There’s not much left for the Woke to target, but “speeders” will do. There is a lack of equity on the road, you see. Some drivers going faster than others.
And “getting away with it.”
Mayor Pete Buttigieg – now a federal “secretary,” the innocuous-sounding term given to people who function as national-level dictators within the area of their fief – wants to make sure they don’t by making sure they pay for it. All of them. All of the time. Or as close to that as possible. He wants to do that by erecting a national grid of automated speed enforcement cameras that would “self-enforce” speed limits and thus achieve the equity of velocity he seeks.
No one should be able to get from A to B faster than anyone else. That’s racist, probably. Everything is racist to the Woke. It serves as th excuse for what they don’t like – and the means for shutting up those the Woke don’t like.
Hey, what about those black numbers on a white background . . . ?
Of course, it’s mainly another money grab – as is almost always the case when it comes to everything the government does. If there isn’t any money it, there’s little appeal to it. At the end of the day, the government wants to get paid. And so do the remora-like entities that depend on government for much of their business. This includes the insurance business, which has made a lot of money off of “speeders.” Any system that makes it feasible to catch more “speeders” means more money for them, too.
But there’s more to this than just money.
If Mayor-now-Secretary Pete succeeds in establishing velocity equity he will have succeeded in greatly furthering what those who are aware of Mayor-Sectretary Pete’s long-term plan has always been. Which is to make transportation, itself, more “equitable” – by making it the same for everyone.
You cannot “speed” when you ride the government’s bus.
Or, for that matter, get going at your own speed. You go when – and where – government planers like Mayor-Secretary Pete decide. If you go back and read his public utterances on the subject you will find out for yourself.
Of course, he does not out it exactly that way.
Here is how he does put it:
“Our goal is zero deaths, a country where one day nobody has to say goodbye to a loved one because of a traffic crash.” And how would this “zero deaths” objective be achieved? By eliminating anything that might cause a crash. Not just “speeding” but also driving, since the act entails at least the possibility of crashing (and dying) irrespective of speed.
A parked car hits no one.
To make sure more cars are parked, Mayor-Secretary Pete wants fewer roads. The Department of Transportation will provide “guidance” – that word keeps cropping up – toward that end. States, cities and counties will be encouraged to “. . . embrace safer road design such as dedicated bike and bus lanes . . .” so as to ” . . . make them safer for bicyclists and pedestrians.”
Ideally, to make them nonexistent – for privately owned cars.
“We cannot tolerate the continuing crisis of roadway deaths in America,” Pete says. Italics added. Who is “we,” chief? And where is this “crisis” of which you speak?
Most of is “tolerated” it quite well, thank you very much – because it’s not a “crisis” except insofar as it provides another shrill – and purposely exaggerated – talking point for hysterics who prey on the fears of idiots. Do people occasionally die in car crashes? Of course. They also occasionally die from any of an almost limitless possible life-enders, such as falling down the stairs or having an unexpected heart attack.
Speaking of which.
About 659,000 people die of heart disease in the United States each year. How many people die in motor vehicle crashes annually? About 38,000. Several of them in self-driving Teslas, by the way.
Mayor-Sectretary Pete has an interesting way of gauging “crisis.”
In fact, it’s an opportunity. Consider the way the bulk of the country’s population was cowed into giving up their freedom to move over the “threat” they were told had manifested in the form a a virus that didn’t kill 99.8 something of the not-elderly/not-already very sick population. Cars kill a fraction of that fraction and almost all of that is not the result of “speeding” but rather of not paying attention.
Driver inattentiveness and its amigo-along-for-the-ride, driver incompetence, are the chief problems, if the problem you’re trying to reduce is avoidable traffic accidents and fatalities. But Mayor-Secretary Pete has something more comprehensive in mind – and velocity equity will help him achieve it by making it not worth it for people to bother with owning a car they’re constantly punished for driving if they drive it any way that people such as Mayor-Secretary Pete frown upon.
Assuming there are even roads left to drive them on.
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[…] Guest Post by Eric Peters […]
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the table and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” Frank Zappa.
It seems that the insurance mafia is trying to capture every data point about us, at the behest of the Government. How many miles we drive, how fast, how we brake, do we swear a lot, or listen to unacceptably loud music, do we talk on the phone, or eat an occasional cheeseburger while cruising down the parkway.
They only want those who believe everything some rube named Flo tells them on tee tee as customers. Because they care. Because they know best. Despite the fact that many os us who have seen behind the curtain, are the least likely to cause or be involved a crash.
The biggest test will come when they put speed compliance cameras on every corner. If that happens and we the few don’t destroy every last camera, with extreme cunning and prejudice, they will have us by the short hairs.
“We will save your life by killing you” said every political terrorist everywhere.
The religious left is far more murderous than the religious right. They are basically retarded/mentally ill parasites who want you dead for refusing to live for THEM.
This is well-said, about Leftists being “retarded/mentally ill parasites who want you dead for refusing to live for them.” The past two years have made this very clear. You might be sick. You might be spreading sickness. Granny might die! Everyone must be locked down, force-unemployed without compensation. All for the “greater good.” Theirs. Whatever it costs you.
Getting rid of roads is right out of agendas 21 and 2030.
Oh but it’s a “conspiracy theory” as just about everyone who gets into office implements aspects of these and other things coming out the UN and NGOs.
Is no one going to comment that if we can’t have roads then most people’s ultimate justification for the existence of government itself (“muh roads”) will no longer exist?
What happens then?
The first time I heard of vision zero was Probably 10 years ago. driving my workvan listening to c89.5 a highschool radio station in seattle that would occasionally play good music. Anyways they advertised HIV vaccine trials, vision zero, gates organizations, lgbtq clubs, and whatever pozzed nonsense. Vision zero originated in Seattle
Seattle is a fairly dangerous city that has increasing danger. Thousands of criminals live in tents, steal things and shit on train tracks. Parks are litered with garbage and needles. Seattle roads are in pretty rough shape. Hills are very steep, intersections and traffic controls are poorly designed. Pedestrians are difficult to predict, and there are suicide ninjas who wear all black on rainy nights and stand in the road or jump infront of vans.
Vision zero has been making seattle safer by:
making more bike lanes out of car lanes
Not prosecuting thieves or vandals
Allowing bicyles to speed and blow red lights.
Car is always at fault if bike or pedestrian is involved
Lowering speed limits for cars
Allowing rvs to park anywhere
Sanctuary city for uninsured illegals
Allowing terrorists to control parts of the city for months at a time.
Nightly freeway closures for dance parties untill an Eritrean man ran them over by mistake.
Our $60 billion lite rail project is helping poor commuters by:
Putting $3000 per month apartments by the transit stops.
Increasing the price of car registration.
Allowing bums to piss in the elevators
Neglecting escalator maintainence.
Sounds like “speed demon” Peters is worried about Pete Buttplug lowering the speed limit, and setting up cameras everywhere, then getting caught driving at his usual high speed, often in reverse to demonstrate his driving skills.
He is obviously worried about driving at his usual 120mph, after cocktails, over hill and dale, thinks he’s driving on a monorail, passing old fogies who drive like snails, with three cop cars on his tail, and then he’s derailed, thrown in jail, caged like a clyesdale, where he can’t read his email, then in court, where he tells the judge tall tales, but does not prevail, gets a fine that is large scale, unable to sell his prized Yugo to raise bail, so goes to the county jail, which hits him like a a 10 on the Richter Scale, has to sell his prized Chevy Vega collection at an auction sale, to pay the bills at home, and this might sound like a fairy tale, but this is what happens to speed demons ! Or so I’ve heard.
Look, Richard: Practically everyone “speeds” as a matter of course every single time they drive. This is inarguable. And it is the very definition of “speeding” as a legal matter. You drove faster than the number on a sign says you may. You are a “speeder.” So now the question becomes: Who gets to decide what that number shall be? Answer – government bureaucrats in cahoots with the insurance mafia, who have an obvious vested interest in extracting as much money as possible using “speeding” as the pretext. The best way to make as much money as possible is to set speed limits such that practically everyone is “guilty” of “speeding” almost every time they drive.
Your mentality gave us 20 years of people being ticketed (and mulcted, serially) for driving faster than 55 on the highway… on the same highways where it had been not-speeding to do 70, previously. Now we’re allowed to drive 70 again. Can you explain why 70 is any less arbitrary than 55? Can you substantiate – prove – that I am putting others at risk by my driving faster than the speed limit?
I have 30-plus years of accident-free driving to substantiate my driving abilities. I regard that as pretty goddamn persuasive evidence that I do not drive too fast – even though I do “speed.”
You are so over the top sensitive on this subject that you can’t laugh about it, and that just invites me to give you a hard time again in the future !
I have 50 years of driving, skidded off an icy road one time in 1977. No other accidents. So what?
Also out ran the police two times to avoid speeding tickets. Once a New York State Trooper police car.
I knew the back country roads, and he didn’t. Not something I ever mentioned until today, almost 50 years later. But you seem to brag about speeding on a website where you can easily influence other people with lower driving skills, to drive fast, or to drive faster. That is my only complaint.
And don’t blame my “mentality” for “55”. Blame that doofus Jimmy Carter.
I’ve had more than my share of speeding tickets when I was younger. While I don’t consider driving with the general flow of traffic to to be “speeding”, policemen here in Michigan sometimes do.
When I first moved to Michigan from New York, I was surprised at the high average speed — over the speed limit — on highways during rush hours. Few people obey speed limits here, unless it snows a lot, and then they drive slower than an old man with a walker.
Speeding, to me, is driving significantly faster than other traffic on the road, Doing that is not safe, and has little to do with what the speed limit signs say.
You’re right – I have no sense of humor when it comes to this “speeding” crap. Because it’s not just crap. It’s serial theft and a source of serial abuse of the driving public.
You write: “Speeding, to me, is driving significantly faster than other traffic on the road…” and thereby make my point. What “speeding” is or isn’t to you is irrelevant as regards what the law says it is. And the law says “speeding” is driving faster than whatever the number on the sign says.
What’s not “safe” is driving faster than your capabilities, given conditions. And it is very easy to define that – by loss of control. One can lose control at any speed – the legality of the speed being utterly irrelevant to the fact of loss of control (if it occurs).
What I resent – bigly – is being hassled by some geek with a badge and a gun merely for driving faster than the number on the sign. Just as I resent being told I must wear a Face Diaper because I might get sick/transmit sickness.
If we ever want to live in a free society again, it will require general acceptance of the principle that people have an absolute right to be let alone unless they have caused harm to someone else or their property. That crime requires the presentation of a victim. That without a victim, there can be no such thing as a “crime.”
I think we have been in violent agreement all along.
When i was young there was a section of road on the way to work that was used for drag racing at night. Too much trouble for cops to go there at night. So they went there in a morning, put out brand new 25mph speed limit signs, and gave a huge number of people driving to work, at the usual 45mph, speeding tickets. There were five cars pulled over with me — all on our way to work in the morning driving the same speed we always drove. Of course the drag racing continued at night.
I like that declaration. That people have an absolute right to be let alone unless they have caused someone harm. It’s so logical!
Indeed, RS –
Some will object that there will be people who abuse such a regime; of course – it’s a given. There will always be people who act recklessly/criminally. The thing is, they will do so regardless of “the law.” But when every might becomes the legal justification for treating people as if they had caused harm, then we’re all harmed – all the time. I’d rather the harms be limited chiefly to those who cause them.
“You’re right – I have no sense of humor when it comes to this “speeding” crap”
I’m getting my speed demon rap, from my prior comment, recorded next week. Preliminary title is “The Eric drives faster than a speeding bullet Rap”.
