israeli security forces came to her home at 3 a.m. in the morning, and just took her without explanation. She told them she was an American citizen. They didn’t care,” Van Hollen reports, in a video posted to X.
“The IDF said at the time that the four women were suspected of “promoting terrorist activities and additional terrorism-related activities.”
“Safi has a medical condition that needs treatment, Van Hollen reports he was told by the student’s mother.
“The Democratic senator says Israel is holding Safi without charges, and has not told her family or the US Embassy where she is being held or why…”
Hi Steve,
Yes, but there is also the End Times Eschatology hewed to by both Jews and evangelical Christians. The former recently immolated some red heiffers as part of a bizarre ritual they believe is required to hasten the coming of their messiah. The latter believe their messiah already came – and is coming again, soon. Damn. I just wrote what sounds like a review of a porn flick.
Right. I’m opposed to any of them having nukes.
Hi Steve,
In principle, I am opposed to Iran developing nuclear weapons as well. That said, the only way Iran and other states can checkmate the Israeli state is via a nuclear deterrent. I understand their position and do not condemn them for it. If precious Israel were to give up its hundreds of existing nukes and agree not to develop any new ones and submit to credible inspections, etc. then I’d support the same as regards Iran and other states in the region.
But Israel is an effronterous state that screeches about Iran possibly developing a nuke while it not only has them but refuses to admit it does have them – and has so emasculated the government of this country that the federal government won’t even admit the truth because if it did, then “aid” to precious Israel would have to be cut off.
I have nothing against any Jewish person, per se. Because one cannot help being born into that faith (just as one cannot help being born black or white). But I loath Zionism and despise the state of Israel.
Why have an “idiotic forever “ceasefire” when you can bomb Beirut, a city with no air defenses, and a country with no air force (because the Jewish state says no one can have an army or guns except the Jews!).
@15:56 “Young Albanians have decided to take their fight to its logical end. They want corrupt Israeli sto Eddie Rama face the consequences for compromising with the country’s sovereignty. As an Albanian, I will tell you why we are rioting. We are rioting because there is no schools. There is no pension for pensionist. There is no hospital. There is no medicine. There is no parks for kids. There is no normal salary. You’re telling us you want to build a five-star resort to give jobs to Albanians. Meanwhile, the whole Albania is filled up with Philippines working for less than what you pay us. It’s not their fault. They have nothing back home. You want to build a five-star resort? How about you clean up the mess you’ve made for the last 15 years? We are so tired of you embarrassing us worldwide telling CNN that there’s no protest going on. It’s fake news. There’s no land being rented off. Meanwhile, Ivanka Trump is on an interview saying she discovered an island. How convenient. Two years ago, you changed the law and in a protected area now you can build as long as it attracts tourism. And how convenient for Miss Ivanka Trump. The landing question has bunkers, tunnels, and it’s in a strategic position for whatever they’ve got planned. Maybe my parents didn’t have the strength because they were forced to go somewhere else for their future. But me, I must speak up every chance that I have. This is not going to happen on the M watch. Mr. Adama, you’re done.” [The IDF will be by to sic their trained German Shepherd anal rape dog on her before they haul her away to prison.]
@18:11 latest iranian lego video about netanyahu and trump “negotiating” with President of Lebanon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_kWrEiVRbE
You want a war, Steve. We are ready. Bring it on. The intifada has been globalized.
Have you ever ventured outside your echo chamber? Even just once?
HA! Yah.
I imagine he/she/it is a robot.
Moshe Trumpsteinberg (MIGA) will build a golden trailer park by the UFC arena.
Let them eat gefilte fish.
Paula White is speaking jive again it translates to they had to select an absolute moron for bomb bomb Iran.
Good stuff, Brawndo!
Lindsey Graham’s (AI)PAC, Team Graham, Incorporated, sent me a big glossy mailer today showing Lady Lindsey effeminately smiling alongside Donald Trump. The photo’s background is blurred — intentionally, no doubt — so it’s hard to tell if the setting is the Oval Office, Epstein Island, or maybe Princess Fairytale Hall in Magic Kingdom at Disney World.
‘SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM.
ENDORSED BY TRUMP. TRUSTED BY TRUMP.
Supported President Trump’s efforts to eliminate Iran’s nuclear threat and stood with Israel against Radical [sic] Islamic terrorism.’
Apparently, very few people actually read Agenda 2030. This is deliberate to shove the West into austerity, a fancy jew word for poverty. Same gameplan they used on Romans, Venetians, Dutch and English…control the $, steal everything, jack up debt, endless war, then destroy and burn the motherfucker down on the way out. Next stop, China. They shipped the manufacturing and the gold, now leave a wasteland.
Morning, Celt –
Yup. I think you’re right. Not many people really know much about this “2030” stuff. But I think they will, soon enough. We’re less than four years away, after all.
Where Graham is mistaken is that God blessed Israel the man (AKA Jacob) not Israel the nation state. The current occupiers of Israel are not descendants of Jacob. They are Khazarians. And even if they were real, God kicked them out in the new testament. “Contrary to the assertions of Scofield-duped Christian Zionist evangelicals, God gave NO everlasting unconditional promise of national perpetuity to the Old Covenant nation of Israel. God’s promises of blessings to Old Covenant Israel were conditional to Israel’s obedience to God.
An unconditional everlasting promise was given to the man Abraham. And this promise was fulfilled in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ. (Galatians 3:16, 28, 29) But to the nation of Old Covenant Israel was no such promise given.
Moses, the man through whom God gave Israel its conditional covenant, made it crystal clear to the nation just how conditional God’s covenant was to them.
But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people.
And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.
Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.
(See Deuteronomy 28:15 – 68)
In these and many other passages of Scripture, God promised to remove the children of Israel from the promised land (Canaan) forever, because of their disobedience. In this chapter in Deuteronomy, Moses predicted the destruction of Israel by the Assyrians, the destruction of Judah by the Babylonians and the destruction of the Judahite remnant by the Romans.
In short, Old Covenant Israel violated its covenant with God, and God did what Moses declared He would do: He expelled them from the promised land and destroyed their nation forever. The Israelis in Palestine today are NOT Biblical Israelites; they are NOT the biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; and they are NOT God’s chosen people.
The Israelis are the children of Japheth, not Shem, as are the rest of the Eastern Europeans from which they descended. They have ZERO God-given land covenant in Palestine. They have ZERO promise of national perpetuity from God; there is ZERO promise from God for anyone who attempts to bless, assist, aid or support the Zionist state.
In truth, from its very inception in 1948, the State of Israel has proven itself to be a devilish, murderous, barbaric people—a plague of racism, hatred, ethnic cleansing, war and genocide upon the world. And the more the United States has entangled itself economically, militarily, morally and spiritually with Israel, the more America has invoked the curse of God upon it to the point that today America is little more than a vassal state of the most vile, wicked and bloodthirsty country on the planet.”
https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4837/The-Zionist-Experiment-Is-Over.aspx
I’m a Christian, but not a Christian Zionist.
