Many of us – who are not criminals – fear and dislike cops. This apparent dichotomy is interesting but also easily understandable. The cops are, after all, just doing their jobs – as they often say as they hand you a ticket for something like “speeding” or making an “illegal” U Turn. It feels wrong – hence the dislike and the fear. But if you think about it, it’s not the cops – the enforcers of the law – who are the problem. The fundamental problem is the laws – plural – that have nothing to do with crime rather than those who enforce these laws.
We live under a kind of Talmudic law that creates “crimes” and “offenses” that involve no actual harm done to anyone. People are regularly punished for such “crimes” and “offenses,” too.
This is a very strange thing when you think about it. It is something most of us instinctively know is wrong – which is very interesting when you stop to think about it. What I mean is that most of us, when we see the flashing lights behind us, do not feel we’ve done a wrong thing and are about to get what we deserve. We feel angry as well as fearful, since we are now the object of the attentions of a man with a gun. We do not feel like a criminal – in the proper sense – feels. Of course , the actual criminal probably also feels angry as well as fearful, since he has been caught and naturally wants to get away with whatever it is he’s done. But he recognizes that he has done something wrong rather than merely illegal, even if he feels no moral twinge about the harms he has caused.
There is an important difference there.
Almost everyone has, at some point, been issued what is blandly called a “ticket.” That is the terms used for the piece of paper you’re issued by a cop that says you must hand over a certain amount of money to the state as punishment for the “offense” you have committed, such as not wearing a seatbelt or “speeding.”
Almost no one who has received a “ticket” for suc an “offense” feels shame. They feel aggrieved. That feeling arises from a knowing that they are the victim here, another interesting facet of this business. An actual criminal knows he has victimized someone – even if he doesn’t feel ashamed for having done this.
Another, related aspect, is that this Talmudic system of “laws” that must be “enforced” is that it has corrupted the cops, too. Good men with moral sense feel wrong about bullying people who’ve done nothing to cause any harm. It is unseemly for a man to do such a thing. It requires a dulling of the moral sense – of empathy and conscience – to “pull over” people just trying to get to wherever they’re going and hand them a “ticket” because they did not hew exactly to some arbitrary legal requirement (such as wearing a seatbelt) that you know involved no harm done to anyone. It is legalized bullying and of course this tends to attract bullies. This is the reason why there are what people call bad cops. Of course there are.
What else did you expect?
Yes, there are good cops, too.
But it is difficult – because it is cognitively dissonant – for them to remain good when their job requires them to be bad. It is corrupting.
It is always bad to bully and mulct other people who’ve done nothing wrong. It is worse when a person who is good is placed in the potion of having to be a bully in order to earn his salary. It turns him into what he probably wasn’t once. Having the sanction of the law does not make it right. 
This is what Jesus was trying to get across, by the way, when he drove the money changers out of the temple and denounced the Sanhedrin for their Talmudism; i.e., their pedantic legalism. The Talmud (and Torah, which is the Old Testament) is full of such. Petty minutia about how (exactly) to do this and not do that; i.e., various arbitrary rules that must be obeyed just because. Not because a thing is right rather than wriong. Enforcing that sort of stuff would weary and eventually degrade the best man. The only way to cope with being the enforcer of such is to become a kind of robot.
The law is the law. I am just doing my job.
Now, imagine if the job of a cop was to go after criminals – as opposed to law-breakers. Imagine if the only laws pertained to crimes, i.e., to those actions that involved the deliberate causing of harm to others. Theft, bodily harm – that sort of thing. Put another way, imagine if being a peaceful person whose actions cause no harm assured they’d never have to worry about cops. People who aren’t criminals might actually stop feeling nervous around them. They might actually come to regard them as protectors rather than predators.
This was once largely the actual fact, before the American legal system embraced Talmudism. The Constitution – including the Bill of Rights – is just a few sheafs of paper; a pamphlet and one that can be read and understood easily by anyone of average intelligence in about an hour. It is statutory law.
Case law – the reams of law created by judges who parse the statutory law – is the Talmudic law. The two are incompatible things. More finely, case law renders statutory law an irrelevance.
It leads to endless laws – and their enforcement, just because.
Which creates “criminals” out of all of us as well as the cops, who in a very real and tragic sense actually are criminals because “just doing their jobs” is exactly that.
