It’s hilarious that they get away with calling something like the ’17 BMW C650 GT a “scooter.”
Ok, it looks like one.
It is a step-through and it doesn’t have a manual transmission. By those measures, sure, it’s a scooter. What time does Matlock come on?
But it’s also something else.
Among my personal entourage of bikes is an ’83 Honda Silverwing – a “real” motorcycle – but of a type they don’t much make anymore . . . unless you buy a (cough) “scooter” like this BMW.
There was a time when you could pick from among any of several middleweight touring/commuter bikes, with full fairings to protect from the elements and hard bags/storage to make them just the ticket for replacing a car.
They had enough power to be comfortably highway/trip-viable, but were also light and nimble and easy to deal with in an urban/suburban environment – especially when compared with a full-size/fully faired touring bike.
My ’83 Honda is an archetype of the . . . er, type.
Then the market Went Big. You could buy little bikes, starter bikes, sport bikes – and really huge touring bikes.
Not much in the middle, at least not from the factory.
Enter (ahem) “scooters” like this BMW.
As it turns out, it is my ’83 Silverwing, re-imagined. Both bikes have liquid-cooled twin cylinder engines, though the cylinders are arranged differently (mine’s a really good copy – hey, it’s a Honda! – of a Moto Guzzi “twisted” twin, with the cylinders upright, almost, while the BMW has a parallel twin). They make almost exactly the same power (64 and 60 hp, respectively) top out around 110 MPH and deliver 50-ish MPG, no matter how hard you ride them.
But the BMW adds heated seats (two of them) as well as grips and an electrically-adjustable windshield to sweeten the pot. That and the fact that you can buy one new and fully warranted vs. a 40-year-old ratter like my ’83 GL you’d need to scour the back rows of Craigs List to find and then take your chances.
Best El Guapo it’s a sweater! voice…
It’s a scooter!
BMW makes two. This one – the C650 GT – and the nearly same-thing C650 Sport. The C650 GT emphasizes comfort (GT = Gran Touring) while the C650 Sport emphasizes . . . uh . . . sportiness.
Both are mechanically identical and differ only here and there. The Sport looks more like a sport bike from head-on, with its bike-ish fairing and headlights, is slightly shorter overall, sits a bit lower, is narrower through the hips and about 25 pounds lighter; it’s also available in sportier two-tone paint schemes – including Valencia Orange matte metallic – while the 650 GT is offered in more restrained Frozen Bronze, Blackstorm Metallic and Light White palettes.
The GT is priced just slightly higher – $10,595 to start vs. $10,095 for the Sport. Both come standard with ABS and can be fitted out with heated seats and grips, BMW Motorrad 8 GB navigation and a rear-mount hard bag for additional storage.
Also available over the counter at your BMW store are flexible fabric “scooter coats” that attach to each side of the fairing to provide additional leg protection from rain and cold.
Both versions of BMW’s C Series scooters got a major update last year and carry over to 2017 unchanged.
A middleweight touring bike . . . as far as how fast it goes, how much stuff it can carry and how comfortably it can carry you.
Corners a lot better than a full-on dresser.
It’s a scooter, after all.
WHAT’S NOT SO GOOD
Inexplicably not-locking twin cargo doors by the handlebars.
No “off” switch for the traction control/ABS.
It’s a scooter. You know the joke about scooters and fat girls… right?
Most people think 50 or 100 or so CCs when they hear “scooter.” Well, think again. This one has a 647 CCs – rounded up just slightly to 650 for the sake of sounding right, as most bike manufacturers do – and they make 60 hp. My ’83 Honda’s twin is actually closer to a 700 (673 CCs) but its 64 hp is a difference without much distinction.
Both are water-cooled and have four-valve heads and spin to 9,000-plus RPM.
One big difference between the two – other than my Honda being carbureted while the BMW is, of course, injected – is that the C650 GT’s engine is a high-compression engine: 11.6:1 – so it wants premium.
The old Honda’s compression is just 9.8:1 so – cue Elwood Blues – it’ll run good on regular gas.
But these are not cars; the tanks are small and cheap to fill regardless – and the MPGs are high. The BMW can go 200-ish miles on its 4.2 gallons – which works out about 50-52 MPG.
As it happens, this is another thing in common with my ’83 GL650 – which also gets 50-ish MPG and goes about the same distance on a full tank.
Another difference is the way the power is transmitted.
This is a “scooter,” so you expect the centrifugal clutch and single speed CVT transmission. But it’s also a BMW “scooter” – so it’s slightly surprising to find that it’s not shaft but chain drive. It looks – at a glance – like a shaftie. But that’s because the chain is enclosed in a case.
It’s bathed in oil, though – so no worries about having to grease it – and the case contains any mess. Might as well be a shaftie.
