CA Heroes Explain That An “Inspection” Isn’t a “Search”

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In an enraging display of government double-speak, disregard for the Constitution, and deflection of personal responsibility by police and other state enforcers, a California family was arrested and their child was kidnapped for standing up for their right to be secure in their persons and property last month.

inspection_bitchVideo posted to social media Wednesday details the experience of the Feinman Family as they were accosted at a draconian “agricultural inspection” checkpoint on Highway 395N in Long Valley between California and Nevada.

The California Department of Food and Agriculture operates 16 such agriculture inspection stationsthat are located along the major highways that enter the state for the stated purpose of “helping the Governor and Legislature ensure delivery of safe food and fiber through responsible environmental stewardship in a fair marketplace for all Californians.”

The footage begins with the family making its way through the checkpoint to sounds of a state agricultural officer asking, “where ya coming from?” before Mr. Feinman asserts that his family “don’t answer questions” and will be on their way.

“You’re gonna go?” the Ag officer asks. “This is just an agricultural inspection, I’m wondering where you are traveling from?”

Mr. Feinman rightly tells the man that its “none of his business” where his family was traveling from and the officer radios his partner or superior for help, and says he needs to know if the family has “any agricultural articles on board.”

Enter Ag officer “Stacy” and her Orwellian double-speak.

“If you keep driving, I will contact the authorities and have them bring you back to the facility,” the woman says. “We need to conduct an inspection on the vehicle.”

“Do you have a warrant?” Mr. Feinman asks. “Cause you’re not inspecting anything without a warrant. Do you know the Fourth Amendment? I’m free from warrantless searches.”

“I don’t need a warrant, there is no search here,” Stacy says as she attempts to perform linguistic gymnastics. “You’re speaking of an Amendment that classifies searches. We are not searching. [It’s] an inspection. The conveyance needs to be inspected for agricultural hosts.”

“So what part of the vehicle are you planning to inspect?” Feinman asks.

“We need to inspect the vehicle in the back and any ice-chests you may have on board,” Stacy responds.

“Oh, so you mean inside? That’s a search,” Feinman asserts – To which the officer unbelievably states again, “It’s not a search, it is an inspection.”

“That’s exactly what a search is,” Feinman says bringing up the Fourth Amendment again. “Don’t you understand the Bill of Rights?”

feinman(1)Stacy stands dumbfounded for several seconds before saying, “I’m not going to engage in this with you. I never said the word search. You’re talking about something other than the Fourth Amendment.”

Feinman then precedes to deconstruct the woman’s argument before asking if his family is free to go.

Stacy tells the man that he isn’t free to go and Feinman asks if he is being detained before the officer tells him “he” is free to go but his “conveyance” is not.

Feinman then asks the officer to differentiate between what a “search” and an “inspection” is before she fails to make any distinction saying, “I don’t have a definition of a search,” and reasserts, “I don’t search, I inspect.”

“So you think that word frees you from your obligations to the Constitution?” Feinman asks.

“I’m not really sure what your question is,” Stacy says, and Feinman reads her the text of the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution which says:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The Ag officer then cites that “the initial contact” officers had with the Feinman family, coupled with the fact that he had “a number of insects on the front of [his] vehicle,” indicated that the family may have been coming from some where that might be of concern.

Feinman continues to stand up for his Constitutional rights and leaves the warrantless checkpoint with Stacy telling him she is going to call police employees to bring the family back so they can have their liberty violated.

The footage then shows the Feinmans being pulled over by what appears to be officers with the Nevada County Sheriff’s Department and California Highway Patrol.

Feinman continues to assert his rights as officers attempt to extort him with citations, and  threaten to pull him out of his vehicle and have his children kidnapped by Child Protective Services.

Feinman asks what law he has broken and one officer replies that he is in violation of the “California Food and Agriculture Code,” before telling him to exit his vehicle so they can write him a ticket – and asserts in so many words that the checkpoint is not compulsory as individuals can refuse and “go back to Nevada.”

“But I live in California,” Feinman says. “Does the Agriculture code trump the U.S. Constitution? I’m a free citizen. Did you guys take an oath to defend the Constitution?”

choices_cop“So you’re a Constitutionalist is what you’re saying?” another officer says after telling Feinman he is being unreasonable.