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You don’t have to tell them anything. Donut molesters are trained by our greatest ally and certainly not your friend.
If 10% of people fought their ticket, the whole thing would collapse.
True. Often just showing up will get a no show cop and it will be thrown out.
In some states you get the option of having a jury trial, probably 1% insisting on that would clog up the system enough to get something to change. (Most likely by taking away that option…). Thing is, you *can* get a jury trial but you’ll still probably lose & then you get stuck paying court costs.
I’m not saying winning is impossible, but they sure make it difficult.
Here in Michigan jury trials for traffic offenses have been abolished. Traffic tickets are now “civil infractions” and do not warrant a jury trial.
You’ll never get a jury trial for a civil traffic ticket. For a criminal traffic infraction you should request one. Help the sloth of leviathan be it’s own demise, throw a monkey wrench in whenever you can.
‘Case law is the Talmudic law.’ — eric
America inherited case law from the English common law tradition, which was the law of the land in the American colonies until 1776.
It does have benefits: the accumulation of case law enhances judicial predictability, as compared to a system where every judge (or AI bot) tries to fit a particular case to the statutes de novo, with highly uncertain results.
Unlike physics, where the acceleration of gravity will measure 32.2 ft/sec² every time you test it, the law is a highly imprecise and subjective field, deeply warped by human biases.
This is most apparent at the Supreme Court, where justices tend to reflect the partisan leanings of the president who appointed them, decades later.
It’s depressing that ‘the law’ is so bereft of objectivity. After 237 years of twisting its plain meaning, most of the Constitution is practically defunct. What happened to gold-backed currency? What happened to declarations of war? What happened to the prohibition on double jeopardy?
How sad that some talented people devote their careers to the squishy, amorphous undertaking of ‘practicing law.’ I can’t count the number of middle-aged NYC lawyers who told me that they were searching for a second career, after realizing what a dead end they were trapped in. They’d probably be happier as cops …
The problem is Thomas Jefferson (and his fellow founders) equated natural laws and natural rights to mortal laws and rights. A natural law is something immutable (or apparently so from our persepctive), such as gravity. Thus a natural right, such as declared in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, are supposedly immutable.
By calling the diktats derived from the founding documents “laws” they are given a rhetorical weight they don’t deserve. Their possible intention was that our government was supposed to bind itself within natural laws and pass their mortal laws that could only extend from that basis.
But Madison saw to it that this would not be the case and we got men who thought themselves gods. They might pass “laws” that say gravity is not so and honestly think these “laws” must be obeyed and punished for noncompliance, that is the level of their derangement.
I love the sentiment expressed in the illustration at the top of this article. However much I would love to express a similar opinion to an AGW doing so would probably end up with a hut-hutting for contempt of cop.
Most people will just say do the speed limit. It’s the law. If you’re not breaking the law, you have nothing to worry about. Safety trumps liberty. You should wear you’re seat belt. You need a driver’s license. You need to register your car to the state and have a license plate in your car. You need to have auto insurance, and if the state doesn’t mandate you to have it, there would be wrecks everywhere, and we all would be less safe. There is nothing wrong with the law. It is good. And if you think that it violates your liberty, you’re a complete retard, and should be locked up yourself.
Most Americans don’t care about freedom and liberty, and don’t deserve. They reject freedom just like they reject Christ. And most people are pussies. That’s why this country is the way it is now.
Compliance only encourages the bastards.
You’re nibbling around the edges of the problem. The crux is that the law is ignored almost always. This is not supposed to be a democracy, in fact the entire constitution is designed to precisely describe what few things a government is allowed to do. The second amendment is not written to make a government that can rule over supine subjects and enforce illegitimate laws. Nor is the first, the fourth, the fifth, the ninth, the third, etc.
But the entire system is corrupted by the twisted idea that whatever is voted on by a pack of feral lawyers and not vetoed by a governor is in fact law, and it’s ok to torch people to obey.
A vote is first and foremost a veto, every enactment is presumptively invalid and infinitely challengeable.