Please keep us informed of when you are on the roads in Virginia so we can will know the vehicle that flies by at high speed is you, and not a UFO. … ha ha
The lame jokes will continue until I hear laughter.
There’ll be no laughter as regards the abuse of any person who’s caused no harm to another person. Because I don’t consider it funny – at all.
Keep in mind: “Speeding” provides a pretext for an armed agent of the state to threaten you with murderous violence. It is the pretext for extortion-theft, amounting to large sums of other people’s hard-earned money. The whole thing is as unfunny as cancer.
Try to image what it would be like to live in a country where only criminals had to worry about cops….
I have to assume you paid a lot of speeding tickets to be so upset, Mr. Speed Demon !
I out ran police speed traps two times, once at over 100mph to avoid speeding tickets.
Also talked myself out of quite a few tickets. It’s possible if you are polite, funny, and deny everything. Worked several times for the wife too. Cops do serve some purpose, but never when they are driving behind you.
In Detroit there are some maniac drivers on the freeways. They are almost always young black men. Weaving in and out of freeway traffic at scary speeds. One guy did that to me when I first came to Detroit in 1977.
I gave him a deserved one finger salute as he raced by me. Suddenly he slowed down a lot, in front of me, and a handgun appeared outside his open driver’s window.
I was being challenged to pass him, and get shot. We both ended up pulling over on the freeway, with him about one-half block ahead of me. I told my then girlfriend (now my wife) we were trapped on the freeway with a 20 foot cement wall next to the car. I said if that guy got out of his car with his pistol, and walked back toward us — get down, because i will be running him over at high speed. After a 10 minute showdown, he gave up waiting for me in his car and drove away. That’s a true story.
I mention that because yesterday, on another highway, two SUVs were racing through traffic weaving in and out, just like that guy in 1977. I don’t give anyone the one finger salute on Detroit roads any more, but they sure deserved it.
Only fudge packers drive 55.
Hey look! The one and only time Sean Penn and I have ever agreed on anything!
I agree, but with a caveat.
The most important reason why American men act that way, as I see it, is because most American women reward that kind of behavior. Refusal to play along generally results in a lot of shrieking, loss of friendship, and a prolonged state of celibacy.
I have never had the misfortune of playing the dating game, so I don’t know what goes on in today’s world. Personally, I don’t see how any woman would want a man who doesn’t have the ability to protect her. A feminine man has never been attractive to me. My marriage is made up of very traditional gender roles. Feminists everywhere are aghast, but that is what works for us. I make dinner. He checks out nighttime noises. I do the dishes. He changes the oil in my truck. I fold the clothes and put them away and he erects greenhouses. We both work, but he is the bread winner. I have cut the grass and ran the backhoe, and he has wiped down the countertops, but we both know our place and it works for us.
I think the switching of roles leads to confusion in both sexes. When we ostracize men and tell them they are not needed the government becomes the overseer and father of the family. The breakdown of the nuclear family has caused more destruction onto society than any other change that government has implemented ever could.
“The breakdown of the nuclear family has caused more destruction onto society than any other change that government has implemented ever could.”
So important that has to be repeated. Aided by government welfare that rewards single parenthood.
My wife likes to shovel snow from the driveway. Says it is good exercise. I fear a heart attack from doing that. I prefer to cook. Because I fear a mediocre meal if she cooks. I do my own wash — it’s easy and nothing I own needs ironing. My wife retired at age 51. She seemed so happy that I retired four years later at age 51 too. It is not considered masculine when a man does not have a career (other than being a retired lazy bum at such a young age). But no one thinks that about a wife with no career. When you are retired, every day is like a Saturday — that started 18 years ago.
You and your hubby share the work at home in a different way. Does it really matter who does what? What difference would it make if you changed the oil, and he did the dishes?
Most dishwashers in restaurants are men
Be nice to your wife…buy her a backhoe or at least a snow blower.
Five years off my life for a front end loader…. my tractor with rear-mounted plow met its match in this last snow.
I am glad I talked hubby out of getting rid of the tractor. He could have gotten a pretty penny for it, but some things are worth holding onto no matter if they increase in value or not. The loader has gotten quite a workout this year. I am glad we kept it.
The wife really likes to shovel snow on our 100 foot driveway. Good exercise. She is 72. I get tired just thinking about snow shoveling. I’d pay for a snow plowing service if she wanted one. Every other house on the block does that.
RG, Publius is correct.
It gets back to being obsolete. Men act that way because they want to get laid and the modern western women do not want men who will tell them ‘no’ or not bend to them unless that man has perfect what the PUAs call ‘frame’.
It’s either a man who is 100% dominating alpha male and is willing to spend the time and effort with these stupid social games along those lines or it’s a man that gives them everything. The more normal man who is generally nice to women but stands his ground when needed… meh. He’s not ‘alpha’ enough and when he says ‘no’ it’s off to find another guy who will say ‘yes’.
Nobody wants to hear the word “no.” What is it they are supposed to be saying “yes” to?
No alpha male is going to spend time playing games and the guy with no backbone will find himself strung along and then dumped. It isn’t only men that this happens to.
An assertive man who has his shit together will always find a willing woman. The problem is most of them don’t. They suffer from phobias of commitment, still rely off mom and dad, and are too busy gallivanting through town trying to find their youth.
I have been watching my nephew go through this as a young man in his 20s. From my conclusion both sexes are to blame. Neither sex has any idea where they want to be one year, five years, or twenty years from now. There are no set goals even if they plan to trek through this world alone.
The success of every relationship is based on two people wanting the same things. I don’t see that in many relationships. I think it has less to do with looks, money, or power, but more of two people not knowing what they want out of life.
Yeah, men really need to get their shit together so they can marry that college educated, debt-ridden thirtysomething that comes along.
True. Not too many men can get a factory job anymore, even working 50-60 hour weeks and afford a mortgage (and wife, and kids, and fancy SUV for wife) without going to university for 80k in debt.
And then you try to find women today who are all anxiety prone, fat, gender neutral, vaxxed, liberal, FAT, has kids, fat, depressed and fat as hell.
I’m losing my desire to work anymore. What is the point?
Many skilled trades pay very well. An electrician or plumber or welder who knows his trade is worth his weight in gold and will never have to worry about money. Liberal arts majors, not so much.
I gotta find someone who will teach me. I don’t prefer schools right now, seeing as how if you aren’t vaxxed, you have to wear a mask. Or is this a bullet I have to bite?
Eric is right. Go into a trade. Very little school – maybe vocational or trade, but you really don’t even need that. Learn from those that are already experienced. So, few people are interested in it that it is quite easy to make a solid six figure income, especially if you are good at it.
So true, RG! Plenty of plumbers out there making $100K+ and without any student debt. And apprenticeships are the way to go- most of the trade schools, -or even worse, vo-tech college programs are rip-offs that teach little of practical value; put one in debt; and start their grads off as minimum-wage ‘helpers’ anyway, which essentially have to start from the same place as someone who just came in off the street.
One can also do very well just as a handyman doing small jobs if they have a little knowledge of some of the trades…which is very easy to acquier- especially these days with the interwebz. It’s not rocket science.
I used to do that back in the late 80’s/early 90’s- Doing little jobs- and saving people lots of money…and being conscientious and doing nice work, I never even had to advertise, as I’d get so many referrals.
And the best thing: It kept me out of ‘the system’. I came across a few plumbers and carpenters who wanted to hire me…. I actually gave some consideration to the plumber’s offer, as he wanted to apprentice me and use me to expand his business (Plumbing is easy)- In retrospect, I almost wish I would have done it for a few years- financially it would have been a good move- but staying free won out, and ultimately I did what I knew what was the right thing for me.
There is not enough stability or predictability in the system for a 20 year old to do long term planning. I would question the sanity of anyone under ~35 who tried to do that.
It’s hard to find a niche, then it’s hard to keep it let alone make it your own. We don’t let 20somethings do anything, where in a previous age teenagers were well on their way.
I think the problem is unrealistic expectations (on both sides), lack of shared values, and almost everyone comes from broken homes (on both sides)—no functional model to look at/emulate. It’s so common no one knows what a “broken home” is anymore, it’s just “home.”
I don’t think there is anything wrong with people planning long term. It may not come to fruition, but a goal never hurt anybody. I have a teenager who wants to be a vet and own her own animal hospital. It will likely be 15-20 years before she is able to get that off the ground, but what is wrong with allowing her the ability to dream and to work toward it. Will she run into hiccups? Sure, we all have, but many things in life are workable if one is willing.
I agree with you too many children come from broken homes, but not all homes are broken. Around 36% of marriages end in divorce and about 50% of children have the misfortune of seeing their parents’ divorce, which then leaves another 50% who don’t. There are many marriages that do work and even those that don’t doesn’t mean that the children of divorce cannot grow up to outstanding and productive adults who have solid strong marriages. It does not have to be a continuous cycle.
Ya know what the problem is, RG? When one has to put such massive preparations into something, they are so invested that when the realities of which they were unaware hits them, they are faced with the prospect of either throwing away 15-30 years of their life, or knuckling under.
One usually doesn’t understand the politics and economy of a given industry until they are in it and thus heavily invested- like with the vet thing, for instance: You go into because you love animals and want to help them….then you work at it, asnd realize that the state makes you require various vaccines; you have to push drugs and services in order to make enough to pay your overhead, etc.
I’ve seen liberty-minded people do this- in various fields. Like my black friend (Ph.D, Ed.D. MS…& something else), who had invested decades in a field that only had relevance in academia- and when the reality hit her in her 40’s that she could no longer in good conscience work in that field of politically-correct leftyism, she literally had to scrap everything…and went from her 6-figure salary to <$30K a year, and having nothing to show for her past life, other than grief and the misery of many years spent working in something that she ultimately hated every day of her life.
Most people will never do what she did though…they will just knuckle under and be miserable until they retire or die.
Being invested in the system for a promise of a future which is rarely what one thinks it will be, is an empty dream that robs people of the best years of their lives.
I had to start over several times in my twenties. I have maybe one more restart in me, maybe, before I can’t do it anymore. And if I did start over the pay cut would most likely be massive, and I would have wasted even more time.
That’s how they get these kids, Pub. They coax them to pick a ‘career’ when they are very young and don’t know how the world works, much less the realities of particular industries/professions.
The poor kid spends their life from adolescence to well into their 20’s preparing for that career, and acquiring debt along the way, without ever getting any real-world experience [Not talking about internships and such- but rather that they spend their life among their peers and in the ‘sheltered’ environs of schools and businesses], and then they go to work in that field which they’d been preparing for for so long…and even then, it usually takes a few years before the reality hits them.
Then they have student debt, a mortgage, car payment, a fambly to support…yada yada…what do they do?
Most of ’em go through the rest of their life in denial and being miserable, and saving for the next step- retirement, when they plan to ‘really live’ if they live that long, and if health permits, and if the finances pan out….
And what’s really sad, is that so many are deprived of the diversity of wearing many hats (and not having to sacrifice the rest of their life and time to do so).
I feel so ‘privileged to have experienced many different ‘careers’/occupations over the years (Without having to spend years preparing for each nor acquiring debt)- Everything from clam digger to commodities trader….and it has kept life interesting (I get bored easily- especially after I’ve mastered something) and fresh- and has allowed great autonomy, which few others experience these days.
My work has always been interesting and enjoyable. I feel sorry for those who get locked into one thing, and who can’t easily switch. No mid-life crisis here- just a lot of gratefulness.