“Yes, yes I am,” Feinman boldly asserts. “What are you?”

Then, unbelievably, the officer responds by saying,“we’ve had problems with this before.”

Feinman asks the officer again if he took an oath to uphold the Constitution and the cop tells the man not to sidetrack the conversation.

The officers then walk away as Feinman attempts to read them the Fourth Amendment, before – moments later – an officer identifying himself as an “off-duty” California Highway Patrol Sergeant informs the man that, “all [officers] want to do is write [him] a ticket and if [he] can’t do that then [officers] are going to have to break the window and get in and take [him] out.”

The Sgt. then claims Feinmans behavior is “totally unnecessary” and says “this is your choice right now… we have given you ever opportunity we can,” before – as if compelled by some supernatural force beyond their control – an officer smashes out the back window of the vehicle and arrest the occupants.

“This is a complete violation of my rights,” Feinman says.

“Well, maybe,” the officer that did the property damage stops short of saying.

In videos posted to social media, it is claimed that the vehicle was searched and impounded, that excessive bail was set for the family, and that one child was taken by CPS.

While many may decide from the footage that Feinman should have just complied with the officers and received a citation, the incident should instead be a lesson to all that illustrates what happens now to people in the United States who stand up for their rights.

There can be no compromise when dealing with petty tyrants – not if we wish to reclaim our liberty.

“If you stand up for your rights, this is what you get,” Feinman said in the footage. “Id like to be free to travel and this is what I get.”

Watch the raw footage:


Supporters of the Feinmans are asking that people stand up for principle and liberty by calling Nevada County Sheriff Keith Royal and demanding that he protect the U.S. Constitution:

Telephone number: 530-265-1471
Email address: [email protected]

Deputy District Attorney Anna Tyner can be reached at:

Telephone number: 530-582-7832
Email address: [email protected]

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23 COMMENTS

  1. I routinely travel I15 between Escondido and SR91, so I am very familiar with the inspection station south of Temecula. I cannot recall having been directed to “pull over for inspection.” Mostly, they just wave me through. Guaranteed, I have never been asked “Where are you coming from?” Had they done so, I would likely have responded, “San Diego County,” since that is what is south of there. But, that never happened. Inshallah, it never will.

    Those who have been to Hawaii will recognize that the protocol w.r.t. “The Islands,” is exactly reversed. There, they hassle you upon departure, rather than arrival. I do not know who gets to eat the small mountain of fruit (anything with seeds) which gets confiscated at the airport. but it is quite a haul.

  2. eric, you are so dumb, like the bald guy there. No need to argue coz I can tell when I see one and it’s right here, named eric (with clover leaf).

    The Authorities are right. That bald guy deserves it. pffft

    • Covid,

      You might begin with something more thoughtful than “you are so dumb.” And then you proceed with “no need to argue,” establishing you have no argument.

  3. Key word that all y’all dumbasses refuse to acknowledge: unreasonable.

    AG stations at the CA border conduct REASONABLE searches.

    Get fucking dunked

    • Hi Anon,

      Who gets to define what “reasonable” is? The government? According to what standard? I’ve got family in CA and have been there many times. I’ve had to deal with their unreasonable (to me) “checkpoints” – at which people who’ve given no reason at all to suspect they’ve done anything illegal, let alone wrong, are compelled to stop by armed government workers and compelled to answer their unwarranted questions. These AGWs have it in their power to hassle anyone who enters one of these “checkpoints,” absent any legitimate reason for it, beyond their power to do it.

      PS: Please refrain from calling others here “morons.” It lowers the level of things.

      • Its not “unreasonable” they want to inspect for insects or other things because invasive spieces will kill the environment and can have a damaging affect on people and living conditions in areas where the invasive species doesnt belong. Here is a visual, if a bunch of seeds of a native plant from Nevada gotten attacked to your vehicle and you tried to drive and enter California and get through and those seeds fall and seed themselves into the ground and grow…whats stopping those plants from spreading and taking over everything it can? It doesnt have its natrual preditor in California so whats going to keep its population levels reasonable?
        Go online and search invasive spiece within your state/region. You will see there are a lot and you might remember seeing a lot.of that plant. Some might think its “fine” but its not. Its harmful to the environment and can kill of spieces.
        They have reason and that reason is to make sure the environment doesnt get overtaken or destroyed by another spieces from another state. Your rights arent going to be stolen from you, and its only going to take a few minutes, dont be such a baby. They only want to check a few places to make sure nothing is there.