So how many times did you bend over and take a jab, and subsequent boosters, Chris? And When the Feds come to confiscate your firearms, remember to hand over your balls, too. After all, if they say it is the law, then you must be a pleb and comply. Arguing that “if one is doing the speed limit you have nothing to hide” is a pussy excuse given for when SHTF, and people comply for their own comfort, and to save their own skins. I bet you still lock your house doors at night. ‘Cause hey, if you have “nothing to hide…” you should not have to do so. Seriously, if you have not figured out by now that the LEO’s can still pull you over, drag you out of your car, and kill you (resisting arrest, you see) regardless of your going the speed limit, then you are one sorry sucker indeed. Speak for yourself when you state that “most Americans do not care about freedom and liberty.” Neither do you, apparently.
You must have missed to the part at the beginning where I said “most people would say”. I never taken the jab nor wore a mask. I even lost a job for refusing to wear the face diaper. What I was stating is what is regularly is told to me when talking about these over reaching laws. Yes I do comply with the state’s orders when it comes to having a driver’s license, car registration, license plate, and auto insurance because it’s a fight that I and most of us can’t afford to fight. And it’s unfortunate. What I was also pointing out is how brainwashed most Americans have become. Trained by government run schools to be deaf, blind, dumb, conforming, obedient slaves. I was there once, and so were you. Revolution has to take place in the mind first before it goes into the physical world. What I have observed is that most people in this country are not ready for freedom and independence, and a lot of them don’t deserve it. Some even reject it just like they reject Christ. And maybe I’m misunderstanding what I’m reading in the Bible, but God doesn’t reward a decadent society that encourages sin. God is pasting His judgment on America right now.
I do agree with you there, ChrisB. The American society is indeed decadent, self-righteous, and think that because (in general, including churches) it is the USA, they will always be free. I do not think too many are going to stand up and fight, either, when they are backed into a corner. It is too much work, costs them too much, and with no guarantee in the end, of their results of fighting. Then again, history shows that wins often come to the tiny minority over the strong, seemingly impenetrable majority. No, I do not believe, either, that God is going to reward such a decadent society. It truly is sad. Also, forgive me for my misunderstanding. Chalk it up to a weird day on my part.
“You need to have auto insurance, and if the state doesn’t mandate you to have it, there would be wrecks everywhere, and we all would be less safe.”
If you think handing money over to a bunch of thugs is going to stop people from crashing, then forget the bridge. I’ll sell you all of Lower Manhattan!
I was going to get into a wreck today, but then I remembered that I have insurance now. So far so good!
Bluegrey (great name by the way). You misunderstood me. This is what other people tell me. I’m a free market guy. You want to have auto insurance for your car, have at it. I believe that if the state can force you by law to purchase something, or use the law to penalize you if you choose not to have it is anti free market and wrong. It’s also fascism/communism. As far as selling lower Manhattan, you can keep it. I’ve seen the commie nuts that run that place.
Amen, Chris!
The dangerous premise underlying mandatory car insurance is that it is acceptable to force people to pay for harm they have not caused – because they might cause harm. Well, why not require people who own guns to “cover” the cost of the harm they might cause with a gun? Or dog owners, for that matter. Where does it end? Well, it doesn’t – in principle. If they can force us to pay for harms we have not caused with our cars, they can in principle force us to pay for harms we have not caused with our guns or dogs or our dicks, for that matter.
>why not require people who own guns to “cover” the cost of the harm they might cause with a gun?
Don’t give them any ideas, Eric.
>or our dicks,
They already do that. It’s called paying for the “education” of other people’s children, including 3 free meals a day @ “school”, in many cases.
I echo Adi’s comment. But then again, isn’t this kind of taking place already? I thought it was Washington State (someone correct me on this one), that uses an “ammo/ gun tax” of some sort to pay for damages that guns caused (but never mind it was the criminal, and not the law abiding)?
Do not give them any ideas, Chris B. Resisting arrest is bad enough when the LEO’s beat you, you defend yourself (block, the blows), and then get slapped with such a charge. “Contempt Of Cop” these days is par for the course, given the behaviour of the “Brothers In Blue”.
“But if you think about it, it’s not the cops – the enforcers of the law – who are the problem.”
If my boss came to me and told me I must go and abuse that person over there, I would tell him to fuck right off, and I’d go find another job.
Cops do not tell their bosses to F-off. They go ahead and do the evil shit they’re told to do.
Then a bunch of them go home and drink and do drugs and abuse their families because they hate themselves.
If you are a detective that solves crimes to the best of your ability, with integrity, I salute you. I imagine these are few and far between.