Could I have made more money following a professional career path? Yep. But then I would have had a lot of debt; would have missed out on a good deal of the enjoyable hours of my life and the freedoms I enjoy…and would have paid a lot in taxes….and I would have been kicked out of such an environment or quit before I would have even gotten started, ’cause I don’t kiss ass (government or corporate, especially) and don’t look the other way or comply with anti-liberty or immoprality, which exists in virtually every industry.
My mantra: Call your own shots…be your own boss…be a man!
This is very well-said, Nunz!
Kids are “tracked” very early – as you’ve noted – by the system and their parents (in many cases). They kind of auto-pilot toward a career and the McLife it will entail. Part of this is buying into a car payment. I noticed (and avoided) this when I was in my early 20s. The first thing most of my friends did when they graduated was . . . buy a new car. They had already gotten credit cards while in college – they gave them away like candy to kids who had no income. So by 22 or 23 most of my friends already had credit card debt and car debt. It added a lot of pressure to get a “high paying” job, regardless of the job. The Money Pressure. I on the other hand drove my trusty 74 VW well into the ’90s. I got credit cards but never once carried a balance. I skipped health insurance. This allowed me to skip law school and do what I wanted to do – which was be a keyboard monkey and watch – and write about – the circus. My friends thought I was a kook as they had new Saab 900s and BMW 3s. Soon they also had houses they couldn’t afford – and wives they couldn’t get rid of. Most of them are now Diaper-Faced, “vaccinated” McWorkers – and will be until a heart attack or stroke mercifully ends their misery.
Ya know what’s sad too? Society has become such a work culture, that almost all parents are onboard with pushing the idea that one’s ‘career path’ is paramount- for both boys and girls- and they push the mantra that one should ‘wait until older’ to marry.
This has the effect of denying the natural biology with which we were created, so that at the time when our physical and emotional biology is most receptive to forming a strong monogamous bond, we are instead supposed to divert our attention to instead preparing to serve government agencies and corporations while ‘just having fun’ with the opposite gender, which results in learning to ignore and break any bonds, and creates much emotional baggage which both things in conjunction are a recipe for failure when one decides to try and form that serious bond at an older age.
And here we are…with mix and match families, and kids getting shuffled all around a few times per week; single parents, and the institution of marriage meaning very little now.
And this is supposed to be a ‘better’ and more sophisticated life than what our grandparents and great grandparents and the Amish practice(d).
I guess these people consider it a lofty goal to bounce from one romantic partner to another for a few decades and then enjoy retirement in a nursing home…and they are guaranteeing their children the same.
It is not an either or scenario. One can work toward a career and be on the lookout for a relationship at a young age.
I disagree with you that the system pushes children into careers. The system pushed our generation into careers. The system today pushes nothing except how one “feels.” Many kids today have absolutely no idea what they want to do. They are working toward that BA in Lesbian Dance Studies, but after that…shoulders are shrugged.
I knew what I wanted to do at 14, not because of the system, but because of my father, who insinuated that his children would not be wandering around in their 20s trying to “find themselves.”
At the same time my husband and I were engaged at 17 and married at 22. Our first goal? Purchase a home at 23. Why? Quoting Dad again, “You don’t raise a kid in an apartment, because they need a back yard.”
I won’t lie my father pushed my husband (then fiancé) as well. At 19 my father took my husband aside and basically stated “Son, you need a real job, not this minimum wage BS.” My husband skipped college and went into the trades. My son will also skip college and do the same.
Parents have the greatest influence on their children. The system only wins when the parent chooses not to be involved.
My husband and I push our children, because one’s twenties is not for having fun, but getting a jump start on the competition.
Morning, RG –
What you’ve written here: “… one’s twenties is not for having fun, but getting a jump start on the competition” ought to be engraved on a rock somewhere. I followed this dictum myself. Worked my ass off during my 20s. Did not have much fun. But I got a leg up and by my 30s had a decent career going. You’ve relayed some excellent advice to young people. Thank you!
Indeed, Nunz –
It’s all very sad. For all of us. The older I get, the more aware of this I become. I am grateful that at least some of the choices I made were less terrible than they might have been – and that I still have a chance to make better choices going forward. I hope more people give more thought to these important questions…
The problem I found with working hard early in life is that you get labeled ‘privileged’ and ‘lucky’. Then you’re supposed to ‘share’ with the people who had fun.
Same crap over and over again throughout every aspect of life.
Why do so many fewer people spend their young years doing the work today? It’s outright disparaged and punished by the society. You’re a target, a mark. A tax donkey.
This principle keeps playing out from economics to dating in western society today.
Why don’t people work? Because leftists have dehumanized the productive. Nobody wants that for themselves.
I agree, Brent –
But there is a hack for that. I have found that by living well below my means, I am largely free of the problems you describe. They can tax my truck, sure. But it’s 20 years old and worth (according to the book) practically nothing. I chose to move to an area where I could buy a house for literally half what something comparable would have cost me in a high-rent area (and in relatively low tax area). I am able to live a decent life this way on not much money – because there’s not much money for the bastards to take!
“Why don’t people work? Because leftists have dehumanized the productive.”
So, we become one of them? Just as unproductive, just as lazy, just as dependent on the very system we wish to break free from.
Do the successful W2 employees pay more in taxes? Yes. I don’t dispute that. They have very few deductions/credits that they are able to capitalize on due to their income levels. Now, how about that independent contractor, day trader, or business owner? It is completely different ball game. There is a reason that Warren Buffet pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. He doesn’t pay less taxes, he is just taxed at a lower rate.
Who cares what others (who aren’t successful) say about those that are? Let them think what they may.
The successful person knows they got where they are because they worked hard. What others think about them should be irrelevant. Let them take their jealous tantrums somewhere else. These people do not want you to succeed. Get rid of them. Destructive, insecure people always bring you down, never lift you up. They should hold no status in your life.
We? I still trudge along making things go.
The discussion was about people in general. Least I thought it was. Why has society been altered so? I could go into how the schools and all deliberately make people permanent children but there is the huge driving force of hating productive people.
The last two years have been especially harsh. 45% or so of the country has felt completely justified in open expressions of hate and some even to physical violence against productive people. Bodily autonomy has been considered even too much to let the productive retain. Note they haven’t spent even the smallest effort explicitly going after the unproductive, only the productive.
Taxation is a game like many others, sure. I wasn’t only referring to taxation. But the society’s attitude was once to cherish the productive but now out of every corner it’s all ‘luck’ and ‘privilege’. Not hard work. Not sacrificing the present for the future, it’s luck and privilege. Words chosen deliberately by the left to make their hate more palatable. To give the followers moral agency to plunder the productive.
So why do so many of the young not want to be productive today? 12 years of being told these things.
I keep saying nothing gets better unless the schools are taken back.
As far as becoming one of them, If I started living off the system right now I’d probably have to live to a 100 get back what I’ve put in unless I can get much more than I think or achieve elected office. If I start counting my full economic impact on the world to the benefit of society there’s no way I can live long enough to become a net sink.
Hey RG & Eric!
RG, the reality is, the only ‘competition’ is for a slot in the rat race; and the system doesn’t have to push kids, because the parents have been trained to do that now.
Parents spending good money and encouraging their kids to go to institutions where they are taught to reject the values with which they raised; and daughters being prepared to be nukular physicists and corporate flunkies and biologists….but they don’t know how to boil spaghetti- and their ‘career’ becomes paramount, so that their role as a wife and mother becomes secondary- and their marriage becomes more of an economic partnership or competition.
Eric, you ended up doing good though in the long-run. You got out rather early and without too much damage, and at least have ultimately been able to do what you want and be of great service to others- truly providing something of great value!
I grieve though for so many, who could be out there becoming men in their teens, and earning and saving while they have great energy and enthusiasm…but instead they kept in a paradigm which prolongs their adolescence well into their 30’s.
Sorry, Nunz, but I fundamentally disagree that the system pushes any occupation or career training. They (the system) succeed when the individual remains stupid, compliant, and dependent.
A productive person (someone who makes their own pay from biologist to electrician) is none of those things. The productive are the people that hold up (and pay taxes) into the system that protects everyone else.
A generation ago guidance counselors sat down with students asking “What are your interests? Do you have a field of study? What classes would best portray this on your transcript?” Today, we have kids who can’t read past an eighth-grade level or do simple mathematical calculations in their head. What job does the system push one toward with that kind of credentials?
The people that work hard and are successful is in spite of the system, not because of it.
The schools are worried about which bathroom should a child use, not what field of study do they excel in.
I do not deny that the system was created by parents submitting.
As for the way the world is – teenager boys not becoming men and young women not being able to boil water it is because many conservative/libertarian/right leaning thinkers do not wish to participate. They don’t want to put themselves in a relationship, they don’t wish to bring a child into this world, etc. Surprise! This creates even less libertarian/right wing thinkers and weaker children. It does not have to be one own’s child – we all have a niece, nephew, younger cousin, neighborhood kid, that could use our guidance and the ability to look at the world through a different prism. Are we providing that? Or do we peek through our blinds, look at the mess surrounding us, and say “oh yeah, these kids are screwed.” That’s helpful!
Hi Nunz, RG, Eric,
Not sure how it works now but in my high school (graduated 1965) there were three “tracks”, you were either college prep, business, or general. General would be for anyone going into a trade- mechanic, electrician, plumber, etc. my parents pushed me for college along with the school counselor who said I should go into engineering because I was good at math and stuff. This was also shortly after the Sputnik launch and there was a big push for more engineers. Worked out ok since I ended up with a secure job at the electric company and paid my own way by working the night shift as a custodian. Looking back I kind of miss that job, worked alone at my own pace and not much mental stress, too bad it didn’t pay more.
Side note to the kids that got “general” education – a kid in my glass got a job with the local trash company, and my mom would always use him as an example of what not to do. “Do you want to be like Rudy Brown and spend your life riding on the back of a garbage truck?” Well maybe, because years later Rudy Brown ended up owning the trash company 😆.
Great debate everyone. I’ll add my .02c to the stuff that stuck out to me.
I come from divorce, me at 8yrs old, accept my mom did something most don’t “your dad is a good man, and he must be part of your lives, you must see his side of the story/life” and there were no ‘conditions’, etc…. It made me grow up real fast though. If I wanted something/anything I had to make it happen.
Now my kids come from a great marriage and my wife and I were worried about them having it too easy or not enough challenges which we thought was important. So we picked our poison. They are doing great in their early 20’s, way better than most of their peers. Very well rounded which is what we wanted. Although, they have not grown up as fast as I did, which I struggled with.
I just got accused of being too tough on my kids from a friend. I debated it with him “have you ever seen me push them here, here, here…… No. It’s on purpose, because I want them to live with failure and success. I push them when and where I/we think it matters. To each is own.
Your mother took a very mature approach. It is hard enough on kids when families spilt up, but to have that child torn from a parent or only see them a few times throughout the year severs any relationship that the child and parent could have had and impedes the mental growth of the youngster. Nobody wins in such a scenario.
I married a man who grew up in such a system. Parents, aunts, uncles, etc. constantly marrying and divorcing, remarrying and divorcing again. Hell, even a few on their 4th marriages. He ended up being raised by his grandparents, because his parents were nothing more than the egg and sperm donor. Drugs and alcohol were much more satisfying than rearing a child. How my husband was able to avoid a repeat of such drama and is the outstanding father and husband he is today I will never know, but I am thankful he is.
hmm looks the site burped and ate some comments. So I’ll repost from my comment saving add-on.