Palestinian baby shot dead by Israeli troops in occupied West Bank
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/06/palestinian-baby-shot-dead-israeli-troops-occupied-west-bank
Fucking animals.
And yet they have the gall to bitch and moan about Nazis…
Pentagon raises alarm over “hyper-aggressive” Israeli spying
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-raised-threat-israeli-spying-us-highest-level-sources-say-rcna348565
“Our greatest ally” LOL
That’s called a “Limited hangout”.
A limited hangout is a tactic used in politics and media where only part of the truth is revealed to manage perception, often to distract from more damaging information that is being withheld. It originated in espionage and is used to mislead the public while admitting some facts. Unfortunately, while leveling Israel might seem like a solution, they are merely the face of the problem. You have the Blackrocks, the IMF and Goldman Sachs, Bill Gates and all the other (many anonymous) Satan’s minions to contend with. They are the powers that be, who really control things.
Maybe. As usual, I’m going to wait 48 hours before formulating an opinion either way. And, as usual, I’m skeptical of anything in mainstream media. Particularly when, if you read the story, it’s one anonymous source (wise on his part, assuming he exists).
But how many of these anonymous sources have been just lying, playing politics before? Ciarmella and Vindman, obviously, but the 51 intelligence officials who signed off on Russian Collusion?
Or how about Harry Reid, who spread the false story about Romney’s taxes? When confronted, he just said, “Worked, didn’t it?”
If this is what winning looks like, I can’t wait to start losing.
Will We Reminisce About Thirty Cent per Kilowatt Electricity?
The fix is in:
‘On Saturday, Tesla Chief Designer Franz von Holzhausen told the crowd at the Tesla Takeover Europe event that the Roadster is coming “in a few weeks.”
‘Absolutely perfect timing for the long-awaited EV supercar, considering the SpaceX IPO is next Friday and there are rumors that a SpaceX-Tesla merger could become a 2027 story.
‘A Tesla Roadster that could outperform Ferrari’s Luce EV at a fraction of the cost is pure American innovation.’
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/tesla-chief-says-ev-supercar-roadster-coming
Underway now, the SpaceX IPO is destined to become the biggest swindle since the South Sea Bubble of 1720 — the runaway popular delusion that robbed the great Isaac Newton of his fortune late in life.
Naturally Elon — self-appointed emperor of his million-strong Martian colony — is going to pull out all the stops and run his electric Kool-Aid hype machine, pedal to the metal.
As ol’ P.T. Barnum used to bark, This way to the egress, folks! Dumb asses thought the egress was a cute baby eagle … 🙁
Ok ya all, I just thought of a new way to calculate the price of gasoline based on the price of cars. Let’s start during stable times:
I asked Goolag Ai: “what was the cost of a 1965 pickup vs gasoline cost at the pump?”
A brand-new, base-model work truck cost roughly $2,000 to $2,400, while a gallon of regular gasoline at the pump averaged just $0.31 per gallon
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what is the cost of a 1975 truck vs the price of gasoline at the pump
In 1975, a new base-model half-ton pickup truck carried an MSRP of roughly $3,600 to $4,200, while regular gasoline at the pump had jumped to a national average of $0.53 to $0.57 per gallon
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what is the cost of a 1985 truck vs the price of gasoline at the pump
A brand-new, base-model half-ton pickup truck carried an MSRP of $7,300 to $8,400, while regular unleaded gasoline at the pump averaged $1.20 per gallon.
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what is the cost of a 1995 truck vs the price of gasoline at the pump
A brand-new, base-model half-ton pickup truck carried an MSRP of roughly $13,900 to $14,800, while regular unleaded gasoline at the pump averaged a remarkably low $1.15 to $1.21 per gallon
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what is the cost of a 2005 truck vs the price of gasoline at the pump
A brand-new, base-model half-ton pickup truck carried an MSRP of roughly $18,200 to $21,300, while the national average for regular 87-octane gasoline at the pump climbed to $2.33 per gallon (spiking over $3.00 by late summer).
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what is the cost of a 2015 truck vs the price of gasoline at the pump
A brand-new, base-model half-ton pickup truck carried an MSRP of roughly $26,000 to $27,900, while the national average for regular 87-octane gasoline dropped to $2.43 per gallon
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what is the cost of a 2025 truck vs the price of gasoline at the pump
A brand-new, base-model 2025 half-ton pickup truck carried an MSRP of roughly $37,000 to $40,000, while the U.S. national average for regular 87-octane gasoline fell to $3.10 per gallon.
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Ratio of MSRP pickup to gasoline per gallon:
Year
1965 7096
1975 7090
1985 6541
1995 1200
2005 8584
2015 1111
2025 12580
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Average 44,202/7 = 6314
What is the average price of a 2026 pickup?
$40,000/6314 = $6.33 /gallon 87 octane gasoline
I could care less what Orange turd says, according to the above calculation, over 7 decades, gasoline is still cheap at $4 a gallon.
RE: “gasoline is still cheap at $4 a gallon.”
Yah. Sure. Do tell yourself that.
It’s ~5 Cents a gallon in the Constitutional money of the United States,
Problem is, nobody gets paid wages in real Dollars.
Gasoline was cheap at 79 Cents per gallon.
Also, HA! “What is the average price of a 2026 pickup?”
Who the fook cares? It’s an overpriced non-durable appliance!
Maintenance costs and repairs will eat the owner alive, it’s an alligator.
Say it with me: it’s a mega-depreciating liability.
See also: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2026/06/eric-peters/right-to-repair-is-meaningless/
Americans don’t make cars anymore, they make debt trap machines.
Boomers gonna boom.
Gas is cheaper than it was when priced in silver or gold.
The problem is brainwashed Boomers think in dollars. They have been indoctrinated from their youth to think of the dollar as a constant. Something that never changes. Something that other things like gas, food, etc can be measured against.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Well, Gump – I’m not a Boomer, first of all. Gen X guy here. All I know is that just six months ago, regular unleaded was about $2.80. Now it’s $4.20. The cost has gone up bigly in just six months.
All for what?
This stupid, god-damned war that Trump started because Israel told him to.
‘Brainwashed Boomers think in dollars.’ — Forrest Chump
You must be new here. The steady upward march of prices — and the steady devaluation of their ‘elastic’ fiat numéraire — is a daily staple of commentary.
Some contributors were around when silver coinage still circulated in the US. Never will they accept the legitimacy of counterfeit currency — or those who ’emit’ it.
Death to the money changers.
The generational gaslighting gets tiresome, doesn’t it?
Plenty of assholes abound in every age cohort – just as there are excellent people in every age cohort. As far as the cost of gas: We’re not dealing with an incremental, inflationary increase; we are dealing with a real (and yuge) increase. Six months ago – before Trump launched his war for Israel – gas cost abour $2.80 nationally. It is now about $4.20 nationally. This is a real-world and dramatic/sudden cost increase, not just the number getting bigger.