        Also there is a difference between a “Search” and an “inspection”.
        ‘Search’ involves an attempt to find something. Search, in tax/legal parlance, is an action of a government official (a tax officer or a police officer, depending on the case) to go and look through or examine carefully a place, person, object etc. in order to find something concealed or to discover evidence of a crime. The search can only be done under the proper and valid authority of law.

        ‘Inspection’ is the act of examining something, often closely. In tax/legal language, it is a softer provision than search. It enables officers to access any place of business of a taxable person and also any place of business of a person engaged in transporting goods or who is an owner/operator of a warehouse or godown.

        • Hi Eli,

          You appear to have missed the entire point of the article – about over-the-top and gratuitously punitive measures taken by Armed Government Workers. The victims in this case were victimized because they declined to answer AGW questions, which – by law – they are not required to answer. But failure to answer amounts to the unwritten “crime” of Affronting an Officer. The rest played out accordingly.

          The AGWs claim they are only “inspecting” the victims’ vehicle. This being of a piece with a “tax” not being robbery-theft. A search is what was insisted upon, in clear violation (absent probable cause) of the constitutional protections against such arbitrary and probable-cause-free searches.

          You write:

          “They only want to check a few places to make sure nothing is there.” It’s all for our Safety and they would never use the excuse to paw through your things to find other things besides “insects” and contraband plants.

          Americans will never recover their freedom so long as they defend submission to government thugs.

  4. The “libertarianism” only works if people take personal responsibility to protecting the public good or community from the consequences of their actions.

    Yet ever single libertarian I see whining oh the internet is entirely focused on their invidious rights and demonstrates a pathological disregard for public safety, public good, or the health of community they live in.

    It is embarrassing and continues to by why libertarianism is a fringe political movement and incompatible to sustaining a functional and prosperous society.

    • Hi Lars,

      You write:

      “…every single libertarian I see whining oh the internet is entirely focused on their invidious rights and demonstrates a pathological disregard for public safety, public good, or the health of community they live in.”

      I’d be interested in some specificity. What do you mean, exactly, by “public safety” and the “public good” and the “health of the community”? I hope you don’t mean the wearing of Face Diapers…

  5. Watch this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YARMZsFFCM) for clarity on what the law actually says. This idiot was clearly in the WRONG and your article further illustrates that he is not the only one having difficulty in understanding the difference between an “inspection” and a “search”. This is exactly why he and his son were both sentenced to jail and community service for their stupidity.

    • It’s funny how the side that favors more government power calls people stupid for not being able to play lawyer games on the side of the road or any other place as the government uses all sorts of clever wording, definitions, and court decisions and so on to violate people’s rights yet will then ridicule the sovereign citizen types and others who play the same game. It’s hilarious how when the government is allowed to decide when to play semantic games between things like “search” and “inspection” but the moment some mundane cracks open a law dictionary and tries the same game to protect their rights then plain and ordinary effective language is to be used. It’s always what case benefits government power.

      I’ve told this story before about how a car I had stored in my driveway and behind the line formed by the back wall of my house was ticketed for inop and abandoned yet the law clearly stated that for both the vehicle had to be parked on the street. The inop required a vital part missing and this car was completely operational. Get in, turn the key, go. It simply wasn’t being used. But when I tried to present the written law in court the “judge” got angry and waved it off. See the purpose of the law to prevent blight or whatever was all that mattered not the written requirements in the law. But ya know what, if I’m driving entirely safely and a cop finds I didn’t dot some i or cross some t I can’t go in argue the intent of the law and that I followed that, it will be the technical written requirements for those tickets. Whatever gives the government more power and money. If it weren’t for double standards there wouldn’t be any.

      • The interstate commerce clause is another thing that only works in one direction. This California Ag. Code is literally preventing someone from driving into another state, affecting interstate commerce. But because that would increase the liberty and power of the individual, it is not applied.