Say no to? Could be anything. It could be the most trivial of things. This is ultimately a car forum so to pick a car related one, it’s not valet parking my car on a date. I am supposed to do that for some reason. It’s supposed to show some sort of social or financial something or the other to subject my car to the risk of abuse, damage, and theft in whole or in part. I’m like BA in this regard:
The whole ‘alpha’ thing is a social game now, at least in the context I was using it. It’s deliberately always doing or saying the right things to play that role. A role of a cartoon character if you ask me, but there seems to be a lucrative industry to teach men how to be that cartoon character and how to socially game women. Women have their version for men too. It’s like both parties trying to extract from the other more than they give. huge turn off.
And there lies the problem for man trying to have a real relationship, he’s not playing that game. He’s targeted as a mark and then when he shows backbone that’s the end of that.
Assertive. see there’s another problem. That’s been pathologized for the most part. Even what even may be desirably assertive in the moment can become criminal or career/socially damaging down the road.
No argument about finding a willing woman. Just that he can’t have standards or anything like that. Standards get us back to the saying ‘no’ part.
So, a man cannot have standards if he wants to be in a relationship? Really? Can you honestly look around every married couple or long-term relationship that you know and neither of them have standards, morals, principles, or integrity?
Sorry, but people see what they want to see. We hear what we want to hear. Many times, that means dismissing anything that doesn’t pertain to whatever illusion we are holding onto to.
If a woman is constantly picking the same guys with the same attributes and she is finding disappointment, then I suggest changing one’s objectives…start looking at the complete opposite and see if that doesn’t bear better results.
There are many good men and women out there that that would make great relationship partners. Someone just hasn’t come along to claim them. There is a fair share of bitches and assholes to, and they should be avoided at all costs, but that usually isn’t something that takes weeks, months, or years to determine.
You concentrated on the last part and stripped it of the context. The context was your remark there is always a willing woman. Yes, there’s always a willing woman if standards are dropped. But there isn’t always one there with standards.
Having standards gets us back to the saying ‘no’ part because those willing women largely evaporate.
Without the context I agree with you, but the context here is important. There’s always someone willing, I know that by experience. But let me just say they are like project cars. Project cars where you’re just better off passing.
Like the one someone wanted advice on how to fix in one of the Maverick groups I am in. I’ve never seen front frame rails that rotted out. Plus the torque boxes were just gone. He wanted to fix it. Everyone told him get a better car.
There’s also the supercar exotic analogy too.. But I ain’t in that league. Sometimes the Ferrari bought at the salvage auction league though. But that only leave a man broke with a car he can’t drive.
Well-said, RG –
Some of us have been badly burned by marriages that went kaput. And that fear can keep one from trying, again. It is not an unreasonable choice, necessarily. But it is not the only choice. Life is always about risk. In everything. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The same for relationships. I am not arguing that everyone ought to be in one and that a person isn’t living a full/whole life if they are alone. By no means. But it is important to not presume failure – or that everyone is awful. Flawed, certainly. Damaged, even. It doesn’t necessarily mean unfixable or not worth fixing.
**”The most important reason why American men act that way, as I see it, is because most American women reward that kind of behavior.”**
No real man lets his behavior be determined by the dictates of women, society, or potential rewards. And there are always plenty of women who really want a real man (The ones who think they don’t are never ever going to be happy)- which is why so many silly women these days go for ‘bad boys’, -because they display many of the characteristics of manhood- sans the moral character, that real men possess. (It’;s good that they are around to snag the stupid women who don’t care about character!).
And real men do not fear walking alone. One has to be willing to, else he can never truly be a man.
It’s effeminate and emasculating to be controlled and manipulated by women, which is now the only way a man can keep a woman in our post-feminist society. That’s why more young, right-wing men are incels as they see so many of their older peers getting the short end of the stick in their relationships with women.
And frankly, men that crave female camaraderie are either fags or mentally ill. It’s not normal.
Yeah, Groy. The ‘Sexual Revolution’ which the social engineers foisted upon us was touted as being ‘liberating’. In reality, it (as planned) destroyed manhood and the family; made most women disgustingly unhappy (And they don’t even realize the source of their misery), and has created a virtual matriarchy in which men serve and are inferior to women- and the women assume all of the power- and a quick look at the current world around us shows how that is working out…..
And why would any rational-minded man want to participate in that kind of society?
Wokeism Is A Cruel And Dangerous Cult
Maybe this fudgepacker can accomplish what Volpe couldn’t. I don’t like them speeding cars.
Erecting a national grid of automated speed enforcement cameras that would “self-enforce” speed limits would be enormously expensive and take years to build. If there is any jurisdiction for the federalis to put them up on other than US roadways. Of course by the time it’s installed there will be fewer driving, and since their cars will be fully connected, the system would be redundant. Once again a solution in search of a problem. If we are forced to go to digital currency, collection of fines will be easy. In fact they can just pretend you’re guilty and collect what they want when they want per your social credit score. On the off chance we still have a working economy by then.
Boo, Joe, Boo. 🙁 👎
You sold out. I had a lot more respect for you, when you were willing to say “fuck it” to the world and discuss what you wanted with who you wanted. All of a sudden you need alternative views? What happens if those alternative views are spreading misinformation? Apparently, that is okay because the higher ups need the ad revenue.
You and Spotify allowed a 76 old year old guy that hasn’t been relevant in 30 years to dictate your agenda. Boo, Joe, Boo.
an apology sets loose the hounds of hell on you. Never ever apologize to the lunatics. Showing weakness is like a wounded fish with sharks
QFT, M3! Especially when you’re in the right, as Joe was, don’t apologize to those evil a’holes…
Integrity means never, ever, saying “I’m sorry” for your own opinion.
Sorry for what? Your own existence?
I think not, comrade.
TOTALLY 100%, RG! I thought Joe had more stones than that… 🙁
Morning, RG –
This is disappointing about Rogan. That he gave in to pressure when – of all people – he’s under the least of it. The man is a multimillionaire. He has “FU” money. I will never understand guys like him. He takes no real risk – other than the risk of losing that platform – to stand by his guns.If they fire fire him, he’s still rich – and can easily afford to continue doing his podcast himself. He’d probably earn more listeners along the way, too.
To “apologize” to the likes of an old Leftist such as Neil Young… for the sake of being a Good Boy in the eyes of an employer…
and now that he has bitten the hand that fed him,making spotify look stupid for “standing up for him…” he has just increased his chances of losing his platform.
Rogan’s role here vis a vis Spotify, the establishment, and his giant pay pellet is akin to that scene in Pulp Fiction where Marcellus says to Butch something like “fuck your pride, you go down in the fifth (round).” Ultimately, the message is really being sent to lesser podcasters. Censorship is coming. Just like they started the YouTube censorship drive with Alex Jones.
I don’t see much of Joe apologizing here. Mostly expressing regret that some old washed up former revolutionary rockers lost their cookies over it, and Spotify suffered consequences. “I’m really sorry what I said pissed you off. Look at the bright side, it’s better than being pissed on.”
I read your post in Eric Cartman’s voice.
I agree Rogan probably made a mistake here.
But I think it’s worth noting that he didn’t apologize for anything he actually said, and he didn’t apologize for having any of his guests. It was kind of a “sorry-not-sorry” or “sorry you feel that way” sort of statement.
I’m kind of pissed that he agreed to put a misinformation disclaimer on the covid related content. Although, if he has Fauci on and the disclaimer is still displayed, I could probably forgive that.
I’m also pissed that I decided to subscribe to Spotify *because* they stood by Rogan and told Neil Young to take a hike, and now I have to reconsider. Did Spotify pressure Rogan to do this, or not?
Meanwhile the Left is not placated…but they were never going to be, anyway.
Stupid moves all around. Here’s your signs.
I suspect Rogan is going to learn the Greaseman Lesson. He also made the mistake of apologizing to people whose only goal was his total destruction – and by apologizing, he assured it. I despise Howard Stern but respect the despicable prick for never apologizing – for anything. He tells those who don’t like what he says to change the channel. Indeed.
You can never make friends or peace with the Left.
How much longer do we stand back and let this happen? I am not promoting violence, but a complete cutoff from the left and everything they hold. I cannot believe some libertarian, conservative, Republican cannot create a web service company or a newspaper or a social media outlet. Why do we allow the Twitter, Facebooks, liberal news outlets have the last say? Why do we continue to support these establishments? F’ YT, F’ Fauxbook and their Metaverse, F’ Twitter and their robobots. Personally, I am sick of it. If these businesses do not want “alterative” viewpoints (aka anything not liberal) then by God let’s be done with them.
>Why do [we] continue to support these establishments?
Speak for yourself, RG.
as Tonto is reputed to have said to the Lone Ranger….
Glad to see two of us are on the same page, turtle. 🙂
> two of us
Our name is “Legion,” for we are many. 🙂
A number of years ago, I heard an advertising campaign for some new bank, which was based on talking points that some ridiculous number (90%?) of people never change their bank. People bitch and complain about bank fees and that they pay no interest, but they can’t be bothered to shop around and maybe find something more to their liking – that takes time and it’s hard. The same principles hold true for information gathering – too much time to research and figure it out. Ditto elections – they hate Congress but keep re-electing the same people over and over.
It’s just too hard to use alternatives to YT and Twitter (what normal person over the age of 14 Tweets?) and Google. And so a cutoff will never happen. Even among so-called conservatives, who will continue to use the services the meta-cretins provide. Too much in the familiarity and comfort zones. Change is too hard – much easier to take it up the ass over and over.
That’s a good analogy, BAC, but Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook going after conservatives is very much like the bank refusing to give you back your money. Fees are inconvenient and a nuisance, but one can lie to themselves and say, “I am paying for a service” or something like that. What the news/social media are doing are clearly stating to us is “you have no voice so shut up.” It is basically voluntary hostage taking.
THere’s another issue – as regards alternative social media: Fatigue. I am done with making any effort to build a “presence” on, say, Gettr (or whatever) after wasting time doing the same last year with Parler – only to have it all flushed. Until conservatives (and libertarians) understand there is no playing footsie with the Left – no playing with the Left, period – the Left will continue winning. The only way to win is to be like the Left, toward the Left. Be unforgiving and relentless; use every dirty trick there is. Read Alinsky – and use his tactics and principles against the Left. Refuse to accept anything the bastards say at face value and instead treat it all as lies and themselves as liars – which they are. Give up not an inch of ground to them. Guys like Franco and Peron understood what the Left is – and what is necessary to win against the Left. Harsh? Certainly. So is reality, sometimes.
Agreed. If and when we assume power, we are going to have to be brutal to leftists and RINO traitors. Show them no mercy. Make them choke on their own vomit. I’ve had enough of them.
SO with you on this theme. That’s why I push so hard on not accepting that they tell even a kernel of truth about anything, particularly with respect to the most pressing infringements on our liberty over the past 2 years done exclusively in the name of the “one virus.” Don’t allow them a premise to build on or to define terms.
Leftists even admit that they can’t handle this. Like that leftist gov in CO, Polis. To repeat from a comment in the 1/28/22 Diaper Report thread:
“Polis lamented that there is an “alternate misinformation universe” contributing to people not getting vaccinated.
“There are people that believe you and I are part of some massive conspiracy, Ryan,” he told “Colorado Matters” host Ryan Warner. “Some of them believe there is no COVID; some of them believe the vaccine doesn’t work; some believe that the vaccine has severe side effects. The truth is they’re in their own bubble, and it’s very hard to penetrate.”
So appropriate under the circumstances. Be very hard to penetrate!