Well Eric, those ignorant gas lighting weasles conveniently ignore the toxic effects of the federal reserve and their inflation inducing funny money. They evidently see no issue in the goobermint borrowing money we don’t have to give away to foreign countries who buy things from the military industrial complex. A massive money laundering scam if there ever was one. Kinda like cliiiiiimate chaaaaange. We’re all tax slaves, and inflation is just another tax.
A.) Nobody uses gold/silver for purchases and B.) Life isn’t math – all values are subjective. This is when the autistic libertarian gets really annoying because they don’t care to understand people.
Logan,
Why the need to denigrate people who have different ideas about money? What you want to remember is that money is essentially a medium of exchange, at least according to Von Mises…see A theory of money and credit. Right now most people use credit cards for most purchases, at least that’s my experience from my toy retirement job in retail sales. But money is whatever two parties agree on. Gold and silver have a place for protecting the value of one’s holdings….if/when the SHTF your dollars will be worthless. But gold, silver and ammo will be worth a lot. BTW, as an interesting aside, one regional currency alternative is goldbacks…..24K gold is atomized and deposited between two layers of plastic with really nice artwork….the denominations go down to 1/4000 oz of gold and they can be exchanged for goods and services…..there’s a steep overhead, but the concept is sound….it does give people a way to actually use gold as currency…
There are a number of states with goldback series currently…closest one to VA is actually Florida. If interested have a gander at goldback.com…oh, BTW, goldbacks offer the same anonymity protections as using cash…every time you swipe a card, it feeds the beast.
Two words. Federal Reserve. The only legal producers of counterfeit money.
Hey Forrest, why not measure the price of gasoline in hot dogs, cheeseburgers or some other medium of exchange that no uses for making everyday purchases? I’ll bet gas is much cheaper today in french fries and Coca Cola than it was the 1970s, eh?
Wow good comeback 7-11 /s
Maybe start by obtaining some education on what money is and why gold and silver were mediums of exchange for millennia.
Stupid is as stupid does
RE: “Maybe start by obtaining some education on what money is and why…”
Yah, that. For sure. You should do so.
The cost of hot dogs and hamburgers is a good comparison.
Gas was 79 Cents a gallon.
Hamburgers were 49 Cents each.
Compare to today.
Also, people seemed much happier then.
Perhaps, salt prices would better suit you?
It was at one time, ‘money’ afterall.
Odd that. The price of salt.
1 more:
‘What is Money’?
https://mises.org/search?articles_prod%5Bquery%5D=what%20ismoney
“Order of magnitude”
This is the problem with Murica. No one knows maff.
Not the CEO of an oil company. Not the journalists reporting this. And surely not the man on the street.
Order of magnitude is a 10x change.
If you really believe this to be true, better go front run the oil futures market today because what you’re saying is you believe a barrel of oil will be pushing $1k plus but the market hasn’t figured this out yet.
Don’t wait. Act fast.
Also from the transcript which no one is reporting on
“ Well, you know, I’m a terrible predictor of price, so I’m not going to do that.” Neil Chapman
So this assclown doesn’t even know what he said and refused to back his own order of magnitude assertion from moments earlier
As always – gotta check the sources for yourself because the journalists among us can’t be bothered.
Well, “Maff man” –
What I wrote is what the man said. As well as other men. And I write under my real name – unlike weasels such as yourself, who use fake names (multiple fake names) to leave their droppings online.
‘Americans are paying for it [Trump’s war].’ — eric
Here’s the cynical advice of the Israel Lobby to their loyal agent, Traitor Trumpowitz:
‘”Mark Dubowitz” of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies has argued that Trump should use the cease-fire to get the American economy back on track, and then only later, in the fall, to “start to think about returning to major military operations but not doing it before the midterms, when the knock-on effects could be very difficult for him politically.”’
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2026/06/war-on-iran-iran-needs-escalation-to-avoid-the-ceasefire-trap.html
Our Israeli occupiers are well aware of the US political cycle, and adroitly exploit it to their advantage. They hope to divert our gaze from the debacle they caused until November … and then escalate their disastrous war.
Indeed, the November-December interregnum of a lame duck Congress is a favored window for Israeli atrocities, while Congressional leadership is in transition and actual Americans are distracted by holidays such as Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year which Israelis don’t celebrate (their new year, perversely, is in September).
No accommodation is possible with these profoundly alien, Bizarro World occupiers, who share none of our values.
See it for 4.05 yesterday for regular but I don’t expect it to go back to the old price.
Used to be said that 5$ a gallon and up would signal the end. Have not noticed less drivers here. Maybe more, many from California, yack!. I cut my driving quite a bit. Everything is batched, twice a week in town. I even set it up in order of stops so I never have to make a left turn, except once.
7-8$ and above is the price where it was speculated civil war would kick off. Not sure I really want a civil war. However, the international leftist cabal controlling the Ds should never be allowed near power again. It will be worth taking up arms for me if they succeed in stealing another fuckin election and taking over my beloved state of Arizona. At this point all you can do is have your red lines and be ready to unleash hell if they are crossed.
These elections in California are so in yer face. over the top, pure tyrannical lawlessness, put on and baby-coddled by steaming piles of human garbage.. Anyone, who still considers unverified, remote drop box, weeks long mail in voting as some form of necessary entitlement for the survival of our democracy, is a filthy communist that can eat a bag of dicks. Voting should be a one day, in person, ID verified event. The precincts should have until the next day to count and turn in all their ballots. The state should have 24 hours to announce the winner.
Arizona is right on the edge. Our governor, Secretary of State, and Attorney general are all communist owned, Soros stooges. All three DEI hires are on the ballot. They have taken Arizona back a decade or more in housing affordability, and general quality of life. The uni-party of our state is pushing hard. High density housing, Tech industry, and data centers are being fought against all over the state. Homelessness zones in Phoenix are much larger than they’ve ever been. Almost like it was in the late 70s again. It’s just like Phoenix and Tucson turned into a little mini shithole LA. Radical feminists and communists ruin everything when their vile philosophy is allowed to fester.
All while POS Trump does nothing. Having the power of the presidency to shut it down, yet focusing on evil/stupid little terror states in the ME was the worst decision a president has ever made in my lifetime. The Jacobians are inside the walls. I’m sure they cant wait to open the borders again They are unapologetic and demanding political violence. It may be getting time where there is no other choice than to give it to them.
The two highways by my house are soooo quite at night now.
They used to be quite busy.
Reminds me of 2008 when Brady St. & Harrison St. in Davenport, Iowa would be empty at night. Empty.
The real reason gasoline prices are going up:
Israel assassinated JFK and we did nothing
Israel attack the USS Liberty and we did not prosecute Israel
Israel attack the WTC on 911 to get us in wars that cost us trillions. Still to this day the media repeats the big lie that Arabs attacked us. NO! Jews attacked us!