I used to think sort of along the lines of mostly good people in bad jobs. It’s a cognitive dissonance we all have to deal with. That was because my grandfather and uncle were cops and they didn’t seem like bad people. Now that they’re both gone and the mask of LEOs has been ripped off. Maybe 30 years ago when my relatives were cops they were different and it’s a matter of post Sept11 militarization. I don’t think that’s really the case, though. Cops have always been intended to guard the elite from the masses, even 150 years ago. But when gramps and uncle Kevin were doing the job they hadn’t yet been asked to do the really evil shit so it wasn’t obvious to a 10 year old me.
The bigger problem is if you boil it down almost every job that exists supports the system. OK, you’re not a cop but you work for a textiles manufacturer who has a contract to make uniform shirts. Is that any better? You might be a factory worker making tires or Ford Explorers. You’re just an IT peon at AT&T but their whole cellular division is basically geared to keep First Net up and running for the “heroes” and all that. The U.S.A. is a war machine, everything we do is just a couple of steps removed from going to the military or police. Even if the primary customer isn’t them they have contracts that say all it takes is a declaration by a president or governor to make it so. At the stroke of a pen anything can be reallocated.
Indeed Hank
You see what most Murican’s cannot see and/or will not admit to.
I’ve never worked directly on any project that was specifically for the military. I’m pretty sure I’ve avoided the ones for prisons, also.
But (a) they don’t always tell you everything and (b) you can work on something but in the endend Webster you come up with, the company owns it & they can use it for whatever they want and (c) any business of any size is going to pick up government contracts if they’re available & lucrative. Not everyone is a government contractor…but they aren’t going to give you their entire customer list during the interview process, and what about in a couple years when something comes along?
I tell my boss where to get off from time to time.
He hates it.
Especially when it turns out that I’m right. Which isn’t every time, but (so far) it’s clearly often enough that I still have a job.
In a Marxist-Socialist-Communist society, no single person owns their personal human effort. The state does. Lenin knew this would never work, in that no one is going to work hard or at all for someone else’s benefit. Hence, he had to create a slave state of gulags to make it work.
When we commit a so called traffic offense, no matter how minor or insignificant, we must sacrifice some of our human effort in the form of dollars to the state. When we reach digital currency, the state will simply *withhold* some of the human effort in dollars since the state has control of your bank account.
[A friend of mine 20 years ago in California, had an old motorcycle he left on the side yard and let the registration lapse. One day he noticed his bank account was debited $400 for late registration by the DMV. The state of CA reached into his private account and *took* his money. His human effort.]
We’re almost there.
This is why body cameras are a double edged sword. On the one hand, they keep watch on the police and protect them from trash lawsuits or false allegations if they are acting correctly, but on the other hand, they stop police discretion to not charge someone based on their judgment. There was a lot of that going on that has been stopped in favor of blindly following the law. Not that discretion was removed completely, but management in many departments reviews bodycam footage daily and will question why things are being done. Should you choose not to issue a citation or arrest, that may have consequences for your career. And body cams are always on- the difference between being activated and not is whether or not the department can easily access the footage, or has to call the body cam company to request the footage be emailed over.
To me abolish cops you have a burned out light get the full police state treatment if a politician get caught being a pedo or for murder it’s ok let them walk every time
And I don’t need someone to keep me (safe) I take care of myself.
Is this why I never see re runs of Adam 12 on anywhere? Kinda makes you wonder…..or is it just me?
It’s on Me TV
https://metv.com/shows/adam-12
Do you know the difference between us and our rulers?
When they commit crimes they are ignored. When we commit ‘crimes’ they nail us to a cross.
From this I’ve learned that no matter how morally depraved the crimes committed by our rulers are they will never be punished but if I drive 65 in a 55 zone the full force of GovCo will get unleashed on me.
And yet they don’t understand why I don’t care about them anymore.
Real people don’t commit crimes, for the most part. We break rules, that are almost always arbitrary and malicious. That’s the difference.
Good message during Holy Week. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son… and the leaders crucified him for pointing out that the leaders were wrong.
If the Zionists got their wish and Judgement Day was tomorrow, which side would they land on? Everything in my bible says they’ll denounce Jesus and complain that he isn’t really Christ returned. Then they’ll prop up some false demonic god instead. Make sure you get your mark today or you might not be able to buy Oreos!
Apologies to those who have seen this screed previously on this site. I believe that it bears reposting.