Indeed, Anon –
As regards the “one virus” – it’s a difficult one, because people have been catching cold (me included) which makes it hard to say with authority there is no virus, at all. We can however say – with authority – that the threat has been grotesquely exaggerated and that the “cure” has been equally misrepresented as to efficacy as well as actual and potential side-effects. We’ve essentially been told to live in abject terror of drowning and told the only way to avoid that is to wear multiple life jackets at all times. Plus take a drug that will somehow provide buoyancy.
I’ve based everything I’ve written and said about “the virus” and the “pandemic” on that basis.
It’s really not difficult. The issue at hand, politically speaking, is the name of the sickness. The name that “locks people down” and makes trillions flow from the treasury. No other name does that. Maybe you got a virus (others adroitly address the non-existence of all of these, it’s just not necessary politically for me at this point), flu, or just “sick.” Without exception, this happens to every human at some point and periodically. To believe in, speak of, and promote “it” or whatever brand name of the moment that the leftists or their lackeys in “science”, medicine or gov’t are promoting is to promote their leftism and all of its predations. Everything you say is “misinformation” to them, because they too, are acting politically. You curry no favor nor any claim to some sort of objective “factual” high ground by submitting to even a scintilla of the reality they wish to create for you and everyone else. In so many contexts, you are a radical, meaning addressing the “root.” Think about being radical in this one too, without hesitation or apology.
This demonstration is the fault of cbc and cnn and bbc all msm, and all their communist/globalist/satanist friends, shelves empty? blame cbc.
there was zero debate allowed about the agenda 2030/ho….ax, for two years, anyone saying one word outside their narrative is banned, deplatformed, demonized, in some places locked up, very soon exter….minated, the biggest part of the censorship was the msm like cbc,
There is zero science behind anything they have said or done, that is why there can be no discussion about this, their lies would fall apart very quickly, they control mainstream media and the narrative,
Here is a senate hearing trying to unravel all the lies in the ho….ax, they have been lying to everybody 24/7 for two years, the lies are 200 feet deep.
Watch: Sen. Johnson Holds Star-Studded COVID-19 ‘Second Opinion’ Hearing, detailing 1000’s of cases of fake science/lies in the ho…..ax
Gettr is a sick joke. They’ve already deplatformed many dissident right figures (most notably, Nick Fuentes). It’s owner, Jason Miller, recently boasted about how they haven’t banned SPLC accounts. Free speech, my ass.
Look into who funds these “alternative” sites. No different than Twitter et al.
Some folks speculate the entities you mention and Big Tech generally are actually gov’t run operations with front men like Zuckerberg posing as part of a fake storyline. Like Faceberg was invented in a dorm room. Meanwhile, the whole thing including timing shares a uncannily striking resemblance to a DARPA project called Lifelog.
We’re dealing with a system here. Not individual entities making decisions on a one off basis. Products, puppets, and pawns only.
I am so *NOT* down with calling these scam artists by that name.
and of course, the old standby,
(wanna be) Big Brother
would be more like it.
“Technology” is only incidental to what they are, which is evil cockroaches, IMO.
Just call it what it is. Government or government proxy. No doubt it’s big, though.
Isn’t it funny how LifeLog ended the day Fakebook was established?
Right wing information companies don’t have the CIA sugar daddy propping them up
Amazon as well.
The problem with the so called alternative ‘conservative’ platforms, and yes they are out there more or less is that they are boring as can be. They don’t thrive because freedom minded people like to have their ideas tested and honed. It’s the leftist collectivists and authoritarians that want a safe space where they aren’t challenged.
Every time anyone studies interaction the lefties are always staying in their bubble and the more libertarian people get the less they are in a bubble. The lefty sites can thrive because lefties stay in the bubble. So-called ‘conservative’ sites get boring and few there want to stay in a bubble.
More purely libertarian sites can work because there’s lots of ideas to be tested against each other.
Then again today’s lefties are so robotic and ill-prepared on every subject it has lost its fun. Most times it’s right to name calling and so on.
Yeah. I wonder when in the hell people on our side will quit apologizing for our views. If the last 5 years has taught me anything is that that the political left in this country should be shown no mercy and yielded no quarter. From Nov 8, 2016 to the present, they have behaved like spoiled children and violent teenagers, siding with brutal stalinist globalists. I used to try and identify with their psychoses. Beginning around 1/20/17, I stopped. They deserve contempt and some street justice that I only wish I could administer. They deserve nothing further. If I was Rogan, I would tell them to pound sand into a rathole. Rogan is a putz
There are no people on our side in the media….
What’s the Greaseman Lesson? I never heard of that one…
I think I know which incident Eric is referencing. The Greaseman was a guy by the name of Doug Tracht, and he was a shock jock (very much like Howard Stern) in the 1980s/1990s. He was pretty popular in around the DC area, although I believe he got his start in NY. I remember listening to him driving into GMU for my morning classes.
As shock jocks usually do, they toe the line. The Greaseman made a reference to James Byrd who was a black man that three white men dragged behind a truck and murdered in 1998 in Jasper, Texas. During one particular day in Feb 1999 the Greaseman was playing music by Lauryn Hill (who was up for a substantial number of Grammys that year for her album the “The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill”). The Greaseman made a pretty bad comment on why he could understand why people dragged them behind trucks referencing Hill’s music. He was fired immediately. He went on a full-fledged apology tour, but never made it back to the limelight although he still works in some regional areas.
I thought it was about him talking about some black women college basketball players, called them “nappy headed hoe’s”
That was Don Imus.
That’s right! My bad.
I grew up with the Grease – as we who loved him called him. I even met him once – because I won a You Look Jus’ Like a Hog T shirt in a contest. His big mistake was apologizing. Howard Stern was smarter. He never did. He’s still on the air. Grease is – last I heard – living quietly in a small town in West Virginia. It’s really sad. They destroyed him – because he let them.
My issue was not with his non apology, but feeling like he is trapped by having to bring on “alternative views” and the now added disclaimers. Alternative views (aka the media narrative) are what has landed us in this mess. Is there a disclaimer on the MSM each night after they continue to perpetrate the lies of our government? Are there disclaimers in the Washington Post and NY Times for every falsehood they push onto the public?
Personally, Rogan needed say “my show, my way” and let the cards drop where they will. That he is willing to go along with it just makes him look weak. He has the audience that he does because he was willing to be honest. He has had on various libs including CNN’s Gupta. What other alternatives are they looking for? Fauci?
He should’ve offered to have Neil Young on as a guest. If Young declined, have an interview session with a cardboard cutout of him and offer well researched SOP cultist answers.
Kind of like Clint Eastwood talking to a chair at the 2012 Republican convention? 😉
Yeah, but this presumes anyone is interested in hearing what Neil Young – who is very old – has to say about anything. Or even knows who the old hack is.
There is a lot more to this story to be explored publicly. Blackstone as 1/2 partner through a majority stake in half of Young’s catalog. Young’s past beefs with Spotify over $ and “sound quality.” Not to mention what does he think is misinfo? What does he believe? It’ll never happen that’s why he should do the cutout routine. People will chalk it up to him bein non-confrontational or too polite but he’s probably owned.
BTW, did you see the Media Bear joke cover of Old Man called Sold Man? Good stuff.
I tried looking for the Sold Man video, but I can’t find it. It looks like YT blocked one of their songs “I Complied” this morning. I did find the Convoy video though.
I saw it in the opening few minutes of this dollarvigilante.com video.
Neil young and that other old person Joni something Apperently suffered from polio as children or maybe it was their friend. therefore in their twisted geezer minds, they were denied vaccines by antivaxxers. everyone who got a polio vaccine had their life saved from polio. If someone today decides not to vaccinate themselves or their children, that means you caused his polio 80 years ago. Yes, in the mind of a vaxxie, all children would be dead from measels, mumps, smallpox, hepatitis, flu, pertussis, tetris, anthrax, shingles, HPV, covid19, and any other diseases that there is a vaccine for, and by not getting a vax you transmit it to the past. In their mind a vaccine is a magic formula with no possible downsides and the only reason to reject it is pure evil, and that evil needs to be cast out with vaccines.
Not everyone who got the polio vaccine escaped injury. I know someone personally who got it who ended up with adult onset post polio or some such thing. Vaccines are crap.
Yep- a LOT of people were seriously ijured/crippled by those polio vaccines- whose effects could be as bad as actual polio.
In some countries, like the Philippines, where they had a lower rate of polio than the US, the polio rate actually INCREASED when the vaccine was made available. (Sound familiar?)
What really stopped polio was the cleaning up of water supplies, and better sanitation and sewers. But of course, the whackos and their LSD trips and revisionist history and all remember it differently……
polio stopped when they stopped spraying ddt
Oooo! That’s one I never thought of, Anon!
I saw some Neil Young Spotify meme recently, which I can’t find. The gist was 20-30 year olds = who’s Neil Young? 30-60 year olds = Neil Young is still alive? 60+ year olds = What’s Spotify?
In other words, why let this cranky old geezer that no one cares about get his way? There’s a lot more than four dead in Ohio from these vaccines.
RG, all Though I agree and am a bit disappointed he didnt stick to his guns (and tell them to F off) he is very non-confrontational I find, and I think in a way thats what makes him such good interviewer.
Having said that – it will be interesting if he DOES have mainstream sources on. We saw from Sanjay gupta rogan doesnt hold back and he asks all the obvious questions they never do on the rest of the legacy media. If that happens – im starting to hope the narrative falls apart even sooner….
The frightening thing about all of this is that is a one-way street. The MSM and liberal sources are not held to the same standards that are forced onto conservative sources. The country, itself, is pretty much split 50/50.
Also, let’s be honest most liberals are not going to on to Rogan’s show. They tend to veer away from opposing viewpoints. Does anyone see him interviewing Rochelle Walensky or Pete Buttigeg? There would never come on.
Here is an example of some of the “misinformation” that the left believes Rogan is spewing (dated November 2021):
Here is what happened last week in America:
Is the false information? Nope. Rogan just made it public two and half months before the Biden Administration notified the masses.
Also, they (MSM) seem to omit the information that Robert Malone holds nine patents for MRNA vaccines, but yeah, he is just a conspiracy theorist promoting misinformation on the vaccines that have been jabbed into 70% of American arms.
It is barely lunch time and I already need a drink. 🙁
Amen, RG –
There is no fair-play with the Left. Conservatives have got to get this through their heads. The Left is not upset that there are contrary facts; the Left is upset that there is anything contrary to the Left. The only way to deal with the Left is to destroy it.
Yeah, Eric – The left can suck it. I’m more than tired of their presumptive bias in everything.
Why is it that conservatives always have to pussyfoot around with the Left? For instance, when talking about vaccine mandates, there’s always this qualifier “we think vaccines are safe and effective and offer the best protection … but it should be a personal choice.” Never do they say “these things may kill you and you should run quickly in the opposite direction if you see someone pointing a Pfizer needle at you.”
We always have to bring data, and it’s never enough data and it never has any credibility even so. But the left can just levy an assertion, fact check themselves, and call it a day. We always have to act nice and civilized, while the left can act like a petulant three year old who dropped his ice cream cone. We are always on the defensive, and always have to apologize and act like a puppy who just shit on the rug. The left, in contrast, is always on the attack and never ever apologizes. Anytime we try to defend ourselves, we are made to be the bully and the aggressor. The left hates, but calls us haters.
What the hell kind of system is this?