Israel fakes the Oct 7th attack, we go along with it, it was Israel that shot up it’s own citizens with US attack helicopters
Israel fakes Trump’s assassination, then we voted for Trump because we are ignorant of false flags
Israel will continue to abuse Amerika until we are no more unless we wake up and send these monsters packing
All dual citizens must be removed from our government, all Senators who take money from Israel prosecuted for treason
We must remove Orange MIGAturd and put lady boy Lindsey Graham in an insane asylum
Have you ever wondered why a sellout to Israel (like Trump) is NOT assassinated like a pro-Amerikan president JFK? Well, wonder no more, superstar Ryan Dawson spells it out:
Ryan Dawson: JFK, RFK, AIPAC, And The Files Washington Still Won’t Fully Explain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXqFhJg4zjM
Steve Yang asks Ryan Dawson about JFK, RFK, uranium, Israel, AIPAC, Dimona, and the political environment surrounding the Kennedy assassinations. Dawson lays out his argument that Kennedy was challenging Israel’s nuclear program, foreign-agent lobbying structures, and Middle East policy before his assassination. The conversation then moves into Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan, forensic questions, bullet counts, witness claims, and Dawson’s view of how the RFK assassination connects to the same broader power structure.
YJ..
I thought everyone knew that!!
You’re telling me they don’t????
Oh boy, we are In deep shit ….
Glad I’ll be 70 this year..
It’s even worse than most people realize, I saw a post the other day that pointed out all those ships that have been sitting around for months are now encrusted with barnacles that will gimp their movement tremendously. Showed a picture of a propeller so loaded with barnacles that it could barely function. Will take a lot of money and time in dry dock to clean all that crap off.
if they ever make it back to their home port, if I was the owner I would be paying Iran to be allowed to remove my empty vessel out of that trap and get it free of that quagmire
how many cargo ships and oil tankers have been attacked since the iran war began?
Since the outbreak of the war involving Iran on February 28, 2026, there have been 45 confirmed maritime incidents involving commercial vessels and offshore infrastructure across the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz, and Gulf of Oman
How is it that our own oil/refinery production is not being used here at home for us? How is it that a President can allocate private oil company production to go overseas instead of staying right here?
No reason for our cost of oil to be so high, we are the highest producer of oil in the world, or clsoe to it.
Baffling. Why does the world price of oil matter to us?
Indeed, and I expect Trump to sign a temporary EO prohibiting oil exports if prices go higher. The world may be screwed but we do have the ability to make all the gas and diesel we need.
The cost of oil is international and dictated by the USA petrodollar. All barrels of oil are traded on a world-wide market controlled by the US, and can only be purchased with US currency. The US dollar is up as of May 2026.
US oil is light, local refineries can’t provide the diesel and jet fuel fractions without heavy oil inputs from Canada and Venezuela, among others.
I have no idea what gasoline will cost for the rest of the year, but the RBOB chart shows a drop (retail is a $1.25 or more greater than the wholesale contract price)
https://finviz.com/futures_charts?t=RB&p=d
“Reformulated Blendstock for Oxygenate Blending RBOB is the standard grade of gasoline traded on the commodities market. When you see news reports about “gasoline prices” or “oil futures” surging, they are usually referring to RBOB futures contracts on the CME Group”
I asked Google Ai, who knows, maybe Ai knows
“what is the elliott wave count for gasoline for the next year”
The broader technical consensus among Elliott Wave analysts points to a highly bullish long-term outlook for gasoline futures (RBOB/GASOLINE) over the next year. The market has recently wrapped up a major macro corrective cycle and is now positioned on the early operational launchpad of a powerful Impulsive Wave 3 higher.
what is the elliott wave gasoline RBOB price to the end of 2026?
The dynamic technical consensus for Elliott Wave targets projects wholesale NYMEX RBOB Gasoline futures to reach between $3.63 and $3.88 by the end of 2026. Extreme bullish extensions place an outer macro boundary at $4.99 if a nesting Wave 3 accelerates sharply into the winter
“Netanyahu, who is ethnically an eastern European and so unrelated, biologically, to the Semitic/Arab people of the Middle East”
“Ashkenazi Jews historically migrated from the eastern shores of the Mediterranean to Europe, particularly moving west to Italy after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 C.E. Over time, they spread into the Rhineland and further east into Central and Eastern Europe, especially during the medieval period”
The Ashkenazi Jews have lived in parts of Europe for two thousand years. Over time their blood(DNA) has been watered down appreciably. They have been very successful financially and have been able to enlist some of the more desirable of European females into their group. What do DNA testing tools reveal? That’s the question. A member of my family did the DNA test and found no Jewish(Ashkenazi or *Sephardic Jews) ancestry.
*”Ashkenazi Jews are primarily descendants of Jews from Germany, France, and Eastern Europe, while Sephardic Jews originate from Spain, Portugal, North Africa, and the Middle East. Both groups share common Jewish beliefs but have distinct cultural practices and traditions”
read more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Europe
So the question is; Is one Jewish because of Blood or religion?
Read what Solzhenitsyn had to say; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Hundred_Years_Together
“Two Hundred Years Together (Russian: Двести лет вместе, Dvesti let vmeste) is a two-volume historical essay by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. It was written as a comprehensive history of Jews in the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union and modern Russia between the years 1795 and 1995, especially with regard to government attitudes toward Jews”
Read and decide about the DNA and blood.
His real name is Benjamin Mileikowsky, his parents are both Polish, and from Poland… he changed his name so you didn’t realize he’s a settler
https://concisepolitics.com/2017/05/22/who-and-what-is-the-real-bibi-netanyahu/
“Netanyahu was born in 1949 in Tel Aviv. His mother, Tzila Segal, was born in Petah Tikva in the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem—her family had migrated from Minneapolis in 1911, having relocated there from Lithuania in the 1870s—and studied law at Gray’s Inn, London. His father, Warsaw-born Benzion Netanyahu (né Mileikowsky), was a historian specializing in the Jewish Golden Age of Spain. His paternal grandfather, Nathan Mileikowsky, was a rabbi and Zionist writer. When Netanyahu’s father immigrated to Mandatory Palestine, he adopted a Hebrew surname of “Netanyahu”, meaning “God has given.” While his family is predominantly Ashkenazi, he has said that a DNA test revealed some Sephardic ancestry”
So as you can see Netanyahoo and his families are Jewish and not Polish. If a black African is born in Europe does that make him a European! I think not. If a Jew is born in Europe does that make him a European. I think not.
“he two most powerful lobby groups in Washington, D.C., are the military-industrial complex and the State of Israel—but then I repeat myself. For all intents and purposes, the military-industrial complex—and now the intelligence-industrial complex (Peter Thiel and Palantir et al.)—and Zionist Israel are one and the same. The Israel lobby spent over $30 million defeating Thomas Massie, because he would not submit to the Israeli government. I believe Charlie Kirk was assassinated for the same reason.