Here goes:
Here is a guest article that deserves the light of day:
No One Cares If You Go Home Safe At The End Of Your Shift
Jan 02, 201812:50AM
Category: Politics
Posted by: Michael Z. Williamson
Here at the house, I have a couple of decades plus of military experience. I have tools to dig in or out of natural disasters. I have extinguishers and hoses. I have a field trauma kit and bandages. I have weapons both melee and firearm. I know how to use them. I know how to trench, support and revet. I understand the fire triangle and appropriate approaches. I understand breathing, bleeding and shock. I know how to detain, restrain and control. I have done all of these at least occasionally, professionally. I’ve stood on top of a collapsing levee in a flood. I’ve fought a structure fire from inside so we could get everyone out before the fire department showed up, which only took two minutes, but people can die that fast. I’ve had structures collapse while I was working on them. I’ve been in an aircraft that had a “mechanical” on approach and had to be repaired in-flight before landing. I’ve helped control a brush fire. I’ve hauled disabled vehicles out of ditches in sub-zero weather.
My ex wife has over a decade of service and some of the same training.
We have trained our young adult children.
My wife is a rancher who knows her way around a shotgun, livestock, sutures and tools, hurricanes and floods, and works in investigations professionally.
Our current house guest is another veteran.
This means if anything happens at the house, and last year we had a lightning strike, a tornado and a flood within 10 days’ we’re pretty well prepared.
Now, we’re probably better off than 95% of the households out there. The level of disaster that necessitates backup varies.
If we find it necessary to call 911, it means the party is in progress and it’s bad.
You will probably not be going home safe at the end of your shift.
And you know what? If it gets to that point, I really don’t give a sh!t. I don’t give a sh!t if you get smoked. I don’t give a sh!t if you fall under a tree. I don’t give a sh!t if you get shot at.
Because at that point, I’ve done everything I can with that same circumstance, and run out of resources.
If my concern was “you going home safe,” then I’d just f#cking hunker down and die. Because I wouldn’t want that poor responder to endanger himself.
Except, that’s what I pay taxes for, and that’s what you signed up for. Just like I signed up to walk into a potential nuke war in Germany and hold off the Soviets, and did walk into the Middle East and prepare to take fire while keeping expensive equipment functioning so our shooters could keep shooting.
There’s not a single set of orders I got that said my primary job was to “Come home safe.” They said it was to “support the mission” or “complete the objective.” Coming home safe was the ideal outcome, but entirely secondary to “supporting” or “completing.” Nor, once that started, did I get a choice to quit. Once in, all in.
When that 80 year old lady smells smoke or hears a noise outside her first floor bedroom in the ghetto, she doesn’t care if you go home safe, either. She’s afraid she or the kids next door won’t wake up in the morning.
If I call, I expect your ass to show up, sober, trained, professional. I expect you to wade in with me or in place of me, and drag a child out of a hole, or out from a burning room, or actually stand up and block bullets from hitting said child, because by the time you get there, I’ll have already done all that. And there will be field dressings, chainsawed trees, buckets and empty brass scattered about.
I don’t want to hear some drunk and confused guy squirming on the ground playing “Simon Says” terrified you so much you had to blow him away. I don’t want to hear that some random guy 35 yards away who you had no actual information on , may have reached toward his waist band. Or that “the tree might fall any moment” or that “the smoke makes it hard to see.”
Near as I can tell, I don’t hear the smokejumpers, or the firefighters, or the disaster rescue people say such things.
But it’s all I ever hear from the cops. If you and your five girlfriends in body armor, with rifles, are that terrified of actually risking your life for the theoretically dangerous job you volunteered for and can quit any time, then please do quit.
You can get a job doing pest control and go home safe every night.
Until a bunch of f#cking pussies with big tattoos, small dicks, body armor and guns blow you away for minding your own business.
Because what you’re telling me with that statement is, your only concern is cashing a check. That’s fine. But if that’s your concern, don’t pretend you’re serving the public. If you wanted to help people at risk of life, you would be a firefighter, running into buildings, dragging people out, getting scorched regularly.
If you’re cool with writing tickets, then there’s jobs where you can do just that.
If you want to tangle with bad guys and blow them away, fair enough. But understand: That means they get to shoot first to prove their intent, just as happens with the military these days. Our ROE these days are usually “only if fired upon and no civilians are at risk.”