You can have all the data in the world and in the leftist political climate, it will never be enough. You can’t win an argument with a liberal. They move the goalposts, twist the words, frame the argument and try and put people they disagree with in a box. Make the argument. Proclaim it loudly. Don’t care how the fucking stupid assed public perceives you. And never, never apolologize. Ever
leftists they are the jackboots of the new world order.
written by Brandon Smith:
if you are a leftist and don’t like what he says go argue with him
They are the ONLY group of people that has consistently supported mass surveillance, mass censorship and deplatforming, mass violence, property destruction and looting as well as violations of individual rights through medical mandates and lockdowns.
Leftists are afraid to question anything within their own circles. To dissent on the smallest detail is to be a heretic, a traitor to the cause. They use the word “diversity” all the time, like a battle cry, but when confronted with true diversity (diversity of thought), they panic and react violently.
Leftists don’t actually care about diversity; they only care that you have blind allegiance to the collective. Stray but a little, and the mob will come for your head. They LOVE plantations, they love slavery; as long as they own the plantations and they control the slaves.
A natural consequence of this Animal Farm mentality is that irony and hypocrisy is lost on the followers of such movements. They project all their shortcomings and crimes on others. The devils they see in conservatives are actually the devils they see in the mirror everyday. That said, the higher up you get in the leftist pyramid, the less it becomes hypocritical and the more it becomes malicious and deliberate.
The gaslighting, the word association propaganda, the selective memory hole they use to erase historical facts that contradict their ideology, the people at the top and their lackeys KNOW exactly what they are doing. They don’t care that their claims are hypocritical or outright fraudulent. They know they are lying, they know they are gaslighting. They’re not interested in being right, they are only interested in WINNING.
There is much more going on here than meets the eye. There is a great deal of power and money behind the rise of the hard left ideology and there are certain people that benefit from it’s expansion.
Leftists like to view themselves as the “underdogs” or revolutionaries fighting against “the man”. However, every resource of global power brokers has been offered in support of the political left. The “Man” is the ally of the leftists; in some ways he is even the creator of the leftist movement.
They aren’t revolutionaries at all; they are the jackboots of the new world order.
It was globalist institutions like the Rockefeller Foundation and the Ford Foundation that funded different elements of the feminist movement and “gender studies” movements from the late 1960’s onward. This included the Rockefeller Foundation’s large donations to ‘The Feminist Press’ and the Ford Foundation’s programs to indoctrinate university professors into injecting social justice talking points into their curriculum.
That’s right folks, social justice activism was paid for and encouraged by the so-called “patriarchy”. This is reality, and it never stopped.
Even today SJW groups are funded by globalists. For example, as the mainstream media often tries to dismiss or ignore,
Black Lives Matter was initially funded by the Ford Foundation and George Soros and his Open Society Foundation. BLM coffers were flooded with over $100 million from uber rich white elites.
Again, this is a FACT that even the dishonest spin doctors at Snopes are not able to deny. Instead, they attempt to use strawman arguments and sophistry to distract from the implication of extreme-left mobs receiving seed money from elitist billionaires.
But let’s follow this path even further: Who gets the support of the mainstream media behemoths? Conservatives or leftists? The answer is obvious.
What about Big Tech platforms? Do they enforce leftist ideological standards? Do they censor conservative viewpoints predominantly or leftist viewpoints predominantly? The reality is that conservatives are deplatformed from Twitter, YouTube and Facebook far more than leftists, this is verifiable fact.
When alternative platforms like Parler are built, are they allowed to simply exist? Of course not! The leftists rampage in an effort to destroy them, but the leftists would have no power without the backing of corporate monopolies like Apple, Google and Amazon. Not only does Big Tech aid the leftists in their Jihad against conservatives, but the government does as well.
They don’t just go after alternative platforms, they try to go after web service providers. And when alternative platforms move to more freedom oriented service providers like Epik, the leftists get government support in order to intimidate them also.
Leftists revel in the argument that “freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences”; they seem to think it is rather clever. I would say, actually, yes, that’s EXACTLY what freedom of speech means. Freedom of speech means that no single group of people is allowed to use fear, intimidation and punishment to compel silence in other groups or individuals that disagree with them. With corporate monopoly and government on their side, it is clear that leftists have appointed themselves the sole arbiters of “consequence”, and this violates the constitution in every conceivable way.
The collusion between government, corporations and extremist ideological movements is the classical definition of fascism.
And, just as the Third Reich enjoyed immense funding, investment and industrial support from globalists and corporations in the decade leading up to WWII,
the political left is enjoying immense support from the global corporate oligarchy today. You cannot be “anti-fascist” while you are colluding with fascists.
quote from byrne……….(when you get your new nwo/ccp/un/.0001% government) “In 10 years, there’ll be prison camps with organs being harvested just as there are in western China,”
The Chinese regime has been killing Falun Gong practitioners for their organs for more than 20 years, according to a panel of experts who attended a virtual conference hosted by the advocacy group Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting (DAFOH) on Nov. 19, and independent investigations.
the track record of communist governments is a horror story:
They have littered the 20th century with 160 million corpses, not foreign people killed in a time of war, but their own people, killed by their own governments in times of peace.
Over 66 million slaughtered under communism in the Soviet Union,
over 69 million murdered in Red China.
Over two Million killed under Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
The millions more killed under Mengistu in Ethiopia, under Samora Machel in Mozambique, and Agestino Neto in Angola and under Fidel Castro in Cuba.”
when communists take over: The third stage instigates a crisis that leads to a civil war, revolution, or foreign invasion. This stage only took 2-6 months.
This is the stage when the leftist idealists, or “useful idiots,” are no longer needed, because they would be disillusioned, become obstacles, push back, turn against the new government. They are going to be eliminated, exiled, or imprisoned. note: this is the interesting part, when the communists takeover, leftist idealists, or “useful idiots,” who helped the communists are exterminated. for one they know too much.
That’s because conservatives “conserve” whatever tripe is put forward by the leftists. It’s in the name. They are never radical and attack the “root.” That’s the system. You are either attacking it at the root or conserving it. Think about that. You will say, no way, in the same way people say the nazis weren’t socialists. You know how those detail oriented Germans are always mixing up definitions when choosing their acronyms.
Eric – it sounds so funny saying that – a world where the left is more rigid in their view and less likely to accept other viewpoints!
I believe this is the beginning of the end for Rogan as he just let them eat his credibility – as a man and a commentator. He looks like a clown now. An entertainer, at best. How seriously will anyone take his admitted to “misinformation” now? In any event, it ca now be easily/summarily dismissed as such. Not just the recent stuff. All of it, going forward. They snipped his balls.
And all because of Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and other Leftist rockers whom almost no one under 60 even knows were once famous.
History will not be kind to the flower generation, or to the pansies they raised.
Rogan did not operate from a solid principled core. He’s supposedly an acquaintance of Alex Jones, but apparently still clings to the mushy middle of the whole crap.
I wouldn’t give Joni Mitchell and Neil Young, of all people, the time to die.
I dont know man. maybe im being more positive but as long as he doesnt change the style, i suspect he will draw the audience. Yes they may hassle him on big tech platforms but there are so many out there these days…. Am whishing him luck… one of his long podcasts just got me through my tax return (with 8 minutes to spare!!)
I would also note that there used to be a fairly standard disclaimer. It was all over the place, and it went something like this:
“The views expressed on this program are not necessarily those of Xyz Broadcasting Corporation.”
That was a good thing. Read it, learn it, live it, love it.
Neil Young, is he still alive?
So in this upside down world of 2021 we have an old hippie who knows nothing about vaccines, wanting to censor a doctor who helped develop the mRNA technology?
That makes no sense.
As an audiophile, who listens to music almost all the time, and owns about 2,000 compact discs, I don’t want to know the politics of the artists in my collection. If I knew, I might want to throw away half of my music collection.
I own seven Neil Young CDs and one CDR compilation of my favorite Neil Young songs. His best work was in the 1970s, with little of interest after that. 1994’s “Sleeps With Angels” album was OK. The 2002 song “Are You Passionate” was good. A lot of years with weak musical output.
Maybe he’s just looking for attention now?
My favorites this year are “Cinnamon Girl”
and “I Am A Child”, with Buffalo Springfield.
I don’t care for, or about. Young’s politics.
Neil young sucks, though I did like Cinnamon Girl. Reminded me of a girl I wanted to bang in the summer of 1981. I like dark skinned Asian ladies.
Life is full of trade offs. If you worry about everything, you will become obese, sloppy & stupid. You take too many risks, you get killed too. Could die of fammine or crime if no one takes the risk of farming, manufacturing, trucking and warehousing. Could be invaded by foreigners. Could die of natural disasters.
People need to think things through before they go along with random stupid emergency measures, and especially from eugenicist philanthropists, politicians and pharmaceutical companies.
There is a reason for risk/reward evaluations, and the reason is there is no reward WITHOUT risk.
Philanthropist = euphemism for one who hates mankind
It is very simple, they want more revenue coming in, this is not about safety, more revenue = more money to steal
something you have to understand about governments everywhere, they are thieves stealing taxpayers money, they have their hands on the money coming in from taxes, fines or money they borrow, so they steal some and never get caught, they are in control, untouchable. money ends up in their offshore accounts and accounts of friends and family.
Dr. Marc Faber says these governments steal between 5% (honest governments) and 100% (crooked governments) of the money collected, borrowed.
people refuse to believe that we are governed by criminals. I refer you to the opinion of one of the most famous FBI agents, Charlie Winstead, the man who gunned down John Dillinger. In his book, “The Bureau”, William C. Sullivan quotes Charlie Winstead as saying, (P.27),
“When I investigate a man and prove he’s a criminal, if he doesn’t already work for the government, they’ll hire him. If he already has a government job, once they hear he’s a crook they’ll promote him. The criminals in Congress only feel comfortable with other criminals.”
We could not ask for a more qualified source, nor for a more apropos phrase than “the criminals in Congress.” The criminals enact into law program after program to reward their fellow-criminals, and to rob and enslave the workers of America. Anyone who gets in their way is disposed of by the “majesty of the law.
Of course! The nature of the thing – government – is criminal. It is not voluntary or consensual; those are such obvious lies and yet so many people actually pretend to believe the opposite. At best, government causes less harm than it prevents, as by the maintenance of criminal/civil courts – and I become more and more skeptical of even that.
Holy Cats…you guys are really getting ornery with your comments!….looks like the billionaire crowd and old WEF Klaus are tuning you up according to the Great Reset plan.
That is…destroy the western middle class and have the remaining proles serve “the Masters “.
My GF’s son is a Learjet jock and I remember taking a ride with him to set up some Latin Singer superstar at Opa-locka “executive airport “….
Funny. while the unwashed have to submit to TSA And Maskhole crap…. All he had to do was punch in the code at an unmanned gate, drive right onto the runway…lots of black skid marks at eye level and load up the “station wagon “ with whatever suited his fancy….so much for Homeland security…
As a humorous aside..I spoke to him about a show on TV called Airplane Repo and he blushed ,Admitting that he and his fellow pilot Bud “ boosted “ an 11 passenger Challenger jet (it didn’t have operable reverse thrust and under inflated tires ).
All the bank wanted was the aircraft ,he could strip out everything else…walked off with 2 “survival units “ worth $2,500 apiece as well as other various sundries.
You guys need to chill out in a “somewhat chaotic “ Libertarian paradise called the Dominican Republic 👍👍👍😎👌
There are lots of HOT babes in the DR!
Yup. I’m tried to make this same point, many times – i.e., point out the fact that private aviation isn’t subject to the Security Kabuki required of the cattle flying commercial. This is interesting given it is surely not beyond the means of a “trrist” to rent – or even buy – practically any aircraft type wanted for a “mission.” Which proves the whole thing was set up to condition the cattle, so as to make them more and more like cattle.