By and large, our congressmen and senators in Washington do NOT represent We the People of the United States; they represent the interests of Benjamin Netanyahu and the Zionist government in Tel Aviv.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2026/06/chuck-baldwin/ndaa-will-give-israel-co-command-of-u-s-military-forces/
Per LRC Massie will be on C-Span Monday at Noon, Eastern, talking about the USS Liberty. Maybe they’ll finally be held to account…
https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/thomas-massie-to-honor-uss-liberty-crew-on-attack-anniversary/
I will try to watch that, I hope by announcing it ahead of time he won’t have an “accident” before that time arrives.
“Americans may soon be paying a much heavier price for Trump’s war on behalf of Israel. This is not a pejorative assertion – much less an “anti-Semitic” one”
-I don’t care if they call me an “anti-Semite.” Fuck Israel. There’s only seven million Israelis out of a world population of seven BILLION and the bastards are holding the global economy hostage, and holding 330 million AMERICANS hostage due to their narcissism.
If Iran nuked Israel off the map tomorrow it would not affect my life in the Rust Belt one damn bit. I couldn’t care less. This country existed just fine from 1776-1948 without Israel and now every fucking politician in the country in both parties acts as if it’s the 51st state. More important than ANY state, for that matter.
There is always “no money” for old people, for medical care, for dental care, for fixing roads, for housing, etc. but there is ALWAYS money for fucking Israel. These arrogant bastards control this country like a monkey on an elephant.
Frankly I think the Jewish religion is 100% pure bullshit, but I’d be happy to ignore their religion if they kept to themselves and left us the fuck alone. But they won’t. They insist on controlling us and stealing from us and then accusing us of being “anti-Semites.”
Well, fuck that. Now I fully understand why and how anti-Semitism has existed for centuries.
“God’s Chosen People,” LOL.
God chose them to show us what assholes we should strive to not emulate.
I agree with your sentiments, X –
Israel is just another state – a dangerous one. If I must be taxed, then I’d at least like for the money extracted from me to be used to help Americans – not a foreign state. Especially an obstreperous gangster state, which is what the state of Israel is.
Of course, I’d rather not be taxed at all. If that were the case, I’d have the extra money to help Americans – neighbors and so on – who perhaps needed some help. Taxation acts as acid on the human desire to help others because it impoverishes us in the first place – causing us to be chary with our help, out of necessity. After all, if we are barely able to provide for ourselves (due to onerous taxation) then it is out of the question to consider providing for others.
The state also implicitly takes on the burden of “helping” others, thereby implicitly telling the taxed man it’s not his responsibility to help others. In other words, taxation serves to make us meaner and more selfish than we might otherwise be.
As far as the rest: I also am unpersuaded by the writings in the OT, many of which are bizarre, preposterous and arguably evil (e.g., the instructions regarding how to acquire slaves, how they may be beaten; the injunction to slaughter every human of not-chosen tribes, except of course for the nubile young girls; this idea that if you don’t believe – as if what one honestly believes can be helped – you are going to suffer torment for eternity after death, etc.). I also do not cotton to sippenhaft – the German term for punishing the families (including the children) of parents who affront the state. Well, what is our condition, according to the OT? Adam and Eve “sinned” – whatever that means – and because they did, they affronted God and we get to suffer for it. We are born defective and irredeemable – but can be “saved” if we just “believe.” Never mind whether it defies belief.
Well, why can’t this God just save us by fixing us rather than punishing us for that which we inherited – a thing over which we had no agency? The whole thing is a colossal mind fuck.
The general drift of Jesus’ teaching in the NT strikes me as ok. But when you get into the nitty gritty of it, he was a first century apocalyptic rabbi who believed the “end” was nigh and told his followers so. Well, the “end” was not nigh – at least not back then.
Now is another thing.
In my misguided youth, I wrote a parody of the Old Testament, which actually required me to read the thing in detail. My conclusion: the OT is an oral, tribal history of atrocity upon atrocity, murder, rape, genocide and psychosis. What ‘god’ demands a man murder his own son? What kind of people worship that god?
That eventually led me to Julian Jaynes and the bicameral mind. Fascinating reading, free on the webz, and not for the faint of heart.
None of the modern-era Christian zionists actually heed the New Testament or the essential teachings of Christ. I’m not a Christian personally, but the hypocrisy is visible from Alpha Centauri.
IMO the idea of “sin” is only a theological construct to make you feel guilty so you can be controlled. Before the modern state was invented, man lived under the dictats of priests.
It is extremely important to understand that the growth of the all powerful state is a concept born in the Holy Bible. In the past the priests represented god, thus you had to obey them. The secular state is an outgrowth of religious mythology, the single all powerful god demanding your obedience.
“The whole thing is a colossal mind fuck.”
Indeed, because in reality there is no such thing as sin. Sin is only a mental idea, no bearing in reality. No god gives a shit what we do, contrary to religious assertions of some bearded old man is watching our every move, just look at the headlines, man can butcher all he wants, no divine intervention.
No one needs to be saved from “sin”. No judging god – just judging Jewish writers who penned the myth. No one can be saved, no one needs to be saved, no one needs a Jewish savior to get into heaven, that is all myth. Jehovah is an angry jewish deity, a extrapolation into hyperspace of the the inner jewish mind. The only salvation we actually need is from bad jewish myth.
I say the idea of the Jews as our saviors is ludicrous and insane. Jews are the destroyers of our souls, not our saviors. Israel is demonic, no one should love Israel, that is insane. Worshipping the child killers of Israel and claiming to be Christian is double top secret bat shit insanity.
The problem with the Christian myth is that it has been turned to support an evil apartheid genocidal state – which laughably goes directly against the teachings of Jesus. Obviously, critical thinking is non-existent in the Evangelical churches – they literally can not think their way out of a wet paper bag. These morons are cheerleading Israel and the greater israel project as god’s divine will.
Most people will not spend the time to investigate the origins of the Christian myth – yet if they spent a mere two hours watching the movie Caesar’s Messiah the entire thing is explained – Rome invented Christianity as a way to tame to Zealot Jews who they were warring against. Jesus was 100% fiction created by the writers of the Gospels, who all lived in Rome and were the upper wealthy class.
Full Movie! CAESAR’S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus – OFFICIAL VERSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0
Another movie which destroys the vaiidity of the Christian myth is Zeitgeist the movie.
https://youtu.be/OrHeg77LF4Y?t=862
spend 2 hours watching Zeitgeist and your world view will be changed forever
The 2007 viral documentary Zeitgeist: The Movie argues that the story of Jesus Christ dying on the cross and resurrecting after three days is an astrotheological myth describing the annual movement of the sun during the winter solstice.
Hi Jack,
Yep. Besides which, how does this story make sense on a moral level? I am born irredeemable, a “sinful” creature – on account of our progenitor parents’ having “sinned.” So now I require forgiveness for my “sins” – which I cannot help committing, because I was born to “sin.” That’s a pretty vicious doctrine in my eyes.