    • Michael,

      You’re new here, so I’ll explain something. We deal in principles, not pedantry. Not your pedantry – the pedantry and parsing of “the law” vs. what’s right. In plain, honest language an “inspection” is a “search.” If someone can compel you to submit to an examination of your person or property, you have been searched. Calling it an “inspection” changes no material fact. Just as calling theft “taxes”doesn’t change the nature of the thing, either.

      You describe objecting to searches as “stupidity.” If you actually believe that, you’re part of the problem.

    • Michael,

      Your definition of “stupidity” jibes with that of Stalin and his chief prosecutor, Vyshinsky. To them, it was evidence of “stupidity” to deviate from orthodoxy; to not “obey the law” – as defined by themselves.

      Libertarians think it’s stupid to respect a law just because it’s the law – and vile to punish people just for violating a law.

      Libertarians think that tangible harm to an actual (human) victim must be proved before any person can rightfully be deprived of property or liberty.

    • It’s peculiar but telling how the article/website author ignores this comment yet replies to the other comments that date after the one you’ve gave here; almost as if they’re choosing not to acknowledge the existence of the video in question alongside the comment which you had made.

      And look at that, a very easy thing to fact check here; neither are synonymous with each other as you had stated:
      https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/inspection
      https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/search

      This article is factually incorrect, I completely agree, they have the right to the freedom of speech but seem to forget that criticism is part of that freedom.

      • Justin,

        The article is several years old. The comment the other day was the first in years. No attempt has been made to ignore anything or anyone.

        You claim an inspection is not a search. Which is the difference between a sea and an ocean; i.e., there is no material difference. An AGW demands to “inspect” the contents of your vehicle. Another AGW says he intends to “search” your vehicle. So – while you are quoting Webster’s – do you consider that the “inspection” isn’t a “search”? In both instances, you are expected to submit to an AGW’s demand to examine the contents of your vehicle. A search, in other words. Calling it an “inspection” – and pretending that makes it different – is the same as calling robbery/theft “taxes.”

        We don’t lick badges around here. Nor parse legalisms.

        • You’re comparing apples to oranges here. The connotations are entirely different here; they weren’t rummaging around, taking items from the individual for criminal investigation, just a simple look around to make sure no invasive species got inside the vehicle.

          This wasn’t an issue around constitutional rights, this was a necessary precaution to help ensure the individual’s vehicle was free of any insects or arachnids in the invasive species list before allowing them to enter inside the state.

          If they where to allow them to enter without making sure the said invasive species didn’t find a way inside the vehicle, and they where any inside, there’s an extremely high chance it will find it’s way onto farmland, have offspring and causing farmers to lose profits from their hardwork due to it killing the land and animals who’e feed comes from the crops as well.

          Causing residents and farm animals to suffer an incoming famine and do you really want people to suffer because you want others to utterly refuse a necessity such as this? Do you not believe that certain necessary evils are needed or do you just wish to keep yourself arrogant to the point it could potentially harm large groups of people?

          • Hi Justin,

            No, I’m not. You are making a pedantic-legalistic distinction. And AGW “inspects” your car. An AGW searches it. Pray explain the meaningful difference?

            You assert the usual badge-licking catch-all justification: It’s necessary to treat everyone as a presumptive criminal and to abrogate everyone’s natural and constitutional right to not be subject to “inspection” absent specific probable cause to believe a crime has been committed… because saaaaaaaaaafety. Because “something bad” might otherwise happen.

            It is precisely the same logic that has given us probable cause-free “drunk driver” checkpoints and TSA gropes, too.

            Do you think those are “justified” as well?

            • It’s less of a might and more of something that had happened in the past, this sort of agricultural check up is the answer as to not cause a situation to happen once again; they don’t just do out of the thin air, there was past incidents and from studying about the cause they concluded that doing a check up would be the best method to prevent further cases. If it’s happened before it’ll
              most definitely happen again.

              Again, you’re presenting false dichotomies. This ain’t related to anything around the criminal force, it’s not like a drunk driving check up neither are they treating everyone as a criminal.

              It’s a matter of environmental precaution, they inspect based on the presumption that people unconsciously leave items in the car insects and arachnids oftentimes do find their way inside houses, cars and other such items.