Though it is almost exactly 100 pounds heavier than my ’83 GL650 (575 lbs. vs/ 478 for the surprisingly svelte Honda) both bikes – whoops, the “scooter” and the bike – perform almost identically:
Zero to 60 in about 6 seconds and around 110 on top, all out.
This is a strange animal.
A camouflaged animal.
On the one hand, it’s a scooter – and so subject to comments about Metamucil, Depends . . . . Florida retirement communities. And it will appeal to some of that set, certainly. No shame, either. .
The hips/knees go out, but you still want to ride. Or maybe you just like the way scooters ride. No clutching. Just twist – and go.
But this one goes very fast . . . for a scooter. It is every bit as fast as my Honda – and while the Honda’s not a VFR or a CBR, it’s also not a Prius. By sport bike standards, its 14 second quarter is yawn-ish, but the fact remains that it’s still quicker than most cars.
So is the BMW.
It has no trouble maintaining 75-80 (and then some) for as many miles as you need to go on the highway. The wind protection is very good. You can adjust the tilt of the windshield to deflect the slipstream in accordance with your height and there are two manual/pull-’em-out deflectors on either side of the main gauge cluster that can be used to tailor the breeze coming at you midsection.
As it comes, you might want more wind/rain protection for your legs, but you can buy those “scooter coats” mentioned above to fill that need. The available multi-stage seat (rider and passenger) and grip heaters are superior. If it’s not really cold out, you’ll find yourself turning them down, they can get so hot. But on a cold day, that kind of heat is exactly what you want.
The thing will allow pretty radical lean angles without scraping the floorboards. I found I could get a lot more aggressive on this thing than on my Honda. Which feels (and is) top-heavy in comparison. It just takes a little mind-shift and getting used to the scooter layout, such as there not being a tank to knee. You can still use your weight to shift the bike – whoops, again! – but it’s more a steering thing than a hanging off thing.
Regardless, you can have real fun on this – with big cruiser bike dudes especially. They may ask you about your Depends, but come the corners, we’ll see who drops a load in their pants.
The chief negative – if your preference is for bikes – is there’s not much to do. Where there ought to be a clutch lever, there’s just another brake lever – and I found myself mostly (out of habit) using the one on the right to slow the BMW.
No shifting. Roll to a stop and the centrifugal clutch releases and the bike idles. Rotate the throttle and the centrifugal clutch engages and off you go.
You could ride this thing one one handed. I’m kind of surprised the C650 GT doesn’t have cupholders.
It looks like a scooter.
This is disarming. People in cars sometimes give bikers a Hard Time. So do cops. But a scooter? Being mean to one – and its rider – is kind of like being mean to nice old Uncle Fred, down in Florida.
Maybe it looks a little silly. But it’s a lot practical. The entire seat assembly swings forward, clamshell-style, to reveal a massive under seat storage well that can take helmets or groceries or Mini Me, if Vern Troyer’s available.
It’s lighted, too.
The step-through design is what appeals most to scooter prospects, though. That and a low seat height and running boards make it easier for the not-so-limber to . . . step through and sit down . . . as opposed to climbing on and off, as you would on a bike.
It may be a “scooter,” but it’s heavier than most middleweight bikes. Just 25 pounds shy of 600 pounds – before you get on.
The center of gravity is low, but all of that weight can still get away from you. It almost happened to me one time during my weeklong press loan. I was able to arrest the list – my bad, was fiddling with sail fawn at an overlook – and heave it back to vertical, but I am a pretty big and strong dude – and someone without my strength and leverage might have had troubles.
On the up (shiny) side… not only does the engine automatically cut off when you deploy the kickstand, an automatic parking brake comes on, too. The bike will not roll back on less than level surfaces – a yuge plus.
The other Little Niggle is the lack of locks for both of the storage cubbies to either side of the steering head. They are roomy, but vulnerable to anyone who decides to pop ’em open and see what you left in there.
My Honda’s cubbies have locks.
THE BOTTOM LINE
If my ’83 Honda ever falls apart (it probably won’t, it’s a Honda) or my knees/hips do (that’s a possible) then I could see myself on one of these things.
Depends and Metamucil notwithstanding.
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scooter? oh hell no.
sorry guys, the the rest of the fella’s have met and decided that scooters are for chicks and asian urban centers. that BMW was able to over-engineer a scoot changes nothing. please return the testicles that you have decided are no longer needed.
TEASING! but not really…does my puch moped mean i’m a sissy? do the other bikes in the garage help overcome the estrogen element? and don’t get me started on those retarded can-am backwards trikes…might as well wear a strap-on…
I’ll ride just about anything (ask my friends; insert Fat Girl Jokes here)… and while this thing isn’t my bag, it’s a very viable ride – as much as any 650-ish cc bike. And in some ways, superior. The cargo capacity, for instance.