Certainly, a good God would not hold me responsible for what my great-great-great-great-great (etc.) grandparents did. Even if they were the worst people ever. How does that implicate me? Surely a good God would forgive without all this cruelty and suffering. Why not nix the cruelty and suffering?
So God becomes his own son and sacrifices himself to himself as a kind of penance offering for having made me defective merchandise through the “sin” of Adam and Eve. If God is all-powerful, then surely he could have just made things such that sin and free will could co-exist. After all, he can do anything – including be the “father” and the “son” at the same time. And be immortal and yet mortal (if we are to believe he died on the cross) at the same time.
How does this make any sense, logically (and even common-sensically)? Yet I am told if I do not “believe” – because I find it not believable – then I am condemned to eternal torment. Even if I have tried my whole life to be a good man, honest and decent toward others. None of my actions matter. Only that I “believe.”
No, thanks. Odin for me, please.
Followers of Old Norse religion believed in and worshiped multiple gods and goddesses rather than a single supreme deity — as did nearly all of mankind, before ‘Israel’ introduced their vengeful monotheistic deity Yahweh at
gunpointswordpoint.Hilarity did not ensue. 🙁
Indeed, Jim –
I’m not a tattoo guy, since I’m a Gen X guy and guys in my age group only got tattoos – when we were young, anyhow – if we had been in prison or the Navy or in the Hell’s Angels. But if I were to get a tattoo, I think it’d have to be a rune. My blood carries the ancestral memories. I feel kinship with the ancient forests my ancestors walked. I have no affinity for the desert.
>I have no affinity for the desert.
I, myself, am a desert rat.
“I am the lizard king. I can do anything.”
—James Douglas Morrison
Legend has it that Jim developed his fascination with lizards when his father, Admiral Morrison, was stationed at Kirtland AFB, the Air Force “Special Weapons Center.” “Special ” = “Nuclear” as we all know.
ABQ is my home town. As a boy, I used to catch blue tailed lizards in the vacant lot down the street. They have the ability to regenerate their tails, which we do not.
EP: In what protestant sect did you learn Christianity (if any)? “I am born irredeemable [someone that is beyond repair, correction, or saving], a “sinful” creature” How can that be when Jesus Christ is your redeemer?
“So now I require forgiveness for my “sins” – which I cannot help committing, because I was born to “sin.”” Please quote chapter and verse where the Bible says that you were born to sin. Neither Adam nor Eve were created to sin: they chose to sin. Neither Judaism nor Islam believe in original sin. Christianity believes in original sin because Jesus said everyone had to be baptized/born again (Matthew 28:19; John 3:5). Why does everyone need baptism? St. Paul: “sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12); “we were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest” (Eph 2:3); King David: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5); Job 14:4: “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one.” [RC teaches Mary as she declared to Bernadette was the Immaculate Conception by God’s grace; St. John the Baptist was sanctifed in the womb also the prophet Jeremiah]
While Baptism washes the guilt of original sin and any sins a person has committed, RC teaches that “the inclination to sin remains.” Again just like crack mother, turns child into an addict and you inherit other things from your parents (STDs), sin has consequences (“the wages of sin is death”). Just like eating bad food damages your body and drugs/garbage damages your mind, the more you sin the more you darken your intellect and weaken your will/harden your heart against God. Men must master concupiscible (desire for pleasure) and irrascible appetites (how they react when going gets tough: anger, impatience, despair, fear).
Catholics believe that the first task of a Christian is to strive to avoid mortal sin because that makes you an enemy of God and a slave of the devil/path to hell. AI: “The path to avoiding sin involves a mix of the sacraments, prayer, daily discipline, and intentional lifestyle choices.”
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Protestants make nonsense of the Bible. They believe they are whited sepulchers; snow covered dung hills — even though Christ condemns the pharisees! Like EP states “born to sin”– why WOULD a good God create that? Why WOULD Jesus tell someone “Go and sin no more” (John 8:11) “Behold thou art made whole: sin no more, lest some worse thing happen to thee.” (John 5:14) or “Be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect.” (Matthew 5:48)
if it were impossible?
[Per AI this is what Protestants believe: (Luther) “Predestination: God elects those who will be saved, but humans can reject grace and lose their salvation. (Calvin) “Double predestination”: God has unconditionally chose the elect for salvation and the reprobate for damnation.]
“he could have just made things such that sin and free will could co-exist. ” Sin and free will do co-exist. [except in Protestantism (see above)] — if men are predestined to go to hell/be slaves of the devil how do they have free will? If everyone is predestined why come to redeem anyone?
If you are saying though, why can’t I use ethanol in my TA and it not wreck the engine? Why can’t I eat 400 pounds of food every day and still be thin? Why can’t I spend my money and have it in the bank? Why can’t I be God’s friend and the Devil’s too (“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.” (Matthew 6:24))?
“Yet I am told if I do not “believe” – because I find it not believable – then I am condemned to eternal torment.”
If Protestantism doesn’t make sense, why don’t you reject that? You have a Bible. One person here said they were going to convert to Catholicism but found out they had to take instruction (I recommend going to a traditional Catholic priest and not the RCIA protestantized instruction). Not sure why that would be a problem–should want to know what you are believing and why. There is much available on the internet.
The last time I responded to one of your all diatribes, EP was caviling at (1) slavery; (2) imprecatory/cursing psalms and (3) genocide. I think the NT deals with slavery pretty well. The same way St. John the Baptist tells the Roman soldiers and Publicans what to do (Luke 3:13), St. Paul tells the slave and the master what they need to do. But the key is what Jesus says: “Whoever wants to be great must become a servant. Whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave. That is what the Son of Man has done.” (Matthew 20:27) And then He got down on his knees and washed their feet. If you don’t want to be a slave, you don’t want to be a Christian. Christians started wearing chains around their necks (though I’m sure most many don’t know this) to testify they are a bond servant (slave) of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Constant theme of the Bible: you can be a slave to the devil and worship him with your sins or you can be a slave of God–which is actually freedom FROM sin and death. I brought you out of the land of Egypt (where the Israelites were slaves).
Imprecatory Psalms: these are Psalms/prayers David prayed to God. They were written BC (before Christ), when we were commanded to love our enemies and do good to those who hate us. But they are revealed/inspired and in the Bible for a reason. David didn’t kill Saul when he had him at his mercy in the cave. David let God deal with Saul. He prays these things but puts the action into God’s hands: he doesn’t dash anyone’s head–but yet he’s angry about something and crying out to God for justice. I think many people write imprecatory psalms on this site about the Palestinian issue and government corruption. Maybe EP also. You allow because of free speech. Maybe God allows because of free speech.
Genocide: It is clear in the Bible that God only commands people who have sinned be destroyed. You can look up on the internet and get answers if you are interested. Many of these people like the Jebusites that Joshua supposedly destroyed reappear. Elijah goes to a canaanite widow and Jesus heals the daughter of a Canaanite woman (Matthew 15).