              You’re presuming I even have any opinions about the other unrelated things.

              I’ve already explained the connotative difference between an inspection and a search in my previous reply, perhaps I wasn’t more clear, Merriam Webster is my citation for both definitions:

              “inspection noun
              in·​spec·​tion
              Legal Definition of inspection
              : a careful and critical examination: as
              a: a buyer’s examination of goods prior to payment or acceptance especially in accordance with section 2-513 of the Uniform Commercial Code
              b: an examination of articles of commerce to determine their fitness for transportation or sale
              c: an investigation of an applicant for insurance
              d: an examination or survey of a community, of premises, of a facility, or of a vehicle by an authorized person (as to determine compliance with regulations or susceptibility to fire or other hazards)
              specifically : ADMINISTRATIVE SEARCH at search
              e: examination of documents, things, or property for purposes of making discovery for trial”

              And now the legal definition of search:

              “search noun
              Legal Definition of search (Entry 1 of 2)
              1: an exploratory investigation (as of an area or person) by a government agent that intrudes on an individual’s reasonable expectation of privacy and is conducted usually for the purpose of finding evidence of unlawful activity or guilt or to locate a person
              warrantless searches are invalid unless they fall within narrowly drawn exceptions
              — State v. Mahone, 701 P.2d 171 (1985)
              — see also EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES, PLAIN VIEW sense 2, PROBABLE CAUSE at CAUSE sense 2, REASONABLE SUSPICION, SEARCH WARRANT at WARRANT
              — compare SEIZURE
              NOTE: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits unreasonable searches and requires that a warrant may issue only upon probable cause and that the warrant must particularly describe the place to be searched. Some searches, such as a search incident to an arrest, have been held to be valid without a warrant.

              — administrative search
              : an inspection or search carried out under a regulatory or statutory scheme especially in public or commercial premises and usually to enforce compliance with regulations or laws pertaining to health, safety, or security
              one of the fundamental principles of administrative searches is that the government may not use an administrative inspection scheme as a pretext to search for evidence of criminal violations
              — People v. Madison, 520 N.E.2d 374 (1988)
              — called also administrative inspection, inspection, regulatory search

              — see also PROBABLE CAUSE at CAUSE sense 2
              NOTE: The U.S. Supreme Court held in Camara v. Municipal Court, 387 U.S. 523 (1967), that a reasonable administrative search may be conducted upon a showing of probable cause which is less stringent than that required for a search incident to a criminal investigation. The Court stated that the reasonableness of the search can only be determined by “balancing the need to search against the invasion which the search entails.” Cases following Camara have stated that the probable cause requirement is fulfilled by showing that the search meets reasonable administrative standards established in a nonarbitrary regulatory scheme.

              — border search
              : a search made of a person upon crossing into the U.S. at a border or its equivalent (as the airport at which the person arrives in the U.S.)
              NOTE: Probable cause is not required for a border search.

              — consent search
              : a warrantless search conducted upon the voluntarily given consent of a person having authority over the place or things to be searched
              — inventory search
              : a warrantless search (as of an impounded automobile) conducted for the purpose of placing personal property in safekeeping to prevent loss of the property and claims against police for such loss
              — protective search
              : a search (as a frisk) conducted by a law enforcement officer for the purpose of ensuring against threats to safety (as from a concealed weapon) or sometimes to prevent the destruction of evidence
              — regulatory search
              : administrative search in this entry
              — shakedown search \ ˈshāk-​ˌdau̇n-​ \
              : a search for illicit or contraband material (as weapons or drugs) in prisoners’ cells that is usually random and warrantless
              NOTE: In Hudson v. Palmer, 468 U.S. 517 (1984), the U.S. Supreme Court held that Fourth Amendment protections do not extend to searches of prisoners’ cells.

              — strip search
              : a search for something concealed on a person conducted after removal of the person’s clothing
              2: an act of boarding and inspecting a ship on the high seas in exercise of the right to do so under international law (as in time of war)
              3: an examination of a public record or registry
              — see also TITLE SEARCH
              search transitive verb
              Legal Definition of search (Entry 2 of 2)
              : to conduct a search of
              search the premises
              search a person
              search a title
              intransitive verb

              : to conduct a search
              search for drugs in a school locker”

              • Hi Justin,

                More pedantic legalisms. You can parse “inspection” vs. “search” all you like. It’s a difference without a distinction. Like “taxes” vs. robbery. In effect, it is the same thing. As Bod Doooooole used to say: You know it. I know it. The American people know it.