Some time ago, for grins and giggles, I went on the web to do a search for used airliners. A few years ago, you could pick up a used 767 for 20 million or so. Granted, that’s for a well used, high time aircraft, but who cares? They’re only going to use it once, right? All it has to is is make the one flight! But yeah, a well funded terrorist could buy a used airliner…
I would suggest we all go in on the EPAutos private jet, but then I can’t think of anyplace to fly that is going to allow us in without testing, vaccines, masking, mandatory quarantining, and vax passes.
If anything should be banned, it should be motorcades for politicians.
A friend of mine went to Scotland last year & rented a car. He said that the stop sign procedure there, is that you must come to a full and complete stop, then set and release the emergency brake before proceeding.
Speed cams are just the next incremental step towards this kind of robotic driving. Before the speed limiters are installed in all car software.
By the way, there are reasons to speed sometimes. Back in the relatively good old days of 1961, my pregnant mother went into labor in the middle of the night, 45 miles from the hospital over winding two lane highway. The baby started to arrive & my father was speeding as fast as he dared. Cop pulled him over, assessed the situation in a minute and told my father to follow his patrol car as he blasted off with flashing lights and siren.
Today, probably, your dad would have been Hut! Hut! Hutted! by the side of the road while whatever befell your mom and her baby befell them. That is a measure of how much America has changed since 1961.
All because that one time that one couple faked labor to get out of a speeding ticket.
Yes, but I’ll go you one deeper. This “speeding” business is itself a fundamental wrong, in terms of hassling people over it. You were driving faster than a number on a sign says you may – or faster than some other person feels is “safe.” So? I understand that some people do drive too fast for their skill set/conditions, etc. – as evidenced by their subsequent loss of control. But if they have not to lost control, if they have not caused anyone any harm, then isn’t it better to assume they are driving within their skill set and leave them alone rather than punish them and thereby embrace this idea that anyone driving faster than a number on a sign says you may or than some other person feels is “safe” – which we all know is nine-tens-out-ten no threat to anyone – is deserving of punishment for harms they haven’t caused?
I’m not shilling for the mafia [nor the Mafia], but if they want “equity”, maybe they should start going after all of the ‘;hood rats who are always driving around in their thousand-dollar hoopties (with $2K wheels and $2K stereos) without insurance, as is so common. Unregisturd, uninsured, and unvaxxed, and always availing themselves of their Second Amendment rights….WE should be so lucky! But we get persecuted/prosecuted to the hilt for such, though we harm no one…but they get a slap on the wrist when they do the same, but rob, rape, assault and kill.
Yes, we really do need some equity, but ol’ Pete Butt-aggrieve wants to further unbalance the scales. I guess he figures that by putting his head upo his chute it just makes it more receptive to other organs which he craves…….
I ‘m guessing that in my town in the south and west sides, up to 25% of the drivers have no license and have no insurance. You would be astounded at the crime rates there. If they want a car they just hi-jack one for that day’s work.
But to enforce the laws in those parts of town would bring out the grievance organizations to cry “Disparate Impact and Racism”.
There is only so far we can run before we are backed up to the hills.
Back in the 90’s on Long Island, I used to pick up junk cars with my tow truck. A typical scenario: I was picking up a car in an expensive subdivision with insane property taxes and upper middle-class types in suits. A stinking cop was hiding near a three=way stop on the quiet street, and nabbing the poor hapless schlepps who were coming home from work and ever so slightly rolling the stop sign.
On the other side of the main highway from that subdivision is a high-crime slum. The pig could have set-upo in that slum, and caught lots of homies who frequently burglarize the nice subdivision, and have various warrants for various and sundry real violent crimes….but NOoooo! Collecting more revenue from those in a high tax bracket who pose no threat to anyone and who actually pay their fines is much more important to the king whom these Knights Of The Order Of Fried Dough-rings serve…..
And perish the thought that one of those homeowners should ever be caught with a gun or even so much as a can of pepper spray to defend his property (The right to bear arms doesn;t apply in New York for some reason), his life would be utterly ruined….but when homie is caught rummaging through that homeowner’s yard or property with the same, it is ignored.
Nothing so perfectly and vividly illustrates the true intentions of the state and the utter complicity and immorality of those who do the state’s bidding.
“ZERO Deaths,” Mr. Secretary? Quite ambitiouis. Why not outlaw swimming pools, stairs, and ladders while you’re at it?
Even better… whaddya say we outlaw anal sex among men so we have ZERO AIDS deaths, Pete? How about cameras to issue tickets to men holding hands with each other, because they might do anal and transmit AIDS?
I am getting so fucking sick of the hypocrisy of these people…
If they wanted to make the roads safer, they would ban vaccines & masks. Nothing like blood clots hypoxia & psychosis for driving safety. A fighter jet recently parked in the ocean thanks to a vax attack (aircraft carriers are fully vaccinated and the pilot recieved his booster 3 days earlier)
A 135 million dollar jet.
**”“ZERO Deaths,” Mr. Secretary? Quite ambitiouis. Why not outlaw swimming pools, stairs, and ladders while you’re at it? “**
And yet the faggot engages in a perversion which virtually guarantees contacting and spreading many serious and life-threatening diseases, and which greatly shortens the lives of it’s practitioners. If he wants to reduce deaths and disabilities, why doesn’t he start with THAT, and let it begin with himself?!
Ordinarily, I would not criticize Buttigieg’s personal habits as being none of my business. But your point is legitimate. This creature points the finger at us – over things we do that supposedly “threaten” the public weal (or whatever you want to call it) and yet – as is so typical of these Leftists – his actions get an exemption. I would defend the guy’s right to be buggered if he defended my right not to be “masked” – or treated like a criminal because I drove faster than a number on a sign…
Exactly. What Buttaplug is doing is the purest form of hypocrisy. If he considers ‘saving lives’ by restricting the actions of everyone- actions which don’t usually result in death or injury unless being practiced in conjunction with some other activities, such as drinking heavily, or being distracted, or being so stupid as to drive significantly faster than those around you in traffic- then he should even more so seek to curtail the activities of those who practise his fetish, as virtually every one of them will suffer and spread some major detriment to health and life, and at great cost to ‘society’ in this collectivized system.
And why is it always speeders whom they pic on? The asshole doing 40 on a 65MPH road is MORE dangerous than a ‘speeder’….but wee never hear any contempt for them. They should raise the speed limit to 90…then we’d all be a lot safer…except when in the presence of that 40 MPH driver!
I can’t even imagine driving now in these filthy cities where the speed limits have been lowered to 20 or 25 MPH. How does one drive that slow and manage to pay attention and track straight, etc.?!!!! THAT is dangerous- and I’ll bet that if the statistics ever see the liught of day, they will prove it.
I’m not worried. We’ll just take them down like the speed cameras that go dark because of black spray paint.
Beer ain’t drinking.
The theater of the absurd has arrived. A circus freak show in front of your lying eyes.
Vision Zero is right. More like zero vision.
Pete wishes to be Suzy Orman married to Suzy’s wife.
Pete needs sex re-arrangement surgery, which is covered by health insurance. Gotta know that.
He needs womb seed planted into his abdominal cavity so he can grow a womb. He also needs mammary gland seeds to grow two breasts capable of producing breast milk. He’ll need an ovarian implant or something.
A couple of pre-requisites to make the human body contain the physical requirements to be a woman.
Give it the old college try. Good luck with that.
Give Bio-gen a call.
Controlling mph in any way vs the current cop vs me will be my red line. I will do everything and anything I have to do to keep anyone from controlling mph.
OT: Just noticed on the OR state website, they used to have alot of “civics” info about how the gooberment worked, but … they removed it all! LOL — they don’t even want the peasants to know how their stupid overly-complicated garbage procedures work. Everything on their website is all BS and their govt procedures are overly-complicated nonsense. Why do we even have “houses” — the whole thing is horsepucky. I was looking up a federal department’s website the other week… and it’s all BS too, I realized they literally do nothing. People are so stupid. There is a disease that’s spread worldwide — it’s the STUPID disease.
This reminds me of a story from when I was working in Dubai many years go. One of my clients was an Irish lady. She got in deep shit once – why, well she was speeding in the inner shoulder on the highway when other idiots were driving too slow. Why did she do it? Partially stupidity, partially because she saw so many others do it in their fancy cars, she thought it was normal, and she can too as she just bought a very well spec’ed SLK back then.
It turns out and what she didnt realise was most of those who speed like that do it are connected people (ie friends of family of the royals or senior government officials). They are above the law. They get special plates and everyone knows it. And everyone accepts it.. And despite her car also being fairly respectable – it wasn’t at the level of the dear leaders…. and she got caught, car impounded, and her locked up. Only got out because her husband really pleaded with the cop in charge that his wife never listens and she’s a crazy driver and im glad you slowed her down, but please forgive us ill take the car away from her…. so the guy felt sorry and let her go with a warning!! It was quite a funny story at the time I remember!
but whats not so funny is it really feels like that is coming to the west (if it isn’t already here)
Coming, Nasir? It’s already here! It’s just not quite as blatant yet…
Will those new armoured GM suburbans with extra horsepower – the ones for our Dear Leaders also be monitored by this grid ? Or will they be exempt ?! Just wondering….
To ask the question is to ANSWER it…
When one sets an unachievable goal – zero deaths, equity in general – then all actions to reach that goal are justified.
Covid is the current example (lock down, mask, close schools, jabs) that all actions, no matter their success are proffered as legitimate in the achievement of virus eradication.
Under this system, you can be squashed for the attainment of zero deaths, climate change, or whatever. Forced to drive the same vehicle – or no vehicle – until utopia is reached.
stop terrorism – TSA molests you
war on terror – endless wars
pay – legal discrimination
The list can go on. And it will, so long as control can be exercised.
Achtung! Alle Klötze!
Streng verboten fahren auf der Autobahn!
The speed camera nightmare that’s coming to America:
I’ve noticed sections of I-70 (that happen to be in Lauren Boebet’s district) where you pretty much have to slow down or you’ll lose your tires on the potholes. And other sections that don’t ever get plowed while there’s an entire fleet of snow removal equipement on Vail Pass on constant standby.
At some point a live re-enactment of 1861 will be needed or else it will be too late.
I tend to agree, Anon –
But this time – if it becomes time, again – it must be handled differently. The Confederacy was outmaneuvered by Lincoln, a smart bastard. First and foremost by being maneuvered into “firing the first shot.” Sumter was a key port of entry, no doubt – and leaving it under federal control would have been economically hard on the South. But there were alternatives – and regardless, the critical thing was the political/perceptual thing. To not be seen as the “aggressor.” To be seen as just wanting to go, in peace.
Make the enemy violate his own stated moral position.
Then – if it comes to it – do not fight the enemy on his terms.
Wonder how many know of this (or care)?
“US House passes legislation removing Confederate statues from Capitol Hill
House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., cited the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, in which some supporters of former President Donald Trump paraded Confederate flags and other symbols of hate, as a reason to do away with the statues.”
“…as Americans we do not celebrate those who seek to divide us.” —(lol)
72 Rhino’s agreed with this,,, as do many spineless Americans.
The below call themselves representatives…. Beam me up – Scotty. (Traficant)
Mark Amodei (R-NV)
Don Bacon (R-NE)
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The best government is no government.
The “equity” angle is an interesting one in this case. Driving around here in the DC/VA/MD metro area, just like any other metro area in which I’ve driven, there’s a WHOLE LOT of people driving stupidly and/or speeding that are *not* “white”.