As you allude, however, like with slavery, if you’re gonna get your knickers in a wad about genocide over 100,000 die every day on this planet (everyone dies): why was there the flood/prophecy world will be destroyed by fire? God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. A concubine of a visitor to a town is gang raped to death similar to Sodom (Gen 19) in Judges 19 and God orders the other 11 tribes to destroy the tribe of Dan. Only 2 of the 2-3 million brought out of Egypt saw the promised land–and a prostitute Rahab. A lot were killed in the wars and trials in the desert but also: 3000 for worshiping the Golden Calf; 14700 Rebellion of Korah; 24000 Baal Peor (Numbers 25); 10 spies for bringing back a poor report on the promised land died of plague; following this, Israelites who attempted to enter the land without permission were routed and slaughtered by the Amalekites and Canaanites (Numbers 14). Many were bitten by venomous snakes for complaining and when they repented God instructed Moses to raise up the caduceus (Numbers 21) that they could look at it and live. [The more I read the Bible, the more I watch the seeds: acorns, maple propellers, think of your own–they blanket the earth and most of them get washed down the drain.]
The reason I’m responding is last time I had just found out about Eid al-Adha (the Festival of Sacrifice)(May 26 this year). I didn’t know that biggest holiday in Islam celebrates Abraham sacrificing his son and God replacing it with a ram–and they do an animal sacrifice (Corban). AI: “to honor the unwavering faith and obedience of Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) to God.
“Eid Salah: The day begins early with a ritual bath and dressing in clean, new clothes. Muslims gather in large congregations at mosques or open fields to perform a special prayer.
“Charity: Before the prayers on Eid al-Fitr, Muslims give a mandatory charity called Zakat al-Fitr. During Eid al-Adha, those who are financially able perform Qurbani, sacrificing a livestock animal and distributing the meat in thirds (1) immediate family, (2) relatives and friends, and (3) the less fortunate.”
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Jews’ holiest day is the Pasch/Passover where God spares the 1st born son of the Jews who sacrifice a spotless lamb (and eat it) and mark over their door and on the lintels (cross) with the blood of the lamb and delivers them out of slavery.
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Christians holiest day celebrates Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, spotless lamb sacrificed for our sins resurrecting from the dead. The first fruits of them that sleep. (1 Cor 15 – read the whole chapter)
More on Genocide and Cursing prayers: Genesis 18 God tells Abraham he is going to destroy Sodom because of the imprecatory Psalms He’s been receiving. Abraham bargains with God asking him if 50 good men are in the city will He spare it until God promises that if there are ten good men in Sodom, he won’t destroy it. Apparently, there are not 10 good men (see ALL weren’t born to sin, EP), but He sends angels to deliver Lot and his family. The wife looks back and gets turned into a pillar of salt.
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Genesis 18 is key scripture also because THREE men visit Abraham which Christians take to be indicative of the TRINITY. Other key passage for the trinity, is: “And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened to him: and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him. [17] And behold a voice from heaven, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Matthew 3; Luke 3: “Now it came to pass, when all the people were baptized, that Jesus also being baptized and praying, heaven was opened; [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape, as a dove upon him; and a voice came from heaven: Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased”
AJC,
I get the impression that you mean well, but none of this convinces anyone who isn’t already prone to being a “believer”.
My mom went from mainline Protestant to Christian Zionist “independent bible church” when I was around 9 and it left me with a lot of rage and it was just the so-called “Old Testament” that made me that way. And the whole Jesus story makes no sense without the “Old Testament” no matter how you try to rationalize it.
If Christianity works for you that is not an issue but please have some respect for those who do not believe and their reasons for it.
Correction NOT just the Old Testament. There is a lot to hate in the words of “Paul” ((Saul of Tarsus) as well. Talk about an authoritarian asshole! And his supposed “road to Damascus” story is no more credible than that of Joseph Smith, the angel Maroni and the golden plates.
RE: “cruelty and suffering”
It’s the result of free will in the world.
Sorry to read you choose to reject the unknown god.
The truth does seem to be within you.
However; Reject, The Light, you do.
“No, thanks. Odin for me, please.”
Very sad.
Hi Helot,
In re: cruelty and suffering being the result of “free will in the world.” Tell that to a kid with bone cancer.
“From earliest times Odin was a war god,”
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Aesir
Hi Helot,
I was being facetious. I am not persuaded (as by facts) that any of the various gods is other than a product of the human imagination. To be clear: I do not say there is no god. I do not know that. I simply state that I find the various assertions made by people about the various gods that various people believe exists to be unpersuasive. I regard the doctrine of inherited defectiveness and its corollary – that we are condemned on account of this – to be vicious beyond words. But the doctrine is psychologically brilliant in that it pays on people’s awareness of their moral imperfection and their desire to be perfect (which is impossible, of course). This is what creates guilt – and the yearning to be absolved of that guilt. It’s a brilliant method for controlling people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5K3AKl5qpc
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
Reasoned conversation is so rare these days.
We live in a world where a zebra trapped in a tar pit is pounced upon by a lion. The Lion commences to eat the zebra alive. …Such, is a child with cancer, or a teenager dying in a roadside crash?
The harvest, comes early.
At 9yrs old, or 19, or at 95, The End – is – The Beginning. ?
There is nothing in this life to suggest/support the idea we are: from nothing, for nothing, to nothing.
Also, thanks for the flashback vid my fellow Gen-Xer.
We agree, more than we disagree. I think.
” I do not say there is no god. I do not know that.”
A spark. A beginning.
The Truth, does seem to be within you. I wish you good fortune.
Senator Lindsey Graham is the quintessential warmonger in D.C. He loves and supports Israel because it is central to his Christian faith.
“U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham frequently frames his unwavering support for Israel through the lens of his Christian faith. He identifies as a Southern Baptist and often aligns his foreign policy positions with Christian Zionist perspectives.
Biblical and Spiritual Motivations
Graham frequently references the biblical covenant from Genesis 12:3, which states that God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse it. He has explicitly stated during public events and rallies that supporting Israel is an essential duty for both Americans and Christians. He often warns that if the United States “pulls the plug” on Israel, “God will pull the plug on us”.
Furthermore, at events hosted by evangelical organizations like Christians United for Israel (CUFI), Graham has described his ultimate political goal as serving God and ensuring he stands firmly with Israel before his Maker.”
If you want to know why our nation has been sold into Jewish slavery it is because of these Zionist Christians who think modern Israel is the apple in God’s eye.
In reality, Amerikans are brain washed by the Holy Bible. When the European settlers came to Amerika, they often carried the King James Bible. Many cults were formed around different interpretations, like the Mormons who were created by Joseph Smith and his seer stones.
“Historical records and eyewitness accounts indicate that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by placing a seer stone inside a hat and reading aloud the English text that appeared to him in vision.”