                You then (again) provide the usual authoritarian collectivist justification for what you advocate:

                “…they don’t just do out of the thin air, there was past incidents and from studying about the cause they concluded that doing a check up would be the best method to prevent further cases. If it’s happened before it’ll most definitely happen again.”

                “…It’s less of a might and more of something that had happened in the past.”

                Gotta stop those dangerous drunks! The terrorists! You might be transporting an invasive plant species! And, indeed, there are dangerous drunks – and (probably) terrorists, too. But I don’t give a flip – because I reject the doctrine you espouse – which is that because “someone” might be . . . insert offense here . . . everyone must be presumptively treated as an offender until proved otherwise.

                It’s endless – precisely because there’s no limit. Just submit. For the greater good. Feel better about it by calling it by a different name. Pay what are styled your “taxes.” It’s just a “check.” Merely an “inspection.” Nothing objectionable.

                Your position is also pathetically naive in that you seem to think that armed government workers are Vigilant Guardians rather than . . . armed government workers. Their job is not to “keep you safe.” It is to bust you – for anything they can. To take your money – along with your right to be let alone.

  6. The constitution was for restraining the federal government, not government in general:

    Regardless if one thinks that it is a good measure to have the Federal government policing the States for any signs of them infringing on the states citizens’ inalienable rights (federalism anyone?), the fact remains that the Bill of Rights was drafted to further clarify limitations on the Federal government, not the States.
    http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/03/30/the-bill-of-rights-applies-to-the-federal-government/

    Doesn’t make it right, but keep that in mind next time you get “inspected.”

    • While it’s true that the Bill of Rights and the Constitution represented a restraint solely upon Federal government, somewhere around the time of the 14th Amendment and right after the War Between the States the Constitution and all of its amendments began to be applied to restrain the individual state governments as well. This was yet another major blow to the doctrine of States Rights/States Sovereignty.

      For example, at the time of the ratification of the Constitution and, later, the Bill of Rights, several states had longstanding and well established state churches supported by public taxation. The ratification of the First Amendment was not seen in any way to be in conflict with each State’s sovereign right to do whatever its government passed within its borders. The only restrictions were that, in order to be part of the Union, each state had to have a republican form of government (Article 4, Section 1). State-sponsored churches died out on their own fairly rapidly, I’m guessing mostly in response to the widespread sentiment of freedom of religion as expressed in the First Amendment, not because of application of that amendment.

      Given that the vast majority of Americans, including most “Constitutional lawyers,” don’t understand this point, and the fact that many later amendments were specifically directed to restrain State governments, not Federal government, which has muddied the waters considerably, there has been a long chain of judicial precedents established now that effectively erased the separation of Federal and State restrictions of the Constitution and its amendments.

      Thus we see, time and time again, many of the Bill of Rights being used to enforce solely Federal restrictions upon State governments, such as gun control and “separation of church and state” issues. Both conservatives and liberals wield this sword to great effect without the average citizen having any clue how misapplied it is.

      Your point is an excellent one. To properly defend against this sort of illegal search and seizure and arrest, the victims should first appeal to the California Constitution, which likely has a “Bill of Rights” incorporated into its body, as most US State Constitutions do, that has a section very similar to the US Constitution’s Fourth Amendment. That would be the proper starting point of defense, using the US Bill of Rights as a fallback plan but not the preferred option.

      If we wish to preserve and strengthen States Rights in the face of Federal overreach and usurpation, utilizing the primacy of each State’s own constitution would be a good place to start. At the same time, recognizing that the rules of the game have been changed mid-game, and that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is effectively a dead letter, we might have to get a little dirty to fight for freedom.

      It’s an interesting challenge to stand on principle while, on some level, having to give lip service to the realities of this lawless modern world. Purity of principle will invariably mean greater hardship as long as the statists are in control. After all, we drive on public roads, including interstates, which are unconstitutional in and of themselves.

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