If your plan is “shoot first, shoot later, shoot some more, then if anyone is still alive try to ask questions,” and bleat, “But I was afeard fer mah lahf!” you’re absolutely no better than the thugs you claim to oppose. All you are is another combatant in a turf war I don’t care about.
Since I know your primary concern is “being safe,” then I’ll do you the favor of not calling. Cash your welfare check, and try not to shoot me at a “courtesy” sobriety checkpoint for “twitching my eye “in a way that suggested range estimation.
If you’re one of the vanishingly few cops who isn’t like that, then what the hell are you doing about it? If there’s going to be a lawsuit costing the city millions, isn’t it better that it be a labor suit from the union over the clown you fired, than a wrongful death suit over the poor bastard the clown shot? Both are expensive, but one has a dead victim you enabled. So how much do you actually care about that life?
How is the training so bad that it’s not clear who is the scene commander who gives the orders?
How is it that trigger happy bozos who, out of costume, look no different from the gangbangers you claim to oppose, get sent up front to fulfill their wish of hosing someone down because “I was afraid for my life!”?
Why does the rot exist in your department?
If you can’t do anything about it, why are you still in that department?
At some point, collective guilt is a thing.
You’ve probably not been a good cop for a long time.
And I still don’t care if you go home safe. I care that everyone you purport to “serve and protect” goes home safe.
What’s up with all this Boomer copy and paste slop that is so prevalent here?
Don’t have an original thought of your own, well then, copy & paste someone else’s.
Eric takes the time to write an article based in libertarian thought and the best you can respond with is a copy paste job of something that’s been on your clip board and recycled here a dozen times before?
You don’t like it, don’t read it. I’ll bet that you are a Karen who is easily offended. Help to restore mental health is readily available. Please make use of it. Free resources are available for those who cannot afford to pay…
Share posts all you want, Anarchyst. You are sharing with the group something that is relevant to the discussion, or posted article. Hell, I have shared a few comments that have been posted here over the years, that I love (and some are down right hilarious, even more so because it contains truth). I do not claim to be the author of said shared posts, so I am not sure where the hang-up is?
Mike Z is a decent writer of military sci fi, and worth supporting by buying his books. And this screed is worthy of lots of re posting.
“Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
…Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
…You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?”
Matthew 23
North Alabama was running speed traps last weekend (Friday through Sunday) involving local, county, and state po po. In the news one of ’em bragged about “pulling over” nearly 3,000 cars. Must be quite the payday squeezing the citizens who only wished to go from point a to point b in a reasonable fashion. OT: not many have slowed down even tho 87 octane in my area is just shy $4 now.
“Having the sanction of the law does not make it right.”
Gee, if ONLY more people understood this. But then again, morality doesn’t make for good entertainment, now does it? Bottom line, most people are sadists, who desire nothing more, than to see the rest of us suffer.
2020 made the sadistic tendencies of this country painfully clear. 6 years on and nothing has fundamentally been changed.
I agree, Right On –
Nothing has felt the same since 2019. I miss the Before Time.
I wonder if previous generations felt this way… probably. I wish I could ask my wise old Grandpa his thoughts on the goings-on today. But part of me is glad he wasn’t subjected to this.
It feels to me like the world ended around 1999 and whatever this is, this poorly constructed amalgamation, is a bad joke or dream that I will wake from in short order.
When I was growing up the “liberals” — most of them weren’t really “lefties” at the time — were constantly lecturing us about the Milgram experiment, fascism, the concentration camps, etc. and trying to convince us it could “happen here” if we weren’t vigilant. All Frankfurt School stuff.
Of course they thought that “the conservatives” and the religious “Puritans” would be the ones to implement it. Turns out the Left and the Karens were the real fascists.
Somewhere along the line something in the ethos of the left wing really shifted. Hard to say what or when. Certainly wasn’t overnight, it kind of snuck in.
I do remember right after 9/11 there were a handful of ultra-left-wing peaceniks who spoke out against going to Afghanistan, and we all dismissed them as a bunch of kooks and naïfs (myself included). And again in the lead up to Iraq (which I also supported at the time). (I now regret that). Best I can figure, is that after all of that losing they just kind of splintered apart and got reassembled into a much angrier woke neo-Marxist identity politics monster. Maybe because the older ones (they were mostly aging hippies) aged out and that’s where the younger ones found their audience?