Amerika has 32,000 Christian denominations, many of them support Israel because of their particular beliefs. It is the madness of the text in the Holy Bible which binds retarded Christian believers to the insane mass murderers of Israel, and it is also the cumulation of centuries of faith healing, talking in tongues, blind belief in miracles, etc. Amerika was the “land of opportunity” for thousands of snake oil sham preachers to cash in on faith.
Megachurches only lead to megadeath. The only Christians who will be taken up into the air in some Rapture, are those vaporized by nukes. Real salvation is when you wake up in the Jewish matrix of evil and clearly see Billy Graham as a Judas Goat and an agent of Biblical evil, who has led millions of Amerikans straight into the mouth of the Judas lion. The Holy Bible is not holy, it is Jewish propaganda that establishes the supremacy of the Jews in the minds of the Goyim dupes.
“ Megachurches only lead to megadeath”. Absolutely, 100%. Someone really needs to do some serious research into where the money for these monstrosities (which often resemble shopping malls) came from. No doubt it has Israel/Mossad written all over it.
In that spirit, here is some MEGADETH:
Megadeth – Holy Wars…The Punishment Due
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4ui9q7eDM&list=RD9d4ui9q7eDM&start_radio=1
Hi Jack,
Yup. And yet, Graham is gay. He “lies with men.” This is considered an abomination by the God he professes to revere. Fascinating, as Mr. Spock used to say.
And of course this “devout Christian” has never been married, is well known in the DC gay scene for his closeted proclivities, and was spotted by himself at Disney World waving around a bubble wand (to get the attention of pre-adolescent boys).
Sounds like the typical Evangelical Christian Zionist to me!
Indeed, MQ –
There is something dissonant about a putative militant Christian – as Graham pretends to be – who is an active homosexual, which is clearly considered an “abomination” by the OT and thus, the God of his religion. My own opinion is that he is deliberately dissonant. He uses the Christian schtick to bamboozle the rubes in his state. Trump excels at this, too. Just wave the flag and play the Lee Greenwood song – and it doesn’t matter whether you’re an evil/sick SOB. The sight of the flag and the sound of that song mesmerizes certain people…
“ The sight of the flag and the sound of that song mesmerizes certain people…”
And makes me want to scream and run as far away as possible:)
Graham may be the most vile creature in the Senate despite some HEAVY competition,
‘There is always “no money” for old people, for medical care, for dental care, for fixing roads, for housing, etc. but there is ALWAYS money for fucking Israel.’ — X
Say it again, bro — louder. Little Shitrahell sucked down over $30 billion from ‘us’ in the past three years, including this:
‘In May 2025, the Israeli Defense Ministry said since October 2023 the United States had delivered ninety thousand tons of arms and equipment on 800 transport planes and 140 ships.’
https://www.cfr.org/articles/us-aid-israel-four-charts
Later in 2025, the number of US arms deliveries to Israel crossed the one-thousand mark. That is, the US supplied most of the ammo used to physically destroy Gaza, a city of 2.3 million, and kill tens of thousands of civilians.
This is an epic war crime, by the very people who built a monument in Washington DC to commemorate their alleged unique and unprecedented suffering in what is styled the ‘Holocaust.’ Whatever the historical truth of that matter is — it’s illegal in most of Europe to research it, which tells us it’s a pack of lies — I don’t want to hear about it any more.
That was eighty years ago, and we can’t change it. Whereas today, the joint US/Israel campaign of mass murder and ethnic cleansing is happening under our noses. To their credit, the majority of Americans have turned against Israel. But tens of millions, most of them Repugniclowns, are still okay with the US engaging in mass murder on a scale that rivals Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.
A US that’s lost its soul and turned rancid has no future. It is utterly idle to suppose that its participation in mass murder, under ‘Joe Biden’ and then Trump, won’t be unleashed domestically in the future.
As a war criminal enterprise, the US fedgov has no legitimacy. In the Declaration of Independence, the same invective which calls for overthrowing King George in 1776 easily justifies expelling the murderous Israeli-run quisling regime which torments us in 2026.
Didn’t Trump say exactly that not long ago? Something like ‘we can’t afford daycare and medical care and similar because we need the money for the $1.5 trillion war machine.’ Of course, we can’t really afford the welfare state either (budget for 2026 $1.7 trillion).
Chosen for extermination
I think we really do have space aliens among us. They are called Israelis. There’s another camp of them in Washington DC. Most of them are Israelis too. They are like cockroaches. Can’t turn over a rock without finding at least 1.
So the talks are deadlocked over $24 billion in frozen assets and Trump’s idiotic pride.
That’d be a small price to pay to end this needless catastrophe. For crying out loud, it’s their money!
It just sucks that our “best friends and greatest allies” in the region own our entire political class through bribery and blackmail.
I’ve never been more angry at a president than the Orange Man. The senile buffoon has led our country into a Koboyashi Maru-type situation (a no-win scenario) just because his Israeli paymasters, whose interests aren’t ours or the world’s, told him so.
One would think the Israelis want the U.S, crippled. The actions of these people (flooding white countries with hostile thirld worlders, promulgating abortion, porn and other dysgenic things) seem to indicate that strategy.
We’re attacking the wrong country. The Middle East wouldn’t be peaceful without Israel’s constant perfidy, but it’d be a lot quieter.
How Congress could join our military with the Israelis’ is beyond me. As I’ve stated before, we might as well dispense with elections and just have Tel Aviv tell us who our new leader will be.
The only silver lining is that normsl people are waking up to the reality that Jews have far too much influence and power out of proportion to their population size and even many of the ones. The Massie race, which was a brazen move by the Zionists, might have been the final straw there.
Indeed, Dr. –
Colonel MacGregor mentioned something the other day that I expect few Americans know about. American politicians can be dual citizens; they can have Israeli passports – but Israeli politicians cannot be citizens of other countries. This hypocrisy is characteristic of the self-chosen.
“Americans are currently paying
about twice as much for gas
as they were before Trump”
you shouldn’t say the price of gas doubled
when it is up 51% so far this year, not 100%
when candidate Grump promised to end inflation
on day one, we forgot to ask him what year
Israel convinced trump
there would be regime change
in iran, and there was regime change
But the new regime
is worse than the old regime
don’t worry, we have fake peace talks
that exclude people actually
doing the fighting, the IRGC
“Our” military won’t be the ones shooting at us, as they’ll be in the next quagmire. It will be the IDF shooting at us.
There are 195 countries in the world. If 192 of them, excepting the US, Israel and the UK had nukes, the world would be at peace.
The answer is yes. But that answer was already baked into the cake with where we are at in the financial cycle. Oil was in a secular bear market from 2008 until the lockdown low. Producers the world over have not been investing to sustain current production, some estimates are as high as $2B per day. And of course money printing has been off the charts. The war just pulled forward the next energy bull market that will take us to unimaginable heights over the next 5-10 years.