While I haven’t conducted a study and can’t even cite one on the topic, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that stupid driving, dangerous driving and/or speeding can’t really be pinned on white people or anything outside of just “people”.
So I’m gonna say that we’ve already got “equity” in driving behavior… just to be generous. Because actually, I think there is a better way to categorize those that have stupid driving practices (whether they speed or not, I’m not saying “speeding is driving stupid”) and it’s not really by race. I’ll leave that as a thought exercise for the audience but I’ve got some opinions about that. Ones that woke morons won’t be terribly fond to hear/read.
There’s more proof to your hypothesis on the tube.
Only 1 year in and it’s already reminding me of the good old days back in the Soviet Union. The workers and peasants used public transportation, the low ranking party members drove themselves and the higher ranking party apparatchiks were chauffeured in their ZIL limousines.
Maybe freedom includes the right to drive a little faster whilst eating a triple cheeseburger and smoking a cigar all at the same time… Instead to them it means getting free Clot shots. Now I know they hate us for our freedom.
“They hate us for our freedoms!” George Bush the Lesser proclaimed once upon a time. Well seems as though “the terrorists” have won the war because the people in charge clearly hate our freedoms.
“Screw your freedoms!”… saith the Terminator to thunderous applause.
The only thing that seems to have caught people by surprise is that those “terrorists” that hate our freedoms and now are in charge, are not the desert dwelling, sandal wearing, Middle Easterners that we were warned about.
It’s interesting, isn’t it, that one rarely (if ever) hears that claptrap about “hating us for our freedoms” anymore. Meanwhile, the one who said it all the time – The Chimp – quietly paints his John Gacey style watercolors from the peace and quiet of his Texas ranch.
” one rarely (if ever) hears that claptrap about “hating us for our freedoms” anymore.”
We also don’t hear “our armies are there so that we can be free here” anymore. But then maybe I haven’t gone to any events lately.
When are those who “serve to protect our freedoms” [LOL] going to topple this regime? Oh…that’s right…they in-fact serve the regime and do it’s dirty work.
Briefly clicked on some clickbait video last night, in which Sean Hannity was whining about a couple of pigs catching a little payback in Harlem, and how we “need more law and order” and more subservience to “protect these heroes” who are supposedly protecting us….
Any way things go- whether to the librul actors or the conservative actors, one thing is for sure: The power of the tyrants is going to keep growing until everybody kills each other and there’s nothing left. And the average Joe Sixpack doesn’t know or care that it matters not if the boot that comes down on his neck is the right one or the left one, as long as he believes that the one crushing him is against the other side.
“Screw your freedoms!”… saith the [Austrian] to thunderous applause.
Sounds vaguely familiar, for some reason…
Well, at least if we have no freedoms, those pesky ‘terrorists’ can’t hate us! Problem solved….. but of course, we still need the obese morons who are employed by the TSA….
The demo-bolsheviks won’t be happy until every facet of life is under their thumbs. Their fantasy is for us to become North Korea. From the Simpsons Movie:
Que Weird Al:
Weird Al, is a covidian. My musical role models now are Kidd Rock and Ted Nugent. Both from Detroit.
What?! An accordion-playing doofus fears the flu? What is this world coming to?
Everything done in life is a calculated risk, driving a car, sitting down in a chair, or walking to your local farmers market. It seems the height of stupidity to say we can have autos and trucks and have zero deaths.
People die falling out of bed, right? So we can’t even have beds and zero associated deaths. Maybe next they’ll mandate that everyone sleep on a floor mat, so we can have zero falling-out-of-bed deaths? Zero excuses!
The great thing is government promises a lot and delivers very little. Major Pete only has three years left in this gig. There isn’t enough time for him to do any more than wish upon a star. He can get up there and speak prettily on how he wishes to lower speeds across America and fan the flames of an unreal expectation of “zero deaths”. This is much easier than dealing with the crises around him – transportation delays, bridges crumbling, railroads being robbed in daylight, etc.
Let the Transporation Secretary keep promoting his LaLa Land. It will never see the light of day.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Bureaucrats always play the long game.
While Mayor Pete may not be able to do much as DoT Secretary, don’t forget that he has a slush fund worth billions, courtesy of the so-called “infrastructure” bill. Mayors and governors from all over the country will be coming to kiss his ring. With this slush fund, Mayor Pete will be able to dish out a lot of favors-favors he can call in when he runs for higher office again…
Hi Mark and Ancap,
What has government accomplished in recent years? The MPG that the Dems constantly talk about is a joke. A Republican President comes into office right after the Dems change the recommendations and pushes it back. For the government to push anything through the same political party must stay in power (e.g., Illinois, California, Texas, etc.). Otherwise, it is a constant see saw approach.
Do we anticipate Major Pete running for higher office? Is anyone impressed with the job that he has done so far? If he can’t handle infrastructure do we believe he can handle an entire Presidency? We may very well disagree, but I think Mayor Pete’s next job will be somewhere on K Street lobbying.
Buttplug has been trained at the same WEF dictatorship, er “leadership” program as Newsome, Ardern, Trudope, and Macron, among many others. Whenever one of these clowns mentions
“zero” anything read it as zero freedom for people. It may be that, in the US, they will try CCP-style constant surveillance and restriction of movement and participation in society via some type of tech-scheme applied to driving and roads.
What satanic puppets like Buttplug are tasked with implementing here: https://dnyuz.com/2022/01/30/living-by-the-code-in-china-covid-era-controls-may-outlast-the-virus/
Ah, the WEF’s “Young Global Leaders”! It used to be called “Young Leaders of the Globe” or something like that, but it was a little TOO revealing, know what I mean? OBTW, Angela Merkel, the former German Chancellor, was a YGL alum too…
aka the latest incarnation of the Hitler Youth.
Well, a GROWN UP version thereof! AFAIK, one has to be over 18 to be a YGL. But yeah, it’s a big boys and girls version of the Hitler Youth, the Young Pioneers, etc.
Even though it really didn’t have the “intendended” effect, they’re going to slow us down to get to 50 MPG, just like 1977.
RG, that’s possible, but I think Bootie Gay will take another run at POTUS. The Dems cannot and will not run Creepy Joe again; he’ll be lucky to FINISH his term! Kamala is hated-even by her fellow Dems. She had polled 10%-15% at one point during her run for POTUS before Tulsi Gabbard flamed her ass. After that, she dropped to 1%; she soon thereafter dropped out of the race without having gotten a delegate. SO! Kamala isn’t the future, either.
Who will be the Dems’ standard bearer in 2024? Who’s smart, charming, articulate, charismatic, and electable? I believe that is Bootie Gay. Not only is he a good candidate; not only is he young; not only is he a committed Marxist (yeah, I said it!); he’s a lot healthier than Biden, and he’s a lot more likeable than Kamala. So, I see Bootie Gay being the Dems’ standard bearer for the 2024 POTUS campaign.
Respectfully, I have to disagree. I don’t see Mayor Pete being able to win a national election. Whether we agree with it or not there is still a pretty significant bias in this country (but mostly worldwide) regarding certain sexes, cultures, and sexual orientations. Do you think many of the leaders in Asia, Africa, and even Eastern Europe will meet with him and take him seriously? This country isn’t ready for two dads in the White House. I am not quite sure that this country is ready for a woman President either (and I am speaking as a woman). It is still a male dominated world. I know feminists everywhere are screeching at me right now, but it is true.
If they are smart the Dems would trend to a more moderate candidate. Unfortunately, I think they are going to put up the pants suit Queen again…and they will lose.
I’m surprised the donor class hasn’t pressured Oprah to run. Find some young “white” male senator (Jon Ossoff) to be her running mate and voilà!
I don’t WANT Mayor Pete to run, let alone be, POTUS! If you think Creepy Joe is bad, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
That said, I think that the Dems are grooming Mayor Pete. People who attend and graduate from the WEF’s YGL school more often than not become national leaders. Look at Angela Merkel, Justin Trudeau, Gavin Newsom, Emmanuel Macron, or Jacinda Ardern, to name but a few YGL alumni. Mayor Pete is also a YGL alum, so TPTB have bigger plans for him. The history shows this.
I think his stint at DoT is a way to lay the groundwork for a run. He’s got hundreds of billions for a slush fund. Governors and mayors from all over America will be going to DC to kiss Mayor Pete’s ring in hopes of bringing some of that bacon home to their state or city. When he runs for POTUS in 2024 (or 2028, since he’s still young), Bootie Gay will have all sorts of markers out there; he’ll be in an excellent position to collect on all those favors he did for these governors and mayors.
If you think America isn’t ready for two dads in the White House, then riddle me this: did you ever think 5-10 years ago that we’d be having fights over who uses what bathrooms? If most Americans can’t even agree on the fact that there are only two sexes, why would they have a problem with two dads in the White House?
I hope I’m wrong, and that you’re right. I would LOVE to see the Dems run Hillary again! Even many lefties don’t like her; they see her as a corporate whore, a fake, a phony, and a fraud. I believe that she’d lose. Unfortunately, it’s because she’d lose; it’s because they have few other choices but Hillary that the Dems are grooming Mayor Pete for a POTUS run in 2024. Those are my thoughts…
You know, on second thought, Gavin Newsom could be POTUS in the near future. Did you ever read about him, Pelosi, the Browns, and the Getty family (i.e. of Getty Oil fame)? Plus, he’s a good looking smooth talker, so he’ll get the women’s vote. Maybe Bootie Gay will be like Peggy Liu, and train gov’t leaders in the future?
What do you mean? V-8’s are almost dead. They will be after 2023 anywhere outside of heavy duty pickups. The commitments to kill them have come before the requirements even set in.
I could go on about things the government has “accomplished” at chipping away at, but shouldn’t need to bother. That’s the long game.
The better question is what have republican presidents shut down long term?
That faggot won’t get elected chief proctologist.
For sure the convid scam was testing the waters for all sorts of new scams…
Says Mayor Pete, who probably has not driven himself anywhere since he acquired his current office, if not well before then.
Well, he has if you count his seatless bicycle.
“Well, he has if you count his seatless bicycle.”
I just spilled my coffee…
“We cannot tolerate the continuing crisis of roadway deaths in America,” because the US government is bankrupt, and needs to spend more on things like , instead of roads for people to travel on. After all, its not like the federal government has spent 70 years promoting that very thing, by building the Interstate Highway system. Which incidentally put much of the rail system, self driving freight transport, out of business.
“on things like (insert progressive cause)”
Just think how many potholes could be filled with the uncountable billions spent on the useless forever wars. Who gives a rat’s ass what happens in Ukraine, but Uncle somehow thinks he gets to rule the world. Sick of it.
It’s really sad that the communists have done this to our country. Hopefully enough legitimate voters can wake up to this disaster soon and stop electing for our destruction.
Not at all sure voting will prevent our descent into the lowest common denominator. Too many want you deprived of the ability to exceed their capability.
Just like voting for your prison guard doesn’t make you free, voting for politicians doesn’t make things better.
It may make them worse slower, but the velocity of government is toward bigger & more controlling.
I won’t deny that some politicians have been better than others but the way to more freedom is to not participate in their system as much as possible.
There are no saviors on the ballet.
Sure we can go ahead and vote. Us and all the illegal aliens they’re flying into major cities in several states. And dead people. And the people whose votes get counted several times. Who knows the number? Gee I wonder but wild ass guess is it will be the number needed to tip the balance to democrat candidates in each of the swing states. I hope I am just a “conspiracy theorist” here but it looks to me like elections are going to be pretty buttoned up by 2024.