But I still want a Vincent Black Shadow…
My 1983 Dodge Colt, purchased for $5144, delivered 40 mpg in town, in the winter, and up to 54 mpg on the highway, and cost $5 a week for gasoline. It also had a heater and a fully enclosed passenger compartment. And I could, and did, sleep in it a number of times.
Try a Honda PC800. Old school cool and you can find them for $3k with less than 25,000 miles. Shaft drive and storage under the seat. Greg
Interesting vehicle. I’m reminded of a review of a recumbent bike I read years ago. The author/reviewer started out by complaining about people who ride ‘bents and how they always seem to have scraggly beards, the original Bell bike helmets and shitty grins on their faces. He finished up the review saying he now understood why they’re always smiling, but he still won’t ride one. Fashion is more important than utility I guess.
But I could totally see myself buying one of these. Would make an excellent commuter, nice on the highway and not take up too much of the garage. Or hang it off the back of the (hope to own someday) RV. Weekend touring and tent camping. Heck, drive it to Sturgis and be the only one not sore from the trip. Still, it’s closer to a bike than those trikes that make zero sense.
BTW, a quick google for “Honda Silverwing” came up with this hit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Silver_Wing_(scooter) Not sure why you didn’t mention it, but hey, it is still a good piece.
What do these get registered as?
By Illinois law this thing would be a motorcycle requiring all the licensing and registration there of best as I can tell. The engine size knocks it out of the scooter classes.
It’s the same as any motorcycle.
Looks like great fun. Couple days ago I lamented to a friend I’d never had a full fairing that would have been nice many times.
I once turned onto a road that was soon very deep in jumbo grasshoppers
I turned around as soon as possible but all the roads were replete with the flying types.
Back to town finally I spent half an hour pressure washing all that gore out of the engine fins not to mention the rest of the bike and myself
The wife faired better but it was a bum ride. West Texas bike riding has some strange twists.
Mud/ice storms are another phenomenon we have to endure
I still prefer a motorcycle – but I get why people like these. That Scrambler I wrote about the other day? I’m in love with it, but just like a very hot but very high-maintenance girl, it has its downsides – including absolutely no room to put anything. Even a wallet. So, you need to wear a many-pocketed jacket or a backpack if you need to carry anything – and I mean small items, like a laptop or a few little things you might want to pick up at the store before heading home.
This one can carry almost as much as a small car (no really) and is much more fun than most small cars!
You’d think they would have an option for a big tank-like storage compartment where a bike’s gas tank normally is, for those customers not up for all the scooter shaming.
I’m sure BMW sells hard (or soft) accessory bags for the Scrambler… but that screws up the bike’s lines! 🙂
There are “tunnel” bags that fit in the step through area. There are also soft cases and top case options. But for me the underseat storage area is all I’ve needed.
There is almost enough space under the seats to crawl in there and take a nap… 🙂
My bike experiences…room for a fifth of Turkey rubber snubbered to the seat behind me….room for a joint in my helmet. For the most part it fulfilled my needs and condoms fit pretty much anywhere.
I have a Suzuki Burgman 400 ABS, and I’ve fit four bags of groceries in it. It has good wind protection. It’ll top out about 95, and it’ll cruise highway speeds all day long. If I ride it hard, its mpg is in the low 50s; if I don’t ride it hard, I can get mpg in the 60s.
Yup! My ’83 Honda GL650 serves me similarly – with the upside that it’s a real motorcycle!
That’s a NICE bike; I’d like to get one, but I NEVER see them for sale around here… 🙁
The 650s are hard to find – one year only in the United States – but the GL500s are pretty common. Same basic bike and the 500 has the same virtues as the 650, just a bit less engine. My friend Graves – GTC – who is a regular here turned me on to these bikes; he has owned several and is an expert – so if you need any advice, ask him!
It’s funny, but years ago, there was a nice, bright yellow GL500 available some years ago. I wish I’d bought the thing…
You may have sold me on this. Is there way to give you credit at the BMW dealership?
It’d be BMW, corporate! 🙂
Do you have a particular person/dept. I should contact?
I’ll have a look at the press book!
Great, please let me know.
Hi Eric. I own one of these, a ’15 C650GT, but in almost all respects it is the same bike. Having owned dozens of motorcycles over the years, I have to say this is one of the best for general commuting and just to take out for a ride. People I talk to, mostly bikers, do not understand what this bike is or is capable of. When I tell them it’s a scooter they do not believe me, but I don’t really care. At 62, I was getting tired of swinging my leg over a tall motorcycle, and being forced into a particular riding position. With the BMW, you can stretch your legs out front (my preference), or have them under you in a more traditional position. BTW, I think the left box locks if you lock the forks. The under seat storage is massive. Easily will take a full case of your favorite beverage.